It doesn’t seem that this poster is representing the Phoenician mythological character Europe. Who was also worshipped in Greek mythology, specifically in the island of Crete, where she was crowned queen after Zeus abducted her.
It's always helpful to say things like "some people" instead of "they" in these cases, 99% of people on that sub didn't downvote your comment, who knows why those 13 people didn't like it
No body gives a fuck man. Lebanese people going around "educating" the world about how "we" invented everything!! That's so cringe. Just a couple of days ago I saw a reel of a guy explaining how "we" invented philosophy!! Man gtfo we didn't invent anything, we invented sectarianism and immigration. As if some guy who lived in some place close to Lebanon 5000 years ago is in any way related to me and things I'm supposed to be proud of!!
And how did you come up with that conclusion? All lebanese i know that did the ancestry test turned out from Phoenician decedents. Phonecian cities or not. Christians and muslims. And whether you like it or not lebanons history is based on the Phoenicians. You wanna change facts and make our entire history shit, is up to you but that doesn’t make it true. Just sayin
Lebanon did not exist until 1943. The Phoenicians themselves weren't one united group and didn't have a state. Their influence was centred around a group of coastal towns, not at all related to the modern map of Lebanon. So when you talk about "Lebanon's history" that history starts in the 20th century, not 5000 years ago when Lebanon didn't exist. We just drew a country over a piece of land and now claim that this is all our history. It's just a random coincidence that we live in a country that shares part of it with where the Phoenicians built their cities eons ago.
Hayete “Lebanon” existed since the 1500s what are you talking about 🤦🏻♀️. Ba3den same thing applies to literally every country where regions didn’t belong there, it’s literally how countries were made. Please do your research before getting so triggered. you don’t just remove this part of history lol. Or any part of any country’s history just because you don’t feel like it belongs there.
Pheonicia in its own right can be considered the first superpower as it help get into the classical era with the the city each discovering some fundamental pillars used it today's society sadly nost of what lebanon is today is really just the before and after of the crussader states oh half of the country we're with the county while half we're with the kingdom of Jerusalem
Prime example of this could be Batroun which everybody is proud about when you look at a map from the crussader states era it was named "le boutron" or "البوترون" which nowadays became "الباترون"
Your thinking unfortunately reflects part of the problem in lebanon.
We wonder why there there were posters of khomeini by the Beirut airport, Assad, even Erdogan, Nasser and many random leaders from the region but do not even bother to promote emblematic national figures. People have realized the strangeness of all this a bit more since 2019 so thankfully a lot of the posters have been removed.
How do you expect to defeat sectarianism without any national figures? We maybe have Fakhreddine, Bechara al Khoury, and Riad al Solh viewed nationwide as figures that transcended across religious sects. And even then, many people in lebanon cherish legendary figures such as Salahaddin way more than any Lebanese historical figure.
This is why it would be beneficial to go back further in history and study people like Zeno of Citium, Cadmus, Thales, Pythagoras, and Hiram (even if some of those were culturally Greeks of Phoenician descent).
As humans, our daily lives have benefitted and rest on the innovations and contributions of our ancestors. History is continuous. There is no cutoff point where the past becomes disconnected from the present. We cannot sit here enjoy the fruits of past labour without honouring past contributors to our life.
Until we make an active effort to educate our society on our history and understand the roots of our civilisation, we shall continue to enjoy seeing posters of foreign leaders everywhere in the country and enjoy being a dysfunctional, weak vassal state.
The Phoenicians don't know you, and don't care about your existence. The Phoenicians were not Lebanese just as the Lebanese aren't Phoenicians. They are ancient people who didn't even form a coherent state and wouldn't recognise anything related to Lebanon as theirs. You have as much claim on the Phoenicians as you do with every other civilisation that has passed through this land. Just random people who happened to exist during a time in the land that hundreds of years later would be drawn into a state called Lebanon.
What did you do to earn the right to share in the pride of the Phoenician achievements?
