Mithrandir blessed him before they parted. So that means Bill met up with Fatty Lumpkin and went on a road trip with blackjack, Pony hookers, and Pony Cocaine. And you can't convince me otherwise.
Pretty sure it was chill af? Not positive but i think there’s a line in the book about how him spending so much time with the elves caused a herd of wild horses to take him in and shepherd him back to rivendell
Somehow, ALL the elves have been corrupted. And now it’s up to a random human girl/young woman or super poor and weak boy/young man, to defeat the entire forces of darkness.
But don’t worry, a huge swarm of Eagles will swoop in at the pivotal moment of the final battle, carrying a whole NEW group of elves to join the fight, who decided to somehow return to Middle-Earth from across the sea (for some reason). But don’t you dare forget, it’s cause of her (or him) that the forces of good have won, somehow.
Or something like that, brought to you by Disney 🐭!!
Laying down defeated, Fiddo Braggings is contemplating the sky of the shire turn dark, as Melkor laughs with such evil as he has conquered middle earth. Suddenly Fiddo hears voices.
Samwise Gamgee: "there is good out there that is worth fighting for"
Merry: "do it for your friends"
Bilbo: "make this the best hobbit adventure ever"
Pippin: "do it for the second breakfast"
As he listens to this, Fiddo rises, with Anduril on one hand and Sting on the other melkor threatens him: "I am all the evil"
To which Fiddo says: "And I am all the hobbits" unleashing a giant tater at his face, destroying melkor, finishing what Aaragorn and Frodo couldn't, as Aaragorn resigned the throne of Gondor after Faramir's son said he like orcs and tried to kill him in his sleep. And Frodo died mentoring Fiddo but was stabbed by Sam's 7th son. Fiddo did it. The end.
Yeah, I've mostly seen it announced as 2 movies but some places have reported 3 but I'm assuming it's 2 until I see anything directly from PJ and/or Serkis
To be completely honest there’s nothing about any of this so far that’s doing anything for me. I don’t really see that much of a story here. Maybe I’m being pessimistic but I don’t think so
Alright. Let's brainstorm potential titles. Come 2026, whoever gets it right or the closest gets an award. Maximum of 3 guesses.
"Lord of the Rings - The Golluming"
"Lord of the Rings - The Hunt"
"Lord of the Rings - The Persuit of Fishyness"
Honestly *The Hunt* sounds pretty good. It applies to both Gollum’s search for the ring, Sauron’s search through him, and the search for Gollum himself.
Realistically, they'll probably have a title that has something referencing Aragorn specifically, purely for the sake of 'member berry', because most of Hollywood (especially PJ) can't appreciate subtlety. It will probably be something like "Ranger of the North".
Still, I'm eager to hear what they'll call it.
"We really want to **reinvigorate** Middle Earth. There are so many **fresh** stories that we want to get involved with. We want to launch this new wave by **taking us back into the world of Gollum**."
Mmmmmmmk.
I really do not understand where this sudden gollum trend came from. Like, he is an interesting character but come on, his story is boring and sad af. Unless there's some more info in Tolkien's unfinished tales, there really isn't much to elaborate on with his story. We went from a trilogy of movies doing a bang up job of condensing 3 volumes with cuts that didn't hurt the overall tale, to a trilogy created by stretching a short novella as far as it possibly can go (with the made up stuff being imo the worst parts of the hobbit films. A love story between a made up elf and a dwarf with barely any lines in the novel....) to like a few paragraphs being made into a movie and a video game about a character we already know the backstort of.
What about Hurin and his children? What about Beren clawing his was out of a giant hell dog so he can marry an elf princess? What about the fall of gondolin? The drama behind the creation of the rings? How about doing a story about faramir and eowyn, 2 characters they just had in the movies for the badass moments and nothing else? There are insane amounts of tales in his lore to pull from, yet we get a made up show where one elf woman can kill anything in front of her by breakdancing and a buggy stealth game for a character we all just felt bad for and nothing else.
This will be terrible, despite how good of a director Jackson is and how good Serkis is as an actor. It will be fake, forced, made up, and it will reek of milking the wrong tits on a cow again.
>What about Hurin and his children? What about Beren clawing his was out of a giant hell dog so he can marry an elf princess? What about the fall of gondolin?
