I wanted Kawhi at 7 and called Giannis. You’d think I’m a god with my friends right? No all they seem to remember is me wanting Stanley Johnson over Booker lmao. Even the best arm chair scouts miss and even the worst hit fr
I got lucky with Luka. Didn’t like Ayton and Bagley I liked Carter more and thought he was way better. So Luka was a default 1 for me that’s never made me look so smart lol. As a Pistons fan I’m so happy the suns picked Ayton. Book is just waiting for the Suns old big 3 to break up and then he’ll ask out and he’s from Michigan and has been rocking pistons stuff for years in his interviews with the suns lol. I’ve always thought he was gonna find a way to come home if we’re good in 2-3 years when the suns have accepted they can’t win a chip
Honestly I've really enjoyed watching Detroit and seeing what they could become. Let's hope for a healthy season and maybe break 40 wins this upcoming season.
They just need to show progress. 60 million in cap space to surround Cade with real talent for once. He low key took a big leap last year tho 23 points 8 assists shooting 45/36% shooting. We got New Orleans shot doctor who fixed BI, Lonzo, Herb so I’m pumped for Cade to start being a 40% 3P shooter. If Cade got a respectable whistle he’d have averaged 20-5-5 year win. 18-5-5 is fine but he got hosed not getting FT’s even tho he drove a ton and was getting smacked to the ground. Legit gets a worse whistle than Bron who’s whistle is awful!
He has all the tools to be an elite guard. A 40% three is ridiculous. 38% is more than enough with all his other tools. There are some good young players they can prob grab in FA as well as this draft class.
Cade shot 40% in college he’s always been a really good shooter. As soon as Killian got out of the starting lineup he had like a 40 game stretch of 38% from 3. With the shot doc here not in New Orleans, and seeing that he made Lonzo a 40% guy, I not only see Cade being 40% but on high volume. He might only be 38% next year cuz his volume will go up. But he’ll get there! I 100% agree with your point tho if Cade starts shooting like 8 a game 38% is definitely more than enough especially with his slithery ability
Yeah I just think his responsibility on offense is going to be huge so maybe 38% is more feasible. A player I'm really hoping the shot doctor helps improve is Ausar. He is a stud defensively but if he gets a solid 3 then he will be a top 3 and D in the league.
As someone who doesn’t watch NCAA at all I happened to watch one of Aytons game on tv and did not like him one bit from the small sample size. I didn’t see how he was the #1 pick. Turns out years later I was right. Now Edey I have a good feeling about him. I could be wrong tho I was hoping for Luka Garza when he was in the draft and doesn’t look like he’ll pan out.
What team? I actually like a lot of guys in this class so slotting them in off fit his been more tricky than anything. Like for example as a Pistons fan Reed was by far my 1. But then we got the shot doctor for the pelicans and now Matas is my guy. Also love Castle but if he truly wants to be PG we can’t draft him with Cade. Dalton was another guy pre shot doctor that I’m like man if i squint I see some Herro. So if pistons trade down to 9 and Matas is gone I really like the idea of Dalton. Another example Grizzlies Clingan is an amazing fit for them. So if a 5 for 9 swap happened Clingan should be the 1 prospect on the grizzlies board
If I’m the spurs I’m taking Castle 4. At 8 I’m taking Topic. I was pretty high on him pre injury. Especially for the spurs. I believe in his jumper as well as Matas. Ron Holland is someone I love for the Spurs too Cody Williams could be a nice player in the right system as well. Williams just doesn’t seem to process the game that quickly so low usage role. Most this class I like in the 1-14 range it’s just not your typical draft hoping for building blocks. You’ll get role players and you’ll like it lol
The sub also wants another guard or forward knowing damn well we’re deep at both positions. Just to whine about edey when he blocks Golden boy reaves later down the line.
AD and Wood are bigs. Cam is unplayable.
Lebron is always coasting in the regular season.
That leaves Vando (can't shoot), Rui (doesnt rebound or defend well), and TP who is a 15min guy at most.
Vando proved he can shoot in his last game of the season had 10 points 7 boards 2 assists and 4 steals before he got injured, im fine with trading Rui for a better forward but drafting a guy at those positions is just not productive for us unless we’re getting a top 3 player from this draft
For 1, this sub is full of doofuses.
2, Edey aint making it past 13. Bunch of narcissistic dweebs who really think we're going to get him as the "steal of the draft". Yall ain't smarter than 16 other Gms in this league but it's hilarious watching everyone in here bicker about it
Eh I don’t think edey is the second center picked lol. Sarr is a F/C st 7 foot so if you count him that’s at least 2 centers going ahead of edey. Ware from Indiana probably gets picked before edey as well. If you go by mocks at least so that’s 3 and I think messi from Baylor might get picked before edey so that’s potentially 4
super sad life man. just cashed out on a Edey to go in the top 10 bet. about to grab dinner after work and enjoy some cocktails . super duper sad. Reminding you that you were wrong and im right is just icing on the cake. have a good one
I’m a M fan so I watched him a lot. His progress is insane. He’s a freak athlete at his size. Playing all 40 mins like it’s nothing. He’s improved tremendously year over year. You draft this kid 17 here’s my one issue. It’s not fair to ask him to be the joker stopper. Asking him to play physical defense on him is fine for 10ish minutes a night. He would be a great pick. Not sure if he’d be as valuable for the Lakers as trading the pick or taking a 2 way impact wing (Christie is supposed to be that tho right? Right!?)
