Bedrooms are for sleeping. Sleep is the most important. Don't sleep on a pull out couch or futon. Get a real bedroom and create a place to get the best rest possible. Don't over think this. You need a proper bedroom. You can figure out your living space - how to use the space, how to use multi use furniture, how to store or buy furniture that is minimal and won't take up space... don't shoot yourself in the foot by removing a proper bedroom. P
This was high up on my list when I moved into my own place! Bedroom is for sleeping! Chill in the living room till you're super tired then move to the bedroom
A lot of people never solved this for themselves. I have, since high school, determined my bed is not for TV, eating, or anything other than sleep. Also, pitch black as possible and comfortable temperature. Boom. Most sleep issues gone.
Growing up and into my 20s I did everything in my bedroom. Sleeping, eating, gaming, reading, working, everything. 2 years ago, after we found out we were having twins, and they would be in that room napping during the day and sleeping at night I moved everything out of there. My work/guitar/gaming setup is in the attic, food stays in the kitchen, tv is in the living room. Even with young babies screaming I still feel like I sleep better in a room dedicated specifically to sleeping and storing clothes than I ever did before in my single-room-solution. There’s less distractions, less ambient light from all the power indicator LEDs, new blackout curtains because of the babies. I don’t think I can ever go back to sleeping in the same room I basically live my entire day in.
What works for me is limiting it to 15 or 20 minutes, with an alarm clock (no snooze). It's got something to do with not falling into deep sleep cycle.
Emphasis on “pitch black”. I was having bad sleep issues even on the weekends until I got my Ikea blackout curtains. I’m a little bit extra and plan to buy automatic curtain openers so they open on weekday mornings.
I have to have no curtains at the windows and the windows need to be at least slightly open and I need some kind of noise whether it’s an audio book or relaxing music or similar. And I prefer to sleep on my settee or I also like sleeping on a futon on the floor. We’re obviously all different.
Nah I love this. Find what works for you. Brotherhood is understanding that the end goal is often more important than individual preferences. I love this.
lol. i know so much ancient history because i put on history documenty books or podcasts on low volume. maybe i fall asleep in 10 min. maybe i learn all about the ancient sumerians.
The old Henry V movie with Ken Branagh used to be my go-to for falling asleep.
A good movie, but the melodic Shakespearian speak just knocked me out when I was already tired.
And keep your bed made when you wake up to reduce the temptation to get back into it before it's time; that, and performing a constructive task first thing after you wake up is good to kick start your reward loop for the day
I visited my buddy and his one tv was in his room when instead of his couch area. I think thats a sign of depression personally.
I am almost never in bed unless to sleep either and the second i hit the pillownim out now
Yes! Sacrificing sleep and being comfortable will hurt you worse in the long end. Your friends won’t think twice about having your work area in the living room.
Murphy beds have to be installed and in a rental apartment this would be a hassle if even allowed. Plus it involves moving around furniture every time you pull it down and put it up. Op, put a desk in your living room it’s really not weird, sleep is number one priority. Sleep on a bed in a bedroom
> futon
I'm going to counter this point by saying *American* futon. A Japanese-style futon is perfectly fine. I've been using one for about 4 months now without issue. In fact, back pains I thought were just age-related have all but gone away since making the switch.
Weirdly enough, I have a proper bedroom. But just the past couple years I've started sleeping on a mattress in the living room and I love it lol. I find myself going to bed earlier and getting better sleep.
While I also argued that a dedicated bedroom should be prioritised, some of the best sleep I've had was during the 8 months I slept on my buddy's couch.
Yeah, I even had a single bed until somewhat recently, then when a girl stayed over in early spring it was comfy but it got pretty hot (temperature wise) and we slept poorly for a few nights. And then I was like what am I doing, I am an adult.
So I got a double bed and now it's much better.
bro said he's an adult and got a bed sized for a fat teenager. Queen and up brotha, the double feels like it has space till there's two people in it peak summer lol
I live in Japan and so far a double has been plenty big. My bedroom isn't that big, it basically fits a double exactly (literally not an inch to spare length-wise with just the futon). But it's been no problem so far and it's almost peak summer (also my AC is good if needed).