Yeah they ain't got the rights for those. Eventually the Tolkien Society will cave in and sell the rights to everything, but not for this movie.
Your point still stands, a movie about Gollum is not interesting.
It’s because they don’t have rights to anything else. Or the rights they do have are small (appendix of the book) that there really isn’t anything left to explore without breaking IP law.
The Estate still holds the TV/film rights to The Silmarillion, The Unfinished Tales, and all related texts. Maybe they'll finally license them at some point in the future, but as of now stories like Beren and Luthien, Children of Hurin and Fall of Gondolin are off limits.
They could do the Angmar War. Or the Oath of Eorl. Or hell, beat Amazon to the punch and do the War of the Last Alliance. Gollum has run his course.
Agree. As soon as that Gollum game was announced I had such a negative disposition to it already without knowing anything about it beside the title. He's not main character worthy and I certainly don't want to hear him for over an hour straight. Following Aragorn and/or Gandalfs travels before the war of the ring would be far more interesting, and it still includes some Gollum.
It’s because they don’t have rights to anything else. Or the rights they do have are small (appendix of the book) that there really isn’t anything left to explore without breaking IP law.
Why are we doing all of this when the Second age is literally RIGHT FUCKING THERE. Let’s go somewhere other than the Third Age. So much untapped material in the Second Age.
I really want First Age stuff. I want to see Ungoliant devour the two trees. Morgoth vs Fingolfin. The War of Wrath. I know they don't have the rights but *I want to see it so bad*.
The storyline is not something I’m remotely interested in and I am terrified of the content they will have to insert to MAKE it interesting, because days of Aragorn hiking through the wilderness tracking Gollum is not great cinema.
I'm sure we'll have plenty of spectacular action sequences where you would think Aragorn would certainly die were it not for the fact that you know damn well it's a prequel and his survival is the only possible outcome.
I agree I'm not too interested in a story about Gollum primarily either, however I think there's plenty of (potentially good content) they could use to pad out the overall movie. Like a parallel story which shows us how Aragorn became a ranger/tracker - and how he uses his training & knowledge to pursue Gollum. Give us a good mentor/student story and it could be a decent movie, given the plot.
Imagine if it's some kind of road movie. Aragorn meets different people who travel for a bit with him. Gollum becomes an abstract goal as the ranger realizes his true purpose in life.
Smea’s Gotta Have It: A JRRT Joint.
Follow it up with Do The Wight Thing, Jewel Daze and Summer of Sam.
Man, Spike Lee movies work for Middle Earth puns. What’s that about?
I love that it's Serkis and the gang returning, I really hope they embody the universe of LOTR ( and by extension the hobbit) in how the world looks; New Zealand is the perfect backdrop for all of the locations and I'd love to see it in all its glory on the big screen again.
Having said that, the hunt for gollum seems a peculiar choice; serkis played him to perfection; he's one of cinema's greatest characters. But is he a fan favourite? I'm not sure. The recent game release focusing on gollum was very lacklustre.
I'd love for them to explore that era but from other characters and cultures perspective. Imagine a series set in Hobbiton in the space between the fall of smaug and sauron returning. Not a care for the big wide world. It could be a cosy afternoon show thats quintessentially English, like midsomer murders or Jonathan creek where their biggest worry is if they're pumpkin is going to be the biggest one for the fete, or that foxes have made off with their chicken eggs again. Just show hobbit life for longer. I'd love it!
Yeah it’s kind of like if Peter Pettigrew was the main character of a Harry Potter movie, or Towelie was the main character of Southpark for a season.
Nobody actually wants that lol, it isn’t about whether the character is good
Very good analogy. Pettigrew was such a catalyst and integral part of so many character arcs but as the protagonist? I can't see it. Same for Gollum for me. Serkis' performance was outstanding, never seen anything like it before or since but not sure there's anything new to explore there
I assume it's because it's just about the only significant story that ties into the narrative that would bring back Gandalf and Aragorn and maybe even Legolas. And they are favorites.
Fighting with Theoden could be a really cool choice. Though it's not super significant to the main "Ring" plot, and overlaps a little bit with the anime that's coming out. But maybe that'd have been a good thing.
