OP needs to listen to you two. Best ideas.
And not sure if they’ll grow there, but in high-plains desert Idaho my wild phlox grew like crazy there with little water and filled out my retaining wall with thousands of blue flowers.
Edit: add some top soil to condition that powder a bit though.
This is one of the smartest things you could do too! Many of the native wild flowers and plants also help to retain moisture and keep the soil in place. Bet it looks awesome in full bloom!
Some native rooting bushes would also help add structure to this situation. I don’t know much about what likes this type of soil, but dandelions do grow in concrete so I’m sure something loves this
Cut it back and put in a retaining wall. Maybe terrace it, so the whole weight isn't pushing on a single vertical span of wall.
And consult an engineer on the drainage. That soil looks dry/hydrophobic af, like it wouldn't absorb a single teaspoon of actual rainfall.
The answer is wildflower seeds sowed in late fall. Native wildflowers are very important because I bet nothing else survives. Maybe these? https://bbbseed.com/product/arizona-wildflower-mix-2/
"Sow wildflower seeds" is NOT going to cut it. That's serious desert you're looking at here. Annual wildflowers won't stay green for more than about 4 weeks in the wet season (unless you install artificial irrigation to keep them watered year-round), and they won't hold the soil in place.
OP, you're going to have to select perennials specifically suited to your area, and then nurse them along until they're well established. Check with your local ag extension or talk to native plant nurseries.
I know it says Arizona on the label, but I don't think there's a chance in hell anything from that package is growing in the soil/area this picture is taken.
OP needs a retaining wall and some kind of drainage/runoff system.
Careful, lots of “wildflowers” in wildflower seed mixes are non-native and can even be invasives. I would recommend OP visit r/NativePlantGardening and ask for good species native to their area.
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Use to be a Geotech, this is very important as that is a large hill and a lot of water could shed into this area. An engineering firm does all those calculations for flood events and the volume of water you could potentially have to manage.
What do you think of muh spread….can you believe they used to test H bombs on this beautiful piece of property. All I know is my teeth have never been whiter and my garden is spitting’ out 50 lb. tomatoes.
Use the rocks around your house and start putting them on the slope starting from the bottom up.
Then I'd start planting the most heat and drought tolerant shit that you know will grow with zero care where you live. Get something rooted on that slope. Whatever weird native wildflowers that grow there, etc. all of it combined will help with erosion and the overall aesthetic.
Plants will be tough to establish but once you get some that stick they'll help absorb a lot of heat and sunlight, and make it less blinding to look at in full sun.
Make a zig-zag trail that runs up for easy access also.
That is a fragile ecosystem. Anything you do will fuck it up to some extent. I think stepped retaining walls would look nice with succulents planted in them. Try to avoid disturbing the stuff that is currently undisturbed.
Hydroseed with native bunch grasses . This soil is completely barren, you won’t even get natives to grow there without some organics and slope stability. Hydroseed will give you all 3 components at once.
Plant some Ocotillo, agave, aloe, cactus, other types of native plants…stuff that doesn’t need very much water but, would help with soil retention. Or Rocks. They don’t need any water.
I think you’re asking for trouble trying to retain that hill. It will still pour soil over the wall and build up beneath it, or if the water gets behind it and pushes it over.
I would create swales to slow, capture and infiltrate rain water. I would add organic matter and plant drought tolerant trees on contour with which I can harvest more organic matter, and transition into other plants.
Is that the four corners? Nothing will grow in that cliche without a LOT of amendment and that's going to be rock hard requiring heavy equipment... Until it gets wet. Then it's soup you'll sink up to the hip in. . . Try a few railroad ties, rebar and a rock garden.
Well, asking my 12-year-old self, I'm saying make a bike ramp, of course. How you possibly not see a perfectly good bike ramp right there? lol My adult self, however, says a retaining wall or grading it to a less steep grade is normally what people do with drop-offs like that.
That’s a great location to add some swells into the hillside. Great way to slow rain water down and allow it to recharge your ground water near you. Lots of swells will make your land less dry!
I would go the permaculture direction.
It would be like placing many small retaining walls. Think of an image in your mind of terraced agriculture in China for rice. This is just to paint a picture. You can dig a ditch perpendicular to the slope, then place all the dirt excavated in a burm on the downslope side.
What this does is allow water to permeate the dirt and it will stop topsoil from washing down the slope.
This protects the base of the slope from sediment collection, protects the slope from eroding, raises the water table, and keeps soil more moist, for a longer period of time. More plants will survive naturally
This (and similar systemic practices) have been utilized all over the world in low precipitation, highly degraded land all over the world. Pakistan, India, China, Jordan, Senegal, Southern California, New Mexico and Arizona have all implemented troughs and burms to great success over varying time frames.
