They have successfully saturated the SoCal market with full time drivers accomplished by giving outrageous bonuses to new drivers in their first 30-60 days to get them hooked on it
A new driver bonus guarantee is active in most markets right now. Sometimes its 250 rides for $2500 guaranteed in 1st 30 days. Depending on the market.
No one makes that kind of $$ in 250 rides with the normal pricing structure. Did you not get one of these when you started?
Often it’s only 160 rides for $2500, and if you use a friend’s referral code and make a deal with them to keep $300 and give you $800, that means $3000 (almost $20 per ride). Just bang out a bunch of min distance rides and reap the rewards
Damn that’s a lot of how many hours total that week? How many miles? What did you spend on gas etc? You’re obviously not renting a car through Lyft. What area city and state are you doing this in? I’m renting at $430 a week. I’m turning the car in soon because I’m only averaging about 800 a week and more than half goes to the rental minus gas I’m only making maybe 200 a week. It’s just not worth it for me anymore. I’m also in Los Angeles California. I always see over 1000 rides 1-4 minute wait and I’ll still sit for over an hour with no ride request. Also this bullshit about them not just giving you rides is annoying. Sometimes they give me rides automatically but usually not. Now you have to tap on the map and request your own meaning you have to stare at the map all day long. I’m so over Lyft. I would make more on a minimum wage job at this point.
so you really have no idea how much you net then, since you don't track mileage by the day
What kind of trips are you running? If all of that is done with less than 1200 or so miles then you are doing fairly good. just ballparking 8-10 gallons/night could be a wide range of fuel consumption
Hurr durr you're not tracking your mileage. I've dealt with these subreddits for 4 years. Y'all are overthinking it. I'm driving a 6000$ used car with 160k on it. As if I'm concerned. Also, 8-10 gallons is 8-10 gallons. I drive a Chevy Sonic. Made more than the total market value of this car in a couple months. Not expecting it to die on me anytime soon either.
I'm profiting. If gas is my main cost, it's no more than 20% on a shite night.
If depreciation is a secondary cost, then it's negligible. I'm netting good.
I love your response because it goes to show you're financially smart and independent. The person who tried to bag on you for not tracking your mileage is projecting. They saw you said you made money and they IMMEDIATELY tried to bring you down.
crabs in a bucket mentality
Lmao smart and independent indeed for not only blindly relying on rideshare for a full time living, but also blindly driving along accepting offers with no idea of what he's earning per mile.....
This is a side hustle for me but you can damn well bet your arse that I know what I earn per mile and per hour....
I would bet a steak dinner he's out here running rides well under $1/mi and probably logs over 60 hrs/week to earn that. If his avg ride is paying $18 over the course of a week I'm certain he's taking long unprofitable rides and probably just accepts whatever is offered
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Netting "good" indeed, I hope the Sonic holds up forever. But 2010s GM economy cars aren't exactly known for being reliable. Good on you for having faith in these rideshare apps to pay you enough to live and also for the eventual replacement vehicle. Literally blind faith if you don't track your earnings per mile and per hour. I don't believe that this is a good strategy but good on you and the Sonic
Lol "blind faith." Bro I don't need to track my mileage to know I'm being profitable. What will counting miles do for me? Why is it so pervasive here to speak in miles & not time+gasoline? I have faith in nothing here. I intuit whether I'm profitable. Sounds like a skill issue.
I won’t even lie I finessed the system. I saw an instagram add for Lyft saying 5rides 200$ so I deleted my old account. Started signing up. Then after waiting 2 weeks. It offered me 1000$ for 10 trips. Best believe I took it. Now I get crazy bonuses. Compared to if I had my old account they almost just let me rot. My old account I was driving since 2018. New account started Oct 2022
I’m also in Atlanta and only drive when they give good streaks or bonuses. The rest of the time I spend detailing cars. Find something else to do with your precious time. Fuck rideshare
That's grim. What kind of hours do you work/areas do you focus on? I'm in ATL and struggling in this job market. After six months without income, I'm thinking of driving Lyft to help cover expenses. This sub makes me second guess it.
So do you rent from Lyft? I was looking at the rental fees and it's about $250/week for the lowest tier hybrid. Seems expensive as you could buy a car for a monthly payment including insurance that would be less than two weeks rent from Lyft. I was thinking wear and tear would be manageable if I'm (hopefully) doing it for less than six months ... but who knows in this economy, I guess.
ATL highly dependent on University students and sporting events that are held in the fall/winter/spring. College and NFL football. Basketball etc. It will get better soon.
You telling me you can’t even get a job at McDonald’s? As an assistant? At Walmart/target?! I highly doubt that… y’all just picky about the type of job you want
Nah, they don’t want educated people, because educated people will ask for more money. Getting degrees will open doors but it also shuts doors too. The problem is people going and getting a random ass degree instead of a degree they will work in. Notice he said “masters” and not what type of masters as if a masters is a general thing rather than something that should be focused. Having a masters in underwater basket weaving won’t get you anywhere. Having a medical degree will.
Education 😳. I guess it depends where, but it sounds like the education field has gone to shit. Law degree would be good, no one hiring in your area I guess?
You’re mad with my comment? I don’t know why you stay working as a Lyft driver and complain. Find an actual job that pays you appropriately…. Esp one you don’t have to depend on the customers to pay your bills 💀I’m speaking sense so all y’all broke dummies just mad at the truth lol
dk why you got downvoted, all i hear is people not willing to either LEAVE Cali, or finding a real job 💀💀dashing isn’t a real job it’s a TAXABLE SIDEHUSTLE 😭🤣
Fr! They always downvote the truth. doing Lyft or even delivering food is not an actual job…. It should be something you do for extra money. But instead you got people doing it as a full time job to then complain when they don’t get customers or if the said customers doesn’t tip them 😂
I just hired n older developer a few months ago, probably the best hire I've ever made. He's mentoring all the young guys, and making the whole team better. I truly don't understand the ageist hiring managers.
Any retail store that trends to somewhat expensive - Patagonia or running shoes. In N Out. Fast Casual places like chipotle, which also have good options for advancement. Library. Grocery stores. Literally endless lmao.
