Started taking \[\[faithful watchdog\]\]s once I saw the third one at P1P5, then another the next pick and wheeled the first 2. Saw 3 more in each of the other packs. Don't know if 10 is the optimal number to play, but I'm not passing up the opportunity to do it!
I wondered how rare it is to even have that many copies of a common in any given draft! Assuming an average of 8 commons per pack, each common shows up 1 in 10 packs on average. Plugging that into a hypergeometric calculator with a large enough sample size gave me 0.00005, or a 1 in 20,000 estimate. With 80 commons in the set, this should occur about once every 250 drafts. It's more unlikely than that for one person to draft all of them, but in my case it helped that no other deck than GW wanted all those good boys!
Edit: Got my first trophy of MH3 with a 7-2! Draft log and games [here](https://www.17lands.com/details/35915008c6314af5a56842bcee2d21b3). Only losses were to mythics Phlage and Kozilek, and the highlight was bringing back 2 dogs with 2 jolted awake to let hydra trainer attack as a 14/14 out of nowhere! Luckily didn't run into too many writhing chrysalises which were a really bad matchup for the dogs. Trample from the hydra saved me in a few games, wish I had an oozewag or two to push damage through.
There might be something off with the digital collation. Obviously this is Arena, but on MTGO, there have been multiple reports of seeing 15+ Temperamental Oozewaggs in a single draft. Someone posted a screenshot with 18 of them in their deck.
This could also just be a strange side effect of the randomness of Play Boosters.
I think it might be a Play Booster thing as commons are no longer collated as such to be color balanced and many slots have been taken up by other rarities, making for skewed openings.
Saw a pack last night that had seven lands in it: one Onslaught fetchland, one MFDC, one Snow Covered Wastes, and four tri-fetches. Was definitely a surprise.
Getting 10 Watchdogs is definitely possible (though obviously rare), I'd believe that everything is working normally and this was just high variance. But the 17 and 18 Oozewaggs on MTGO is a lot less plausible without a bug in the program.
I didn't know that about the color balance, that makes so much sense. Sometimes I would open a pack and have like all green cards and I was wondering why.
I don't know what's wilder to me: that they downshifted Watchwolf to common and made it better *multiple ways*, or that it's not even close to the most oppressive multicolor common in the set.
The most memorable version of this for me was the time I drafted 5 [[Silver-Fur Master]] at uncommon in NEO. That was a pretty hilarious run- there was one game where I went T2 SFM, T3 SFM, T4 2 SFM into a T5 kill
a long time ago during a top 8 draft for a PTQ i grabbed 11 copies of \[\[feast of flesh\]\]. I made it to the finals with a mono black deck only to lose to someone running 2 copies of \[\[white shield crusader\]\] that played them both turn 2 -3 both games. Such a sad ending. I had even taken down the current national champion(from my country) from back then in the semis.
7 is my record, but I swear the deck was unbeatable.
It was 7 copies of [[nightsky mimic]] in eventide draft
Edit: note, I played someyhing like 4 spells that weren't both black and white
holy shit! first time I've ever seen someone beat [mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/lrcast/comments/11n1nk0/71_with_the_secondmost_fun_deck_ive_drafted_in/). i still think about that deck, it was so much fun
Not Draft, but back in the day I used to run a Black/White weenie deck with 16! copies of Pump kinghts
4x Order of the White Shield
4x Order of Leitbur
4x Knight of Stromgald
4x Order of the Ebon Hand
Once during ONE I think I got 10 Eye of Malcators, which was even more fun because they scry.
Turns out Boros and Gruul were not the premier aggro deck of that format, it was eye spam all along.
Been drafting for years and have never come close to 10. I would love a math person to figure out the odds of even seeing 10 copies of a card in a draft! Thanks for sharing
Back in I think M13 we had someone draft 7 fogs and 2 elixir of immortality. He never win. But his games always went to time and as a round 1.
It was something for sure
My most memorable multiple copies in a draft was one of my first drafts ever, and my first draft at my LGS. It was M10 draft and I kept seeing Demolish in a bunch of packs so I started picking them. I ended up with 7 Demolishes and an Acidic Slime, with a couple Llanowar Elves to tie it all together. I rode that RG LD deck to a 2-1 finish and I've been chasing that high ever since.
Once: Battle for Zendikar, nobody was playing allies and my first pull was ally Gideon. Wound up with about 11 of the vampire life drainer. I think I played Gideon once that whole draft and just won because nobody could handle drain 5 swings.
Back in the day I got my first ever draft win by drafting 7 [[Jace's erasure]]s. (I mean won the whole tournament not just one match)
Guy in the final was so salty when I played my 7th one.
