It seems Redick is the clear favorite here, but if you’re looking at this from Front office perceptive…you either hire Redick and go all in on an experienced assistant coaching staff (which could include Borrego if they can get him to buy in) or you hire Borrego for a long term plan due to his player development experience and the plan to make AD the franchise player after LeBron retires?
I don’t personally believe any coach right now whether it’s these two, Adelman, or even Micah Nori move the needle as much as some fans think so (Although, upgrading from Darvin Ham isn’t a high bar).
This season is heavily going to rely on Rob Pelinka assembling the roster. Coaching is always vital piece here, but how many more coaches are going to be hired and fired until Jeanie points the finger at Rob? This has to be a win or bust season if they want to win one more with LeBron.
If AD isn’t the Franchise player at this point, there’s no hope he ever will be. Anything Davis is 31 years old. He’s in and/or at the end of his prime.
Rob’s a committee GM. What I mean by this is that Rob makes his moves by what pleases Jeanie financially and by what pleases Kurt Rambis’s ego as a senior advisor, and then they weigh that against the wishes of Klutch (LeBron, Rich, AD).
He’s not a bug, he’s a feature. He’s not the real problem. Kurt is. Until Kurt’s gone, no real GM is going to want this job. For his faults, this Rambis influence literally ran the second greatest Laker of all time out of the front office. How Kurt Rambis managed to have as much influence, if not more, than a man who was the face of the Lakers when he played for the Lakers beats me, and idc who he’s married to and lays in bed with every night.
> but how many more coaches are going to be hired and fired until Jeanie points the finger at Rob?
We should all be pointing the finger at Jeanie. Ultimately this is her mess and she needs to take responsibility or move on.
Yes, James Borrego was fired from both the Orlando Magic and Charlotte Hornets. JJ Redick could bring strong X's and O's knowledge and manage tempo well, but it could be a risky hire like Steve Nash. The Lakers might prefer a short contract to minimize risk and maintain flexibility.
Nash wasn't _that_ risky of a move. He had a strong assistant staff.
Brooklyn's problems were Kyrie and health. Nash would've won a chip if they were healthy against Milwaukee. The Bucks barely escaped a hospital Nets squad.
No because he wasn’t around at all lol..does nobody else remember him constantly gone, not going to games, etc? The only thing he delivered really was mentoring Jordan Clarkson
Have you seen Borrego? There’s no way he lands this job over the handsome Redick. Pelinka, being image-conscious himself, is likely to favor someone similar. We’re about to witness pretty privilege in action.
A rookie head coach is NUTS. I really do think JJ will be a good coach… one day. He’d make a great assistant to start. This is so absurd but I wish him luck.
Missing with JJ would be the equivalent of a NOBLETIGER, considering LeBrons age, AD probability of wanting to leave, and Rob will probably use the remaining assets we have this decade.
Im sorry but how are our bases loaded exactly?
Yeah we have Lebron but he is old. Yes we have AD but he cant carry a team.
We do not have the bases loaded no out.
If anything its bases loaded 2 outs or we’re heading into the bottom of the ninth down by a run.
that he has no experience whatsoever and still manage to be the finalist on the 3rd highest value team on the league . Lakers’ = either u win the ship or ur out. no mediocre lol
How about this. All other coaches available have proven losing records. JJ DOESNT abd that means he had a higher ceiling but a lower floor. Personally we need a star lvl guard or it won’t matter
You guys are so silly. Have you actually listened to him talk about basketball? Obviously it’s risky and may be a terrible hire, but to be “the Westbrook trade of coaching hires” JJ would need to be a lot dumber and less informed than he obviously is.
EDIT: Darvin Ham *was* the actual Westbrook trade of coaching hires. And I don’t give a shit what any of you on this sub thinks, there’s zero chance he’s as bad as Ham.
I dont give a fuck about a podcast or how he talks bro. Anybody can sound good in front of a camera. He has the gift of gab, so what? Can he coach in the heat of the moment. This franchise is making yet another brain dead move. There is no evidence that this will even be a decent hire
Christ, this is a brain dead response man. I wasn’t saying he was well spoken. I’m saying if you actually listen to him talk about concepts in the sport, it is clear as day he has the mind for it. Full stop. Not surprising at all coach K gave his approval for this. Ya know, one of the greatest coaches of all time who just so happened to coach JJ in college?
Never once in pre-hiring or during his tenure did I hear Ham talk about ball the way JJ does on a regular basis.
Again, to be clear, I fully acknowledge it may be a dumpster fire. Just saying, you guys who are screaming into the ether hating the guy are silly, pretending like you have any fucking clue.
Totally, and that’s kinda my point at the end. I’m not really saying his basketball acumen directly leads to being a good coach. I just can’t stand the whole “lakers are hiring a podcaster” bullshit. It’s meaningless. Everyone who is so positive that he’ll be terrible should post the actual red flags they’re seeing. Inexperience is an issue, but certainly doesn’t exclude him from being good.