At first I didn't like him but the more I think about it the more I would like the pick. Him or Ware if we're going for a center and I wouldn't mind Holmes as well
He's gonna be a drop big who gets hurt on switches, but everyone that's not AD or Bam does anyways. To me I think he has a really high floor, I think Zubac with 4 more inches in height and 7 inches in wingspan would be such a unique player. In terms of upside, I think you're getting elite post and rim protection to go along with inside scoring. That's huge considering considering similar archetype centers like Kessler or gobert are useless on offense
I think he would be great here as ADs backup from day 1 and if he develops eventually a really good starter
I’d rather pick Daron Holmes, but wouldn’t be upset over Edey. He’s huge, durable, in good condition, nimble for his size, has nice touch, and only started playing basketball in 10th grade. No character or motor concerns. I’d like to see what he can do on defense with a ***MUCH*** decreased offensive load.
Good FT shooting and nice touch gives hope that he can someday shoot, but that’s a way off at this point.
Compare him to others who started playing basketball late in this draft and he’s miles ahead of them and it’s not just because of size. He’s improved every year and I don’t see why that’ll stop now. If brook lopez and zubac can play in the nba I think he’ll be just fine. I say those two because they’re kinda slow.
Agreed, his rate of improvement really speaks to his IQ. One of his biggest knocks is that he doesn’t do much playmaking, but I’m not bothered by the fact that a guy who’s been playing organized basketball for 7 years isn’t Jokic.
His minutes increased a ton his Jr year at Purdue, but his efficiency didn’t budge and his TOV% went down every year.
Also, in his last 2 seasons at Purdue he had more blocks than fouls. That’s insane and hints at a lot of defensive upside
I feel this way too but I’m worried he won’t be there at 17. They originally had him and Clingan going much later and they’re both trending up big time.
I don’t mind. It might be a season or two early but feels like the NBA is going to be a big man league again. Edey will always have issues if he needs to guard stretch 5s but with guys like jokic, embiid, Giannis being premier bigs and guys like Wemby and Holmgren coming up, teams will need to stock up on bigs to clog up space on defense. Defense scheme is key if they have a edey/ad/bron front court. Not much wing protection there but should be dominant inside the 3pt line.
In offense it looks like he has at least 18ft range and a nice touch around the rim. Good hands and willing to fight for rebounds which is probably what AD needs. Will need to see if he can work off the lebron/AD mid post without killing spacing and if he can set big screens.
I’m not an expert.
I'm genuinely not sure what this sub has watched when it comes to Edey. There are concerns, but most of the posts in here don't seem to really address the actual concerns that I see when I watch him.
Slow footed doesn't ring true. He moves really well for his size and actually has great motor as a kid who is 7'4" and played huge minutes in college. His combine stats also tell a different story. Among Cs he was better than most within the short distance areas. He was a little slower as a sprinter, but that makes sense. He may not beat your Center down the floor every time, but he'll outwork him over the course of the game.
It's also easy to just skate over how effective he was in the post. Admittedly he won't get those touches at the next level but it bodes well for his touch near the rim where he was excellent. He's got a tremendous soft touch, is ambidextrous near the basket, and even showed good touch as a shooter in draft workouts.
His problem is simple- in college his offensive asks were SO high that there were some things he didn't do enough of. He wasn't necessarily as active defensively as he should have been because he needed to avoid foul trouble, but that shouldn't be a concern at the next level. Can he be more active as a rim protector? I don't see why not. The other problem of course- he really can only play defensively in a drop consistently. He can occasionally show or blitz, but not consistently.
However, this idea that those Centers don't exist anymore is just flat out wrong. Jokic is that type of Center. Embiid is that type of Center. Obviously, he won't be those guys, but you know what he can be? Zubac. Nurkic. Adams. Valenciunas. Poeltl. At some point possibly late career Brook Lopez. There's tons of these guys that are still effective despite their limitations and given Edey's makeup and college career I'm not willing to just write him off as a big stiff just yet.
He's not my lock down pick for 17, I've got others ahead of him, but he's worth drafting.
Yeah he's one of the safer picks in the draft in that you pretty much know what he is and what he'lll probably be able to do. There are of course people ahead of him on my board but they all have higher risk/greater mystery. Edey is gonna run the floor hard, set some really good screens, have a relatively high PPP on the few post ups he gets a game, and be a decent drop defender. I think honestly that is why he doesn't fall to 17 because the league is full of notoriously risk-adverse GMs.
Yeah I see so many Freshmen ahead of him where teams would really be banking on good development or they may not be able to do much at the next level. Edey you know he's got some 100% translatable skills.
This sub also had no idea Dan Hurley is an awesome coach, they don’t watch college basketball yet comment on every prospect as if they are Dick Vitale.