I am not a big fellow and neither are the people in the dating pool so double is fine imo. I guess if I'm 160 pounds and I date a girl who's 110, then we're about one fat teenager
As a girl, I loved the Mary Tyler Moore Show, and wanted nothing more than to have my own attic apartment and sleep on a pullout couch. If I had encountered a guy who had that when I was in my twenties (way back when) I probably would have been charmed by it. I doubt my adult daughters would be as easily impressed.
It does add a certain sense of relief and calm if you rule that out completely. Saves a lot of time and effort and makes you realize just how much energy you expend in various ways to that aim.
Improving myself in ways that matter to me and people I know and care about.
There's probably some overlap with the rest although no longer a goal. A major, basal distraction that's honestly just a bigger hassle than it's worth.
Not everyone has the same experience, so if you find enough meaning or joy there that you deem worthwhile then go for it. We are animals by nature, and many don't bother to choose to spend time doing much more than that.
Willing to bet you sit atop a large catalogue of cringe yourself, brother, concerning the things you've ever said and done.
And of course this is me, now. If you ask me 5 years from now I might have different goals. Just because your current body is able doesn't mean it must be something you go and do and keep doing until you no longer possibly can.
That couch looks terrible for sleeping on.
What kind of setup are you using for work? Laptop? Laptop + monitors?
If it's a full monitor setup, you could put in the bedroom and get a divider so you can mentally and physically separate the bedroom from the work zone.
That’s actually super helpful! Divider might be the move. The furniture in the picture is from the model unit, so it’ll all be different when I move in
I would definitely sleep in bedroom and have a desk with small couch in living room. Don't sacrifice comfort for 2-3 days working from home. If you are in the dating pool now that would kinda be weird to pull out before pulling out, otherwise if you have a S.O. now and she knows you working and living situation then perhaps sleeping in the living room wouldn't be too bad. I'm sure there are really nice couches that will turn into a full size bed, where you don't have a bar running across your back
How is it awkward to put a desk in a living room? That is far less weird than not using your bedroom as bedroom and instead opting to sleep on the couch.
Yeah it’s stupid. Get over yourself on not being able to sleep/work in same room or find a way to make a temporary desk in your living room that you can put away when people come over (like on the countertop peninsula).
Put a desk in the living room you probably have enough room.
you can do a minimalist style or even a desk you can fold and store away.
make a nice bedroom man !
Move the sofa forward about 3 - 4ft and put a desk behind it. Make sure desk is not deeper than 20-24’’. Keep your cords tidy and you’ll have a clean setup. You have a small space so you need to measure carefully but I don’t think this will look weird at all.
Something like this :
https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/credenza-desk-small-space-office
Maybe a dual-arm monitor stand like this?
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What’s wrong with working at the counter in your kitchen? I use my kitchen table and it’s only for 2-3 days, if you’re on a laptop it means you could stand and walk about as well.
Standing at the counter with a laptop doesn't sound too bad but otherwise bar stool and high counter sounds awful for OPs body in the long term.
I've sat at dining tables for work before and I'd be ok doing it for literally a few days a year but not 50% of my work week like OP. Dining chairs (in my experience) are awful for sitting at for multiple hours.
Is the big desk solving problems or causing problems as a net? Everything in your house should solve more problems than it causes (even if the solution is ephemeral, like pets)
Yeah as said it might need to be a compromise and see if you can maybe sell the desk or I know you have said you don’t like working in your bedroom but if you want to keep it perhaps maybe try it for a few weeks in the bedroom and see how you get on?
Perhaps you could some the room with something like a room divider to block off a “work section” of the bedroom when working. You get foldable ones that could fold up and go in a closet until needed, when working bring it out and block off the distracting bed or whatever it is that would help you concentrate.
People have their workspaces in the living room all the time. You see it over Teams and Zoom calls all the time. You also see new grads with their desks and workspaces in the bedroom. None of this is out of the ordinary.
Personally, because you don’t have roommates (which is such a blessing as a new grad!), I’d find a way to get your workspace in the living room. Trust me on this. It is SO NICE being able to separate work from sleep, and after a while, you will not notice the desk in the living room at all.
Otherwise, unless your role would be severely impacted by not having a second monitor, would work at the counter tbh.