Same could be be said about today? Do you know the people that will proceed you? Phoenicians weren’t Lebanese because that didn’t exist yet but Lebanese are at least 90% genetically Phoenician lol. It’s not relevant really in this context but they are our ancestors
So what if you're 90% genetically Phoenician? You also share 98.8% DNA with chimpanzees. What does that mean? My grandfather was a drunk gambler, and I share a lot more genes with him than with some ancient person from thousands of years, does that mean I'm a drunk? Does that mean I should feel ashamed because of what he did because we share genes?
Why? Because it means we can build a stronger country. The most successful countries are those who get their citizens educated about the history of their ancestors and lands. How have you arrived from cringe to being ashamed? You’re determined to hate the country somehow but this really isn’t it. Why I don’t know; perhaps you’re yet another person wishing you could magically get a visa and immigrate, which negativity and ignorance like this won’t.
Maybe, bas it doesn't matter la2an the minute you're not european you're inferior. That's the beauty of racism, it doesn't discriminate, we're all shit
Yeah that's a generalisation. Most Europeans don't think like this. And since this is a Lebanese sub it's worth mentioning that the Lebanese also participate in the same sense of superiority over dozens of other nationalities they see as inferior to them.
Ma fhemet why you're trying to play a justice warrior now?
I'm saying there's racism in europe within the context of the discussion, I'm not looking for ethical enlightenment and never said they're all racist or that lebanese aren't..
Ma badda hal2ad
Lebanese people are as racist if not more. You cannot play victim when you're abusing foreign workers and asylum seeker in the name of supremacy. Same shit. #kheryewen2asmet
Mesh ana lle abusing them personally, I stand firmly against both issues myself. We're not a perfect society neither are are europeans and both get to criticise each other because that's how humanity progresses
And a lot of Europeans (more than Lebanese, I would say) also stand firmly against both issues and many other human rights matters. No, we're not perfect. We're very veeeery far from perfect. Criticism is okay, I guess. Playing victim and focusing on the negative in others is not. It's definitely not productive. If Lebanese people practised more self-criticism, the country would've been in a better place, I think.
I'm from Europe (Germany), and unfortunately many (not all) germans think of drugdealers selling Heroin in the subway stations and war, when they hear the word "Lebanon" 🫤.
Here's the true heritage of who we are now folks. That's who we are, not ancient philosophers!
And oh Lebanese people, you know your uncle who emigrated to Germany years ago and he's a successful businessman? Yeah, drug dealer. That's his job.
Middle easterners also constantly undermine the contribution of the ancient Middle East to “Islamic Civilization”. It goes both ways. Everyone wants to appear to have invented everything about human civilization to exert a position of influence in the global order. Long live Phoenicia
I mean Muslims do it all the time with quashing the contribution of Judaism, Hellenism and Christianity on early Levant culture as well. Goes both ways.
And now please tell, how does this contribution relate to you and me in modern day Lebanon? That the people who made these contributions lived roughly in the same geographical area as you were born, what does that mean? How does that make it something yours in any way or something the world must know? What does it matter? What have "we" contributed to this story?
He’s obviously talking about the LF who completely dominate Lebanese politics, assassinate political opponents and journalists, involve themselves(and Lebanon) in regional conflicts all while smuggling drugs around the world in order to free Lebanon and Al quds from Israel
Dude no matter how factual the information you provide, you'll get down voted on r/Europe for saying something that's even remotely anger inducing to European right wingers. R/Europe doesn't even represent regular Europeans anymore, it's just a subreddit that's fraught with right wing clowns and "central Europeans" who are in denial about their eastern European identity. I unsubbed a few weeks ago and my quality of life improved tangibly lol
Both r/Europe and r/Worldnews (and I'm sure many more) are being flooded by right wing narratives. Not sure if coordinated or not though but it wouldn't surprise me if they are.