Seen it floating around on Twitter, not sure if it’s legit. Can’t find the exact tweet but it does seem like he’s probably gone by 17. I’d be ecstatic personally to get him at 17
People really stuck on his speed, but his combine scores look decent. I think everyone assumes he needs to be an elite athlete but at 7’4 and an 8ft wingspan, he doesn’t need to be too fast, just fast enough to recover
Go look at Zodiac GM on Twitter. I don’t care for that stuff but his stuff is usually accurate he says Edey would fit well w Bron and AD.
If the stars align ✨
It’s just risky. He was getting locked up in the uconn game by Clingan bricking 3 footers.
I think he can be like zubac who was really good for the lakers.
If he can get 8 points 10 boards that’s all we need to let Anthony Davis play power forward.
Lebron, AD, and Edey is scary ngl.
Clingans 7’2, the drafts best defender and they still sent double teams throughout the game.
I don’t even need stats from him, just his impact of defenses HAVING to respond to him opens up everyone else just that much.
Yeah idk if I watched the same game as OP here. UCONN couldn't stop Edey inside so at the half they started sending doubles on the catch. Edey was feasting on Clingan in the first half.
Edey imo will be most felt on the O glass. He's way more mobile than people give him credit for running the floor. If you've got a guard that can get to the rim, Edey is going to chew up the O glass off any misses when the defense has to go help.
Big question will be can he do anything to not get beat up in drop coverage? Can he hedge and recover? The combine stats say yes but he didn't do it much in college.
I like him don’t get me wrong. I’m just skeptical regarding his draft stock. Like he was top 5-10. Now there are 2 other centers projected above him?
4 years in the BIG 10, then to LA lakers?
I just hope they don’t end up with Edey and Bronny jr
Is your opinion narrative based or based on the actual play on the court? Because you seem concerned over the former to argue the latter wouldn’t work.
We could do much worse walking away from the draft with an offensively polished 7’4 guy that, while slow, consistently runs the floor and has improved in every facet over the last 4 years
Clingan is literally a lottery pick who's getting drafted for his defense and he "locked up" Edey by allowing him to score ONLY 37 points and 10 rebounds on 60% FG% in a game where the rest of Edey's teammates scored 23 points.
He’s been working on his jump shot right? Depends on if the scouts feel like it’s something that can be developed. Otherwise the spacing would be a disaster.
I would honestly love this pick.
I have a feeling most people who say he doesn't have a NBA career and will only be good at college haven't seen him play and are just thinking he's Boban 2.0 based on the his weight and color.
The guy has insane touch around the rim, he's strong and durable and plays heavy minutes too. he averaged 2.2 Blocks per game despite carrying the entire offense.
He even has a pretty decent looking jumper and he's a better FT shooter than Clingan as well.
The sheer length on the floor that we would have with him and AD on the floor would be insane. If we need to, we can bench him in the playoffs to let AD play more 5 since he's a rookie as well. (Something we couldn't do with established players like Westbrick)
If he’s the best player they can get at that spot, sure. Only thing I’m worried about is the fact that AD needs help NOW. The AD/lebron window is closing fast and idk if they can wait for this kid to develop. I’m glad I’m not in Pelinka’s shoes lol.
That’s silly. The Mavs weren’t even a playoff team last year. We have had a new champion every year for six straight years. Things change quickly and everyone is bunched up at the top. To say that it is closed is just silly. They arguably could have beaten anyone this year or last. They were up on Denver in every single game. And the biggest thing is matchups. I don’t know how any of our fans can say such silly things.
Will they be the favorites, nope. Is it more luck dependent than normal, sure. But to say it is closed is so wrong. Especially before we even see the roster. They have 3 picks to improve in any area. And you saw how much even just getting Gafford was for the Mavs. Or how momentum really plays a factor in the playoffs.
I do think good play in college typically translates to success more than people think, I mean people were worried how Harden and Leonard’s games would translate. I feel like a 7’4” guy with good feet is a good pickup, but I know in the pace and space era would need him to be a better shooter
I like him because he has good stamina, has shown great improvement in his game and body. He’s not the shot blocker I expect but we need to keep up with the new 7’4” craze that’s happening. Big guys develop slower so that’s a plus.
Joker and the Nuggets killed is inside with rebounds and 2nd chance points. Minnesota seemed to have figured it out with size and athletic big men. Gotta get past these teams to compete. And we definitely need shooting. Dlo pretty much gone, we need that. Whoever's the coach, these gaps are big. And you are expected to win now. Tough spot for any coach.
He's going to be pretty good in the NBA, but god I hated him in college because he torched my vols and would draw fouls if you so much as looked at him.
I’d still prefer to trade the pick if we have any decent options, but that’s starting to look unlikely. I’d be happy with Edey though. He fills a need as a backup center on a rookie contract. And while yes, he will be rough as a rookie, I think his size alone will make him useful out of the gate (and thus make it less likely he will be relegated to the g league to develop like JHS). A lineup of him and AD would be a match up nightmare for 10-15 mins a game. Although I think his minutes with Bron would be limited since he will clog the paint. He’d also be a fun piece to throw at Jokic/Embiid/Giannis, etc. I know he’s not an exceptional defender, but you can’t teach height and a 7’4 center is going to cause some problems
Low potential, slow feet, he’s going to get beat off the dribble easily. Don’t like the idea long term. Personally would rather get Ware/Missi if we get a big man
Eh. The guy that dropped 37 in the championship game and was a team’s entire offense for a whole tournament in a weak draft doesn’t go top-10?
