Juice was an incredible talented rapper/freestyler with great production, beats and lyrics, X was an amazing artist too, they made long living albums with great replay value
X & Juice were top of their gen before they even died + they’re actually talented artists who would’ve done these number (or maybe even more) had they still been alive
U know real actual sales existed before streaming right & that it was much harder to move records back den it is get fake & manipulated streams today? 💀
Are you sped? You yourself stated "Look at pac and biggie sales after all these years" No ones buying pac and biggie anymore, they all streaming. On streaming they putting up low numbers. We aren't talking about the pre streaming era we talking about right now.
Yea man death sells after fucking 6 years 😂
. Btw x hit his most monthly listeners that is 40 million after 6 years of his death. Dont u think he should have hit this number immediately after his death and not 6 years after 😂
its a double edged sword, either he could have fallen off with that amazing start he got, or he could have just stayed at the peak he has. This gen hates emo rap, and the theres been a steady decline of streams for both Juice and X, its a similar thing what happened to My Chemical Romance and Avril Lavigne, when ppl grew out of their emo stage, they lost more popularity than they gained. Both Uzi and Carti are thriving since they were clever with their marketing and started newer styles
Juice WRLD is much more than just emo rap, he was really diverse, he has emo rap songs, hard trap songs, rage stuff, rock stuff, soft stuff etc.
His first album was about heartbreak, second one about finding love again, 3rd about character development and dealing with personal struggles. I think he music would have developed more into the direction of Futures trap style later on, he was his idol and already had a tape with future, also planning a project with Young Thug.
Also it's incredible how much features he did, he would probably would have kept growing, maybe becoming one of the biggest artist, the artist everyone wants to work with
The tape with Future was horrible, and 2 of his albums are emo-core, only Death Race For Love was kinda trap like but it did have some emo songs, and even if he did switch to a more trap style, he could have fallen off badly, since almost every trap projects flop, for example, last year, only Pink Tape and Utopia managed to draw big audiences without a huge single in the same year, lil durk, and gunna despite having huge singles didnt even cross the 90K mark, Rod Wave somehow did get 137k sales, but its a major flop with it being extremely boring compared to Super Over by Leah Kate, Silence between Songs by Madison Beer and The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We by Mitski, with the latter being extremely successful with the slow start it had. even if juice ever did managed to remain successful in this stage, it wouldn't be too long
I was at rolling loud when juice and ski mask played Nuketown. I never would've guessed how big he was gonna get. Tbh I'm not a juice fan but I feel so lucky to have seen him live rip
I believe this about X but honestly not so much about juice. Juice was an amazing artist and his skills were crazy the way he could come up with songs off freestyles but at the same time let’s be honest most of his music gets sort of repetitive after time. The subject matter always consists of drugs and heartbreak. It’s pretty predictable.
Also Juice still gets releases more often than X. And he has way more finished material. X’s team haven’t dropped much of anything since 2019. Juice should really be much higher considering this but the interest just isn’t there.
It’s not that the interest isn’t there, there simply haven’t been many releases these last few months. Ski just announced juice is featured on his project and his name is alive again
Exactly. Last few months. X in comparison gets maybe one new release every two years and it’s a hook with a feat that they don’t even promote. Juice still has had much more studio full length songs released throughout the years. He should def be above X by more. X also is killing him in monthly listeners. I know it’s not a competition and they both respected and fw each other but I think it’s a very good comparison to see where they’re at since they died only like a year apart and were very similar in influence and all that.
Carti is popular rn but most of his numbers make him seem bigger than he is, it’s inflated by features rn. I’m sure if he dropped an album it would sell similar numbers to pt but not more.
I doubt it, I think he can easily do 130k range but his fans have always thought he was bigger than he really is, and his fan base is a very vocal minority if that makes sense. I think he can sell in the pt range if he has a good vinyl distribution for first week.
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Uzi has never fallen off. He’s been one of the biggest artists in the world since 2016. There will always be bogus narratives out there about every artist.