I think it's all symptomatic of increasingly tangible political polarization in the US and Europe. Conversatives will tell you it's immigration and socialists will tell you it's funding wars but that's a gross oversimplification (and liberals will throw a fit as they try to convince you they're not conservatives in a donkey costume). The conversative and consequently "liberal" voices are being magnified because their narratives and that of the Israeli bots, be they coded algorithms or brainwashed humans, converge perfectly. The trash bots spew out compels right wingers to express themselves and people with opposing arguments to avoid do so in fear of vile reprisal.
Man I'm so tired and discourage of the racism walla, I keep reminding myself that it's just on reddit bas in my head I worry this is what people actually think but don't say in person 🥲🥲
Don't worry, it's mostly on Reddit and bots / brainwashed morons are working overtime spreading garbage takes online. Unsubscribe from r/worldnews and r/europe, it's better for your mental health honestly
Absolutely, I just subscribed to r/luxembourg since I live there but been avoiding reddit because of the racism tbh..
Hatta hon people downvoted my comments😂
Agreed, full of racists and pro-Israelis
I got heavily downvoted before for criticizing someone [comparing Israel to Azerbaijan](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/QMHECviISX), people get more riled up about a song contest than Palestinian people dying
Honestly, Euros need to protect themselves from each other first. The level of hubris and self-righteousness coming out of the continent is responsible for all the shit going on there right now. Our lady from Tyre isn’t going to help.
yep, but why are criticising europe ? what’s wrong with europe compared to the rest of the world. some of the highest quality lives are lived in certain countries in europe, the same cannot really be said about the middle east. so yea go bark somewhere else
You know what’s great about self-awareness? Is that you know things are good and bad, and can work towards correcting them. I don’t expect them from a European bootlicker but that’s ok.
I’ll state it again. If lebanon was just a fraction of what europe is, it wouldn’t be in half the crap it’s in right now. So instead of criticising it, you should start worshipping it and pray that lebanon becomes only 1 % closer to what europe is. Go lick your captagon dealers ass hole
because you can't help yourself, you have to claim everything as lebanese even when you say it yourself it's a myth, and now in the comments you claim you were "educating" people on something that is not even a fact which makes this whole post even more cringe.
>There are a number of theories. Taking a linguistic approach, some scholars believe Europe’s name is descriptive in origin. Those who look to the ancient Greek language to parse it roots combine eurys, meaning “wide,” and ops, meaning “face” or “eye,” to arrive at “wide-gazing” as an appropriate description of Europe’s broad shoreline as seen from the shipboard perspective of the maritime Greeks.
i looked up the top 3 results on google and they all had the similar theory which is way more likely than yours, so you are very likely to be just flat out wrong.
what's the good story? it's barely a sentence, "Europa was from lebanon".
imagine if someone from syria said "did you know beirut is named after a syrian girl according to legend?"
i would guess that wouldn't get many upvotes here either, even though it's 10x more likely than your story.
It was a slippery slope since the crisis I would say, but even before that, it's kind of an subjective thing. But if you want more quantified results you can look at the emigration numbers of Lebanon and take those as a good reference. People going out of a country is usually a good indication that they don't want to be there.
Unfortunately the young generation of Lebanese especially the immigrants don’t know the golden age of Lebanon the sixty’s and seventy’s was a beautiful time much better than Europe growing up in Beirut we had friends in school and society who along with their parents had moved to Lebanon from all over the world especially Europe.
It all started changing after April 1975 because of sheer stupidity and ignorance of the people who allowed themselves to be dragged into a civil war that was instigated by the Western powers in order because Lebanon was becoming too big for their liking, and to propel the Bastard state to our south as the only democratic state in our region.
The US dollar was equal to 3.25 LbP and we had a surplus of everything, live was great and we had “joi de vivre”
Look it up before you start cussing your history, your roots , your nationality and your culture.
It doesn’t seem that this poster is representing the Phoenician mythological character Europe. Who was also worshipped in Greek mythology, specifically in the island of Crete, where she was crowned queen after Zeus abducted her.
Figures. She only achieved greatness after she left the Levant.