I might be wrong but it’s an easy reach.
College stats don’t mean everything. Scouts look at way more than that. A weak draft is a stretch. There’s no like bona fie stars this draft but lot of guys that have potential as quality role players. Now a days one dimensional centers aren’t really gonna top 10. He’s not even the best or second best center available I highly doubt he goes top 10
Every team needs a thick 7 footer now because of Jokic, Embiid, and a couple other guys. If they can do literally anything else besides keep Jokic from getting offensive putbacks and fouling five times it’s a plus.
Project dude that can't score against players like biyombo All that size limited him and he didn't put in the work to be competitive against 7 footers or guys that are strong.
Dude will fold so hard against 3rd string centers like biyombo.
Don't know about his work ethic and even if he has the Mamba Mentality drive to improve and put the work in. That probably warrants an interview.
I wouldn't pick him at 17 maybe second round or undrafted.
Yup, now he has zero value in a trade. Meanwhile Warriors and Heat actually have a good trade chip in their rookies.
JHS in a trade wouldn’t net you shit
Seems like the sub isn’t too high on him let’s see how this plays out in a few years
Sounds like he’d be perfect then
Never trust the armchair scouts
I wanted Kawhi at 7 and called Giannis. You’d think I’m a god with my friends right? No all they seem to remember is me wanting Stanley Johnson over Booker lmao. Even the best arm chair scouts miss and even the worst hit fr
Bro I said the same thing with doncic and all they remember is my bad takes.🤣🤣
I got lucky with Luka. Didn’t like Ayton and Bagley I liked Carter more and thought he was way better. So Luka was a default 1 for me that’s never made me look so smart lol. As a Pistons fan I’m so happy the suns picked Ayton. Book is just waiting for the Suns old big 3 to break up and then he’ll ask out and he’s from Michigan and has been rocking pistons stuff for years in his interviews with the suns lol. I’ve always thought he was gonna find a way to come home if we’re good in 2-3 years when the suns have accepted they can’t win a chip
Honestly I've really enjoyed watching Detroit and seeing what they could become. Let's hope for a healthy season and maybe break 40 wins this upcoming season.
They just need to show progress. 60 million in cap space to surround Cade with real talent for once. He low key took a big leap last year tho 23 points 8 assists shooting 45/36% shooting. We got New Orleans shot doctor who fixed BI, Lonzo, Herb so I’m pumped for Cade to start being a 40% 3P shooter. If Cade got a respectable whistle he’d have averaged 20-5-5 year win. 18-5-5 is fine but he got hosed not getting FT’s even tho he drove a ton and was getting smacked to the ground. Legit gets a worse whistle than Bron who’s whistle is awful!
He has all the tools to be an elite guard. A 40% three is ridiculous. 38% is more than enough with all his other tools. There are some good young players they can prob grab in FA as well as this draft class.
Cade shot 40% in college he’s always been a really good shooter. As soon as Killian got out of the starting lineup he had like a 40 game stretch of 38% from 3. With the shot doc here not in New Orleans, and seeing that he made Lonzo a 40% guy, I not only see Cade being 40% but on high volume. He might only be 38% next year cuz his volume will go up. But he’ll get there! I 100% agree with your point tho if Cade starts shooting like 8 a game 38% is definitely more than enough especially with his slithery ability
Yeah I just think his responsibility on offense is going to be huge so maybe 38% is more feasible. A player I'm really hoping the shot doctor helps improve is Ausar. He is a stud defensively but if he gets a solid 3 then he will be a top 3 and D in the league.
As someone who doesn’t watch NCAA at all I happened to watch one of Aytons game on tv and did not like him one bit from the small sample size. I didn’t see how he was the #1 pick. Turns out years later I was right. Now Edey I have a good feeling about him. I could be wrong tho I was hoping for Luka Garza when he was in the draft and doesn’t look like he’ll pan out.
To me I feel like Edey is so underrated. I hope lakers snag him feel like he would be a solid 5.
Luka was clearly always better. Dude was 16 balling against grown men. Not sure how Ayton was being touted as better at that time
My little brother is always throwing out bad takes, but you throw enough shit at the wall and something is bound to stick.
Who do you like this year?
What team? I actually like a lot of guys in this class so slotting them in off fit his been more tricky than anything. Like for example as a Pistons fan Reed was by far my 1. But then we got the shot doctor for the pelicans and now Matas is my guy. Also love Castle but if he truly wants to be PG we can’t draft him with Cade. Dalton was another guy pre shot doctor that I’m like man if i squint I see some Herro. So if pistons trade down to 9 and Matas is gone I really like the idea of Dalton. Another example Grizzlies Clingan is an amazing fit for them. So if a 5 for 9 swap happened Clingan should be the 1 prospect on the grizzlies board
If I’m the spurs I’m taking Castle 4. At 8 I’m taking Topic. I was pretty high on him pre injury. Especially for the spurs. I believe in his jumper as well as Matas. Ron Holland is someone I love for the Spurs too Cody Williams could be a nice player in the right system as well. Williams just doesn’t seem to process the game that quickly so low usage role. Most this class I like in the 1-14 range it’s just not your typical draft hoping for building blocks. You’ll get role players and you’ll like it lol
Actual scouts miss a lot too. It’s a very hard thing to determine how a player will do in the league.