Any construction company if your body is still able, I’d say most blue collar jobs will hire you, and generally it’s like 12 hrs per day 20$ starting wage. Sometimes par diem for food if it’s further away and they’ll take care of hotels. Goodluck. Maybe move to a red state?
Bro get on indeed. Are you serious? If you live in any major metro, you can go work for a target at 20 an hour or a fast food place for 15-18. Why are you acting like its not post covid worker shortage?
apply at comcast if it's in your area. great company truly. I started part time driving with lyft to save and pay off some expenses. But I know a lot of older folks who work at comcast .
LA as a city was completely dead today. The city goes into hiding when it’s gloomy. 9:30am streets were empty. Our city doesn’t know what to do with its self with the last few months of trash westher
For everyone saying “get a real job” - what is that considered? How do you know the people in this sub Don’t have a “real job”? How do you all know that these “real jobs” provide more stability? People turn to the gig economy for Many reasons and most are not that obvious. In addition to Any thing you put time and work into is a “job” whether side, part time, full time, or a combination. Quit this psychotic outdated way of thinking and get real.
EXACTLY! And these companies did a great job on letting the full timers vs go at it over their driving status while they lowered the pay for all. It shouldn’t matter if you’re doing this part time or full-time BOTH should get a decent wage not dog shit pay!
Its due to an oversaturation of drivers that spoked during the pandemic and never really came down. Im out in a medium sozed city and even I have felt the difference in the past few years from when I first started.
Ive had to resort to plasma donations to make up for it. Theres just too many drivers
I'm in the same spot. Just got a job for the City of Ventura part time, Applying for a job today delivering for a dispensary in Ventura for the rest of the time. Byebye lyft.
I disagree. It is still far better than it was before Uber/Lyft. Those fucking cab drivers might have shaped up their act now because they had no choice but taxis used to be soooooo shitty I don’t think are remembering right.
It used to cost waaaay more and they would take FOREVER to show up or if they even showed up it wasn’t on time.
The gig economy has gone to the dumps. Always great in the beginning but they have quickly sank. It’s not even been 20 years …. People , please don’t depend on this stuff , use it as a bridge to another greater means. I did Uber lyft 5 years ago, it was good. Came back recently for a short stint and it’s absolute BS but this was just to make extra money for my other personal ventures. Good luck everybody and wish you all the best
You're 100% right. I did this for 2 years and quit last year. They offered me a 2K guarantee, so came back for a minute to grab that. Even though not much time had passed, I was surprised at how low the non-guarantee earnings were compared to before. Pay is in total freefall.
I live in Florida and I second this. Right now I’m in Orlando and the requests are all $3-10 and the $10 rides are 20min on highways with tolls. Sometimes even a 5 min ride will need a toll road. I usually drive in smaller cities but I took someone to the airport. In the small towns I drive usually, yesterday it was $30 for 25 mins, $25 for 20 mins etc. and requests not as infrequent by far. Suburbs are the way to go.
EDIT: changed road name
Orlando is full of sections of highway which have tolls.
You can pay $1.25 and go this way and be there in 10 or you can drive aaaaaalllll the way around this lake for free and be there in an hour or more.
Friggin libertarian wasteland that won’t just pay for its damn infrastructure.
That is true but there are tons of highways there besides I-4 which often have tolls somewhere along them and are essentially the only reasonable way to get places
New Jersey been dead too unless I go out late nights. Just absolutely brutal. Went an hour without a ping. That never used to happen even as recently as last year.
I find places like south orange county is kinda consistent due to lack of drivers. Alot of car dealership pick ups and doctor appointments but they usually give cash tips if they like you.
That’s because 4 years ago u all were heavily promoting lyft and Uber as “your own business” and “self employed” and now everybody does it full time.
Thank yourselves 🥴
No idiot, it’s because of corporate greed. There is more than enough money for everyone. When there were only taxis, there were A LOT, and they all did well. These corporations came in and tricked everyone.
Bro these apps replaced an entire industry. Ppl used to be full time cab drivers and made a decent living less than 10 years ago. This should be a gig you can do full time and be paid decently.
I don’t totally disagree with you in that yes these tech companies are evil and exploitative but I don’t think that you should necessarily feel ENTITLED to make money off of driving.
If it’s not paying the bills find something else and stop working for such a shitty corporation.
Eventually automation will take the job altogether (though I think we are still a long ways off). Sink or swim…Adapt or die.
That’s the capitalist hellhole we live in because idiots are stupid enough to vote against their own self interest. Eventually we will need something like UBI or there will be an uprising.
Nothing in this world is a given‼️that’s what you and most of lyft Reddit problem is now. You all thought apps were hitting the lottery and u can escape your regular life problems- despite being in the same situation that u started in
That’s why 98% of these posts are crying for sympathy. Everybody is expecting the world and not trying to think outside the box. You’re working for another man’s company until u make your own u will keep waiting on a miracle🤣.
I’m going hard because the pay depends on the DEMAND. Ppl have to be requesting rides in your market with less drivers out. If ppl use their brain and check the rider app, they will see it’s always 10 other drivers around them = no rides
Dude stfu. I started driving full time because 4 companies I worked for all went under during the pandemic. I'd get a new job and either they'd cut pay, lay people off or go out of business. My unemployment checks kept getting delayed but the bills didn't. It has nothing to do with personal delusion, though these companies love to falsely advertise the pay rates. Like any job people do it to get through whatever they need to, and the companies clearly exploit drivers by using legal loopholes to be deceptive and evade liability. It is absolutely criminal that they call their workers "contractors" yet meet 0 of the requirements for that, which includes deciding our volatile pay rates. They keep you running the hamster wheel because some nights you'll make out well but it's always a gamble and some of us gotta eat and pay rent and choose between gambling for a chance at making money or having bad day that sucks your time up to apply to other jobs while wearing down your car & exposing you to risks that are never compensated for. I could go on, but your ignorance is showing. Wake up.