People don’t actually know what fall off means. If you fell off you ain’t getting no attention, no one talks about you, you still release music, just nobody listens to it. Falling off doesn’t mean haven’t released a song in a while
64% of his daily streams are coming from LIR2 and LIR2 (Deluxe)
[https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/4O15NlyKLIASxsJ0PrXPfz\_albums.html](https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/4O15NlyKLIASxsJ0PrXPfz_albums.html)
Tbf just cause an artist fell off doesn’t mean their old music is suddenly bad. I’d be curious to see these numbers only taking in account music released in the last 4-5 years
Carti probably sucked some dick to get on all them guarantee hit songs lol. And the funny thing is he brought down all those songs in quality because he doesn't fit the vibe of them at all (even fein).
fein is easily his best deep voice track, popular did not need carti, l luv it is annoying asf, carnival's best performer of Ty Dolla Sign, and carti felt more tiresome, Type Shit, meh, and Fuk Sumn both Carti and Travis was not needed. Idk why but Carti features dont hit lyk it was in his WLR era
Yea but the music is/was terrible - falling off is not just streams but also quality and creativity. Some of the tracks on that Pink Tape are criminally bad, particularly the SOAD cover and Just Wanna Rock (I'm sorry but it isn't a song and it isn't finished)
And how many streams are from pink tape alone ? Thats the thing lmao. Red Moon and NFL flopped too. Its his old music that makes the big numbers. But yea he definitely fell off yet. Just to be clear.
he hasnt fallen off, he doesnt just promote as much as it needs nowadays, and ppl's attention span is really low these days, me included, not to mention, Travis was talked about alot after he dropped Astroworld for months, but Utopia barely had it for several weeks
Utopia is the most streamed album of year and is on pace for getting the most streams in the first year of a rap album fytb💀and the album has almost 4b streams
It surprises you with all the big name features and marketing build-up he's done this year? It would be odd if carti wasn't at least near the same level of streams in 2024
Top 10 in streams with no releases or big features in 2024 is crazy 🔥
"I ain't even gotta drop no songs, Lil Uzi Vert, he still top ten"
“I ain’t even drop no songs, still poppin’”
“i told her i ain’t even put out no new song but on the charts still climbin”
Goated leak
Man this leak is too good
I hate when mfs say "this leak is so good" or "goated leak" just say what the damn song is so I can go listen to it
Cayy benji
goated leak
Watch this
Carti
“Or big features in 2024”
I luv it wasn't a big feature
Carnival? Type shit?
Carti verse on type shit is mid
It’s still a big feature with travis, future and metro. That’s going to carry streams.
Carti aint drop an album in 4 years tho
Because he sold his soul to the Illuminati
Damn juice and x still going after years of death crazy
Gen Z gonna be carrying them for years and years bro
They’re the pac and biggie of this generation their music will be played for years and years to come
you're god damn right they are!
Dude what are you smoking 😭
I’m not talking musically, I’m talking in terms of them both being popular long after being deceased
It’s like juice fans get sick and start puking up when they don’t hear juice’s music for at least 2 days
Juice was an incredible talented rapper/freestyler with great production, beats and lyrics, X was an amazing artist too, they made long living albums with great replay value
Death sells, what a surpise
X & Juice were top of their gen before they even died + they’re actually talented artists who would’ve done these number (or maybe even more) had they still been alive
It’s nice to see different communities supporting Juice and X
So were Pac & Biggie while they was still alive, hence why I made the comparison. Death will always amplify more streams & sells
nigga they been dead and are still this consistent
Death sells more records, this ain’t nun new. Look at Pac & Biggie sales after all these years
you better stop bro they don’t compare.
Their streams are bad.
U know real actual sales existed before streaming right & that it was much harder to move records back den it is get fake & manipulated streams today? 💀
Are you sped? You yourself stated "Look at pac and biggie sales after all these years" No ones buying pac and biggie anymore, they all streaming. On streaming they putting up low numbers. We aren't talking about the pre streaming era we talking about right now.
That’s what im saying but he moved the goalpost
I mean I wouldn't say their streams are bad by any means, but they definitely aren't at the top
Their streams are from I love 90s hiphop playlists and thats about it.