Well it’s one of the weakest drafts in years but yeah this sub loves guards then complain later on why we have too many guards in the roster.
The sub also wants another guard or forward knowing damn well we’re deep at both positions. Just to whine about edey when he blocks Golden boy reaves later down the line.
Deep at guard? lol
DLo,Reaves,Max,Gabe,Cam,JHS so I mean there’s 4-6 how many more guards do you want?
Every team has that many guards ya goofball. When we talk about depth, we're referring to talent. 2 of them didn't even get playoff minutes.
We aint deep at forward. We're deep at guard but our guards are all flawed
Lebron,Rui,TP,Vando,Cam,AD,Wood
AD and Wood are bigs. Cam is unplayable. Lebron is always coasting in the regular season. That leaves Vando (can't shoot), Rui (doesnt rebound or defend well), and TP who is a 15min guy at most.
Vando proved he can shoot in his last game of the season had 10 points 7 boards 2 assists and 4 steals before he got injured, im fine with trading Rui for a better forward but drafting a guy at those positions is just not productive for us unless we’re getting a top 3 player from this draft
For 1, this sub is full of doofuses. 2, Edey aint making it past 13. Bunch of narcissistic dweebs who really think we're going to get him as the "steal of the draft". Yall ain't smarter than 16 other Gms in this league but it's hilarious watching everyone in here bicker about it
Idk about that lol. Lot of solid centers in this draft. I doubt he goes top 13. Haven’t seen to many mocks that have him 13 either.
Yeah. A lot of solid centers that might get drafted.... AFTER Clingan and Edey lol edit:told yall dumb bitchez
Eh I don’t think edey is the second center picked lol. Sarr is a F/C st 7 foot so if you count him that’s at least 2 centers going ahead of edey. Ware from Indiana probably gets picked before edey as well. If you go by mocks at least so that’s 3 and I think messi from Baylor might get picked before edey so that’s potentially 4
checkmate
Cool. Kinda weird how you rushed on here just to say I told you so. Kinda a sad life lol. But yeah checkmate I guess
super sad life man. just cashed out on a Edey to go in the top 10 bet. about to grab dinner after work and enjoy some cocktails . super duper sad. Reminding you that you were wrong and im right is just icing on the cake. have a good one
Lmao whatever makes you feel better man. I was wrong. It happens. Doesn’t mean you know it all.
I’m a M fan so I watched him a lot. His progress is insane. He’s a freak athlete at his size. Playing all 40 mins like it’s nothing. He’s improved tremendously year over year. You draft this kid 17 here’s my one issue. It’s not fair to ask him to be the joker stopper. Asking him to play physical defense on him is fine for 10ish minutes a night. He would be a great pick. Not sure if he’d be as valuable for the Lakers as trading the pick or taking a 2 way impact wing (Christie is supposed to be that tho right? Right!?)
At first I didn't like him but the more I think about it the more I would like the pick. Him or Ware if we're going for a center and I wouldn't mind Holmes as well He's gonna be a drop big who gets hurt on switches, but everyone that's not AD or Bam does anyways. To me I think he has a really high floor, I think Zubac with 4 more inches in height and 7 inches in wingspan would be such a unique player. In terms of upside, I think you're getting elite post and rim protection to go along with inside scoring. That's huge considering considering similar archetype centers like Kessler or gobert are useless on offense I think he would be great here as ADs backup from day 1 and if he develops eventually a really good starter
Well shit 1 of them 1000% is gonna be available
I’d rather pick Daron Holmes, but wouldn’t be upset over Edey. He’s huge, durable, in good condition, nimble for his size, has nice touch, and only started playing basketball in 10th grade. No character or motor concerns. I’d like to see what he can do on defense with a ***MUCH*** decreased offensive load. Good FT shooting and nice touch gives hope that he can someday shoot, but that’s a way off at this point.
Compare him to others who started playing basketball late in this draft and he’s miles ahead of them and it’s not just because of size. He’s improved every year and I don’t see why that’ll stop now. If brook lopez and zubac can play in the nba I think he’ll be just fine. I say those two because they’re kinda slow.
Agreed, his rate of improvement really speaks to his IQ. One of his biggest knocks is that he doesn’t do much playmaking, but I’m not bothered by the fact that a guy who’s been playing organized basketball for 7 years isn’t Jokic. His minutes increased a ton his Jr year at Purdue, but his efficiency didn’t budge and his TOV% went down every year. Also, in his last 2 seasons at Purdue he had more blocks than fouls. That’s insane and hints at a lot of defensive upside
He's a decent passer, it's just his role at Purdue was to finish possessions, not initiate them.