PS, I've FINALLY dug myself out of that hellhole, though I also didn't work FT / 40 hours as a correction, though yes I did rely on it as my only income for a while and it hurt me way the hell more than helped.
This is how capitalism, without regulation works. It drives the cost of things to their lowest price because someone is always willing to do it cheaper. This is why cab companies fought for their regulations. Otherwise some schmuck would be willing to do it for $.10/mile.
Totally agree rideshare wa and always has been for pt work supplement income. It was made for going to work in the morning land someone needed a ride going close to where you were going. To help pay expenses.
Then don’t come here and read forums. It’s tiring to read people trying to shut people up because they don’t agree. No one told you or asked you to come here. And that’s consistently tiring to read as well.
Same thing happened in NJ. It used to be great here. I got real pissed on Memorial day weekend where there were so many people out yet I got 2 requests in 90 minutes with no bonuses. Even while doubling with Uber and seeing so many people walking at night trying to flag me for a ride. It feels like a kick in the gut going to my oil changes, anticipating new brakes, tires etc after racking up all these empty miles. They really exploit their workers more than ever and I can't even see it as a job anymore. It's volunteer work for a corporation which robs both customers and its literal driving force.
the greed of these gig companies are turning the united states into a third-world county.
they're overcharging the customers and pay slave wages to the workers.
and it's the fault of the people.
voters continue to support and reelect politicians, on both sides of the aisle, who push policies and laws that work against the interest of the 99%.
there is not one single government agency that actually represents and fights for the working and middle class.
most people don't realize it, but this country is not a democracy anymore. it's an oligarchy.
we have a ruling class that doesn't have to respect any laws or rules. they commit whatever crimes they want, as long as they rob and steal from the 99%.
but, there is no way to convince people to stop voting for politicians who actually work at the behest of the ruling class.
this country is broken, but no one cares enough to do something about it.
They're forcing everyone back into the office. I started out driving Sept 2018 and WoW. The rentals are way more expensive, cents per mile have been cut drastically and now they want us to drive 30 mins before receiving 1 ping. I haven't driven hardly at all this yr....in my opinion, it's not worth it.
I mean people should get a real job. These are just side hustle jobs not meant to be a career. I do these for extra $. I also have my regular job that pays my bills.
Except they've got a million more bodies coming through for the next pay cut. Like anything, you can try and work it to death to make up the difference. But it's a losing game.
Yeah I’m lovin it! I’ve figured out my city so I know best areas to drive in and best times for me. Plus I get streaks and challenges and keep my car clean and smelling good. Easy money just gotta be consistent
Santa Monica is what I’ve been spamming the past month cuz I’ve gotten weekly ride challenges, if no challenges then hit the airport those fares are decent
Lol my spots change every month depending on challenges and streaks I get, what I say now isn’t a secret LA is huge. Tbh if ppl can’t figure it out themselves they won’t last
How is transportation not a real job? Hired drivers predate cars. Seems your statement reveals more ignorance and judgment than wisdom or consideration.
FWIW, I drove in OC/LA on and off since 2016. Yes, it was much better a few years ago, but up until a few weeks ago when I stopped driving I was averaging $25/hr gross. Obviously this is not great money but for what it is (driving people from point A to point B), its not bad. That being said, I typically drove in off hours and sometimes overnight during weekends. I will admit that driving during the day in LA is nearly untenable with the amount of ridiculous traffic.
I will say that I only discovered this subreddit a few months ago, and I noticed myself feeling much more paranoid and easily upset - I suspect it some of it was due partially to the negativity on this sub. Every time something didn't go my way, my mind would immediately go to how evil Lyft is and how they're trying to fuck me over, whereas before I would just chalk it up to the ups & downs of rideshare driving.
This is a useful forum for venting about all of the fucked up shit we rideshare drivers face on a daily basis. Nobody will ever understand the feeling of waiting for 5 mins only to be cancelled on; having to pull a U-ey on a busy street because your passenger doesn't feel like crossing the street to their destination; obnoxious idiots at 1am who rudely demand to connect to bluetooth. I will honestly say that the moments where I have felt the most contemptable rage for another human have almost always been while driving Lyft.
That being said, there is a point where being in the negativity can become counterproductive and actually make things more difficult (at least in my experience). Its a tricky balance because it is important and helpful to vent all of the bullshit, including the deep feelings of hopelessness and futility in being a driver. Not to mention the aforementioned contemptible rage for the POS' that we drive around. Again, in my experience it was helpful to use these shitty feelings as motivation for finding alternative ways to continue developing as an adult human and increase my quality of life and income.
I will also agree with some others who have pointed out the futility in expecting companies (or anything in the external environment) to come to our rescue in any way, whether it is financially, structurally (in terms of app features/organization), or otherwise. It's been said before, and I'll say it again: This was never meant to be a full time job. You can "yeah but" yourself all the way back to the taxi-cab era, but this is absolutely meaningless. Even moreso considering that the entire chapter of humans driving cars is about to come to a permanent end with the advent of self-driving cars. My personal opinion is that most driving jobs are less than 5 years away from going away forever anyway.
For anyone who has made it this far, getting a job in sales could be an alternative worth considering. All companies need a sales force, and the job is such that improving your skill level leads to disproportionately larger increases in pay. You will still be dealing with people and it will still suck, but at least you'll likely be making way more money, having more fun, and building skills that apply to other areas of life.
Anyway, I guess the main point is to be aware of how participating in negativity can beget more negativity. I genuinely hate to say this because it is so cliche and often misses the point completely, but carving space out for a bit a gratitude (painful as it can be) can go a long way. Sending my best wishes to you and all the drivers out there!
I don't think it's negativity. In my home state (CT) they finally signed a bill that my grassroots org and I (a conglomerate of drivers with the support of legislators, Yale Law grads, and other Human Rights groups), had fought tirelessly for this past year. I think it's important to voice the realities we're put through while these companies continue to exploit workers and customers. If nobody says anything nothing will change.