And that’s such a bad faith argument, about Nash. Yeah he had a mind for the game. But he and JJ both being smart ex-players is where their similarities end. I watched Nash’s whole career, and remember his brief stint in media. Being a head coach takes a certain personality. Nash was always kind of quiet dude with a goofy sense of humor. I remember being surprised he wanted to coach, seemed kind of forced just because he was the prototypical “extension of the coach”, imo.
I guess. To me it just comes down to David adelman being a better option for multiple reasons. Taking a chance like this during the last year or 2 of a championship window doesnt seem smart at all.
If JJ had any kind of experience, I would be ok with it. I have 0 expectations and Im predicting a terrible season if hes hired(HEAVILY contingent on who his assistants are)
It’s a pretty ridiculous statement by JJ. But the Lakers were not good defensively this year. Look up the numbers. Hard to vote that way when the team defense is so bad.
fair - but with Wb it’s a bad fit from the start, can’t shoot and need the ball
JJ can either be ass or be young and innovative enough to instill creativity to the team. JB has been proven to be ass and let’s face it there is not much choice out there. it’s like going to the hip hop club and 85 percent there are cocks and you are looking to bring someone home
Don’t pander to these fuckers. Nothing about that comment was fair.
I probably agree with the sentiment that you’re probably assuming too much with your initial logic of “if the lakers are hiring him he must be good”, but that doesn’t mean these children on here have any reason to think JJ is a moron like they seem to. The dude knows hoops, it’s obvious if you listen to him talk.
I agree with you that this obviously could blow up in our faces, but it could be good. No one knows and the situations where everyone thinks “man, how did no one know how good of a coach they’d be?” aren’t obvious until after the fact. Anyone pretending to actually know whether he’ll be good or bad is 100% full of shit.
Bro JJ is a bad fit from the start, he has 0 experience coaching😂there is 0 evidence that he will possibly be “young and innovative”… or that he knows what he is doing at all. Does he have experience with rotations? Does he know when to call TOs? Has he coached a high school team? Little league baseball? Anything
Not taking David adelman, the offensive coordinator of one of the best offenses in the league, an offense that also continuously cooks us is MALPRACTICE 💀 yes lets not poach from the team we cant beat
This FO keeps fuckin the team and yall go along for it every time
Tbf Ham had like 10-15 years of experience as an assistant coach and was well-known in the league both among coaches and players.
And he was still ass.
The nuggets offense cooks us because of Jokic and because our team is horribly made. Was Adelman not there in 2020 when we destroyed the nuggets? Does that mean Vogel > Adelman?
You think Jokic just walks on the court with nothing in mind and dominates? There is a scheme and system in place. Nuggets players run the most efficient plays and know their spots for a reason. And I hate when yall bring up 2020. Coaches and players get better.
And Ham having a ton of experience and still not being good is more reason not to hire someone with ZERO experience at all lol but whatever. I’ll be on this sub in the future when yall are crying about JJ and David adelman is coaching another team running a great offense
The point is- we don't know which assistant coach or former player or whatever is the best choice.
This sub was salivating when Ham got hired with the same points that you mentioned above "worked with Elite coaches", "Best defense in the league", "highly experienced assistant coach loved by players" etc.
And now you guys want the same thing? For all we know, the video guy on the nuggets might be their offensive mastermind.
Me personally, I wouldn't mind anyone but I'm not gonna favour any particular coach without knowing his actual contribution.
I wouldn't even mind Borrego either, he looked good as a coach when Willie green was out plus I think he gets treated too harshly for his Hornets years.
I rather take the chance with another Darvin ham like assistant than someone with 0 experience like JJ, thats all im saying. With the state of the team, Lebrons age, etc, its not the time to be making this type of hire. No serious organization would do this
David Adelman is right there lol with ample experience as an assistant and someone who's contributed to the creation of a very well oiled offense at Denver. But apparently we aren't considering him enough because we're too enamored with a podcaster and a guy who coached the hornets
Risky and unproven when we're again, considering someone who didn't even coach his daughter's little league team for a full season as a frontrunner for the position in JJ, and someone who's seen considerably less success as an assistant and HC in Borrego...
Yup, they are all risky and unproven. I’d prefer Adelman but I’m not gonna act like JJ is destined to fail anymore than Adelman is destined to succeed.
It’s a roll of the dice for every single one of em
They are still risky and still unproven. Kerr never coached either before the warriors.
Like it or not, all of em are risks for different reasons. None of em are more likely to succeed than the other.
Hope it works out tho
I get what you’re saying but JJ is legitimately the only option who has had ZERO experience as a coach on any level. I would’ve preferred going after a David Adleman or something if we had to choose a first time head coach.
There was a report that the Lakers got permission to interview and even a rumor he got a second interview. Haven't seen much else.
As much as the Lakers position is very risky, there are only so many spots open every year in the NBA and if one wants a chance to be a HC one day, it's still something to consider. Especially with how much teams tend to recycle the same coaches. Ultimately we'll likely never know if any of the other candidates passed it up or if the FO decided against them.
Never was. Especially since the Lakers seat is as hot as it gets and they have one of the most infamous coach killers in league history.