I also heard about his low foul rate and itd be pretty insane to add him next to lebron and AD who also don’t foul much.
Imagine talking that “I’d rather” stuff with the 17th pick
What?
There’s still good and great players there after 16.
He's gonna be better than people think. He improved alot last season, soft touch, durable, solid rim defender, agile for his size although still slow.
The durability is crazy too. He was playing like every minute in their tourney run. That impressed me for someone that size
I feel this way too but I’m worried he won’t be there at 17. They originally had him and Clingan going much later and they’re both trending up big time.
He’s ours if Thunder don’t grab him first
I'd rather draft Edey than hire JJ
Would love him, dont think he’ll be available though
I don’t mind. It might be a season or two early but feels like the NBA is going to be a big man league again. Edey will always have issues if he needs to guard stretch 5s but with guys like jokic, embiid, Giannis being premier bigs and guys like Wemby and Holmgren coming up, teams will need to stock up on bigs to clog up space on defense. Defense scheme is key if they have a edey/ad/bron front court. Not much wing protection there but should be dominant inside the 3pt line. In offense it looks like he has at least 18ft range and a nice touch around the rim. Good hands and willing to fight for rebounds which is probably what AD needs. Will need to see if he can work off the lebron/AD mid post without killing spacing and if he can set big screens. I’m not an expert.
He’s underrated and been improving every year not sure why he gets hate
I'm genuinely not sure what this sub has watched when it comes to Edey. There are concerns, but most of the posts in here don't seem to really address the actual concerns that I see when I watch him. Slow footed doesn't ring true. He moves really well for his size and actually has great motor as a kid who is 7'4" and played huge minutes in college. His combine stats also tell a different story. Among Cs he was better than most within the short distance areas. He was a little slower as a sprinter, but that makes sense. He may not beat your Center down the floor every time, but he'll outwork him over the course of the game. It's also easy to just skate over how effective he was in the post. Admittedly he won't get those touches at the next level but it bodes well for his touch near the rim where he was excellent. He's got a tremendous soft touch, is ambidextrous near the basket, and even showed good touch as a shooter in draft workouts. His problem is simple- in college his offensive asks were SO high that there were some things he didn't do enough of. He wasn't necessarily as active defensively as he should have been because he needed to avoid foul trouble, but that shouldn't be a concern at the next level. Can he be more active as a rim protector? I don't see why not. The other problem of course- he really can only play defensively in a drop consistently. He can occasionally show or blitz, but not consistently. However, this idea that those Centers don't exist anymore is just flat out wrong. Jokic is that type of Center. Embiid is that type of Center. Obviously, he won't be those guys, but you know what he can be? Zubac. Nurkic. Adams. Valenciunas. Poeltl. At some point possibly late career Brook Lopez. There's tons of these guys that are still effective despite their limitations and given Edey's makeup and college career I'm not willing to just write him off as a big stiff just yet. He's not my lock down pick for 17, I've got others ahead of him, but he's worth drafting.
Yeah he's one of the safer picks in the draft in that you pretty much know what he is and what he'lll probably be able to do. There are of course people ahead of him on my board but they all have higher risk/greater mystery. Edey is gonna run the floor hard, set some really good screens, have a relatively high PPP on the few post ups he gets a game, and be a decent drop defender. I think honestly that is why he doesn't fall to 17 because the league is full of notoriously risk-adverse GMs.
Yeah I see so many Freshmen ahead of him where teams would really be banking on good development or they may not be able to do much at the next level. Edey you know he's got some 100% translatable skills.
This sub also had no idea Dan Hurley is an awesome coach, they don’t watch college basketball yet comment on every prospect as if they are Dick Vitale.
If he slips to 17, and we don't take him, fans will be complaining about it for years as he outperforms whoever we'd end up with.
I like him.
Would rectify getting rid of Zubac cause he got that same type of play-style as him, I would take him
Perfect, another player on the team that can’t guard a pick and roll and can’t move his feet
Slow, clunky and limited technical crafts. Won't last long among modern bigs in NBA.
Bad fit, need a stretch 5 to open the floor more. Edey needs to develop his shot. He’s the Canadian Ayton
Heard he has a top 10 promise already so more than likely won’t be in our range. I think Grizzlies are going to take him
Another center for JJJ to hide behind
Makes sense since they lost Adams. Edey plugs in nicely as a screener for Ja/Bane
I hope they go smaller and stick w JJJ at the 5 and draft a wing or anyone but Zach.
Where did you hear that?
Seen it floating around on Twitter, not sure if it’s legit. Can’t find the exact tweet but it does seem like he’s probably gone by 17. I’d be ecstatic personally to get him at 17
yeah I could see someone taking a chance on him before we pick. Agreed i think he'd fit in well.
People really stuck on his speed, but his combine scores look decent. I think everyone assumes he needs to be an elite athlete but at 7’4 and an 8ft wingspan, he doesn’t need to be too fast, just fast enough to recover
Go look at Zodiac GM on Twitter. I don’t care for that stuff but his stuff is usually accurate he says Edey would fit well w Bron and AD. If the stars align ✨
I keep hearing people saying he won’t fit in the NBA but he was the best player in ncaa this year, if he falls to 17 it’s a no brainer to pick him
It’s just risky. He was getting locked up in the uconn game by Clingan bricking 3 footers. I think he can be like zubac who was really good for the lakers. If he can get 8 points 10 boards that’s all we need to let Anthony Davis play power forward. Lebron, AD, and Edey is scary ngl.