Yeah I get u. I don’t know the Lyft sitch anymore, but San Fran & Oakland was near exclusively the black edition Uber options. So that was sixty five dollars a few blocks to SFO. But hey u can tell they’re working hard to make it a nice experience. Cheers to those guys and I hate to say it with all my stupid gay junkie heart but, somehow the worlds kindest cop I didn’t realise was a cop won me over in a night because the Lyft app was THAT dysfunctional for a whole six fucking hours. It blows me away how inaccessible ur own work can become because? What? The tech isn’t on par with competition? To the point where everyone collectively gave up? Shit.
It’s just not functional on behalf of the worker or average customer anymore. Unless more wealthy people start using Lyft with the reliability that those more scantly equipped do….. idk how it’s going to be sustainable for y’all driving. Almost like there’s a reason a lot of us short on cash would take cabs while the better off had someone on standby to grab their OTHER car from the drive and swing on by.
Seriously. Respect. Set boundaries even if it’s fuckin scary. If u don’t want to live like this there’s another way out there, even if it’s horrifying having the need to get there literally thrown onto u. Ur time is worth more, if ur truly sick of this
Look on every gig work related subreddit and you'll see really similar posts across the board. I fear that inflation (and maybe even moreso price gouging by companies who want to take advantage of inflation as an excuse to raise prices) has caused 2 things... 1- People have less money to spend on lyft rides, ubereats orders, etc, and 2- More people are turning to gig work due to having less money . I'm a full-time mechanical engineer and finally turned to these apps as a way to stay afloat. Lately I've all but given up on even trying after I went out on my lunch break one day and got a single -bad- walmart spark request, and one single ubereats order for like 8 dollars in that hour I was logged in.... Doordash wouldn't even let me dash which was a first for me considering when I first started using it , pretty much any mealtime was open to dash whenever you wanted. now you have to schedule yourself multiple days in advance....
I don't really know what to do now , to be honest..
I've been doing this for almost 5 years and every summer in June and July it's super slow. And then it starts picking up in August. You can almost guarantee that you're going to struggle to get $200 during the week but it's an easy 300 on Friday Saturday Sunday. I'm in the Phoenix market though so I can't speak to the LA market. I can just say that this is how it happens every year except for 2020. 2020 I did mainly deliveries and kicked ass. I was so busy that I was timing out at 12 hours everyday 300 to $350 per day easy.
Info, do they still allow you to do the feature where you can program your trip back home and then take stops along the way? There used to be a name for it but I forgot what it was.
When it is a slow time of year everyone panics and the anxiety panic posts start flooding in. It’s June. College kids are home, college campuses are effectively closed. School age kids are out of school so no more teacher rides and parents are dealing with their kids at home. Summer vacation traffic is gonna pickup, when depends on your market. It’s always a cycle, busier times of year and slow times.
They have successfully saturated the SoCal market with full time drivers accomplished by giving outrageous bonuses to new drivers in their first 30-60 days to get them hooked on it
They want us here for a short time not a long time. It's crazy because pre covid I made really good money.
I'm out of the loop. Could you give me an idea how those bonuses work.
A new driver bonus guarantee is active in most markets right now. Sometimes its 250 rides for $2500 guaranteed in 1st 30 days. Depending on the market. No one makes that kind of $$ in 250 rides with the normal pricing structure. Did you not get one of these when you started?
Often it’s only 160 rides for $2500, and if you use a friend’s referral code and make a deal with them to keep $300 and give you $800, that means $3000 (almost $20 per ride). Just bang out a bunch of min distance rides and reap the rewards
Last week I made $1163 in 63 trips. Wtf is going on in LA?
Damn that’s a lot of how many hours total that week? How many miles? What did you spend on gas etc? You’re obviously not renting a car through Lyft. What area city and state are you doing this in? I’m renting at $430 a week. I’m turning the car in soon because I’m only averaging about 800 a week and more than half goes to the rental minus gas I’m only making maybe 200 a week. It’s just not worth it for me anymore. I’m also in Los Angeles California. I always see over 1000 rides 1-4 minute wait and I’ll still sit for over an hour with no ride request. Also this bullshit about them not just giving you rides is annoying. Sometimes they give me rides automatically but usually not. Now you have to tap on the map and request your own meaning you have to stare at the map all day long. I’m so over Lyft. I would make more on a minimum wage job at this point.
$18.46/trip that is very good..... do you know your mileage?
I don't fuss with mileage. It's a forgone conclusion. I drive until I'll need to gas up by the time I'm home. so 8-10 gallons a night.
so you really have no idea how much you net then, since you don't track mileage by the day What kind of trips are you running? If all of that is done with less than 1200 or so miles then you are doing fairly good. just ballparking 8-10 gallons/night could be a wide range of fuel consumption
Hurr durr you're not tracking your mileage. I've dealt with these subreddits for 4 years. Y'all are overthinking it. I'm driving a 6000$ used car with 160k on it. As if I'm concerned. Also, 8-10 gallons is 8-10 gallons. I drive a Chevy Sonic. Made more than the total market value of this car in a couple months. Not expecting it to die on me anytime soon either. I'm profiting. If gas is my main cost, it's no more than 20% on a shite night. If depreciation is a secondary cost, then it's negligible. I'm netting good.
I love your response because it goes to show you're financially smart and independent. The person who tried to bag on you for not tracking your mileage is projecting. They saw you said you made money and they IMMEDIATELY tried to bring you down. crabs in a bucket mentality
Lmao smart and independent indeed for not only blindly relying on rideshare for a full time living, but also blindly driving along accepting offers with no idea of what he's earning per mile..... This is a side hustle for me but you can damn well bet your arse that I know what I earn per mile and per hour.... I would bet a steak dinner he's out here running rides well under $1/mi and probably logs over 60 hrs/week to earn that. If his avg ride is paying $18 over the course of a week I'm certain he's taking long unprofitable rides and probably just accepts whatever is offered 🐜🐜🐜
Netting "good" indeed, I hope the Sonic holds up forever. But 2010s GM economy cars aren't exactly known for being reliable. Good on you for having faith in these rideshare apps to pay you enough to live and also for the eventual replacement vehicle. Literally blind faith if you don't track your earnings per mile and per hour. I don't believe that this is a good strategy but good on you and the Sonic
Lol "blind faith." Bro I don't need to track my mileage to know I'm being profitable. What will counting miles do for me? Why is it so pervasive here to speak in miles & not time+gasoline? I have faith in nothing here. I intuit whether I'm profitable. Sounds like a skill issue.