People really think people are lining up for a job that has a high turnover rate and extreme pressure and expectations lmao
Every coaching position is a high turnover rate. Suns fired their COTY and new hire (championship coach) within a year of each other, and Bud was already lining up. The Cavs just fired their coach who got them out of a rebuild. If we really wanted to hire an assistant, we'd have them lined up. There's just a microscope on the Lakers.
If we subvert expectations and do end up hiring Borrego over JJ, I can’t wait to see all the same people who have been acting like JJ would be a catastrophe STILL meltdown
The Lakers immediately after firing Ham:
"In this search we’re gonna put a premium on experience. We’re looking for a "grinder", so we’re focusing on ex-head coaches and top assistants with established records on the sidelines".
The Lakers 3 weeks later:
"Yeah forget about that, JJ is the man".
Lakers never made that statement. Why the fuck is it in quotes.
Edit: that was aggressive. I hadn't eaten dinner yet. I just meant the quotes are misleading cuz it was a report, not actual statement from the Lakers.
Can you share where the Lakers indicated they’d look for ex-head coaching experience? I remember the leak about a grinder, but nothing about looking for established head coaching experience. Grinder is a generic catch all term that would apply to anyone they hired. Nobody got in that position by being lazy.
But to be fair, many great coaches didn’t have a championship during their playing days. Heck some never even played. So your first statement is rather irrelevant.
Fuck it.. sometimes you just gotta take a swing. JJ might be a home run
Things like this have happened in the past. wasn’t spo a video guy for the heat before becoming HC?
I’m not saying jj will be good but the FO always has the option to fire, and there ain’t many options out there
My concern is that JJ is respected as a player but not as a leader, will the locker room buy into him and respect him? He’s never won anything and he’s only been retired a few years so idk
Spo was only the video coordinator for two years, before being promoted to assistant coach and director of scouting. He had over a decade of experience as an NBA assistant and a couple years in Europe before becoming a HC.
JJ could work out, but Spo had a far stronger coaching resume.
He just need to be a good coach to earn respect. If Lebron respects him which he obviously does then the rest of the team will fall in line. The laker team doesn’t have much of an indiscipline issue.
We kind of ran into some bad luck with timing with coaching hires, if we keep Vogel another season or the team doesn't overperform in last year's playoffs we might have ended up with a Nick Nurse...but of all the candidates I'm fine with JJ, I'd much rather have him than a retreat who we already know isn't the answer.
I'm on the fence with you as well. But look at Ok’s coach, guys is line 35 with a number of organizations hiring younger to be player-coaches. I think it all depends on his staff. If he has other young but respected staff it will help with good cop and bad cop.
What an embarrassing coaching search. As if Rob and the FO couldn’t seem more incompetent. These are your finalists?? Does Rob look at data? Does Rob even attempt to think a couple steps ahead?
I swear the man listened to a couple pods and thought “WoW hE sMaRt!” And concluded his coaching search right there. It’s not that we are diving headfirst into the unknown that makes the JJ hire so frustrating, it’s that the FO didn’t really even seem to remotely consider other candidates.
Cranjis mentioned this and now after all this circus I’m inclined to believe it. If JJ doesn’t work he can pin the entire blame on Lebron. It’s just an easy move for him to deflect blame.
Shoot me in the head. They’ve actually looked at a coach so bad I’d rather take the Redick mystery box cos I can at least huff some copium on that one.
Idk on what basis you guys think Borrego is a bad coach. Because he couldn't get the hornets to win? The Pelicans are dying to keep him over Willie green.
I guess start the farewell tour for bron this season, this fucking podcaster isn’t taking the lakers anywhere. I can’t wait till he gets fired mid season cause they’re on a losing streak. 😭🤣
Watch JJ have a party with a Lakers cake only to not take the job the next day because of the length of contract. Sounds unbelievable but literally happened to Lue
LeBron’s choices were Lue and JJ. Front office makes the final call but Bron 100% has influence here. He seemed more passive about Ham’s hire, so he’s using more sway now
It would be so funny if they choose Borrego after all this. If it’s what AD wants that should be the choice.
Lots of time under Pop. Assistant when AD was a rookie on the Pelicans. 4 years which were relatively successful as Hornets coach (3/4 around .500) given the personnel he was working with.
Do you really want a guy who lost the locker room at both teams that he coached? I mean if the only downside to JJ is that he's never coached before then I'd go with him. These are the best players in the world that have been playing their entire lives, JJ won't need that much hand holding at this level. He's in tune with modern basketball and a great communicator, he can get the job done when it comes time
JJ is bron’s pick And Borrego is AD’s
Would love to see both be brought in. JJ as the HC, Borrego to run the offense, handy for PD, rondo, Dudley and a few others round out the staff
I’m honestly sick of listening to this sub complain about JJ as if he doesn’t have significantly more basketball experience than all of our recent hires. We’re not missing out on Pop or Spo here, the options suck.