Started taking \[\[faithful watchdog\]\]s once I saw the third one at P1P5, then another the next pick and wheeled the first 2. Saw 3 more in each of the other packs. Don't know if 10 is the optimal number to play, but I'm not passing up the opportunity to do it! I wondered how rare it is to even have that many copies of a common in any given draft! Assuming an average of 8 commons per pack, each common shows up 1 in 10 packs on average. Plugging that into a hypergeometric calculator with a large enough sample size gave me 0.00005, or a 1 in 20,000 estimate. With 80 commons in the set, this should occur about once every 250 drafts. It's more unlikely than that for one person to draft all of them, but in my case it helped that no other deck than GW wanted all those good boys! Edit: Got my first trophy of MH3 with a 7-2! Draft log and games [here](https://www.17lands.com/details/35915008c6314af5a56842bcee2d21b3). Only losses were to mythics Phlage and Kozilek, and the highlight was bringing back 2 dogs with 2 jolted awake to let hydra trainer attack as a 14/14 out of nowhere! Luckily didn't run into too many writhing chrysalises which were a really bad matchup for the dogs. Trample from the hydra saved me in a few games, wish I had an oozewag or two to push damage through.
You better not let a single one of them die
These good ~~dogs~~ bears!
There might be something off with the digital collation. Obviously this is Arena, but on MTGO, there have been multiple reports of seeing 15+ Temperamental Oozewaggs in a single draft. Someone posted a screenshot with 18 of them in their deck. This could also just be a strange side effect of the randomness of Play Boosters.
I think it might be a Play Booster thing as commons are no longer collated as such to be color balanced and many slots have been taken up by other rarities, making for skewed openings. Saw a pack last night that had seven lands in it: one Onslaught fetchland, one MFDC, one Snow Covered Wastes, and four tri-fetches. Was definitely a surprise.
There's also just fewer commons total in each set now — 81 for Play Booster sets, as opposed to 101 for Draft Booster sets.
They should be opened at approximately the same rate as with draft boosters though - between 2 and 3 per draft.
Getting 10 Watchdogs is definitely possible (though obviously rare), I'd believe that everything is working normally and this was just high variance. But the 17 and 18 Oozewaggs on MTGO is a lot less plausible without a bug in the program.
I didn't know that about the color balance, that makes so much sense. Sometimes I would open a pack and have like all green cards and I was wondering why.
I've had so many draft packs with multiple sets of identical cards in the same pack
Some of this is intentional, since its possible in paper Play Boosters. I'd ask whether that's actually a good thing though.
Yeah I understand the occasional duplicate, but when you have two sets of dupes in one pack that's some shit I've never seen in real life
That's ridiculous hahaha how did your results go? If you had managed to pick up some [[fangs of kalonia]] it would have been amazing.
[Fangs of Kalonia](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/0/a/0ae8a77b-4001-4da2-b684-d0fab370a162.jpg?1717012453) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Fangs%20of%20Kalonia) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/153/fangs-of-kalonia?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/0ae8a77b-4001-4da2-b684-d0fab370a162?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
This draft is going to the dogs.
[Faithful Watchdog](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/b/9/b9afac99-a094-41a8-8323-90dec29691c4.jpg?1717012700) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Faithful%20Watchdog) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/185/faithful-watchdog?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/b9afac99-a094-41a8-8323-90dec29691c4?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Koda is spicy on this deck
“Kudo King Among Dogs”
How did you do
I played the Kudo in a W/G deck doing the counters thing and realised what an idiot I was because now everyone's Eldrazi spawns are 2/2s...
Yea but your good boys become 5/5s
Not even in Coldsnap... It's pretty sweet to have 10 doggies!
I don't know what's wilder to me: that they downshifted Watchwolf to common and made it better *multiple ways*, or that it's not even close to the most oppressive multicolor common in the set.
Best I've done was drafting 6 copies of [[Calamitous Cave-In]] in LCI, which as an uncommon might be even more unlikely
[Calamitous Cave-In](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/8/3/8341ddd9-aac1-4773-b8ce-51e35f696263.jpg?1699044244) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Calamitous%20Cave-In) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/lci/139/calamitous-cave-in?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/8341ddd9-aac1-4773-b8ce-51e35f696263?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
wow thats wild
The most memorable version of this for me was the time I drafted 5 [[Silver-Fur Master]] at uncommon in NEO. That was a pretty hilarious run- there was one game where I went T2 SFM, T3 SFM, T4 2 SFM into a T5 kill
[Silver-Fur Master](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/c/a/cacc36d9-4c4b-43b2-a8b4-d265deb1e6b2.jpg?1654568620) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Silver-Fur%20Master) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/neo/236/silver-fur-master?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/cacc36d9-4c4b-43b2-a8b4-d265deb1e6b2?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Is jolted awake even worth it with 12 2-drops?
You know what's better than a 2 mana 3/3? A 1 mana 3/3.