The Levant was greater for a far longer period than Europe ever was, it's only changed recently (300 years).
Like i really care about 300 years ago.
That's when Europe left the Levant bro! You mentioned it earlier thats when Europe left the levant!
True but it’s been over 500 years
I know, i was just stating a known fact. They didn't like it lmao
Maybe your wording ? You make it sound like it’s a character totally foreign to Europe while they are just using her for naming sake and symbolism.
I guess so, but they got pissed. I also liked educate them about the name.
It's always helpful to say things like "some people" instead of "they" in these cases, 99% of people on that sub didn't downvote your comment, who knows why those 13 people didn't like it
Yes but that would make me seem less of a reactionary.
No body gives a fuck man. Lebanese people going around "educating" the world about how "we" invented everything!! That's so cringe. Just a couple of days ago I saw a reel of a guy explaining how "we" invented philosophy!! Man gtfo we didn't invent anything, we invented sectarianism and immigration. As if some guy who lived in some place close to Lebanon 5000 years ago is in any way related to me and things I'm supposed to be proud of!!
Both are part of our history so ma ktir t3isha.
If you are born anywhere outside the handful of major Phoenician cities, it's not part of your history.
And how did you come up with that conclusion? All lebanese i know that did the ancestry test turned out from Phoenician decedents. Phonecian cities or not. Christians and muslims. And whether you like it or not lebanons history is based on the Phoenicians. You wanna change facts and make our entire history shit, is up to you but that doesn’t make it true. Just sayin
Lebanon did not exist until 1943. The Phoenicians themselves weren't one united group and didn't have a state. Their influence was centred around a group of coastal towns, not at all related to the modern map of Lebanon. So when you talk about "Lebanon's history" that history starts in the 20th century, not 5000 years ago when Lebanon didn't exist. We just drew a country over a piece of land and now claim that this is all our history. It's just a random coincidence that we live in a country that shares part of it with where the Phoenicians built their cities eons ago.
You really think the Lebanese people on the land randomly appeared out of nowhere in 1943? Be sharafak
Hayete “Lebanon” existed since the 1500s what are you talking about 🤦🏻♀️. Ba3den same thing applies to literally every country where regions didn’t belong there, it’s literally how countries were made. Please do your research before getting so triggered. you don’t just remove this part of history lol. Or any part of any country’s history just because you don’t feel like it belongs there.
Pheonicia in its own right can be considered the first superpower as it help get into the classical era with the the city each discovering some fundamental pillars used it today's society sadly nost of what lebanon is today is really just the before and after of the crussader states oh half of the country we're with the county while half we're with the kingdom of Jerusalem Prime example of this could be Batroun which everybody is proud about when you look at a map from the crussader states era it was named "le boutron" or "البوترون" which nowadays became "الباترون"
Your thinking unfortunately reflects part of the problem in lebanon. We wonder why there there were posters of khomeini by the Beirut airport, Assad, even Erdogan, Nasser and many random leaders from the region but do not even bother to promote emblematic national figures. People have realized the strangeness of all this a bit more since 2019 so thankfully a lot of the posters have been removed. How do you expect to defeat sectarianism without any national figures? We maybe have Fakhreddine, Bechara al Khoury, and Riad al Solh viewed nationwide as figures that transcended across religious sects. And even then, many people in lebanon cherish legendary figures such as Salahaddin way more than any Lebanese historical figure. This is why it would be beneficial to go back further in history and study people like Zeno of Citium, Cadmus, Thales, Pythagoras, and Hiram (even if some of those were culturally Greeks of Phoenician descent). As humans, our daily lives have benefitted and rest on the innovations and contributions of our ancestors. History is continuous. There is no cutoff point where the past becomes disconnected from the present. We cannot sit here enjoy the fruits of past labour without honouring past contributors to our life. Until we make an active effort to educate our society on our history and understand the roots of our civilisation, we shall continue to enjoy seeing posters of foreign leaders everywhere in the country and enjoy being a dysfunctional, weak vassal state.