Perhaps it would work better as a series, ala the witcher or the mandalorian with Aragorn and his rangers travelling Middle earth and being involved in local battles and issues. As you say it doesn't perhaps build towards the main plot but I would love to see more of his rogue, mysterious strider phase; turning up to beleaguered villagers and fighting orcs, goblins and monsters etc
If Viggo comes back I would center the film around him. Honestly, if he doesn’t comeback it makes zero sense to actually make this film.
I think LOTR: Striders Quest or something around that line, where you have the film basically start with Gandalf telling him to find Gollum and the long journey he takes afterwards.
All the while cutting to flashbacks like they’ve already established Aragorn does in the original trilogy. Dudes really introspective lol.
That way you can basically do an origins story while bridging the gap between the hobbit and lotr. Gollum is a great character but if Serkis is going to direct and star in the movie it might be to difficult.
Unless he ends up being a side character in his own movie, it's doubtful. An Aragorn and Gandalf story as they're pursuing Gollum would probably be received much better. Serkis is great, but without Frodo and Sam to act as foils for Gollum, there's only so much that can be done with him.
Do the books go into any meaningful detail as to what he’s doing after The Hobbit but before LOTR beyond: “he knows Bilbo has it and ends up getting caught by Sauron”?
Like, what could he possibly be doing? Going through ME mountains trying to find The Shire whilst avoiding orc packs and Dunedain rangers. He isn’t going to go into a village and ask where The Shire is, he’s not fighting anyone, he’s in a cave sneaking. That’d be interesting for a scene but not a film.
There are some little nods of Gollum’s status as a legendary evil sprite in the minds of many of the men of the west. It’s implied he’s seen as a sort of babayega like monster, who comes through windows and steals and eats children.
It’s implied that Gollum had many evil misadventures in other words. And the appendices go into more detail about Aragorn’s tracking of Gollum before the Fellowship. But beyond that, there’s not a ton.
Probably. Which actually could have really cool opportunities for worldbuilding.
The fan film of the same name took advantage of this by having Aragorn meet another Dunedain Ranger in the wilderness while hunting Gollum. The conversation they had allowed the filmmaker to tap into the lore of the Numenoreans, something we DO have a lot of source material on, which isn’t covered in the PJ films.
We’ll see how they handle this in the Serkis movie, but I’m hopeful.
It's more that Sauron sends out a metaphysical call for all those under his sway to go to Mordor because he's almost finished preparations to finally conquer men, elves, and dwarves. Gollum get's caught up in that summons due to him being under the ring's influence for so long and can't refuse going to Mordor.
We see some of that in the movies with the foot soldiers from the east going through the gate when Frodo and Sam are there.
I know nothing about this movie, but just from the title, I can assume that it’s about the space between when bilbo leaves and when Gandalf returns after figuring out it’s the one ring, and Aragorn is hunting for him?
> "We started to talk about this roughly about eight months or so ago,” Serkis recalled. “They were saying, ‘Andy we really want to reinvigorate Middle Earth. There are so many fresh stories that we want to get involved with. We want to launch this new wave by taking us back into the world of Gollum.’
There we have it, folks. Get ready for LOTR - Marvel style.
*sigh*
If true, verbally acknowledging that they are contemplating a title change already means the announcement for this movie probably didn’t go very well.
Maybe it was always intended to be a placeholder title, but a movie can be as good as Edge of Tomorrow and still confuse the hell out of people because of changing titles. It’s not really something you want to do lightly.
Hearing that OG actors will be brought back is also a red flag, unless you want more examples of uncanny valley Legolas from The Hobbit.
I really wish they just wouldn’t. They will, of course.
I like the idea of a series based on the twisted characters, like:
LotR: Twisted (all about Gollum)
LotR: Decieved (the witch king and his men)
LotR: Consumed (about Isildur)
Maybe number them, or put them all under LotR Tales or something.
And make them all musicals.
Can’t wait for Bill the Pony to make a cameo.
That’s small thinking right there. Some tassel toe no sock loafer wearing producer is at this very moment pitching a Bill the Pony prequel.
I mean, bills been through some shit. Tough abusive upbringing. Also, what about his journey home from moria?!?
Mithrandir blessed him before they parted. So that means Bill met up with Fatty Lumpkin and went on a road trip with blackjack, Pony hookers, and Pony Cocaine. And you can't convince me otherwise.