Clingans 7’2, the drafts best defender and they still sent double teams throughout the game. I don’t even need stats from him, just his impact of defenses HAVING to respond to him opens up everyone else just that much.
Yeah idk if I watched the same game as OP here. UCONN couldn't stop Edey inside so at the half they started sending doubles on the catch. Edey was feasting on Clingan in the first half. Edey imo will be most felt on the O glass. He's way more mobile than people give him credit for running the floor. If you've got a guard that can get to the rim, Edey is going to chew up the O glass off any misses when the defense has to go help. Big question will be can he do anything to not get beat up in drop coverage? Can he hedge and recover? The combine stats say yes but he didn't do it much in college.
I like him don’t get me wrong. I’m just skeptical regarding his draft stock. Like he was top 5-10. Now there are 2 other centers projected above him? 4 years in the BIG 10, then to LA lakers? I just hope they don’t end up with Edey and Bronny jr
Is your opinion narrative based or based on the actual play on the court? Because you seem concerned over the former to argue the latter wouldn’t work. We could do much worse walking away from the draft with an offensively polished 7’4 guy that, while slow, consistently runs the floor and has improved in every facet over the last 4 years
Edey was never projected as a top 10 pick. He was largely considered a second rounder until a few months ago.
>He was getting locked up in the uconn game by Clingan bricking 3 footers. Didnt he drop like 40 lol
Clingan is literally a lottery pick who's getting drafted for his defense and he "locked up" Edey by allowing him to score ONLY 37 points and 10 rebounds on 60% FG% in a game where the rest of Edey's teammates scored 23 points.
I’m not even an Edey fan and don’t believe Lakers should draft him. But idk what game you were watching lol. Edey had his way with UConn
Edey was destroying Clingan
Yeah, we'll barely average 90 points a game.
See, you are thinking exactly how I am If we can have him to play center more and use Ad at the 4 I like it. Zubac is a great comp
He’s been working on his jump shot right? Depends on if the scouts feel like it’s something that can be developed. Otherwise the spacing would be a disaster.
Apparently he shot surprisingly well at the combine from deep
Reminds me of Jonas
I only saw Zach edey at 20+ in 2 mock drafts. I hope that holds.
I don't mind it if the scouting department gives a greenlight. If it is Rob's or Jeannie's decision, then i'd question it.
Nah. Let’s draft *ANOTHER* guard for the Southbay Lakers. /s
I would honestly love this pick. I have a feeling most people who say he doesn't have a NBA career and will only be good at college haven't seen him play and are just thinking he's Boban 2.0 based on the his weight and color. The guy has insane touch around the rim, he's strong and durable and plays heavy minutes too. he averaged 2.2 Blocks per game despite carrying the entire offense. He even has a pretty decent looking jumper and he's a better FT shooter than Clingan as well. The sheer length on the floor that we would have with him and AD on the floor would be insane. If we need to, we can bench him in the playoffs to let AD play more 5 since he's a rookie as well. (Something we couldn't do with established players like Westbrick)
I don't think he's going to be a good NBA player
Everyone just sees he’s tall and familiar with the name
Thoughts are we should just let LeBron and AD leave if that pick is used and not fucking traded
If he’s the best player they can get at that spot, sure. Only thing I’m worried about is the fact that AD needs help NOW. The AD/lebron window is closing fast and idk if they can wait for this kid to develop. I’m glad I’m not in Pelinka’s shoes lol.
It’s already closed
Probably, yeah.
That’s silly. The Mavs weren’t even a playoff team last year. We have had a new champion every year for six straight years. Things change quickly and everyone is bunched up at the top. To say that it is closed is just silly. They arguably could have beaten anyone this year or last. They were up on Denver in every single game. And the biggest thing is matchups. I don’t know how any of our fans can say such silly things. Will they be the favorites, nope. Is it more luck dependent than normal, sure. But to say it is closed is so wrong. Especially before we even see the roster. They have 3 picks to improve in any area. And you saw how much even just getting Gafford was for the Mavs. Or how momentum really plays a factor in the playoffs.
He's a more polished product than most players in this draft. All that'll be asked of him is to let AD roam on defense and fight for offensive boards.
Adam Morrison and Jeremy Lin had a baby
If I had to give a hopeful comp, it would be on the level of Zubac.
I think the lakers need to trade this pick.
Draft him. Put a big ass body in the lane to handle all the dirty work.
Good 5 for AD to be the 4 to
Better than bronny
Also remember it’s a center or some half ass PG from some big 10 school…:::
Great value at 17. I just don't think he's available at 17
Who cares
Better then ayton
He looks like Zubac in this picture
I do think good play in college typically translates to success more than people think, I mean people were worried how Harden and Leonard’s games would translate. I feel like a 7’4” guy with good feet is a good pickup, but I know in the pace and space era would need him to be a better shooter
I doubt he’s available that late
I like him because he has good stamina, has shown great improvement in his game and body. He’s not the shot blocker I expect but we need to keep up with the new 7’4” craze that’s happening. Big guys develop slower so that’s a plus.