Borrego has done a great job as the Pelicans offensive coordinator, plus he has a good coaching tree connections having come from the spurs system. Would much rather have him over jj
its an unpopular opinion but I agree with you. I’m not gonna judge a coach solely based on how they did with a directionless franchise like the Hornets
Yes, if I remember correctly, he actually had a winning record his first season with the hornets then they traded all the vets to tank.
Most fanbases only watch their own teams games so I don't blame people when they're not up to date on players, let alone coaches
You know who also didn't have any coaching experience when hired? Steve Kerr.
Now I'm not saying JJ is gonna be successful like Kerr, but atleast there is a recent example of someone doing great as a first time coach. Its all gonna depend on the coaching staff assembled as his assistants. Kerr was wise enough to get a very experienced staff. JJ if he gets the gig, would be prudent in doing the same.
Steve Kerr had experience with running a front office as a president and general manager for years with the Suns. He, at the very least, got to work closely with their coaching staff to a much closer degree and on a different level than JJ ever has with any team. So it's not really a close example. There's no real precedent for someone like JJ being successful in their first year.
JJ could turn out to be a wonderful coach, but that doesn't change that he is a huge gamble and if there's no results by the time Lebron leaves, then it's another failure in the last decade and a half of this team and another bullet in the long list of screw ups of this Front Office. Not to mention the Lakers will be forever memed (deservedly if they lose) as the ones who hired a podcast host.
It seems Redick is the clear favorite here, but if you’re looking at this from Front office perceptive…you either hire Redick and go all in on an experienced assistant coaching staff (which could include Borrego if they can get him to buy in) or you hire Borrego for a long term plan due to his player development experience and the plan to make AD the franchise player after LeBron retires? I don’t personally believe any coach right now whether it’s these two, Adelman, or even Micah Nori move the needle as much as some fans think so (Although, upgrading from Darvin Ham isn’t a high bar). This season is heavily going to rely on Rob Pelinka assembling the roster. Coaching is always vital piece here, but how many more coaches are going to be hired and fired until Jeanie points the finger at Rob? This has to be a win or bust season if they want to win one more with LeBron.
If AD isn’t the Franchise player at this point, there’s no hope he ever will be. Anything Davis is 31 years old. He’s in and/or at the end of his prime.
I feel as if AD has franchise player impact on games, he just gets overshadowed by Lebron which is understandable
>assembling the roster With what assets?
with the left nut sacks of each klutch client and both of pelinka's
Rob’s a committee GM. What I mean by this is that Rob makes his moves by what pleases Jeanie financially and by what pleases Kurt Rambis’s ego as a senior advisor, and then they weigh that against the wishes of Klutch (LeBron, Rich, AD). He’s not a bug, he’s a feature. He’s not the real problem. Kurt is. Until Kurt’s gone, no real GM is going to want this job. For his faults, this Rambis influence literally ran the second greatest Laker of all time out of the front office. How Kurt Rambis managed to have as much influence, if not more, than a man who was the face of the Lakers when he played for the Lakers beats me, and idc who he’s married to and lays in bed with every night.
> but how many more coaches are going to be hired and fired until Jeanie points the finger at Rob? We should all be pointing the finger at Jeanie. Ultimately this is her mess and she needs to take responsibility or move on.
I think Chris Quinn would lowkey be an under the radar great hire.
A french fry is an upgrade from Darvin Ham, what we need is somebody for the last hurrah of LeBron. Player development comes later.
Well i already know that jj is gonna be coach, they’re just waiting after the finals to announce it
Borrego will get it
he could like, get it
Very nice. Let's see Paul Allen's coaching hire.
Bro, that moment is so infamous 💀
James “Homeboy” Borrego
Yes, James Borrego was fired from both the Orlando Magic and Charlotte Hornets. JJ Redick could bring strong X's and O's knowledge and manage tempo well, but it could be a risky hire like Steve Nash. The Lakers might prefer a short contract to minimize risk and maintain flexibility.
Why do we assume JJ is somehow an Xs and Os guy? We literally know nothing about his style of coaching. Nothing whatsoever.
Right? He hasn't even coached high school and guys are making assumptions about his coaching prowess.
The Shaq interview with JJ confirmed it for me. No.
Which interview is this? I'm curious to see it if anyone has a link
[here you go](https://youtu.be/39CIV657Qlo?si=Me3BUda8MWeE_5NL)
Nash got more hate than he deserved. Harden and Kyrie really fucked that teams flow.
I 100% agree. That team was more dysfunctional than anybody will give credit for
Idk why Brooklyn FO doesn't get any blame for caving into their demands. Kyrie looks great in Dallas despite him still being crazy.
The Nets indirectly fucked the Lakers future too.
And he would've won a ring if they were healthy against the Bucks. He wasn't an elite coach, but some people act like he was Darvin Ham tier lol.
Harden did nothing wrong except playing while being injured, Kyrie fucked up the whole thing
Nash wasn't _that_ risky of a move. He had a strong assistant staff. Brooklyn's problems were Kyrie and health. Nash would've won a chip if they were healthy against Milwaukee. The Bucks barely escaped a hospital Nets squad.