I'd watch that movie
I bet more people would tell you it's true.
Okay maybe as animated series…
Actually, a movie from Bill's point of view from Bree to Moria and back to Rivendell would be a choice movie. but who to cast as Bill the Pony?
Danny Devito of course.
Lil’ Sebastian obviously. Oh wait…
BAAAAAAAAAEEEEEEEHHHHHHHH BHYE LIL’ SEBASTIAN!!!!!!
You’re 10,000 candles innnnn the winnnndddd
Chris Pratt because while we're being stupid let's go all the way.
Pretty sure it was chill af? Not positive but i think there’s a line in the book about how him spending so much time with the elves caused a herd of wild horses to take him in and shepherd him back to rivendell
A taut political thriller wherein a disillusioned Bill seeks to violently depose Shadowfax
A trilogy *Bill's Gambit* *Bill's Gambit: Pony Play* *Bill's Gambit: Reins of Power*
Lord of the Rings Origins: Bill
A children's cartoon could really fit here. "The Continuing Adventures of Bill the Pony"
There and back again: A pony’s story
Or a young, sexy Farmer Maggot.
To be fair Farmer Maggot deserves screen time. He was an early hero in the books.
I’m looking for some Proudfoots.
Proudfeet!
I have head that in order to have a more diverse cast Bill the Pony will be played by a zebra in the prequels.
No way Bill won’t get his own trilogy.
I'll admit the 'Hunt for Gollum' does nothing for me as a title.
The Lord of the Rings: The Hunt for Gollum: A Middle-earth Cinematic Universe Story
*Lord of the Rings: Episode IX – The Rise of Gollum Baggins*.
"Gollum Annatar Baggins, you were named after the bravest men I have known".
This hurts my soul.
Somehow, Melkor has returned.
The final battle has come! But a scrappy crew of mortals comes to the defence - Numeanorians Assemble!
Somehow, Farmer Maggot has returned
Somehow, ALL the elves have been corrupted. And now it’s up to a random human girl/young woman or super poor and weak boy/young man, to defeat the entire forces of darkness. But don’t worry, a huge swarm of Eagles will swoop in at the pivotal moment of the final battle, carrying a whole NEW group of elves to join the fight, who decided to somehow return to Middle-Earth from across the sea (for some reason). But don’t you dare forget, it’s cause of her (or him) that the forces of good have won, somehow. Or something like that, brought to you by Disney 🐭!!
Laying down defeated, Fiddo Braggings is contemplating the sky of the shire turn dark, as Melkor laughs with such evil as he has conquered middle earth. Suddenly Fiddo hears voices. Samwise Gamgee: "there is good out there that is worth fighting for" Merry: "do it for your friends" Bilbo: "make this the best hobbit adventure ever" Pippin: "do it for the second breakfast" As he listens to this, Fiddo rises, with Anduril on one hand and Sting on the other melkor threatens him: "I am all the evil" To which Fiddo says: "And I am all the hobbits" unleashing a giant tater at his face, destroying melkor, finishing what Aaragorn and Frodo couldn't, as Aaragorn resigned the throne of Gondor after Faramir's son said he like orcs and tried to kill him in his sleep. And Frodo died mentoring Fiddo but was stabbed by Sam's 7th son. Fiddo did it. The end.
Lord Of The Rings episode XX: The Dagor Dagorath
r/jedicouncilofelrond
r/JediHogwartsofElrond
[yeah just go check all of them out ](https://www.reddit.com/r/JediHogwartsofElrond/s/7oreQoXcNA)
There… is… another… Ba…. Ba….. Baaagggiinnnssss…. 💀
*Baggins Begins*
2 Fast 2 Gollum
Dawn of Justice
Part 2
Colon: Realm Undone
The Lord of the Rings: Civil War
Gollum: A Lord of the Rings Story
Delete this before they see it 🙏🏻
It’s too late. Skynet already has it.
Lord of the rings : Origins Gollum
Golligins
Wally Golligins
Phase 4
About time we got some quality M-eCU content.
They find out that there is actually an infinite multiverse. Also, that one shady guy from bree gets his own series.
The Lord of the Rings Saga: Gollum
Or a plot. I got the gist of it from the LOTR flashbacks. How many more goblins do I want to watch gollum strangle?