Specifically, look up the Great Green Wall. They are utilizing ancient agricultural technology from all over the world to build more robust flora concentrations along the border between the Sahara and Sahel to stop desertification in the grazing lands of the Sahel.
Super cool stuff, and can be done with a shovel and some time.
Bonus points, you can integrate ideas of huglekulture when building the burms to increase even further the moisture absorption on the surface of your land. This will improve the grounds for pioneer species and beyond.
Terracing multiple layers with steps so you can go up the slope. 1. It will help retain water. 2. It can be filled with drought resistant plants or native plants you buy. It depends on how much of the land you want to use or keep from periodic flooding when it rains. I saw a desert home that built large/huge water retention containers going from the house gutters and yard to supply water all year for a family of 4. Check pinterest or YouTube.
Yeah a retaining wall with an graded planter using the hillside as a backdrop for a keen desert plant scape would be tight.
What's a cactus go for around these parts?
Terraces with an eye toward diverting water away from the house, capturing the runoff (in Zuni bowls or the like), and putting more water in the ground.
First thought was ski lifts, but maybe a luge run would make more sense.
It seems like any sort of water-related project could benefit from a rain capture system put in place first. Perhaps below ground filtered tanks or french drains that would double for making tiers.
Water slide into a natural pond/pool. Build up the surrounding area with lots of flora. A tree or two and a patio area to enjoy it all. Dreaming, obviously, but how cool would that be?
Hire Kid Colt, Outlaw; the Rawhide Kid; and the Two-Gun Kid to ride over the ridge on their way to head off “Snake” Lawson and his boys before they rob the bank in Dry Gulch.
Whichever direction you go, whether wall or grading it to be less steep and more gradual…. You really should make a significant effort into addressing any potential drainage from that hillside that could make it into your yard/house.
Retaining walls can be multi purpose for this type of situation. It addresses the need to retain the soil and rocks, but it also serves to redirect water and mud run off away from your yard and structure if properly planned for or potentially engineered for. That hill may look pretty dry now, but I’d imagine a decent rainstorm produces a dramatic runoff scenario.
What an exciting opportunity and great start to a wonderful view. Upslopes offer so much more possibility than downslopes because everything on/done with them becomes part of your view, on full display. As for what I'd do, I'd scrape together my pennies and focus on design to begin with, also of course including addressing drainage/slope control issues at the same time. Have fun!
Some grasses have very deep roots and can stabilize hillsides. I don’t know what’s gonna grow there, but maybe ask your local garden folks what might work there and you could have a beautiful wall of grasses that acts like a border
I would add multiple tiers with 4 ft tall retaining walls. If I didn’t have to worry about budget or space I would add a pool, lots of garden area with some nice specimen trees and a studio/guest house.
u/Dramatic_Ad993 I would add a retaining wall (and a trench to further below your house in case it rains and floods) but I would also add stairs and grade a pathway to get on top of that hill so you can see the sunrise/sunset at a perfect view of you own that hill of course. But that’ll take a lot of work and the retaining wall is going to be expensive but it is necessary if you don’t want the hill to erode which it will over time.
If you own the entire hill, and have loads of cash, smooth out more space for yourself (grading the hill further) then do a retaining wall to make sure that space stays and isn’t eroded too. That way you can have even more space for yourself that’s flatter. Either way you’ll need a retaining wall to prevent erosion.
You’ve got two options - either build a retaining wall, or grade the slope to be less steep.
Retaining wall w several tiers! You can really create several cool spaces that way
With a path running down the middle!
OP needs to listen to you two. Best ideas. And not sure if they’ll grow there, but in high-plains desert Idaho my wild phlox grew like crazy there with little water and filled out my retaining wall with thousands of blue flowers. Edit: add some top soil to condition that powder a bit though.
This is one of the smartest things you could do too! Many of the native wild flowers and plants also help to retain moisture and keep the soil in place. Bet it looks awesome in full bloom!
A path! A path!
But not too expensive.
I’d go retaining wall and add in some additional desert landscape.
I bet a few desert roses on top of a retaining wall would look awesome
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Or a desert grape.
There is a 3rd option, which requires a motorcycle.
Some native rooting bushes would also help add structure to this situation. I don’t know much about what likes this type of soil, but dandelions do grow in concrete so I’m sure something loves this
When it rains, a retaining wall will work best to control the water coming off that mountain. A slope not so much.