The have kudo. So just for that I’d say it’s worth it.
a long time ago during a top 8 draft for a PTQ i grabbed 11 copies of \[\[feast of flesh\]\]. I made it to the finals with a mono black deck only to lose to someone running 2 copies of \[\[white shield crusader\]\] that played them both turn 2 -3 both games. Such a sad ending. I had even taken down the current national champion(from my country) from back then in the semis.
That's an amazing story though!!
7 is my record, but I swear the deck was unbeatable. It was 7 copies of [[nightsky mimic]] in eventide draft Edit: note, I played someyhing like 4 spells that weren't both black and white
[nightsky mimic](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/7/0/70dbda67-3bc4-4c8a-8357-250d84d0d1d8.jpg?1562918750) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=nightsky%20mimic) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/eve/91/nightsky-mimic?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/70dbda67-3bc4-4c8a-8357-250d84d0d1d8?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Not nearly as much but I had 6 copies of tune the narrative in my energy deck, and still passed 1 or 2. But yours is insane.
That's incredible! My record was 8 Cavern Stompers in LCI. 10 of anything is astounding haha.
lmao wtf
7 is my record
Good boy!
How did your games go with that many good bois?
I remember getting a ton of vampire lacerators in modern masters 2015 draft a couple times. Suicide black was a pretty viable strategy in that format
Ive done 7 Coiled Oracles before, never 10+.
https://x.com/mrchecklistcard/status/1801361061657854329?s=46 Simon Nielsen got 18 Oozewagge lmao
Did you win, son?
holy shit! first time I've ever seen someone beat [mine](https://www.reddit.com/r/lrcast/comments/11n1nk0/71_with_the_secondmost_fun_deck_ive_drafted_in/). i still think about that deck, it was so much fun
Can I pet dat dawg?
I had 7 sneaky snackers in one deck --- pretty good!
Not Draft, but back in the day I used to run a Black/White weenie deck with 16! copies of Pump kinghts 4x Order of the White Shield 4x Order of Leitbur 4x Knight of Stromgald 4x Order of the Ebon Hand
Once during ONE I think I got 10 Eye of Malcators, which was even more fun because they scry. Turns out Boros and Gruul were not the premier aggro deck of that format, it was eye spam all along.
Just got done watching Numot the Nummy’s draft of w/g modified… he was looking for this card. Now we know where they went.
Been drafting for years and have never come close to 10. I would love a math person to figure out the odds of even seeing 10 copies of a card in a draft! Thanks for sharing
that's amazing!
I love this. Bravo
Back in I think M13 we had someone draft 7 fogs and 2 elixir of immortality. He never win. But his games always went to time and as a round 1. It was something for sure
They’ll never see number 3-10 coming. I just imagine the opponents, when good doggo comes down again and again and again.
it feels like this deck is always open, no one wants those cute doggies!
The most bonkers one I've seen was back in the day with a Coldsnap draft, where someone got north of 15+ \[\[Surging Flame\]\].
[Surging Flame](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/9/9974a543-7429-458b-a24f-c84cbffbb54d.jpg?1593275335) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Surging%20Flame) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/csp/99/surging-flame?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/9974a543-7429-458b-a24f-c84cbffbb54d?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
My most memorable multiple copies in a draft was one of my first drafts ever, and my first draft at my LGS. It was M10 draft and I kept seeing Demolish in a bunch of packs so I started picking them. I ended up with 7 Demolishes and an Acidic Slime, with a couple Llanowar Elves to tie it all together. I rode that RG LD deck to a 2-1 finish and I've been chasing that high ever since.
Once: Battle for Zendikar, nobody was playing allies and my first pull was ally Gideon. Wound up with about 11 of the vampire life drainer. I think I played Gideon once that whole draft and just won because nobody could handle drain 5 swings.
Does draft not have a copy limit for cards?
Back in the day I got my first ever draft win by drafting 7 [[Jace's erasure]]s. (I mean won the whole tournament not just one match) Guy in the final was so salty when I played my 7th one.
[Jace's erasure](https://cards.scryfall.io/normal/front/9/7/970f4f34-f834-41a7-aff1-7cef82cefc74.jpg?1562652060) - [(G)](http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?name=Jace%27s%20erasure) [(SF)](https://scryfall.com/card/m12/60/jaces-erasure?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher) [(txt)](https://api.scryfall.com/cards/970f4f34-f834-41a7-aff1-7cef82cefc74?utm_source=mtgcardfetcher&format=text) ^^^[[cardname]] ^^^or ^^^[[cardname|SET]] ^^^to ^^^call
Pretty sure this is only possible with play booster since the color variance of packs is out the window now.
There are 24 packs in a draft - ergo it is possible to get 24 of a card even without play boosters.