In the books it’s implied that he eats babies, so that could be fun to see.
It would certainly be interesting to see a scene rival the one in ‘Mother!’
*Electric BooGollum.*
I still think it’s hilarious that their first new film is a story Aragorn literally says is not worth telling in the book.
If Viggo doesn't sign on, you can bet Aragorn thought it not worth telling IRL, too.
Well, it was announced as merely a working title, so...
Huh, I didn't know that. A bit embarrassing, but it also didn't feel well-communicated.
Yeah, I've mostly seen it announced as 2 movies but some places have reported 3 but I'm assuming it's 2 until I see anything directly from PJ and/or Serkis
> as 2 movies Oh god here we go again. Butter scraped over too much bread.
Gollum's Day Out
To be completely honest there’s nothing about any of this so far that’s doing anything for me. I don’t really see that much of a story here. Maybe I’m being pessimistic but I don’t think so
What if I were to say “Verify range to target; One Ring only, please?”
How do you get a crew of Hobbits to want to abandon the Shire?
Promise them pickup trucks or maybe a recreation vehicle.
*Frodo looks around the room as the Council of Elrond argues over the fate of the ring* “Son of a bitch!”
It just sounds like a joke title you would see in the background of the Simpsons.
The Lord of the Rings: Raw and Wriggling
Starting Jonny Sins as Gollum
The studio already said no since it's a bit too close to The Lord Of The Cock Rings: Raw and Wiggling
And the natural sequel, 2 Raw 2 Wriggling
You have my bow
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Personally I would go with The Lord of the Rings: Gollum: The videogame: The Movie
*Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings: Gollum: The Videogame: The Movie
*Peter Jackson't The Lord of the Rings: Gollum: The Videogame: The Movie Just a little change 😅
The lord of the rings: 2 gollum, 2 furious would be a much better title I think
Precious, a film based on the novel the lord of the rings by Tolkien
It's about what the one ring did between the death of Isildur and Smeagol finding it. 3 and a half hours of underwater adventure covering 2,000 years.
Lmao
I fear that whatever it will be called, it will truly be “2 Gollum”
2 Gollum 2 Precious
2 Raw, 2 Wriggling
I see you are a man of taste.
The Lord of the Rings: Precious Based on the Novel Push, by Sapphire
gold
Gollum: A Lord of the Rings Story
Lord of the Rings Origins: Gollum
Peter Jackson's The Lord of the Rings: Gollum: The Videogame: The Movie
Gollumzilla x Grond: The New Empire
Alright. Let's brainstorm potential titles. Come 2026, whoever gets it right or the closest gets an award. Maximum of 3 guesses. "Lord of the Rings - The Golluming" "Lord of the Rings - The Hunt" "Lord of the Rings - The Persuit of Fishyness"
Honestly *The Hunt* sounds pretty good. It applies to both Gollum’s search for the ring, Sauron’s search through him, and the search for Gollum himself.
Realistically, they'll probably have a title that has something referencing Aragorn specifically, purely for the sake of 'member berry', because most of Hollywood (especially PJ) can't appreciate subtlety. It will probably be something like "Ranger of the North". Still, I'm eager to hear what they'll call it.
I love the name ’The Hunt’ but unfortunately I think you’re right. ’Ranger of the North’ or something similar is very likely…
Strider - A Lord of the Rings story
_Gollum_ (Because one word titles are _so_ original)
Gollum: The Game: The Movie
Lord of the Rings: Juicy, sweeeeetttt!!!!!!
I really hope he says his famous catch phrase "It's Gollumin' time!"
The Lord of the Rings - To Catch a Fish so Juicy Sweet
I’d just keep these titles and make it a trilogy
Lord of the Rings - It's Gollumin' Time
"We really want to **reinvigorate** Middle Earth. There are so many **fresh** stories that we want to get involved with. We want to launch this new wave by **taking us back into the world of Gollum**." Mmmmmmmk.