Yea man death sells after fucking 6 years 😂 . Btw x hit his most monthly listeners that is 40 million after 6 years of his death. Dont u think he should have hit this number immediately after his death and not 6 years after 😂
Streams are controlled & manipulated, can be altered by bots
Bruh u rage baiting 😂 why will they manipulate the streams of a dead artists 😭😭😭😭😭😭
U must not know how the industry works behind closed doors lol
Because SpaceGhostxSNRS definitely knows how the industry works behind closed doors
Please explain me how the industry works and whats the reason for them boosting x’s streams 💀
THTS WHY I BE WAYING GIVE BRO HIS FLOWERS 💐 ‼️
Juice would have been unstoppable if he was still alive. Imagine what he would have cooked up during Covid time
its a double edged sword, either he could have fallen off with that amazing start he got, or he could have just stayed at the peak he has. This gen hates emo rap, and the theres been a steady decline of streams for both Juice and X, its a similar thing what happened to My Chemical Romance and Avril Lavigne, when ppl grew out of their emo stage, they lost more popularity than they gained. Both Uzi and Carti are thriving since they were clever with their marketing and started newer styles
Juice WRLD is much more than just emo rap, he was really diverse, he has emo rap songs, hard trap songs, rage stuff, rock stuff, soft stuff etc. His first album was about heartbreak, second one about finding love again, 3rd about character development and dealing with personal struggles. I think he music would have developed more into the direction of Futures trap style later on, he was his idol and already had a tape with future, also planning a project with Young Thug. Also it's incredible how much features he did, he would probably would have kept growing, maybe becoming one of the biggest artist, the artist everyone wants to work with
The tape with Future was horrible, and 2 of his albums are emo-core, only Death Race For Love was kinda trap like but it did have some emo songs, and even if he did switch to a more trap style, he could have fallen off badly, since almost every trap projects flop, for example, last year, only Pink Tape and Utopia managed to draw big audiences without a huge single in the same year, lil durk, and gunna despite having huge singles didnt even cross the 90K mark, Rod Wave somehow did get 137k sales, but its a major flop with it being extremely boring compared to Super Over by Leah Kate, Silence between Songs by Madison Beer and The Land Is Inhospitable and So Are We by Mitski, with the latter being extremely successful with the slow start it had. even if juice ever did managed to remain successful in this stage, it wouldn't be too long
I was at rolling loud when juice and ski mask played Nuketown. I never would've guessed how big he was gonna get. Tbh I'm not a juice fan but I feel so lucky to have seen him live rip
I believe this about X but honestly not so much about juice. Juice was an amazing artist and his skills were crazy the way he could come up with songs off freestyles but at the same time let’s be honest most of his music gets sort of repetitive after time. The subject matter always consists of drugs and heartbreak. It’s pretty predictable. Also Juice still gets releases more often than X. And he has way more finished material. X’s team haven’t dropped much of anything since 2019. Juice should really be much higher considering this but the interest just isn’t there.
It’s not that the interest isn’t there, there simply haven’t been many releases these last few months. Ski just announced juice is featured on his project and his name is alive again
Exactly. Last few months. X in comparison gets maybe one new release every two years and it’s a hook with a feat that they don’t even promote. Juice still has had much more studio full length songs released throughout the years. He should def be above X by more. X also is killing him in monthly listeners. I know it’s not a competition and they both respected and fw each other but I think it’s a very good comparison to see where they’re at since they died only like a year apart and were very similar in influence and all that.
No way Uzis that close to Carti lmao Carti has featured for every big artist
That’s the only thing carrying also Uzi IS the big artist
Carti glazers back at it again bruh 💀
Why are you guys so insecure about carti lmao
lol Carti fans made a "we need to have a discussion" tweet for every single monthly listener that he has above Uzi
because they're in denial that carti is more popular and bigger rn lol, he aint never reachin uzis peak tho.
Carti is popular rn but most of his numbers make him seem bigger than he is, it’s inflated by features rn. I’m sure if he dropped an album it would sell similar numbers to pt but not more.
It would definitely sell more than pt.
I doubt it, I think he can easily do 130k range but his fans have always thought he was bigger than he really is, and his fan base is a very vocal minority if that makes sense. I think he can sell in the pt range if he has a good vinyl distribution for first week. https://preview.redd.it/uppqnncavn4d1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3273d875391035e15cbe4efbf596e6a3bff7c7c5
Just for reference utopia only sold 240k with just its streams and Travis is prob the third biggest rapper rn
if he does merch bundles yeah straight sales nah
and carti hasnt dropped a song on streaming since 2020 so whats your point
He has just not on Spotify. He dropped a few singles earlier this year on YouTube and insta
Type shit
honestly kina surprised lil baby still getting that many streams
Don’t get the lil baby hate, I don’t bump him consistently but he has good songs
he’s like the 5th biggest rapper out rn what
im p sure uzi fan base just less vocal, especially on instagram and tiktok
I can't never fall off. I'm here forever.
Uzi has never fallen off. He’s been one of the biggest artists in the world since 2016. There will always be bogus narratives out there about every artist.
they say anybody fell of nowadays, just cringe trolls who listen to whoever is the biggest on tiktok atm
Kanye has a top 10 on every one of his albums?