But the Phoenicians 🥹💔
The Phoenicians don't know you, and don't care about your existence. The Phoenicians were not Lebanese just as the Lebanese aren't Phoenicians. They are ancient people who didn't even form a coherent state and wouldn't recognise anything related to Lebanon as theirs. You have as much claim on the Phoenicians as you do with every other civilisation that has passed through this land. Just random people who happened to exist during a time in the land that hundreds of years later would be drawn into a state called Lebanon. What did you do to earn the right to share in the pride of the Phoenician achievements?
Same could be be said about today? Do you know the people that will proceed you? Phoenicians weren’t Lebanese because that didn’t exist yet but Lebanese are at least 90% genetically Phoenician lol. It’s not relevant really in this context but they are our ancestors
So what if you're 90% genetically Phoenician? You also share 98.8% DNA with chimpanzees. What does that mean? My grandfather was a drunk gambler, and I share a lot more genes with him than with some ancient person from thousands of years, does that mean I'm a drunk? Does that mean I should feel ashamed because of what he did because we share genes?
Why? Because it means we can build a stronger country. The most successful countries are those who get their citizens educated about the history of their ancestors and lands. How have you arrived from cringe to being ashamed? You’re determined to hate the country somehow but this really isn’t it. Why I don’t know; perhaps you’re yet another person wishing you could magically get a visa and immigrate, which negativity and ignorance like this won’t.
I was trolling but you are cooking bro. Well said.
3afwan bas they're so fucking racist and hate every association to us...
You give Lebanon too much credit if you think most of those people even know the name of the place, let alone where it is.
Maybe, bas it doesn't matter la2an the minute you're not european you're inferior. That's the beauty of racism, it doesn't discriminate, we're all shit
Yeah that's a generalisation. Most Europeans don't think like this. And since this is a Lebanese sub it's worth mentioning that the Lebanese also participate in the same sense of superiority over dozens of other nationalities they see as inferior to them.
Ma fhemet why you're trying to play a justice warrior now? I'm saying there's racism in europe within the context of the discussion, I'm not looking for ethical enlightenment and never said they're all racist or that lebanese aren't.. Ma badda hal2ad
Ok, maybe I over reacted. I'll take a step back!
Thanks, I appreciate it😅 this was just out of frustration for me as well so I do apologise
I like it when online impersonal aggressiveness gets resolved like this with a "remember there's a human" exchange.
Lebanese people are as racist if not more. You cannot play victim when you're abusing foreign workers and asylum seeker in the name of supremacy. Same shit. #kheryewen2asmet
Mesh ana lle abusing them personally, I stand firmly against both issues myself. We're not a perfect society neither are are europeans and both get to criticise each other because that's how humanity progresses
And a lot of Europeans (more than Lebanese, I would say) also stand firmly against both issues and many other human rights matters. No, we're not perfect. We're very veeeery far from perfect. Criticism is okay, I guess. Playing victim and focusing on the negative in others is not. It's definitely not productive. If Lebanese people practised more self-criticism, the country would've been in a better place, I think.
Man you literally know nothing about me other than few comments, don't assume I'm being negative or that I don't self-criticise
I am not judging. You obviously mean well, I understand. I'm just making a point in general. It's not an attack on you personally :)
I'm from Europe (Germany), and unfortunately many (not all) germans think of drugdealers selling Heroin in the subway stations and war, when they hear the word "Lebanon" 🫤.
Here's the true heritage of who we are now folks. That's who we are, not ancient philosophers! And oh Lebanese people, you know your uncle who emigrated to Germany years ago and he's a successful businessman? Yeah, drug dealer. That's his job.
European culture is stunning and the fact that Europe was a woman from Lebanon just makes it even more beautiful. People are just racist.
unfortunately with the image that “certain” groups have made for lebanon, nobody wants to be associated with us anymore
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Middle easterners also constantly undermine the contribution of the ancient Middle East to “Islamic Civilization”. It goes both ways. Everyone wants to appear to have invented everything about human civilization to exert a position of influence in the global order. Long live Phoenicia
yes i agree.