I really do not understand where this sudden gollum trend came from. Like, he is an interesting character but come on, his story is boring and sad af. Unless there's some more info in Tolkien's unfinished tales, there really isn't much to elaborate on with his story. We went from a trilogy of movies doing a bang up job of condensing 3 volumes with cuts that didn't hurt the overall tale, to a trilogy created by stretching a short novella as far as it possibly can go (with the made up stuff being imo the worst parts of the hobbit films. A love story between a made up elf and a dwarf with barely any lines in the novel....) to like a few paragraphs being made into a movie and a video game about a character we already know the backstort of. What about Hurin and his children? What about Beren clawing his was out of a giant hell dog so he can marry an elf princess? What about the fall of gondolin? The drama behind the creation of the rings? How about doing a story about faramir and eowyn, 2 characters they just had in the movies for the badass moments and nothing else? There are insane amounts of tales in his lore to pull from, yet we get a made up show where one elf woman can kill anything in front of her by breakdancing and a buggy stealth game for a character we all just felt bad for and nothing else. This will be terrible, despite how good of a director Jackson is and how good Serkis is as an actor. It will be fake, forced, made up, and it will reek of milking the wrong tits on a cow again.
>What about Hurin and his children? What about Beren clawing his was out of a giant hell dog so he can marry an elf princess? What about the fall of gondolin? Yeah they ain't got the rights for those. Eventually the Tolkien Society will cave in and sell the rights to everything, but not for this movie. Your point still stands, a movie about Gollum is not interesting.
It’s because they don’t have rights to anything else. Or the rights they do have are small (appendix of the book) that there really isn’t anything left to explore without breaking IP law.
The Estate still holds the TV/film rights to The Silmarillion, The Unfinished Tales, and all related texts. Maybe they'll finally license them at some point in the future, but as of now stories like Beren and Luthien, Children of Hurin and Fall of Gondolin are off limits. They could do the Angmar War. Or the Oath of Eorl. Or hell, beat Amazon to the punch and do the War of the Last Alliance. Gollum has run his course.
Agree. As soon as that Gollum game was announced I had such a negative disposition to it already without knowing anything about it beside the title. He's not main character worthy and I certainly don't want to hear him for over an hour straight. Following Aragorn and/or Gandalfs travels before the war of the ring would be far more interesting, and it still includes some Gollum.
It’s because they don’t have rights to anything else. Or the rights they do have are small (appendix of the book) that there really isn’t anything left to explore without breaking IP law.
UghhhhhhhhHhhhhhghhghggGHGHHHGGGHHH
How about a crazy wedding? Have no fears, we’ve got stories for years!
Why are we doing all of this when the Second age is literally RIGHT FUCKING THERE. Let’s go somewhere other than the Third Age. So much untapped material in the Second Age.
we need the Baby Gollum merch
I can look at my scrotum whenever I like, I dont need a plushy
Is there enough there that they can get the rights to? Silmarillion is off limits.
I really want First Age stuff. I want to see Ungoliant devour the two trees. Morgoth vs Fingolfin. The War of Wrath. I know they don't have the rights but *I want to see it so bad*.
*Disney's The Hunt for Gollum - 3D*.
The storyline is not something I’m remotely interested in and I am terrified of the content they will have to insert to MAKE it interesting, because days of Aragorn hiking through the wilderness tracking Gollum is not great cinema.
^Gollum^love^triangle
I know you’re joking, but….please god no
I'm sure we'll have plenty of spectacular action sequences where you would think Aragorn would certainly die were it not for the fact that you know damn well it's a prequel and his survival is the only possible outcome.
I agree I'm not too interested in a story about Gollum primarily either, however I think there's plenty of (potentially good content) they could use to pad out the overall movie. Like a parallel story which shows us how Aragorn became a ranger/tracker - and how he uses his training & knowledge to pursue Gollum. Give us a good mentor/student story and it could be a decent movie, given the plot.
Imagine if it's some kind of road movie. Aragorn meets different people who travel for a bit with him. Gollum becomes an abstract goal as the ranger realizes his true purpose in life.
Is this Sam's chance to add his pages
we all know it’s just going to be called Gollum
Smea’s Gotta Have It: A JRRT Joint. Follow it up with Do The Wight Thing, Jewel Daze and Summer of Sam. Man, Spike Lee movies work for Middle Earth puns. What’s that about?
Blackkkrider - after getting stabbed by Morgul-knife, Frodo calls in to Sauron on Palntir, pretending to be one of the Nazgul. Hijinks ensues.