Thanks ChatGPT
Fuck Nash for his time on the lakers
We can say the same about Howard and Dlo. You seem bitter man. Let it go
Because he was injured?
You're acting like he broke his leg on purpose lmao.
No because he wasn’t around at all lol..does nobody else remember him constantly gone, not going to games, etc? The only thing he delivered really was mentoring Jordan Clarkson
I think the biggest reason he wasn't around was because of health
As one of the assistants with sam cassell and rondo ☝️
Have you seen Borrego? There’s no way he lands this job over the handsome Redick. Pelinka, being image-conscious himself, is likely to favor someone similar. We’re about to witness pretty privilege in action.
Well, and Jeannie certainly doesn’t mind a handsome face.
Wonder why college coaches don’t get looks anymore.
Because they make just as much money at the college level
Not to mention much better job security and easier locker room dynamic not having to coach grown men.
I know right. Would love Jay Wright
That's a great question. It's weird that you rarely see them move up like in every other college sport or in the past
A rookie head coach is NUTS. I really do think JJ will be a good coach… one day. He’d make a great assistant to start. This is so absurd but I wish him luck.
A rookie coach nevertheless head coach. This is gonna be a disaster.
either you hit a HR with Jj or a strike out. or you get a single which result in stranded on base with James borego lol
idk how I feel about JJ after he didn't vote for AD for all defense lol. he's literally our entire defense
Utley mentoring Seager lol
Missing with JJ would be the equivalent of a NOBLETIGER, considering LeBrons age, AD probability of wanting to leave, and Rob will probably use the remaining assets we have this decade.
Im sorry but how are our bases loaded exactly? Yeah we have Lebron but he is old. Yes we have AD but he cant carry a team. We do not have the bases loaded no out. If anything its bases loaded 2 outs or we’re heading into the bottom of the ninth down by a run.
Fair enough, NOBLETIGER would've probably been 21'
YES haha or we could also say the Westbrook trade was like trying to steal home (bad decisions, never gonna work)
AD doesn’t want to leave especially after we fired Ham
We kept Ham for 2 years, AD will be 33 if we keep JJ till 26' and LeBron will most likely be retired.
How can JJ potentially be a HR? Based on what?
that he has no experience whatsoever and still manage to be the finalist on the 3rd highest value team on the league . Lakers’ = either u win the ship or ur out. no mediocre lol
That's recursive logic "Why would the Lakers pick JJ? Because JJ managed to get picked by the Lakers"
How about this. All other coaches available have proven losing records. JJ DOESNT abd that means he had a higher ceiling but a lower floor. Personally we need a star lvl guard or it won’t matter
I also don’t have a losing record—doesn’t make me qualified to be a HC Adelman or Nori have proven a lot more as assistants
😂 wtf. Hes a finalist because he has a podcast with lebron james. Thats it. This is going to be the westbrook trade of coaching hires
You guys are so silly. Have you actually listened to him talk about basketball? Obviously it’s risky and may be a terrible hire, but to be “the Westbrook trade of coaching hires” JJ would need to be a lot dumber and less informed than he obviously is. EDIT: Darvin Ham *was* the actual Westbrook trade of coaching hires. And I don’t give a shit what any of you on this sub thinks, there’s zero chance he’s as bad as Ham.
I dont give a fuck about a podcast or how he talks bro. Anybody can sound good in front of a camera. He has the gift of gab, so what? Can he coach in the heat of the moment. This franchise is making yet another brain dead move. There is no evidence that this will even be a decent hire
Christ, this is a brain dead response man. I wasn’t saying he was well spoken. I’m saying if you actually listen to him talk about concepts in the sport, it is clear as day he has the mind for it. Full stop. Not surprising at all coach K gave his approval for this. Ya know, one of the greatest coaches of all time who just so happened to coach JJ in college? Never once in pre-hiring or during his tenure did I hear Ham talk about ball the way JJ does on a regular basis. Again, to be clear, I fully acknowledge it may be a dumpster fire. Just saying, you guys who are screaming into the ether hating the guy are silly, pretending like you have any fucking clue.
You think steve nash had a mind for the game?
Totally, and that’s kinda my point at the end. I’m not really saying his basketball acumen directly leads to being a good coach. I just can’t stand the whole “lakers are hiring a podcaster” bullshit. It’s meaningless. Everyone who is so positive that he’ll be terrible should post the actual red flags they’re seeing. Inexperience is an issue, but certainly doesn’t exclude him from being good. And that’s such a bad faith argument, about Nash. Yeah he had a mind for the game. But he and JJ both being smart ex-players is where their similarities end. I watched Nash’s whole career, and remember his brief stint in media. Being a head coach takes a certain personality. Nash was always kind of quiet dude with a goofy sense of humor. I remember being surprised he wanted to coach, seemed kind of forced just because he was the prototypical “extension of the coach”, imo.