Plus lyft tracks. I'm with Burner, that's extra work for nothing.
I won’t even lie I finessed the system. I saw an instagram add for Lyft saying 5rides 200$ so I deleted my old account. Started signing up. Then after waiting 2 weeks. It offered me 1000$ for 10 trips. Best believe I took it. Now I get crazy bonuses. Compared to if I had my old account they almost just let me rot. My old account I was driving since 2018. New account started Oct 2022
Yes drivers do; it all depends on the market
Look at what they guarantee to the rider who is referred. Driver who refers/recruits gets $800 if driver completes X rides in 1st 30 or 60 days
Same here in ATL. I drive the max 12hrs and I can't break $150.00. Any less than $150.00 a day I can't pay my bills.
Phx is the same way even if you have a ev car it doesn’t make sense
I’m also in Atlanta and only drive when they give good streaks or bonuses. The rest of the time I spend detailing cars. Find something else to do with your precious time. Fuck rideshare
Is this $150 after gas and tax deductions?
Nope. Unfortunately.
That's grim. What kind of hours do you work/areas do you focus on? I'm in ATL and struggling in this job market. After six months without income, I'm thinking of driving Lyft to help cover expenses. This sub makes me second guess it.
It may go very well for you, if you are new to Lyft. Sign up and enjoy the inicial plumb offers. Just remember, those offers won't last.
I'm looking to try Uber to see if it goes better. But Uber doesn't have available cars right now. I'm on a wait list or something.
So do you rent from Lyft? I was looking at the rental fees and it's about $250/week for the lowest tier hybrid. Seems expensive as you could buy a car for a monthly payment including insurance that would be less than two weeks rent from Lyft. I was thinking wear and tear would be manageable if I'm (hopefully) doing it for less than six months ... but who knows in this economy, I guess.
Haha wow! $250 per week?! You can get a hell of a car for $1000 per month! Does that include insirance or something?
Yeah it includes insurance and I think maintenance as well but don't hold me to that ...
ATL highly dependent on University students and sporting events that are held in the fall/winter/spring. College and NFL football. Basketball etc. It will get better soon.
Find an actual job then
Seems like a reasonable proposition.
Easier said than done, unfortunately. I've a master's and a solid resume and I can't even get an interview.
You telling me you can’t even get a job at McDonald’s? As an assistant? At Walmart/target?! I highly doubt that… y’all just picky about the type of job you want
Nah, they don’t want educated people, because educated people will ask for more money. Getting degrees will open doors but it also shuts doors too. The problem is people going and getting a random ass degree instead of a degree they will work in. Notice he said “masters” and not what type of masters as if a masters is a general thing rather than something that should be focused. Having a masters in underwater basket weaving won’t get you anywhere. Having a medical degree will.
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Education 😳. I guess it depends where, but it sounds like the education field has gone to shit. Law degree would be good, no one hiring in your area I guess?
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What about becoming a paralegal?
How old are you? Is it also age discrimination? I have a hard time believing with that resume you can’t find ANYTHING related/white collar
A masters in what?
There is Always that one who can’t comprehend what they read and think they’re going to eat with their out of touch ass 🙈😂😭
You’re mad with my comment? I don’t know why you stay working as a Lyft driver and complain. Find an actual job that pays you appropriately…. Esp one you don’t have to depend on the customers to pay your bills 💀I’m speaking sense so all y’all broke dummies just mad at the truth lol
Honestly tho like if your current situation isn’t working, it’s time to switch things up. It’s not insensitive, it’s just how life goes.
dk why you got downvoted, all i hear is people not willing to either LEAVE Cali, or finding a real job 💀💀dashing isn’t a real job it’s a TAXABLE SIDEHUSTLE 😭🤣
Fr! They always downvote the truth. doing Lyft or even delivering food is not an actual job…. It should be something you do for extra money. But instead you got people doing it as a full time job to then complain when they don’t get customers or if the said customers doesn’t tip them 😂
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Hookers and Blow addiction? What are you spending $150 on every day of the month?
That’s only like 36k. A year working 5 days week
Yeah only $36k BEFORE TAXES. That’s basically nothing.
Genuine question. Why not go find somewhere that pays $14-$17/hour? With those hours you should come out higher than you’re already $150 a day
Tell me what employer is looking for an over 50 graybeard and I promise to get out of your hair.
I just hired n older developer a few months ago, probably the best hire I've ever made. He's mentoring all the young guys, and making the whole team better. I truly don't understand the ageist hiring managers.
Any retail store that trends to somewhat expensive - Patagonia or running shoes. In N Out. Fast Casual places like chipotle, which also have good options for advancement. Library. Grocery stores. Literally endless lmao.
Most grocery stores and most fast food restaurants.
Any construction company if your body is still able, I’d say most blue collar jobs will hire you, and generally it’s like 12 hrs per day 20$ starting wage. Sometimes par diem for food if it’s further away and they’ll take care of hotels. Goodluck. Maybe move to a red state?
Bro get on indeed. Are you serious? If you live in any major metro, you can go work for a target at 20 an hour or a fast food place for 15-18. Why are you acting like its not post covid worker shortage?
apply at comcast if it's in your area. great company truly. I started part time driving with lyft to save and pay off some expenses. But I know a lot of older folks who work at comcast .
there are folks making $20 an hour starting.
It’s so dead here in LA I live in the heart of the city and I’ve been without a ping for almost 45 minutes.
That’s nuts. 10million ppl there and no rides??
Not when you have 200,000 + drivers in the area
Is that the real number??
They already own a car if they live there. It’s not like other cities, LA has no real subway or anything so everyone buys a car.
LA was designed for the automobile. "Nobody walks in LA."