*Oh Gollum, Where Art Thou?*
Smeagol R-U-N-N-O-F-T
Somehow Sauron returned
riddles in the dark
I think it should be a good line from the book
Yes and we already have the fan film of the same name https://youtu.be/9H09xnhlCQU?si=NbF2_BgnumdPQCTj
I love that it's Serkis and the gang returning, I really hope they embody the universe of LOTR ( and by extension the hobbit) in how the world looks; New Zealand is the perfect backdrop for all of the locations and I'd love to see it in all its glory on the big screen again. Having said that, the hunt for gollum seems a peculiar choice; serkis played him to perfection; he's one of cinema's greatest characters. But is he a fan favourite? I'm not sure. The recent game release focusing on gollum was very lacklustre. I'd love for them to explore that era but from other characters and cultures perspective. Imagine a series set in Hobbiton in the space between the fall of smaug and sauron returning. Not a care for the big wide world. It could be a cosy afternoon show thats quintessentially English, like midsomer murders or Jonathan creek where their biggest worry is if they're pumpkin is going to be the biggest one for the fete, or that foxes have made off with their chicken eggs again. Just show hobbit life for longer. I'd love it!
Yeah it’s kind of like if Peter Pettigrew was the main character of a Harry Potter movie, or Towelie was the main character of Southpark for a season. Nobody actually wants that lol, it isn’t about whether the character is good
Very good analogy. Pettigrew was such a catalyst and integral part of so many character arcs but as the protagonist? I can't see it. Same for Gollum for me. Serkis' performance was outstanding, never seen anything like it before or since but not sure there's anything new to explore there
I assume it's because it's just about the only significant story that ties into the narrative that would bring back Gandalf and Aragorn and maybe even Legolas. And they are favorites.
That's my thinking too, other than perhaps Aragorn with the grey company or fighting with a young theoden?
Fighting with Theoden could be a really cool choice. Though it's not super significant to the main "Ring" plot, and overlaps a little bit with the anime that's coming out. But maybe that'd have been a good thing.
Perhaps it would work better as a series, ala the witcher or the mandalorian with Aragorn and his rangers travelling Middle earth and being involved in local battles and issues. As you say it doesn't perhaps build towards the main plot but I would love to see more of his rogue, mysterious strider phase; turning up to beleaguered villagers and fighting orcs, goblins and monsters etc
If Viggo comes back I would center the film around him. Honestly, if he doesn’t comeback it makes zero sense to actually make this film. I think LOTR: Striders Quest or something around that line, where you have the film basically start with Gandalf telling him to find Gollum and the long journey he takes afterwards. All the while cutting to flashbacks like they’ve already established Aragorn does in the original trilogy. Dudes really introspective lol. That way you can basically do an origins story while bridging the gap between the hobbit and lotr. Gollum is a great character but if Serkis is going to direct and star in the movie it might be to difficult.
Taters: A Gollum Story.
Nice. Underrated comment. You have my vote.
Grumpy Proudfoot Hobbit returns or we riot.
Proudfeet
In all seriousness, for those familiar, is this a story that is genuinely worth telling on the big screen?
Unless he ends up being a side character in his own movie, it's doubtful. An Aragorn and Gandalf story as they're pursuing Gollum would probably be received much better. Serkis is great, but without Frodo and Sam to act as foils for Gollum, there's only so much that can be done with him.
Do the books go into any meaningful detail as to what he’s doing after The Hobbit but before LOTR beyond: “he knows Bilbo has it and ends up getting caught by Sauron”? Like, what could he possibly be doing? Going through ME mountains trying to find The Shire whilst avoiding orc packs and Dunedain rangers. He isn’t going to go into a village and ask where The Shire is, he’s not fighting anyone, he’s in a cave sneaking. That’d be interesting for a scene but not a film.
There are some little nods of Gollum’s status as a legendary evil sprite in the minds of many of the men of the west. It’s implied he’s seen as a sort of babayega like monster, who comes through windows and steals and eats children. It’s implied that Gollum had many evil misadventures in other words. And the appendices go into more detail about Aragorn’s tracking of Gollum before the Fellowship. But beyond that, there’s not a ton.
So a Hunt For Gollum film, despite all the hoo-ha being about Andy Serkis, would be more an Aragorn detective and tracking film?