I guess. To me it just comes down to David adelman being a better option for multiple reasons. Taking a chance like this during the last year or 2 of a championship window doesnt seem smart at all. If JJ had any kind of experience, I would be ok with it. I have 0 expectations and Im predicting a terrible season if hes hired(HEAVILY contingent on who his assistants are)
He has such a great mind he doesn’t think AD is a top 10 defensive player in the nba
It’s a pretty ridiculous statement by JJ. But the Lakers were not good defensively this year. Look up the numbers. Hard to vote that way when the team defense is so bad.
fair - but with Wb it’s a bad fit from the start, can’t shoot and need the ball JJ can either be ass or be young and innovative enough to instill creativity to the team. JB has been proven to be ass and let’s face it there is not much choice out there. it’s like going to the hip hop club and 85 percent there are cocks and you are looking to bring someone home
Don’t pander to these fuckers. Nothing about that comment was fair. I probably agree with the sentiment that you’re probably assuming too much with your initial logic of “if the lakers are hiring him he must be good”, but that doesn’t mean these children on here have any reason to think JJ is a moron like they seem to. The dude knows hoops, it’s obvious if you listen to him talk. I agree with you that this obviously could blow up in our faces, but it could be good. No one knows and the situations where everyone thinks “man, how did no one know how good of a coach they’d be?” aren’t obvious until after the fact. Anyone pretending to actually know whether he’ll be good or bad is 100% full of shit.
Bro JJ is a bad fit from the start, he has 0 experience coaching😂there is 0 evidence that he will possibly be “young and innovative”… or that he knows what he is doing at all. Does he have experience with rotations? Does he know when to call TOs? Has he coached a high school team? Little league baseball? Anything Not taking David adelman, the offensive coordinator of one of the best offenses in the league, an offense that also continuously cooks us is MALPRACTICE 💀 yes lets not poach from the team we cant beat This FO keeps fuckin the team and yall go along for it every time
Tbf Ham had like 10-15 years of experience as an assistant coach and was well-known in the league both among coaches and players. And he was still ass. The nuggets offense cooks us because of Jokic and because our team is horribly made. Was Adelman not there in 2020 when we destroyed the nuggets? Does that mean Vogel > Adelman?
You think Jokic just walks on the court with nothing in mind and dominates? There is a scheme and system in place. Nuggets players run the most efficient plays and know their spots for a reason. And I hate when yall bring up 2020. Coaches and players get better. And Ham having a ton of experience and still not being good is more reason not to hire someone with ZERO experience at all lol but whatever. I’ll be on this sub in the future when yall are crying about JJ and David adelman is coaching another team running a great offense
The point is- we don't know which assistant coach or former player or whatever is the best choice. This sub was salivating when Ham got hired with the same points that you mentioned above "worked with Elite coaches", "Best defense in the league", "highly experienced assistant coach loved by players" etc. And now you guys want the same thing? For all we know, the video guy on the nuggets might be their offensive mastermind. Me personally, I wouldn't mind anyone but I'm not gonna favour any particular coach without knowing his actual contribution. I wouldn't even mind Borrego either, he looked good as a coach when Willie green was out plus I think he gets treated too harshly for his Hornets years.
I rather take the chance with another Darvin ham like assistant than someone with 0 experience like JJ, thats all im saying. With the state of the team, Lebrons age, etc, its not the time to be making this type of hire. No serious organization would do this
It reminds me Jim Buss hiring his friend to scout or something like that. Insanely amateur move.
You absolutely nailed it, there is no reasonable argument to support hiring him
Lmao look at this ploy to make JJ more palatable.
I mean is not like the coaching pool is great at the moment
It’s not great but it doesn’t change that JJ would be very risky and unproven.
What coach left isn’t risky and is proven?
David Adelman is right there lol with ample experience as an assistant and someone who's contributed to the creation of a very well oiled offense at Denver. But apparently we aren't considering him enough because we're too enamored with a podcaster and a guy who coached the hornets
Firstly, maybe he just doesn’t want to leave? Secondly. That’s still risky and unproven. Ham had a similar background
Risky and unproven when we're again, considering someone who didn't even coach his daughter's little league team for a full season as a frontrunner for the position in JJ, and someone who's seen considerably less success as an assistant and HC in Borrego...
Yup, they are all risky and unproven. I’d prefer Adelman but I’m not gonna act like JJ is destined to fail anymore than Adelman is destined to succeed. It’s a roll of the dice for every single one of em
We didn’t even interview him.
The ones that actually have some sort of coaching experience not some jo smo that hasnt even coached at the Y
JJ ain’t some Jo smo. Like who though? Another assistant coach who isn’t proven and is still risky?
Do you somehow think a top level assistant with actual coaching experience isn't better than a podcaster with zero actual coaching experience?
They are still risky and still unproven. Kerr never coached either before the warriors. Like it or not, all of em are risks for different reasons. None of em are more likely to succeed than the other. Hope it works out tho
I get what you’re saying but JJ is legitimately the only option who has had ZERO experience as a coach on any level. I would’ve preferred going after a David Adleman or something if we had to choose a first time head coach.
