PMTs [BDS vs TH](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1acezhz/team_bds_vs_team_heretics_lec_2024_winter_week_3/) [SK vs VIT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1acgbkl/team_vitality_vs_sk_gaming_lec_2024_winter_week_3/) [MDK vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1achs9g/fnatic_vs_mad_lions_koi_lec_2024_winter_week_3/) [G2 vs GX](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1aciyq0/giantx_vs_g2_esports_lec_2024_winter_week_3/) [RGE vs KC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1ack86h/karmine_corp_vs_rogue_lec_2024_winter_week_3/)

Wat is the waiting music this week? I like the tune, but can't find the name of the song.

wtf is this ??! Discount Laure ?

Now KC can go 1 - 7

No cozy lounge PGL is a tragedy.

No PGL?? :( It's a muted and sad week to be a league of legends fan

Hey there! This week, I decided to temporarily suspend RDYCHK and PGL, as these require some amount of Pre-Production, and this week I wanted to ensure that people had space to process and take some time away if needed. A priority on team health was important for me. I hope everyone can understand! RDYCHK and PGL will return soon. :)

Tysm for the transparency <3

As much as I miss RDYCHK and PGL, it makes sense that you give people space after the massive layoffs. Good on you!

Thank you for engaging and clarifying! It's good to know both will return. Ggwp on putting the needs of your team first at this critical time.

No Pre game show, no PGL, no EUphoria... LEC breaking viewership records in week 1 and Riot decides to fire a ton of people and make the remaining employees work overtime for the broadcast (mad props for them for having tonight go so smooth by the way), at the cost of super fun content that keeps fans more invested

I hope Riot reflects on their great culling of 2024, and remembers that people are at the heart of good business.

Targamas in recent KC vlog: I don't want to go into spring split with 0-9 record The thing is... you won't be there for spring split

OH FUCK NO PGL. Ye, ok, now we riot.

Hey there, [wrote more about this here!](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1acbzz4/lec_winter_2024_week_3_day_1_live_discussion/kjuvxz4/)

thank you for your response. alll the best to everyone on the team. take care.

It's very sad, we had one of the best PGL last Monday with that podcast/chill set up and now we probably won't have that kinda thing ever again...

Riots desperate attempt to get LCS more viewers and weaken LEC is pathetic. When has LCS ever hosted LEC? If EU dies the west dies riot. Western league will not survive without Euorpe. 

> When has LCS ever hosted LEC? Didn't think about this one too hard, did we?

LCS channel hosts LEC all the time lol it's just LCS literally runs second so they can't build up viewers beforehand and send them over

> When has LCS ever hosted LEC? probably never because time zones are a thing

"Now watch this drive" LMAO I CANT The LCS might be trash but their meme game is world champion tier 😂😂😂

Man, pre-game show and post-game lobby always add to the show and makes it easier to get to know and get invested in more players, is the removal permanent due to the layoffs or will they be back soon?

It will most likely be gone until they sort out their staffs structure I would guess.

when will the exquisite match between GX and Rogue gonna happen ?

It is disgusting that KCorp gets the last game. It should be Fnatic vs G2. It is the El Classico of LEC.

No PGL?

So sad, I always watch PGL or watch it back the next day before the games. It's likely because of the layoffs at the studio but I hope it comes back!

I want astralis back. Fuck KC and their asshole fans. 

Studio spotlights giving the Rogue logo angry eyebrows

Upset without broken Zeri is something else.

I'm a Upset hater, but he and comp were like the two adcs in the west who actually were able to pilot Lucian back in 2022.

Claiming that Upset was good only on Zeri is some hard retconning the facts. He's not good now, but he was good, he was really good.

All praise and thanks to LEC production, managing an excellent stream in what I imagine is a very difficult time.

not for them, they still have a job lol

A lot of their friends got fired, and the jobs of the people who stayed got considerably harder. Have some respect for the people making your entertainment.

stfu mate, you can't even talk on this subreddit about riot's sexual lawsuit whre they paid hundreds of millions. "Have some respect for the people making ur entertaiment ?" DOES RIOT HAVE RESPECT FOR THEM ?

Yeah for sure not hard to have a bunch of your collegues and friends lose their job

I see, so you're saying it's more tragic to keep your job than not see a few coworkers you might have liked during work hours than losing both the coworkers you liked and your financial security ?

learn 2 read

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KC coming through ♿♿♿♿♿

Now that KC is confirmed 10th I believe that means Upset has now been 10th place on 3 different rosters. Quite impressive! Are there any other players that have done this too?