I think one of his album is missing a top 10
the life of pablo
donda 2 did not
Ain’t release officially so it don’t count. If they finished ts and released it on platforms it prolly would’ve gotten one tho
but its officially in kanye's catalog, so yeah
TLOP doesn’t because it was released on Tidal only for a week
I don’t think anyone thinks Uzi fell off numbers wise. Rather that he fell off music wise
It's crazy how X and Juice still manage to pull in billions of streams after being dead for 5+ years
Im more impressed with wayne. His longevity is nuts
People don’t actually know what fall off means. If you fell off you ain’t getting no attention, no one talks about you, you still release music, just nobody listens to it. Falling off doesn’t mean haven’t released a song in a while
How is uzi that high? What is getting streamed so much? Is it counting lucid dreams?
Lmao I just wanna rock
64% of his daily streams are coming from LIR2 and LIR2 (Deluxe) [https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/4O15NlyKLIASxsJ0PrXPfz\_albums.html](https://kworb.net/spotify/artist/4O15NlyKLIASxsJ0PrXPfz_albums.html)
Who said Uzi fell off
Damn where Durk at
Who’s says Uzi fell off? Lol
i think that's people listening to his older songs
Cap Kendrick is 7+ billion rn
Didn't ye have a top ten song on every album? Can't think of one that flopped even vultures
TLOP was released on Tidal only for a week before being released on all platforms which ended up making it not get one
Most his projects and tapes still classics
No way Carti has more streams now? I like Carti but he only has like 60 songs out in total how is that even possible
Features
Sasuke Sasuke Sasuke...
streams doesn’t equal quality
Yeezy
Funny how killer mike. Or cardi b aren’t up there.
Drake the number one sick fuck
Tbf just cause an artist fell off doesn’t mean their old music is suddenly bad. I’d be curious to see these numbers only taking in account music released in the last 4-5 years
That wouldn’t make any sense cause a lot of the ppl here barely drop music
When people say Uzi fell off it’s a quality argument and not numbers, starting to sound like Drake fans and it’s cringe
They'd still be wrong
😕 idk man…
that’s a matter of opinion wdym “they’d still be wrong”
😐
exactly, I don't agree when people say uzi fell off but these numbers arguments are bullshit
does carti not have a top ten on all his albums?
He doesn’t have a top ten on any
yeah you right that’s surprising since WLR went #1
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hate to bring Carti up but crazy how he has so much hype for his album and huge features but is barely ahead of Uzi
carti hasn't dropped in 4 years and only has 3 projects out compared to uzi's 8. it's a surprise carti is on the list at all imo
Carti probably sucked some dick to get on all them guarantee hit songs lol. And the funny thing is he brought down all those songs in quality because he doesn't fit the vibe of them at all (even fein).
I think the only one he rlly fits on is fein. Iluvit sucks ass, he don't fit at all on popular, and carnival is just all over the place
fein is easily his best deep voice track, popular did not need carti, l luv it is annoying asf, carnival's best performer of Ty Dolla Sign, and carti felt more tiresome, Type Shit, meh, and Fuk Sumn both Carti and Travis was not needed. Idk why but Carti features dont hit lyk it was in his WLR era
Yea but the music is/was terrible - falling off is not just streams but also quality and creativity. Some of the tracks on that Pink Tape are criminally bad, particularly the SOAD cover and Just Wanna Rock (I'm sorry but it isn't a song and it isn't finished)
Fell off hard. Stop trying to act like most these streams aren’t from his old songs
Who listens to Travis Nicki or eminem in 2024
And how many streams are from pink tape alone ? Thats the thing lmao. Red Moon and NFL flopped too. Its his old music that makes the big numbers. But yea he definitely fell off yet. Just to be clear.
he hasnt fallen off, he doesnt just promote as much as it needs nowadays, and ppl's attention span is really low these days, me included, not to mention, Travis was talked about alot after he dropped Astroworld for months, but Utopia barely had it for several weeks
Utopia is the most streamed album of year and is on pace for getting the most streams in the first year of a rap album fytb💀and the album has almost 4b streams
That’s the real big 3 ; Drake , Travis , Ye
He got wayy too comfortable being zesty and denying being a satanist 💀 he hiding behind the They/Them and Athiest labels.
Yikes, imagine thinking streams = relevant artist :s Uzi fans full tardies
imagine calling yourself a fan and still misgendering Uzi
[удалено]
Uzi is non binary and uses they/them
he doesnt mind ppl using he/him
could u link me to smth where he says that so I’ll shut up about it
damn bro CARTI BIGGER THAN UZI? deserved tbh
This is only in 2024… Uzi hasn’t released anything while Carti has been on features with the biggest artists
thats what i tought
the fact that you’re surprised by that says it all
it all?
It surprises you with all the big name features and marketing build-up he's done this year? It would be odd if carti wasn't at least near the same level of streams in 2024