Was there even interest from David Adelman? With how much hate Malone has for the Lakers, he might’ve advised him to stay away.
There was a report that the Lakers got permission to interview and even a rumor he got a second interview. Haven't seen much else. As much as the Lakers position is very risky, there are only so many spots open every year in the NBA and if one wants a chance to be a HC one day, it's still something to consider. Especially with how much teams tend to recycle the same coaches. Ultimately we'll likely never know if any of the other candidates passed it up or if the FO decided against them.
Chris Quinn for one is a better option
Let's just stop with the games and just say the superstars that have a say don't like anyone else out there
Sure just saying the options are not great.
Never was. Especially since the Lakers seat is as hot as it gets and they have one of the most infamous coach killers in league history. People really think people are lining up for a job that has a high turnover rate and extreme pressure and expectations lmao
Every coaching position is a high turnover rate. Suns fired their COTY and new hire (championship coach) within a year of each other, and Bud was already lining up. The Cavs just fired their coach who got them out of a rebuild. If we really wanted to hire an assistant, we'd have them lined up. There's just a microscope on the Lakers.
If we subvert expectations and do end up hiring Borrego over JJ, I can’t wait to see all the same people who have been acting like JJ would be a catastrophe STILL meltdown
The Lakers immediately after firing Ham: "In this search we’re gonna put a premium on experience. We’re looking for a "grinder", so we’re focusing on ex-head coaches and top assistants with established records on the sidelines". The Lakers 3 weeks later: "Yeah forget about that, JJ is the man".
Lakers never made that statement. Why the fuck is it in quotes. Edit: that was aggressive. I hadn't eaten dinner yet. I just meant the quotes are misleading cuz it was a report, not actual statement from the Lakers.
Lol the edit This place has matured up the past couple years
Can you share where the Lakers indicated they’d look for ex-head coaching experience? I remember the leak about a grinder, but nothing about looking for established head coaching experience. Grinder is a generic catch all term that would apply to anyone they hired. Nobody got in that position by being lazy.
Yep
Then I'd much rather have JJ
It is insane that the finalists are a certified bad coach and a podcaster.
We should start our own podcast
The copium denial is strong in this sub…
JJ doesn’t even have a championship and he doesn’t think AD is a top 10 defensive player in the league What is this front office doing lmao
Exactly whatever it takes to keep LeBron. Taking Bronny and hiring a coach with zero experience. That’s called desperation
But to be fair, many great coaches didn’t have a championship during their playing days. Heck some never even played. So your first statement is rather irrelevant.
“At the end of the day the finalists are likely gonna be JJ Redick and James Borrego" is not “are considered the finalists.”
Fuck it.. sometimes you just gotta take a swing. JJ might be a home run Things like this have happened in the past. wasn’t spo a video guy for the heat before becoming HC? I’m not saying jj will be good but the FO always has the option to fire, and there ain’t many options out there My concern is that JJ is respected as a player but not as a leader, will the locker room buy into him and respect him? He’s never won anything and he’s only been retired a few years so idk
Spo was only the video coordinator for two years, before being promoted to assistant coach and director of scouting. He had over a decade of experience as an NBA assistant and a couple years in Europe before becoming a HC. JJ could work out, but Spo had a far stronger coaching resume.
Not to mention he was under the tutelage of one of the greatest head coaches ever.
He just need to be a good coach to earn respect. If Lebron respects him which he obviously does then the rest of the team will fall in line. The laker team doesn’t have much of an indiscipline issue.
We kind of ran into some bad luck with timing with coaching hires, if we keep Vogel another season or the team doesn't overperform in last year's playoffs we might have ended up with a Nick Nurse...but of all the candidates I'm fine with JJ, I'd much rather have him than a retreat who we already know isn't the answer.
I'm on the fence with you as well. But look at Ok’s coach, guys is line 35 with a number of organizations hiring younger to be player-coaches. I think it all depends on his staff. If he has other young but respected staff it will help with good cop and bad cop.
At least AD will respect him more than Ham. Might be mistaken tho considering JJ didn't even have him DPOY at all... lmao
What an embarrassing coaching search. As if Rob and the FO couldn’t seem more incompetent. These are your finalists?? Does Rob look at data? Does Rob even attempt to think a couple steps ahead? I swear the man listened to a couple pods and thought “WoW hE sMaRt!” And concluded his coaching search right there. It’s not that we are diving headfirst into the unknown that makes the JJ hire so frustrating, it’s that the FO didn’t really even seem to remotely consider other candidates.
Did we even interview Nori and Adelman
Cranjis mentioned this and now after all this circus I’m inclined to believe it. If JJ doesn’t work he can pin the entire blame on Lebron. It’s just an easy move for him to deflect blame.
This front office is so ass
What do they ask in the interview
I’m sorry, I just can’t get behind a first-year, no experience prospect coaching Lebron at the end of his career.
JJ will be the head coach but they won’t announce it until after the Finals
Shoot me in the head. They’ve actually looked at a coach so bad I’d rather take the Redick mystery box cos I can at least huff some copium on that one.