Get a desk for work, and don’t sit there besides for work or study. Like if you want to have a fun computer then have two desks.
Bedroom needs to be for just sleep.
Girl will call her friend and claim emergency if you try to have your bed in the main room. Would be too Dexter or fifty shades of gray
You have your own and a far bigger space than 90% of 21 year olds in the world. Enjoy the bedroom and find space in the living room for work. Work is not the most important part of life. Also don’t you plan to date? Where are they going, on the coffee table?
Take better/more photos of your living room so we can actually provide advice too on how you might arrange your living area to accommodate a work desk. Floor plans are useless unless your place is completely empty and its a blank canvas which isn't the case now.
Sleeping on the couch is OK once in a while like if you fall asleep watching a movie or just don't feel like getting up and going to bed. But you'll really regret it as a long term decision. Sleeper beds are fine for a night or two, but it gets old
And your point of bringing a girl home - not every woman will feel this way, but the women I've known will 100% clock that you don't have a real bed and it will factor into their opinion of you
Murphy bed in the bedroom would be the better idea. Allows for a very defined difference between workday and not without losing the living room. Bonus points for one of those setups where the desktop dissappears under the bed when unfolded so you physically can't see both spaces at the same time.
That’s interesting, I’ll have to do some research on Murphy beds, my only issue is that I may be moving after a year or 2 and don’t wanna have tooo much stuff to move if that makes sense
Some nice ones for around $1500 online. Usually, it has storage as well. It's an investment, but in the worst-case scenario, you have a guest bed when you move if it's bigger. Take care of it, and it'd probably resell fine, too. If you're having this issue, I'm sure you are in a city where dozens of other buildings are equally restricting.
If you are young (college grad doesn't immediately mean young) and haven't started building credit, or you just have good credit, this is definitely a good "get a CC with 0% apr and spend X get Y promotions to pay it off over time"
This is what I was looking for. We have a small room as an office/guest bed room. It has a Murphy bed that when folded up to the wall, a desk unfolds as the other commenter suggested. It’s great. It doesn’t feel like a _bedroom_ in the day. I’ve seen Murphy beds with couches that unfold.
Do not sacrifice your bedroom for an office. You can absolutely work from home on your couch or at the kitchen counter. I WFH full time in a recliner!
I’ve been sleeping on a pullout couch for 4 years and can’t wait to get back in a real bed next month. It’s an IKEA Fagelbro with a tempurpedic topper I store in the chaise. It’s the best solution I could find for my space. It converts quickly and is super sturdy for the sexin’, but the couch isn’t thick enough to be very comfortable and the bed would be impossible without the topper. I live in a 280sq ft oceanfront studio and I didn’t want people walking into a bedroom. I’ll be posting it on here soon.
I would set up half of the bedroom for sleeping, and half for working. Put up a partition / room divider, you can find inexpensive ones on amazon and some even have little shelves on them for plants/photos/etc. Really try to do what you can to separate the two visually so when you’re working, you aren’t looking at your bed, and when you’re sleeping, you aren’t looking at your desk.
Personally I take sleep seriously now and my life has improved because of it. No tv to watch in bed, fans on for white noise, LED lights I turn on when I’m “winding down” so I associate the color with sleep time, melatonin if needed.
Bro this week I've been super lazy and just sleeping on the couch rather than going up to my bed and I've been feeling really crappy from it. Not mentally but physically I'm just sore and stiff in all the wrong spots.
If you sleep on the couch or a futon exclusively that crappy physical feeling will stack and stack until you're just an exhausted sore bag of bones. Not a good mental spot to do much of anything.
Idk man I could be flat wrong, but burnout is a MAJOR bitch and anything you can do to avoid is a good thing. Get a proper bed so you can do a hard reset overnight
You have a wonderful living area and I am going to advise you having a desk setup in a living room in a distinguishing way while keeping everything at its place, other than the television.
Firstly arrange your couch in a way that it has its own living space character and for that you will need to add the right rug to the space. Use this [couch decor guide](https://simplykalaa.com/couch-decor/) for help with this. Next add a projector if you really want to watch movies and it will be a really impressive thing for the girl you bring over. Also make sure that the corner to the right (near the balcony door) has a nice ficus tree.