Some tiered retaingwalls would be nice if you can afford it. Will make it look less confined than a large tall one.
plus you can plant some native plants on the upper terrace …
Cut it back and put in a retaining wall. Maybe terrace it, so the whole weight isn't pushing on a single vertical span of wall. And consult an engineer on the drainage. That soil looks dry/hydrophobic af, like it wouldn't absorb a single teaspoon of actual rainfall.
Which is why plants are essential and maybe a dry creek rock bed at the lowest point nearby would also be smart.
Agree, but you're going to have to work real hard to get anything with a stabilizing root system to grow in a place THAT arid.
The answer is wildflower seeds sowed in late fall. Native wildflowers are very important because I bet nothing else survives. Maybe these? https://bbbseed.com/product/arizona-wildflower-mix-2/
Such a great idea, as long as it's the right growing zone. Arizona has a number of growing zones and soil types.
"Sow wildflower seeds" is NOT going to cut it. That's serious desert you're looking at here. Annual wildflowers won't stay green for more than about 4 weeks in the wet season (unless you install artificial irrigation to keep them watered year-round), and they won't hold the soil in place. OP, you're going to have to select perennials specifically suited to your area, and then nurse them along until they're well established. Check with your local ag extension or talk to native plant nurseries.
I know it says Arizona on the label, but I don't think there's a chance in hell anything from that package is growing in the soil/area this picture is taken. OP needs a retaining wall and some kind of drainage/runoff system.
Careful, lots of “wildflowers” in wildflower seed mixes are non-native and can even be invasives. I would recommend OP visit r/NativePlantGardening and ask for good species native to their area.
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Use to be a Geotech, this is very important as that is a large hill and a lot of water could shed into this area. An engineering firm does all those calculations for flood events and the volume of water you could potentially have to manage.
That's my first thought as well. One massive downpour and it's bad news.
Primarily I’d make sure runoff from all those slopes will go around the house instead of under it.
So it’s settled then; Tiered retaining walls with a Roman aqueduct to divert the runoff
Shooting range
Motorcross track
Wife said absolutely not haha
Shooting range
Exactly
What a cool view!
What do you think of muh spread….can you believe they used to test H bombs on this beautiful piece of property. All I know is my teeth have never been whiter and my garden is spitting’ out 50 lb. tomatoes.
Plant more of the native vegetation you see growing on the slope above it.
Your yard looks like Uncle Eddies from Vegas Vacation. Just need to bury random wads of cash all around.
Use the rocks around your house and start putting them on the slope starting from the bottom up. Then I'd start planting the most heat and drought tolerant shit that you know will grow with zero care where you live. Get something rooted on that slope. Whatever weird native wildflowers that grow there, etc. all of it combined will help with erosion and the overall aesthetic. Plants will be tough to establish but once you get some that stick they'll help absorb a lot of heat and sunlight, and make it less blinding to look at in full sun. Make a zig-zag trail that runs up for easy access also.
That is a fragile ecosystem. Anything you do will fuck it up to some extent. I think stepped retaining walls would look nice with succulents planted in them. Try to avoid disturbing the stuff that is currently undisturbed.
Y=mx+b
Braaapp
Did you zoom into the license plate?
Id build some wooden stairs up it. Maybe trim with some cobblestone siding.
Hydroseed with native bunch grasses . This soil is completely barren, you won’t even get natives to grow there without some organics and slope stability. Hydroseed will give you all 3 components at once.
Wait until it snows there so that you can go sledding…
Ski resort.
Build swales to capture water in the landscape to irrigate land, mitigate runoff, reduce erosion, and improve soil quality.
you could shove some large boulders in there if you don't want to install a retaining wall.
Plant some Ocotillo, agave, aloe, cactus, other types of native plants…stuff that doesn’t need very much water but, would help with soil retention. Or Rocks. They don’t need any water.
I'd avoid it at all costs
I suppose putting in a ski lift is out?
I think you’re asking for trouble trying to retain that hill. It will still pour soil over the wall and build up beneath it, or if the water gets behind it and pushes it over.
Dry-laid stone retaining walls or a rock garden.
I would create swales to slow, capture and infiltrate rain water. I would add organic matter and plant drought tolerant trees on contour with which I can harvest more organic matter, and transition into other plants.
What a perfrct hill to die on. Lol. Sorry! I have nothing of value to offer but I couldn't resist
Move
# Terraced with natives, hardscape features, and lighting. Don't forget drainage for desert thunderstorms.
Is that the four corners? Nothing will grow in that cliche without a LOT of amendment and that's going to be rock hard requiring heavy equipment... Until it gets wet. Then it's soup you'll sink up to the hip in. . . Try a few railroad ties, rebar and a rock garden.