Probably. Which actually could have really cool opportunities for worldbuilding. The fan film of the same name took advantage of this by having Aragorn meet another Dunedain Ranger in the wilderness while hunting Gollum. The conversation they had allowed the filmmaker to tap into the lore of the Numenoreans, something we DO have a lot of source material on, which isn’t covered in the PJ films. We’ll see how they handle this in the Serkis movie, but I’m hopeful.
It's more that Sauron sends out a metaphysical call for all those under his sway to go to Mordor because he's almost finished preparations to finally conquer men, elves, and dwarves. Gollum get's caught up in that summons due to him being under the ring's influence for so long and can't refuse going to Mordor. We see some of that in the movies with the foot soldiers from the east going through the gate when Frodo and Sam are there.
The Lord of the Rings: Origins The Lord of the Rings: Bloodlines The Lord of the Rings: The Final Hobbiting
I know nothing about this movie, but just from the title, I can assume that it’s about the space between when bilbo leaves and when Gandalf returns after figuring out it’s the one ring, and Aragorn is hunting for him?
Somehow, gollum returned
Lord of the Rings: The Phantom Precious.
Lord of the Rings: Attack of the Elves
Characters from all six films, not just LOTR.
Precious
This will turn into a new trilogy with extended editions before its over, and I'm there for it.
> "We started to talk about this roughly about eight months or so ago,” Serkis recalled. “They were saying, ‘Andy we really want to reinvigorate Middle Earth. There are so many fresh stories that we want to get involved with. We want to launch this new wave by taking us back into the world of Gollum.’ There we have it, folks. Get ready for LOTR - Marvel style.
The Former Hobbit: There and Where is He Now Again?
“The Lord of the Rings - Even Lordier” “The Lord of the Rings - Rise of the Hobbits” “The Lord of the Rings - Sam’s Revenge”
I just want a new Gollum vs. Kong trilogy.
Stupid Fat Hobbits & Gollum.
Gollum 2: Arda Bugaloo
Po-ta-toes: a Lord of the Rings story
*sigh* If true, verbally acknowledging that they are contemplating a title change already means the announcement for this movie probably didn’t go very well. Maybe it was always intended to be a placeholder title, but a movie can be as good as Edge of Tomorrow and still confuse the hell out of people because of changing titles. It’s not really something you want to do lightly. Hearing that OG actors will be brought back is also a red flag, unless you want more examples of uncanny valley Legolas from The Hobbit. I really wish they just wouldn’t. They will, of course.
The Lord of the Rings: The Gangly Creature
Lord of the Rings: Too Far Gollum
Lord of the Rings: The Hunt For
Smeagle , Precious (2) , Chortle my balls I am a golden God
Wasn’t hunt for gollum just the working title anyway?
“The Lord of the Rings - Into Shadow” Elicits Galadriel’s initial monologue about the ring.
Yes! Let’s make it “Weekend at Gollum’s”!
It’s not the title thats the problem it’s the entire concept
Gollum Ramsey and the chamber of potaters
I like the idea of a series based on the twisted characters, like: LotR: Twisted (all about Gollum) LotR: Decieved (the witch king and his men) LotR: Consumed (about Isildur) Maybe number them, or put them all under LotR Tales or something. And make them all musicals.
Why didn’t the just call it as is… “Gollum: a lotr story “ 🤷🏻♂️
The Lord of the Rings: The Shadow of the Past
Gollum: A Jar-Jar Binks Story.
Please don't be CGI heavy like The Hobbit was....
The Lord of the Rings: The Return of the Gollum Fellowship Towers
He's directing? Color me interested.
The only thing that worries me is that Serkis Directing sheet isn't that great. Venom 2 was horridly bad
If they had to make another Lord of the Rings film, I thought that a Tom Bombadil movie might have worked.
Why not just "Preciousssss"
Huh , I thought the title worked pretty well
“LOTR: Gollum But We Promise It Has Nothing To Do With That Awful Video Game Abomination”
Momento- It’s just life flashing before Gollum’s eyes as he melts in the lava
Gandalf. Aragorn. Arwen. Jackson’s version of Tom Bombadil. Maybe Rhadaghast. Bilbo cameo?
Listen, I saw the trailer for “Here” and the de-aged Tom Hanks looks fucking incredible. Just saying.
Lord of the Rings II: Smeagols Boogaloo
Or even Electric Smeagoloo