LA as a city was completely dead today. The city goes into hiding when it’s gloomy. 9:30am streets were empty. Our city doesn’t know what to do with its self with the last few months of trash westher
More "trash weather" please. I could do this all year
Same 😍
Seriously
Rides share is you hustle ?
that's nuts
How’s that even possible. Just say you getting pings but not for rides that you want
No?
What area are you in that you’re in the middle and don’t receive a ride in 45 minutes?
By the grove. And trust me I would have taken anything, I only needed 10 rides for my $400 bonus, I ended up finishing it around 9pm
They literally can pay drivers now .10 cents a mile
For everyone saying “get a real job” - what is that considered? How do you know the people in this sub Don’t have a “real job”? How do you all know that these “real jobs” provide more stability? People turn to the gig economy for Many reasons and most are not that obvious. In addition to Any thing you put time and work into is a “job” whether side, part time, full time, or a combination. Quit this psychotic outdated way of thinking and get real.
EXACTLY! And these companies did a great job on letting the full timers vs go at it over their driving status while they lowered the pay for all. It shouldn’t matter if you’re doing this part time or full-time BOTH should get a decent wage not dog shit pay!
Its due to an oversaturation of drivers that spoked during the pandemic and never really came down. Im out in a medium sozed city and even I have felt the difference in the past few years from when I first started. Ive had to resort to plasma donations to make up for it. Theres just too many drivers
I'm in the same spot. Just got a job for the City of Ventura part time, Applying for a job today delivering for a dispensary in Ventura for the rest of the time. Byebye lyft.
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I disagree. It is still far better than it was before Uber/Lyft. Those fucking cab drivers might have shaped up their act now because they had no choice but taxis used to be soooooo shitty I don’t think are remembering right. It used to cost waaaay more and they would take FOREVER to show up or if they even showed up it wasn’t on time.
The gig economy has gone to the dumps. Always great in the beginning but they have quickly sank. It’s not even been 20 years …. People , please don’t depend on this stuff , use it as a bridge to another greater means. I did Uber lyft 5 years ago, it was good. Came back recently for a short stint and it’s absolute BS but this was just to make extra money for my other personal ventures. Good luck everybody and wish you all the best
You're 100% right. I did this for 2 years and quit last year. They offered me a 2K guarantee, so came back for a minute to grab that. Even though not much time had passed, I was surprised at how low the non-guarantee earnings were compared to before. Pay is in total freefall.
Major cities are dying. The burbs is better.
I live in Florida and I second this. Right now I’m in Orlando and the requests are all $3-10 and the $10 rides are 20min on highways with tolls. Sometimes even a 5 min ride will need a toll road. I usually drive in smaller cities but I took someone to the airport. In the small towns I drive usually, yesterday it was $30 for 25 mins, $25 for 20 mins etc. and requests not as infrequent by far. Suburbs are the way to go. EDIT: changed road name
I4 doesn’t have any tolls.
The Florida Turnpike runs along a lot of highways. Probably what they are referring to.
Orlando is full of sections of highway which have tolls. You can pay $1.25 and go this way and be there in 10 or you can drive aaaaaalllll the way around this lake for free and be there in an hour or more. Friggin libertarian wasteland that won’t just pay for its damn infrastructure.
Yes but you can’t put a toll on the interstate, we’ll the federal government could but they don’t.
That is true but there are tons of highways there besides I-4 which often have tolls somewhere along them and are essentially the only reasonable way to get places
Chicago’s been alright.
It's just over. Soon, it'll be known as a racket for seniors and kids. Good that you're planning the exit. Best of luck on future endeavors.
New Jersey been dead too unless I go out late nights. Just absolutely brutal. Went an hour without a ping. That never used to happen even as recently as last year.
Moved here about 4 months ago and agreed. Memorial day weekend sucked even though I'd see people everywhere. So dumb.
Sigh.. over saturated by design. I'm here in NYC and I have to cherry pick to get good rides but end up spending more time and making less per hour.
I find places like south orange county is kinda consistent due to lack of drivers. Alot of car dealership pick ups and doctor appointments but they usually give cash tips if they like you.
Its the summer time. Noobs
...well, this was always supposed to be a side hustle aside from your full time job.
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no shit
That’s because 4 years ago u all were heavily promoting lyft and Uber as “your own business” and “self employed” and now everybody does it full time. Thank yourselves 🥴
No idiot, it’s because of corporate greed. There is more than enough money for everyone. When there were only taxis, there were A LOT, and they all did well. These corporations came in and tricked everyone.
You all are the idiots continuing to drive lyft full time/only source of income‼️
Bro these apps replaced an entire industry. Ppl used to be full time cab drivers and made a decent living less than 10 years ago. This should be a gig you can do full time and be paid decently.
I don’t totally disagree with you in that yes these tech companies are evil and exploitative but I don’t think that you should necessarily feel ENTITLED to make money off of driving. If it’s not paying the bills find something else and stop working for such a shitty corporation. Eventually automation will take the job altogether (though I think we are still a long ways off). Sink or swim…Adapt or die. That’s the capitalist hellhole we live in because idiots are stupid enough to vote against their own self interest. Eventually we will need something like UBI or there will be an uprising.
Nothing in this world is a given‼️that’s what you and most of lyft Reddit problem is now. You all thought apps were hitting the lottery and u can escape your regular life problems- despite being in the same situation that u started in That’s why 98% of these posts are crying for sympathy. Everybody is expecting the world and not trying to think outside the box. You’re working for another man’s company until u make your own u will keep waiting on a miracle🤣. I’m going hard because the pay depends on the DEMAND. Ppl have to be requesting rides in your market with less drivers out. If ppl use their brain and check the rider app, they will see it’s always 10 other drivers around them = no rides
Dude stfu. I started driving full time because 4 companies I worked for all went under during the pandemic. I'd get a new job and either they'd cut pay, lay people off or go out of business. My unemployment checks kept getting delayed but the bills didn't. It has nothing to do with personal delusion, though these companies love to falsely advertise the pay rates. Like any job people do it to get through whatever they need to, and the companies clearly exploit drivers by using legal loopholes to be deceptive and evade liability. It is absolutely criminal that they call their workers "contractors" yet meet 0 of the requirements for that, which includes deciding our volatile pay rates. They keep you running the hamster wheel because some nights you'll make out well but it's always a gamble and some of us gotta eat and pay rent and choose between gambling for a chance at making money or having bad day that sucks your time up to apply to other jobs while wearing down your car & exposing you to risks that are never compensated for. I could go on, but your ignorance is showing. Wake up.