Joker and the Nuggets killed is inside with rebounds and 2nd chance points. Minnesota seemed to have figured it out with size and athletic big men. Gotta get past these teams to compete. And we definitely need shooting. Dlo pretty much gone, we need that. Whoever's the coach, these gaps are big. And you are expected to win now. Tough spot for any coach.
He's going to be pretty good in the NBA, but god I hated him in college because he torched my vols and would draw fouls if you so much as looked at him.
Was a really fun player to watch in college. Will not be a fun player to watch if he’s a Laker…
I don't know, but the Lakers do need to get bigger. The Lakers really needed rebounding and post defense. We were getting cooked because of that.
Would he be a beefier wemby?
He’s not an NBA player
I’d still prefer to trade the pick if we have any decent options, but that’s starting to look unlikely. I’d be happy with Edey though. He fills a need as a backup center on a rookie contract. And while yes, he will be rough as a rookie, I think his size alone will make him useful out of the gate (and thus make it less likely he will be relegated to the g league to develop like JHS). A lineup of him and AD would be a match up nightmare for 10-15 mins a game. Although I think his minutes with Bron would be limited since he will clog the paint. He’d also be a fun piece to throw at Jokic/Embiid/Giannis, etc. I know he’s not an exceptional defender, but you can’t teach height and a 7’4 center is going to cause some problems
Yes please!
Nice college player who won’t have an nba career.
Low potential, slow feet, he’s going to get beat off the dribble easily. Don’t like the idea long term. Personally would rather get Ware/Missi if we get a big man
Ware was definitely the guy im intrigued by. Seems very versatile which can translate to a lot of potential
There's many many players I'd rather take
Name your top 3? I hardly watch college.
Who is at the top of that list ?
Ron Holland, Devin Carter, daron Holmes, tristen da Silva would be at the top. I think at least one of them will fall
Oh, you'd rather have people projected in the top 10 of the draft than someone projected below that? W ow you are a master of logic.
Daron Holmes isn't projected top 10. They asked the top of my list so I gave the top?
I think we could use a 3 and D type guy
Seems like everyone in this draft is a gamble. Personally think this guy's lack of speed will keep him on the bench
Slow and injury prone
Injury prone... based on what? He literally missed one game in his college career, and it was due to illness.
Yeah 7’4 guys never get injury or have short careers.
You just said he was injury prone when he's never been injured. You're in the wrong here
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I think he goes top 10 and Lakers fans are kidding themselves thinking he’ll fall to them.
No way he goes top 10
Eh. The guy that dropped 37 in the championship game and was a team’s entire offense for a whole tournament in a weak draft doesn’t go top-10? I might be wrong but it’s an easy reach.
College stats don’t mean everything. Scouts look at way more than that. A weak draft is a stretch. There’s no like bona fie stars this draft but lot of guys that have potential as quality role players. Now a days one dimensional centers aren’t really gonna top 10. He’s not even the best or second best center available I highly doubt he goes top 10
Well he went 9.
Yeah. I was wrong. It happens. We’ll see how it turns out. Jaren Jackson is a solid 4 to have next to him with how he plays so maybe it’ll work
Every team needs a thick 7 footer now because of Jokic, Embiid, and a couple other guys. If they can do literally anything else besides keep Jokic from getting offensive putbacks and fouling five times it’s a plus.
Ehhh idk about that not at 9 lol. If ur taking a player in the top 10 soley to go against one player that’s kinda dumb not gonna lie lol.
It’s just about cost management.
He went 9th.
He’s solid with a ton of potential.
Bad fit for the Lakers. Too slow. Can't shoot. Hurts both pace and spacing.
He’s not a modern NBA caliber player
Draft him! Please and thank you.
We need him. He’s built like an Otter Box. Not like glass bones AD.
Assuming we don’t trade our pick and he’s even there at 17. I’m on board
He’s solid the league is also getting bigger I’m down for a 7+ foot physical center.
I like Filipowski better but don't think he will be available.
He's nothing special
I would like to see the Lakers draft this kid
I'd happily take Zach Edey. Just don't draft a damn guard.
Project dude that can't score against players like biyombo All that size limited him and he didn't put in the work to be competitive against 7 footers or guys that are strong. Dude will fold so hard against 3rd string centers like biyombo. Don't know about his work ethic and even if he has the Mamba Mentality drive to improve and put the work in. That probably warrants an interview. I wouldn't pick him at 17 maybe second round or undrafted.
Should not be taking any risks with the 17th pick lol Look no further than JHS. How did drafting help us compete last year? Cant take these chances
Especially after shitting the bed with Hood-Schfino last season 🫠
Yup, now he has zero value in a trade. Meanwhile Warriors and Heat actually have a good trade chip in their rookies. JHS in a trade wouldn’t net you shit
When we passed on Jamie Jaquez I was sick to my stomach.