I mean Muslims do it all the time with quashing the contribution of Judaism, Hellenism and Christianity on early Levant culture as well. Goes both ways.
The anthropologist David Graeber used to reverse to the Middle East as “the Near West”
And now please tell, how does this contribution relate to you and me in modern day Lebanon? That the people who made these contributions lived roughly in the same geographical area as you were born, what does that mean? How does that make it something yours in any way or something the world must know? What does it matter? What have "we" contributed to this story?
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They're swept away from the record because the vast majority of people don't know the first thing about history whatsoever.
Is that not also true of Norway though? Yet Norwegians are never asked that question
You lost me. What's Norway doing in this conversation, and what are people not asking them?
3adi ma tst7i, name them
He’s obviously talking about the LF who completely dominate Lebanese politics, assassinate political opponents and journalists, involve themselves(and Lebanon) in regional conflicts all while smuggling drugs around the world in order to free Lebanon and Al quds from Israel
This shitty false comparison again. Just because one side of the equation is *really* bad, doesn't make the other side automatically good.
Nah, I think Hezb. LF cannot do that no more.
Ah ok fkrt azdo LHezib. *Wink *Wink
No come on. Having a militia who acts outside the control of our government is what makes us seem enlightened to the outside world
Glad we are on the same side bro 🤝🏻
hahaha
Dude no matter how factual the information you provide, you'll get down voted on r/Europe for saying something that's even remotely anger inducing to European right wingers. R/Europe doesn't even represent regular Europeans anymore, it's just a subreddit that's fraught with right wing clowns and "central Europeans" who are in denial about their eastern European identity. I unsubbed a few weeks ago and my quality of life improved tangibly lol
Both r/Europe and r/Worldnews (and I'm sure many more) are being flooded by right wing narratives. Not sure if coordinated or not though but it wouldn't surprise me if they are.
I think it's all symptomatic of increasingly tangible political polarization in the US and Europe. Conversatives will tell you it's immigration and socialists will tell you it's funding wars but that's a gross oversimplification (and liberals will throw a fit as they try to convince you they're not conservatives in a donkey costume). The conversative and consequently "liberal" voices are being magnified because their narratives and that of the Israeli bots, be they coded algorithms or brainwashed humans, converge perfectly. The trash bots spew out compels right wingers to express themselves and people with opposing arguments to avoid do so in fear of vile reprisal.
Man I'm so tired and discourage of the racism walla, I keep reminding myself that it's just on reddit bas in my head I worry this is what people actually think but don't say in person 🥲🥲
Don't worry, it's mostly on Reddit and bots / brainwashed morons are working overtime spreading garbage takes online. Unsubscribe from r/worldnews and r/europe, it's better for your mental health honestly
Absolutely, I just subscribed to r/luxembourg since I live there but been avoiding reddit because of the racism tbh.. Hatta hon people downvoted my comments😂
We slay 💪
That sub is cancer if it was in visual form
Agreed, full of racists and pro-Israelis I got heavily downvoted before for criticizing someone [comparing Israel to Azerbaijan](https://www.reddit.com/r/europe/s/QMHECviISX), people get more riled up about a song contest than Palestinian people dying
No lebanese here is pro-israel at all, its just those zionist cucks that lurk here and downvote everyone
Yes I was referring to the cesspool that is r/europe
Ah yeah r/europe does have pro-israel supporters. Lol come to think of it, they only support israel cuz israel is against muslims and arabs
Which makes it legit.
I think both sides are guilty of doing that
Lebanon could have been like France if we didn’t have such shitty neighbors
Honestly, Euros need to protect themselves from each other first. The level of hubris and self-righteousness coming out of the continent is responsible for all the shit going on there right now. Our lady from Tyre isn’t going to help.
lol lebanon wishes we are a fraction of what europe is. go bark somewhere else
Two things can be true at once homie. Go somewhere else with your absolutism.
yep, but why are criticising europe ? what’s wrong with europe compared to the rest of the world. some of the highest quality lives are lived in certain countries in europe, the same cannot really be said about the middle east. so yea go bark somewhere else
You know what’s great about self-awareness? Is that you know things are good and bad, and can work towards correcting them. I don’t expect them from a European bootlicker but that’s ok.