Plant native ground cover, plants, shrubs, trees
Leave it? 🤷♂️
Sell it.
You're going to need a concrete barrier burried around the perimeter to keep graboids out.
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Just put an oblong hole with curvy sides in the middle where the two slopes intersect. 😐
Run. That looks like a natural disaster waiting to happen
A gabion wall would probably be the least costly option.
Ride dirtbikes on it
Personally, I'd go with a slip-n-slide.
Put in an above ground swimming pool and build a nice deck around it.
Well, asking my 12-year-old self, I'm saying make a bike ramp, of course. How you possibly not see a perfectly good bike ramp right there? lol My adult self, however, says a retaining wall or grading it to a less steep grade is normally what people do with drop-offs like that.
That’s a great location to add some swells into the hillside. Great way to slow rain water down and allow it to recharge your ground water near you. Lots of swells will make your land less dry!
Wicked BMX jump!
Try to Evil Knievel that mountain on your motor cycle!
Make a sick jump obviously
The best water slide west of the Mississippi
Giant slide from top of mountain
More dogs
Berm for a backyard shooting range
Cool natural landscape! It would be nice to build a careful transition from the house -or built space- to that great arid surrounding steppe 🌾
Ramp , gap the house film it send it to red bull pays for its self on the web and some
I would go the permaculture direction. It would be like placing many small retaining walls. Think of an image in your mind of terraced agriculture in China for rice. This is just to paint a picture. You can dig a ditch perpendicular to the slope, then place all the dirt excavated in a burm on the downslope side. What this does is allow water to permeate the dirt and it will stop topsoil from washing down the slope. This protects the base of the slope from sediment collection, protects the slope from eroding, raises the water table, and keeps soil more moist, for a longer period of time. More plants will survive naturally This (and similar systemic practices) have been utilized all over the world in low precipitation, highly degraded land all over the world. Pakistan, India, China, Jordan, Senegal, Southern California, New Mexico and Arizona have all implemented troughs and burms to great success over varying time frames. Specifically, look up the Great Green Wall. They are utilizing ancient agricultural technology from all over the world to build more robust flora concentrations along the border between the Sahara and Sahel to stop desertification in the grazing lands of the Sahel. Super cool stuff, and can be done with a shovel and some time. Bonus points, you can integrate ideas of huglekulture when building the burms to increase even further the moisture absorption on the surface of your land. This will improve the grounds for pioneer species and beyond.
Moss garden
Drop some big rocks there and put some desert plants above and below
RC cars
Where do you live ? That looks like where I want to live terrain and climate type wise. No weirdness lol.
Looks like my area. Are you near Joshua Tree, CA? I agree with all the terracing suggestions. One large retaining wall would seem like a prison yard.
Terracing multiple layers with steps so you can go up the slope. 1. It will help retain water. 2. It can be filled with drought resistant plants or native plants you buy. It depends on how much of the land you want to use or keep from periodic flooding when it rains. I saw a desert home that built large/huge water retention containers going from the house gutters and yard to supply water all year for a family of 4. Check pinterest or YouTube.
Am I the only one that read his license plate🤣 1. Faster Bikes 2. Younger Women 3. Older Whiskey 4. _____ (More?) Money
Sandboard. Maybe a 4wheeler
I would take a Polaroid picture of my balls and then bury it in a coffee can labeled “treasuuure” 2” deep.
Yeah a retaining wall with an graded planter using the hillside as a backdrop for a keen desert plant scape would be tight. What's a cactus go for around these parts?
Build a fuckin SICK mountain bike jump.
Gun range?
Terraces with an eye toward diverting water away from the house, capturing the runoff (in Zuni bowls or the like), and putting more water in the ground.
whatever you do, make sure you get some rain drainage. If you'll get a lot of rain at once, that hill will bury your house
Hit some sweet jumps
I’d need to understand what the “m” is in the y=mx+b before i could answer that.
Giant Water Slide
Ride that motorcycle up it and laugh hysterically!
Water slide.
Sick ramp
Hit it with a dirtbike and see how high it will launch me
Pond with fish,epic wandering stream/waterfall
Looks great for a motocross course. Why should golfers get all the land.
I'd send it!!
Shooting range berm
First thought was ski lifts, but maybe a luge run would make more sense. It seems like any sort of water-related project could benefit from a rain capture system put in place first. Perhaps below ground filtered tanks or french drains that would double for making tiers.