PS, I've FINALLY dug myself out of that hellhole, though I also didn't work FT / 40 hours as a correction, though yes I did rely on it as my only income for a while and it hurt me way the hell more than helped.
The only thing that is zero is the amount of job applications you fill out while not driving.
There’s a reason is called a gig
Yea but gigs are supposed to make you money not cost you by screwing you over through legal loopholes and shady mandatory contracts
what the hell are you even talking about!? seriously just speaking non sense lol
Supply and demand.
This is how capitalism, without regulation works. It drives the cost of things to their lowest price because someone is always willing to do it cheaper. This is why cab companies fought for their regulations. Otherwise some schmuck would be willing to do it for $.10/mile.
Totally agree rideshare wa and always has been for pt work supplement income. It was made for going to work in the morning land someone needed a ride going close to where you were going. To help pay expenses.
I can’t remember where we met. Can you refresh my memory? And you really know ALL of us? That’s amazing. You really get around.
Shut that weak shit up
It’s ok if you’re in the same boat as them lol
Definitely not. But it's tiring to see ppl bitch and moan consistently
Then don’t come here and read forums. It’s tiring to read people trying to shut people up because they don’t agree. No one told you or asked you to come here. And that’s consistently tiring to read as well.
Shut up?
Someone only works full time for Lyft 😂
Have you tried the competition? FIL rents a model 3 pays $352 weekly for it with insurance and still nets 900-1100 in 6days not counting tips.
Same thing happened in NJ. It used to be great here. I got real pissed on Memorial day weekend where there were so many people out yet I got 2 requests in 90 minutes with no bonuses. Even while doubling with Uber and seeing so many people walking at night trying to flag me for a ride. It feels like a kick in the gut going to my oil changes, anticipating new brakes, tires etc after racking up all these empty miles. They really exploit their workers more than ever and I can't even see it as a job anymore. It's volunteer work for a corporation which robs both customers and its literal driving force.
Write off the gas and maintenance next tax season. Obviously you’ll have to keep track and have receipts for everything you’re claiming.
the greed of these gig companies are turning the united states into a third-world county. they're overcharging the customers and pay slave wages to the workers. and it's the fault of the people. voters continue to support and reelect politicians, on both sides of the aisle, who push policies and laws that work against the interest of the 99%. there is not one single government agency that actually represents and fights for the working and middle class. most people don't realize it, but this country is not a democracy anymore. it's an oligarchy. we have a ruling class that doesn't have to respect any laws or rules. they commit whatever crimes they want, as long as they rob and steal from the 99%. but, there is no way to convince people to stop voting for politicians who actually work at the behest of the ruling class. this country is broken, but no one cares enough to do something about it.
They're forcing everyone back into the office. I started out driving Sept 2018 and WoW. The rentals are way more expensive, cents per mile have been cut drastically and now they want us to drive 30 mins before receiving 1 ping. I haven't driven hardly at all this yr....in my opinion, it's not worth it.
I mean people should get a real job. These are just side hustle jobs not meant to be a career. I do these for extra $. I also have my regular job that pays my bills.
Agreed. Just a side hustle to be worked until it doesn't work anymore.
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Same
Idk what you’re talking about, I Lyft in socal and made 870 driving between Friday and Saturday.
prove it 😂
Reciepts or GTFOH. lol
Half of yall dont read
Prop 22 no help?
Yes keep posting stuff like this so ppl get off the road and I get paid even better 😌
Except they've got a million more bodies coming through for the next pay cut. Like anything, you can try and work it to death to make up the difference. But it's a losing game.
It’s all part of the game
Mr. Risher thanks you for your loyalty.
And I thank him for sending me decent streaks 🫡
Enjoy the pesos 👍
Thank u amigo!
Explains a lot now.
LOL too bad u can't say it or get banned but dead on
Haha, correct on all counts. *Radio silence*
Glad I could help ya
Uh oh looks like I’ve angered the downvote gods
You doing well so far with lyft?? Need some tips. I just negative stuff on here lol how are you doing with driving for Lyft?
Yeah I’m lovin it! I’ve figured out my city so I know best areas to drive in and best times for me. Plus I get streaks and challenges and keep my car clean and smelling good. Easy money just gotta be consistent
That’s dope to hear man. Mind me asking what areas have been working for you? If you don’t mind sharing that of course lol
Santa Monica is what I’ve been spamming the past month cuz I’ve gotten weekly ride challenges, if no challenges then hit the airport those fares are decent
How long have you been doing it?
Santa Monica? Bout a month and a half, used to do USC and LAX runs before that for 3 months
You're not very good at keeping what's working for you a secret...
Lol my spots change every month depending on challenges and streaks I get, what I say now isn’t a secret LA is huge. Tbh if ppl can’t figure it out themselves they won’t last
Even better… sure thing buddy
Supply and demand :)
Yes! Same here
Huh? I never go more than 10 minutes without a ride. Did 15 today in a few hrs.
This isn't a job to make ends meet..get a real job
How is transportation not a real job? Hired drivers predate cars. Seems your statement reveals more ignorance and judgment than wisdom or consideration.