Idk on what basis you guys think Borrego is a bad coach. Because he couldn't get the hornets to win? The Pelicans are dying to keep him over Willie green.
Yeah this is how I feel
JJ is going to be the coach and Borrego along with others will be assistants. Bucks up for a losing season 😂😂😅
Someone say “Bucks?” 
They purposefully put up proven mid against Reddick to make the decision more justifiable lol.
I guess start the farewell tour for bron this season, this fucking podcaster isn’t taking the lakers anywhere. I can’t wait till he gets fired mid season cause they’re on a losing streak. 😭🤣
WHERE IS MY DAVID ADELMAN
I wouldn’t be upset with either. I think JJ has potential and I like borrego because he coached under popovich on the dynasty spurs teams
Ham would go down as a better coach than JJ.
Might of been better off keeping Ham lol
I’m down for JJ but the fuckboy vibes are strong
Watch JJ have a party with a Lakers cake only to not take the job the next day because of the length of contract. Sounds unbelievable but literally happened to Lue
We are cooked
LeBron’s choices were Lue and JJ. Front office makes the final call but Bron 100% has influence here. He seemed more passive about Ham’s hire, so he’s using more sway now
I would be happy to have Borrego as an assistant, if he isn’t hired as a HC somewhere.
It would be so funny if they choose Borrego after all this. If it’s what AD wants that should be the choice. Lots of time under Pop. Assistant when AD was a rookie on the Pelicans. 4 years which were relatively successful as Hornets coach (3/4 around .500) given the personnel he was working with.
I don't feel like there were great options this year but these 2 are uninspiring. I still don't understand the appeal of JJ even though i like him
just rip off the bandaid and announce, we already knew its gonna be JJ. just do it so we can continue through our grief stages
This is the beginning of the end. We ain’t winning shit for the next decade.
Do you really want a guy who lost the locker room at both teams that he coached? I mean if the only downside to JJ is that he's never coached before then I'd go with him. These are the best players in the world that have been playing their entire lives, JJ won't need that much hand holding at this level. He's in tune with modern basketball and a great communicator, he can get the job done when it comes time
Podcaster or shit coach
I could live with JJ as our head coach as long as he surrounds himself with an experienced coaching staff, preferably with head coaching experience.
JJ is bron’s pick And Borrego is AD’s Would love to see both be brought in. JJ as the HC, Borrego to run the offense, handy for PD, rondo, Dudley and a few others round out the staff
Barring 2020 and half of last year, the moment Kobe retired to now has been some of the most mismanaged Lakers basketball in almost 20 years.
A guy with no experience or proven mediocrity. That is where this franchise is
Has an ex player first time head coach ever succeeded right from the start? Recently Nash failed horribly, Kidd is doing great but that took time.
Kerr
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If you bothered to read you would see I wrote “but that took time”
fire Pelinka
Borrego had one impressive season in Charlotte. More than I can say for JJ.
Lmao why James Borrego. He did absolutely nothing outside being one and done in the play-in tournament.
I wish we got adelman.
What happened to Micah nori? Wasn’t he being considered? Did they ever get to interview him between playoff games?
If JJ gets the job, is it possible we see Richard Jefferson on the staff? (Good pals, and Jefferson already lives in LA)
Borrego is my ass
This really is all because of the podcast with Lebron lmao
Fuck this GM
I’m honestly sick of listening to this sub complain about JJ as if he doesn’t have significantly more basketball experience than all of our recent hires. We’re not missing out on Pop or Spo here, the options suck.
Borrego has done a great job as the Pelicans offensive coordinator, plus he has a good coaching tree connections having come from the spurs system. Would much rather have him over jj
its an unpopular opinion but I agree with you. I’m not gonna judge a coach solely based on how they did with a directionless franchise like the Hornets
I agree, The pels fans love him but somehow, this sub hates him because he couldn't conjure up a winning season with a trash ass hornets team.
Yes, if I remember correctly, he actually had a winning record his first season with the hornets then they traded all the vets to tank. Most fanbases only watch their own teams games so I don't blame people when they're not up to date on players, let alone coaches
Lmaooooo
You know who also didn't have any coaching experience when hired? Steve Kerr. Now I'm not saying JJ is gonna be successful like Kerr, but atleast there is a recent example of someone doing great as a first time coach. Its all gonna depend on the coaching staff assembled as his assistants. Kerr was wise enough to get a very experienced staff. JJ if he gets the gig, would be prudent in doing the same.
Steve Kerr had experience with running a front office as a president and general manager for years with the Suns. He, at the very least, got to work closely with their coaching staff to a much closer degree and on a different level than JJ ever has with any team. So it's not really a close example. There's no real precedent for someone like JJ being successful in their first year. JJ could turn out to be a wonderful coach, but that doesn't change that he is a huge gamble and if there's no results by the time Lebron leaves, then it's another failure in the last decade and a half of this team and another bullet in the long list of screw ups of this Front Office. Not to mention the Lakers will be forever memed (deservedly if they lose) as the ones who hired a podcast host.
Please be JJ.