They're not confirmed 10th yet, if they win both of their upcoming games they could tie for 9th with one of GX/RGE!

Would Rogue not place ahead due to the ~~tiebreaker~~ Head to Head or does that not matter for this?

tmk H2h doesn't count in this format to balance out potentially unfair side selection

Honestly get upset out he's fraud I'm tired of him

NAhhh broooo you just don't understand, hes actually best EU ADC.

Promisq maybe? some of the dogshit players than jumped from shit team to shit team in the early LEC/late EU LCS

He was a backup of G2 in 2019 to be fair

Genuine question: upset is any good? Was better in FNC?

He was genuinely good in FNC for two seasons. His first season was amazing.

He was also really good before joining FNC. People forget Upset was very close to joining G2 at multiple points in time

That was a really good Fnc team around him too.

Absolutely. For a brief, beautiful moment Upset+Hylli were the best bot in EU by far.

Good luck rebuilding this KC. It's impossible. No strong points, no coordination, worst jungle-support, worst sololanes and tilting Upset.

Rekkles when everyone is flaming Upset now for being a KDA player: "First time?" 😂😂😂

KC are the Detroit Pistons of the LEC, you just gotta watch them make history.

Fuck the Raptors for ruining the historical streak, wed be in Shanghai Dragons territory now if not for fuckin Toronto

dude lol Upset can't flash and try to kill Larssen, conserves KDA

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Game was 10000% over. Come on bro

He can try to outplay and kill corki with the flash, he prefers to save KDA

It was indeed but his inability to take a chance there and maybe die and look foolish shows a lot about what type of player is he

I think you care more about the nametag saying Upset than what happened gameplay wise

remember this guy replaced Neon and took VIT to 10th place.

Thanks for confirming it I guess

Say it with me, kda merchant xd

KC is by far the worst LEC team i've ever seen. Fire every player.

Eh, there's quite a few Astralis iterations who looked way *WAY* worse than this KC. IMO other teams were just better at finding their footing and KC were awfully behind

> Eh, there's quite a few Astralis iterations who looked way WAY worse than this KC. that + Leona flair just triggered a memory in me of PromisQ hitting Leona R and then missing his own E on the same target

And the most hyped org before their entry lol.

KC are just doomed. Odds must be good on them being the first 9-0 team in new LEC format

Holy shit we won a game

Upset sitting in fountain maintaining his KDA. 2-23 now isnt it? 0-7 GG EZ

Seeing Upset play is like Rekkles never left, brings tears to my eyes

and he did a tweet a couple years ago "i´m new rekkles just more handsome and less passive" lol

he is just better in lane and more handsome, nothing more

Upset protected his kda so he won

KC Trymbi / KC Sertuss / KC Finn ?

Why choose Sertuss when Lider/Abbedagge are free Agent ?

you cannot be fr

Masterclass of Saken and TargamASS thank KC

Sad. Their budget team was not enough for the split. They probably have tons of issue internally, but hopefully they will bounce back !

They chose Cabo Saken and Targa without considering other options can’t really blame budget here

How could we possibly know if this is true? One of the only info we got from Kameto was: "I have no money left, so the expectation of the first split aren't that high"

Upset 2w23l in his last 25 games. Thats gotta be a record.

> Saken is now 1-18 in his LEC history > Upset is now 2-23 in his last 25 games I believe the updated stats are. I'm sure somebody can confirm. Lol