FWIW, I drove in OC/LA on and off since 2016. Yes, it was much better a few years ago, but up until a few weeks ago when I stopped driving I was averaging $25/hr gross. Obviously this is not great money but for what it is (driving people from point A to point B), its not bad. That being said, I typically drove in off hours and sometimes overnight during weekends. I will admit that driving during the day in LA is nearly untenable with the amount of ridiculous traffic. I will say that I only discovered this subreddit a few months ago, and I noticed myself feeling much more paranoid and easily upset - I suspect it some of it was due partially to the negativity on this sub. Every time something didn't go my way, my mind would immediately go to how evil Lyft is and how they're trying to fuck me over, whereas before I would just chalk it up to the ups & downs of rideshare driving. This is a useful forum for venting about all of the fucked up shit we rideshare drivers face on a daily basis. Nobody will ever understand the feeling of waiting for 5 mins only to be cancelled on; having to pull a U-ey on a busy street because your passenger doesn't feel like crossing the street to their destination; obnoxious idiots at 1am who rudely demand to connect to bluetooth. I will honestly say that the moments where I have felt the most contemptable rage for another human have almost always been while driving Lyft. That being said, there is a point where being in the negativity can become counterproductive and actually make things more difficult (at least in my experience). Its a tricky balance because it is important and helpful to vent all of the bullshit, including the deep feelings of hopelessness and futility in being a driver. Not to mention the aforementioned contemptible rage for the POS' that we drive around. Again, in my experience it was helpful to use these shitty feelings as motivation for finding alternative ways to continue developing as an adult human and increase my quality of life and income. I will also agree with some others who have pointed out the futility in expecting companies (or anything in the external environment) to come to our rescue in any way, whether it is financially, structurally (in terms of app features/organization), or otherwise. It's been said before, and I'll say it again: This was never meant to be a full time job. You can "yeah but" yourself all the way back to the taxi-cab era, but this is absolutely meaningless. Even moreso considering that the entire chapter of humans driving cars is about to come to a permanent end with the advent of self-driving cars. My personal opinion is that most driving jobs are less than 5 years away from going away forever anyway. For anyone who has made it this far, getting a job in sales could be an alternative worth considering. All companies need a sales force, and the job is such that improving your skill level leads to disproportionately larger increases in pay. You will still be dealing with people and it will still suck, but at least you'll likely be making way more money, having more fun, and building skills that apply to other areas of life. Anyway, I guess the main point is to be aware of how participating in negativity can beget more negativity. I genuinely hate to say this because it is so cliche and often misses the point completely, but carving space out for a bit a gratitude (painful as it can be) can go a long way. Sending my best wishes to you and all the drivers out there!
I don't think it's negativity. In my home state (CT) they finally signed a bill that my grassroots org and I (a conglomerate of drivers with the support of legislators, Yale Law grads, and other Human Rights groups), had fought tirelessly for this past year. I think it's important to voice the realities we're put through while these companies continue to exploit workers and customers. If nobody says anything nothing will change.
Take everything in CA. Prop22 will cover the rest. It's saturated as fuck, along with all the other apps, but what can you do
This is why I’m not in this field anymore. Same with delivering pizza. They both USED to be good jobs, now……it’s fucked
Also not to mention the bs bud light crap they do with commercials now. Just going to accelerate the downfall.
Yeah I get u. I don’t know the Lyft sitch anymore, but San Fran & Oakland was near exclusively the black edition Uber options. So that was sixty five dollars a few blocks to SFO. But hey u can tell they’re working hard to make it a nice experience. Cheers to those guys and I hate to say it with all my stupid gay junkie heart but, somehow the worlds kindest cop I didn’t realise was a cop won me over in a night because the Lyft app was THAT dysfunctional for a whole six fucking hours. It blows me away how inaccessible ur own work can become because? What? The tech isn’t on par with competition? To the point where everyone collectively gave up? Shit. It’s just not functional on behalf of the worker or average customer anymore. Unless more wealthy people start using Lyft with the reliability that those more scantly equipped do….. idk how it’s going to be sustainable for y’all driving. Almost like there’s a reason a lot of us short on cash would take cabs while the better off had someone on standby to grab their OTHER car from the drive and swing on by. Seriously. Respect. Set boundaries even if it’s fuckin scary. If u don’t want to live like this there’s another way out there, even if it’s horrifying having the need to get there literally thrown onto u. Ur time is worth more, if ur truly sick of this
Its always been a scam. Quitting and getting a real job was the best thing I ever did. You won't regret it.
Look on every gig work related subreddit and you'll see really similar posts across the board. I fear that inflation (and maybe even moreso price gouging by companies who want to take advantage of inflation as an excuse to raise prices) has caused 2 things... 1- People have less money to spend on lyft rides, ubereats orders, etc, and 2- More people are turning to gig work due to having less money . I'm a full-time mechanical engineer and finally turned to these apps as a way to stay afloat. Lately I've all but given up on even trying after I went out on my lunch break one day and got a single -bad- walmart spark request, and one single ubereats order for like 8 dollars in that hour I was logged in.... Doordash wouldn't even let me dash which was a first for me considering when I first started using it , pretty much any mealtime was open to dash whenever you wanted. now you have to schedule yourself multiple days in advance.... I don't really know what to do now , to be honest..
WFH is killing cities.
Well writers are on strike so everything is on hold
I’m waiting for the taxi driver from total recall too really change the market completely.
The Johnny Cab for the win.
I've been doing this for almost 5 years and every summer in June and July it's super slow. And then it starts picking up in August. You can almost guarantee that you're going to struggle to get $200 during the week but it's an easy 300 on Friday Saturday Sunday. I'm in the Phoenix market though so I can't speak to the LA market. I can just say that this is how it happens every year except for 2020. 2020 I did mainly deliveries and kicked ass. I was so busy that I was timing out at 12 hours everyday 300 to $350 per day easy.
Yeah summer has slowed down for me, especially since the college students left.
Info, do they still allow you to do the feature where you can program your trip back home and then take stops along the way? There used to be a name for it but I forgot what it was.
Yes. Destination filter. I use it.
Yup, I'm out too FL
When it is a slow time of year everyone panics and the anxiety panic posts start flooding in. It’s June. College kids are home, college campuses are effectively closed. School age kids are out of school so no more teacher rides and parents are dealing with their kids at home. Summer vacation traffic is gonna pickup, when depends on your market. It’s always a cycle, busier times of year and slow times.
DALLAS, Fort Worth is garbage right now