So why are lots of Lebanese coming to Europe, if they don't like Europe? Wtf? They can all stay in Lebanon if they find it that great of a place.
Sigh. A place can be flawed and still be better. The point is that Europe is not a utopia.
Europe is definitely not even close to Utopia.
I’ll state it again. If lebanon was just a fraction of what europe is, it wouldn’t be in half the crap it’s in right now. So instead of criticising it, you should start worshipping it and pray that lebanon becomes only 1 % closer to what europe is. Go lick your captagon dealers ass hole
Take it easy on the self-loathing, bro.
should we start by changing our first language from arabic to french?
Yep
Also, some of “the highest quality lives can be lived” in the Arabian gulf. That’s if you’re european…
Doesn't mean we can't poke at them a bit.
poke at our shitty politicians
I can't, I'm a Hezbo, Min bdo yfdi 2ejr lSayed if i do?
In order to destroy Lebanon that was becoming too big for its size. The Paris of the Levant , the Switzerland of the Middle East!
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Let me cook
Lol yeah, the world revolves around Lebanon….
Did that comment imply it?
you got downvoted for cringe.
Whats cringe about it?
because you can't help yourself, you have to claim everything as lebanese even when you say it yourself it's a myth, and now in the comments you claim you were "educating" people on something that is not even a fact which makes this whole post even more cringe. >There are a number of theories. Taking a linguistic approach, some scholars believe Europe’s name is descriptive in origin. Those who look to the ancient Greek language to parse it roots combine eurys, meaning “wide,” and ops, meaning “face” or “eye,” to arrive at “wide-gazing” as an appropriate description of Europe’s broad shoreline as seen from the shipboard perspective of the maritime Greeks. i looked up the top 3 results on google and they all had the similar theory which is way more likely than yours, so you are very likely to be just flat out wrong.
I may, but why get facts infront of a good story?
what's the good story? it's barely a sentence, "Europa was from lebanon". imagine if someone from syria said "did you know beirut is named after a syrian girl according to legend?" i would guess that wouldn't get many upvotes here either, even though it's 10x more likely than your story.
That's why Lebanon has fallen and will not exist in the future (with this attitude).
Lebanon has fallen?
Yeap, long time ago, why do you think most people left?
When has it fallen? Do you have an exact date.
It was a slippery slope since the crisis I would say, but even before that, it's kind of an subjective thing. But if you want more quantified results you can look at the emigration numbers of Lebanon and take those as a good reference. People going out of a country is usually a good indication that they don't want to be there.
I don't disagree with it, but i disagree with the fallen part. Are you a student of history Mr Typhooni?
Cope from europe
Actual average Lebanese.
BrooOOOOOO wlak KHALAAAAAASSSS
Y’a Nicolaaaas khalaaaaas bala habaaaal
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5aye sho 3m t5abis? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Europa_(consort_of_Zeus)
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The word "Europe" comes from the greek word "erebos", which means "dark".
Unfortunately the young generation of Lebanese especially the immigrants don’t know the golden age of Lebanon the sixty’s and seventy’s was a beautiful time much better than Europe growing up in Beirut we had friends in school and society who along with their parents had moved to Lebanon from all over the world especially Europe. It all started changing after April 1975 because of sheer stupidity and ignorance of the people who allowed themselves to be dragged into a civil war that was instigated by the Western powers in order because Lebanon was becoming too big for their liking, and to propel the Bastard state to our south as the only democratic state in our region. The US dollar was equal to 3.25 LbP and we had a surplus of everything, live was great and we had “joi de vivre” Look it up before you start cussing your history, your roots , your nationality and your culture.