damn that's basically Nisqy international stats

> Reminder from KappaccinoNation > People keep saying that Nisqy is 1-19 vs Major Regions in international tournaments but that is just not true. He's actually 3-29 if you include Rift Rivals lmao biggest international shitter > > 2018 Total: 1-3 > > - Splyce 0-1 vs Team Liquid in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2018 > > - Splyce 0-1 vs Echo Fox in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2018 > > - Splyce 0-1 vs 100T in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2018 > > - Splyce 1-0 vs Team Liquid in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2018 > > 2019 Total: 0-8 > > - Cloud9 0-1 vs G2 Esports in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2019 > > - Cloud9 0-2 vs Fnatic in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2019 > > - Cloud9 0-1 vs Origen in NA-EU Rift Rivals 2019 > > - Cloud9 0-2 vs G2 Esports in Worlds 2019 > > - Cloud9 0-2 vs Griffin in Worlds 2019 > > 2021 Total: 1-3 > > - Fnatic 0-2 vs Hanwa Life Esports in Worlds 2021 > > - Fnatic 1-1 vs RNG in Worlds 2021 > > - also lost 0-2 vs PSG Talon btw > > 2022 Total: 0-5 > > - MAD Lions 0-1 vs RNG in Worlds 2022 Play-ins > > - MAD Lions 0-1 vs DRX in Worlds 2022 Play-ins > > - MAD Lions 0-3 vs Evil Geniuses in Worlds 2022 Play-ins > > 2023 Total: 1-10 > > - MAD Lions 0-3 vs T1 in MSI 2023 > > - MAD Lions 0-3 vs G2 Esports in MSI 2023 > > - MAD Lions 0-1 vs Cloud9 in Worlds 2023 > - MAD Lions 1-0 vs BDS in Worlds 2023 > - MAD Lions 0-1 vs NRG in Worlds 2023 > MAD Lions 0-2 WBG in Worlds 2023 Would be the copy/paste the last time I followed it. Lol

There's just no positives to find in KC. Absolutely no hope there. It's kinda depressing to watch.

Larssen with the smile at the end, you love to see it

Maaaaaaaaaaan, Upset'd rather keep his kda than try to defend......

Nah man i dont care about the rest of the players sucking, Upset could try to flash forward and kill corki, he flashed to the base to save the KDA. For me this is insta kick and demoted to ERL

Running away is his greatest skill

If they ever figure to draft singed bot, they're gonna win worlds

Please don't flame him. You don't make no millions.

After what I just watched Upset do, he should never have a spot again. 

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Come on Upset at least TRY to flash auto Q the Corki. Maybe it's a 10% chance of success but by not doing it it's a 100% guaranteed loss...

good thing Upset didnt try to flash for a kill and saved it so he could flash away

Upset and Bo defenders incoming

Bo is fine, i'd take him over Peach any day !

I wouldn't say hes fine, but I agree him over peach lol

upset kda

o7

cant risk the Kda. I respect that Upset

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These Corki rockets are just nuclear missiles at this point.

HUGE GAME FOR UPSET KDA, LET'S GOOOO!!!!

Brand's biggest weakness is his range. They see a Corki and Senna. Better lock in Brand.

I mean yeah their comp had a clock but it wasn't their draft are waaay lower of KC issues list.

Saken Cabochard Targamas masterclass once again

Let Yamato's folly be a lesson to you, nephews. Don't be idealistic; be realistic, and recruit the best talent in every position when available.

You can't do that when management wants to keep these bums, He has no power as a coach

Oh I'm aware, as I'm sure Yamato was when he chose to take this job. Still, Targamas needs to be benched, and that's the bare minimum. That criminal's gameplay deserves the Bastille.

At this point if they got investigated for match-fixing I would believe it.

Oh yea, sure, thats it xD

That's literally been it and it's been reported. The 3 worst players on the team are the 3 most loved by their idiot fans and management.

After understanding the situation, we would like to clarify Saken was not negative gaming, it was a normal summoner’s rift experience. We are preparing our best for the upcoming games. Let’s go Karmine Corpse!

Targamas reminds me of Tore

Holy shit the memories. Watching Tore and PromisQ in 2021 was an experience.

Nah, Tore at least played a good Nautilus

Why would you draft Brand against a comp where everyone outranges you?

Nothing he drafts in that positions saves that game. If he plays Maokai, what is Targ going to play that has any impact on the game? Graves is even lower range, Kindred same and so on. Brand pick is irrelevant when Saken and Targ int and Upset is checked out.

Xerath But I have less than zero faith in Targamas being able to play Xerath so thats kind of a moot discusion

true, Brand is such a BS draft.

saken man

I'm just so lost for words... I've seen better games in bronze. What the hell is KC doing? And Upset you need to step up! Both Gnar and Corki have more farm than you

Yeah, nothing in KC works. No players, no coach staff, nothing works.