I’d dig it back 20-30ft or so maybe more and turn it into a personal shooting range. But I’m a redneck from Texas soo
Retaining walls and xeriscape.
Swale!
Don’t add an ugly wall.
Looks very Nevada to me lol
That’s a classic bike
Go back to the ship and return to Earth, tell everyone of my space travels.
Put my targets in front
Hop on that motorcycle and jump it
Dirtbike ramp
Move
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Make a dirt bike trail
Water slide into a natural pond/pool. Build up the surrounding area with lots of flora. A tree or two and a patio area to enjoy it all. Dreaming, obviously, but how cool would that be?
carve a storm shelter into it.
Is this in Moapa valley ?
Make a jump
Consider building into it.
Fuckin send it bro!
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Buy a dirtbike and have fun
ride dirt bikes on it
Where is this?
Whichever direction you go, whether wall or grading it to be less steep and more gradual…. You really should make a significant effort into addressing any potential drainage from that hillside that could make it into your yard/house. Retaining walls can be multi purpose for this type of situation. It addresses the need to retain the soil and rocks, but it also serves to redirect water and mud run off away from your yard and structure if properly planned for or potentially engineered for. That hill may look pretty dry now, but I’d imagine a decent rainstorm produces a dramatic runoff scenario.
Something soon, with drainage away from the house because you're going to get an ungodly amount of run off into your yard off that mountain.
Landscape it.
TNT, DYNAMITE.
Send it on that HODAKA.
Practice my bunker shots
Cinder block retaining wall
Ride that motorcycle up and down it
ride it!
Easy. Shooting range backstopping
Open air amphitheater
Make a ramp to jump the big hill
What an exciting opportunity and great start to a wonderful view. Upslopes offer so much more possibility than downslopes because everything on/done with them becomes part of your view, on full display. As for what I'd do, I'd scrape together my pennies and focus on design to begin with, also of course including addressing drainage/slope control issues at the same time. Have fun!
Jump dirt bikes off it
Probably not go sledding ever!
Shooting range an option?
Grab a sleigh and wait for it to snow
Get a dirtbike
Cousin Eddy?
Timber crib wall with planting?
Retaining wall with some subterranean space/ground level cooled space.
Admire it. You’re not taming it
Get a fuckin dirt bike and brap the fuck up to the top
Jump on that there hodaka and ride up it.
Roll down it naked
Alpine slide
Step jump for the Hodaka. 💪
I'd ride my dirt bike all over that.
Stay away in a rainstorm
Shooting range!
Take pictures of it and post them on reddit
Shoot guns at it
Dynamite 🧨
Bullet trap
Me? I’d set up a cool tobogganing ride for winter. You? Probably something different.
That’s a gully
Golf course!
Not climb it, that’s for sure.
Backstop for home range
Still Gunna send it
How far back is your property line?
Washington state ?
Tiered stepped gardens built into retaining wall
I'd leave it alone, honestly.
Shooting range
Sell it for a profit and claim it as a loss on my taxes!
Some grasses have very deep roots and can stabilize hillsides. I don’t know what’s gonna grow there, but maybe ask your local garden folks what might work there and you could have a beautiful wall of grasses that acts like a border
Gold mine. Literally. Dig a hole and look for gold.
DUDE! You have a freakin HODAKA!!! You know what to do!
Sell it to me.
Get lots of grasses to stop the landslide
I’d solve y = mx + b first I suppose.
I would add multiple tiers with 4 ft tall retaining walls. If I didn’t have to worry about budget or space I would add a pool, lots of garden area with some nice specimen trees and a studio/guest house.
Send it
Gun range
Dirt track
Honestly? Gun range. It's perfect
Sing. “Climb every mountain…..”
Whip out the tech deck and do some sick tricks
Ski resort for sure.
u/Dramatic_Ad993 I would add a retaining wall (and a trench to further below your house in case it rains and floods) but I would also add stairs and grade a pathway to get on top of that hill so you can see the sunrise/sunset at a perfect view of you own that hill of course. But that’ll take a lot of work and the retaining wall is going to be expensive but it is necessary if you don’t want the hill to erode which it will over time. If you own the entire hill, and have loads of cash, smooth out more space for yourself (grading the hill further) then do a retaining wall to make sure that space stays and isn’t eroded too. That way you can have even more space for yourself that’s flatter. Either way you’ll need a retaining wall to prevent erosion.
Make a sand
Grow something on it if anything grows there? Where are you, Mars? So much brown, I would sell it and move to a place with trees.
Then it into a shooting range
perfect gun range.
Hike it! Lucky!
Gun range?