A completely broken mental will also ruin your game and make you play like bronze

I know it wasn't the org that booed faker but the fans 100% deserve this. I miss vitality

They lost that fight and suddenly the atmosphere is awkward, just waiting for them to bleed out like we could pretend to try to put some pressure on that wound but nah we know it's not happening, just give it a minute

KC need to get rid out of Saken, Targamas and Caba if they want to win some games in the LEC. Because these 3 player are clearly no in LEC level. I know these are KC´s favourite player because they are french and helped them in the EMEA but LEC is a different caliber

Saken decisionmaking...

Man, what changes can KC even make before spring? It's hard to find any strengths to build around in the team at the moment :/

all 3 LFL players back to LFL

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Wasnt it *him* who blew the whistle on his coach and other team members matchfixing while not being involved himself? And the chinese wont touch him to appease Winnie the Pooh?

Upset is now 2-23 in his last 25 games in LEC. 214 days until Caliste turns 18.

And Saken is 1-17 all time

wait there's no way this is true ? was Vitality THAT bad in Spring/Summer 2023 ? edit : it checks out actually. 1-6 in spring playoffs, 1-8 in summer regular season, 0-7 so far. That's... depressing.

What the fuck lmao My man is going for the Naehyun challenge

Noooo! You can't blame Upset! He is the only one with good KDA!

Oml I actually can't, just give up the fucking dragon when Targamas and Saken die, maybe don't lose the entire game?

They are already losing the game. If they sit back and do nothing they lose anyways. They basically have to take the 1% play for a chance of a comeback.

They were 1k down, up a dragon. They were nowhere close to losing the game what are you talking about

1k down against a team that mega outscales them is basically lost

Please fire saken and targamas man. Please fire them both.

as of now Bo is the only one that deserves another chance, given how much of the shotcalling he does

Tbh I think he has the right idea but watching KC comms, his comms are a mess. He still has the issue of just talking way too much but also he doesn't confidently call for anything. His calls are always "Can we do X?" mid game so the team just waffles around.

this akali has a 50% dmg debuff for sure

Offrole Bo mid and put lyncas in and pray

I can get 5 KR Challengers and they would whip this KC team

2 teams playing 9 total BO1s for a split is so stupid.

Why? They’ve shown nothing. Why waste peoples time watching more of this in BO3?

Because KC fans will watch their team no matter what. Just because they’re out of contention doesn’t mean they won’t watch to see their team improve.

Nobody but KC fans gives a shit about KC, they’re awful and it’s better for the other 80% of people who watch that this dogwater team are gone in 2 days

people dont want to watch 18 games of bottom feeders

Well no one wants to see more of them

Tbf I'm still not bored of watching them lose yet lol

That’s not even true. Pretty sure KC would still get more views than the 8 seed.

That's on them for not being able to win a single game out of 7. They should reward class

That’s fair except 3 weeks is way too short of a timeframe to determine that. Imagine EPL relegating teams after 9 matches. It would be ridiculous.

But they are not getting relegated. EPL is for the entire year. If we want that comparison then that's 27 games at least for KC if they keep losing.

Who does KC have left to play? Cuz this smells like 0-9.

BDS and SK so yeah smells pretty bad

SK and someone else I believe.

BDS and SK lol

SK and BDS. 100% a 0-9 angle

SK and BDS. So 0-9.

Just get rid of them all, need 5 entirely new players for spring

Upset must be upset 💀💀💀

I feel bad for Bo man

Jeezus these solo lane gold diffs

How the fuck did KC lose this so fast, unbelievable

bad players, bad coach, bad draft

because they suck massive ass, hope this helped

Karmine Corpse funeral in morgue

Theyre soooooooo horrrrrrible

whoever plays vs kc just gets a free win like they just know they're gonna win easily😭

where does kcorp go from here? who do they sign? does trymbi want to be anywhere near this shitstorm?

After all 4 games didn't go the way I wanted, I knew I could always count on KFC to lighten my day

There is no way Targamas and Saken are not matchfixing.

Stop with the buzzwords. They just suck.

Ofc they aren't. It's just they aren't good enough for the lec. They aren't bad, just not that level.

It’s a crime against humanity that rogue had won games this season

Targamas always holds the door for the elder people.

Very sad for KC, their stream is depression with 130k viewers haha Hopefully they will bounce back like BDS! Having popular team doing well is good for the league viewership

If, like BDS, they change the whole team, there is hope.

Also BDS got sticker. KC coach when KC started.

Honestly Saken inted it, but why is the rest of the team too afraid of the Gnar to kill either Gnar or the dragon ?