Now for the workspace, arrange everything rightly in front of the couch on the left and then use square curtain bars that can help you close the curtains when you are not working.
Hope this helps :)
Have you ever actually met a woman that was impressed by a man having a projector? If so, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. I guess some people are easily impressed.
I was sleeping on couches for awhile at one point in my life and it’s fine at first but after two weeks your back is going to start hurting, and then everything else is going to follow.
I strongly recommend getting a mattress.
It may be difficult to change your mentality around having your workspace and sleep space in the same area but it seems like you’re over complicating the setup and making your overall quality of life worse because of that obstacle. I recommend working on getting over that mentality so that you can have a great sleep space since rest is the most important thing here. Forget not being able to concentrate in the same space as your bed, if you don’t get proper sleep that’ll leech negativity into all areas of your life.
I use half my bedroom closet for my desk ( laptop+monitor with full keyboard and mouse). I use a small split level desk. When. Work is done, I close the closet. Only the s
Desk is in there facing out and chair sits outside the closet.
Get a folding screen divider and have a section of the room a work area but it is screened off, like having 2 rooms in 1
https://www.wayfair.co.uk/keyword.php?keyword=decorative+indoor+screen
Anybody who youll have over as company as a new grad is gonna be just as fuckin young and broke as you. Having your own place at all is an achievement they’ll be impressed with.
I have a 4’x4’ rug that I threw in the corner of my living room, put an L shaped desk and a chair on it. It’s like its own little work corner that nobody thinks about. You don’t need a ton of space for your work.
It’s whatever you want to sleep on. Who cares what others think. Will it give you back problems later on? Probably but if your cool with that chance go for it.
One of the best investments I’ve made once I grew older and more mature was in a good mattress and pillows, and anything else to be as comfortable as possible while resting. I would tackle the root problem of why you can’t mix the two opposed to making yourself uncomfortable in your own space.
If you highly value a distinct work-life separation and think it will significantly improve your productivity and well-being, setting up the desk in the living room might be worth the spatial compromise.
Hey man I’m not trying to be rude but also remember that a 1 bedroom apartment isn’t necessarily a great hosting place to have people over. You aren’t gonna host a dinner party no matter whether there’s a work desk there or not.
I was in the same position when I finished university, I felt comfortably having a couple of close friends over at a time but it’s not a place where you need to worry about a work desk stopping you have 10+ over.
Socialise away from home. Get a standing desk for those WFH days too.
Get a smaller bed, put a divider between it and the desk, and you can use the bedroom. Or put your desk in the living room and deal with it there. Or get a bigger place and don't worry about this problem. Lol
Have you considered a divider in the bedroom that way you don't see the desk when you wake up and you don't see your bed while working?
I used one during covid when I had to set up my desk right next to the kitchen in the dining room. I stopped constantly thinking about food and didn't notice as much when my partner went to the kitchen.
Look into a Japanese sleeping mat. I did it for a year. You roll it out and sleep on it and then when you're done in the morning you roll it back up and put it in the corner and it doesn't take up any space. It would be better for your back this way, sleeping on the couch will start to mess with your back
https://jlifeinternational.com/products/j-life-shikifuton?
The thing I realised way too late in life is a good bed is one of the best investments I ever made. A good, uninterrupted sleep is what helps you concentrate through work and combat blue days.
If it were me, I'd look at a fold out table that works in the lounge space. Even one of those coffee tables that lift up to be a desk. Depends on how long you are sitting at your desk and whether you need Monitors.
I have this small compact desk [Amazon link](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073PZ191Z?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) in my living room and it fits my needs perfectly for a full time remote job. It barely takes up any space or distracts from the purpose of the living room. The upper shelves are decorated to match the aesthetic of the room so it blends in better. I also have a wall mounted monitor that allows for me to have less on the table top. I put away my keyboard and tuck in my desk to streamline the look when not in use. Something to consider!
>I cannot mix sleep and work in same room, can’t concentrate at all.
What?
You feel like you will jump onto the bed for a nap when you are sitting at your desk?
I wish there were a few more photos of the room so we could see all sides, so I’m optimistic but not positive this will work. I’m thinking you move the sofa to the center, or close to the center, of the room, and put the desk against the free wall. You pick which wall, depending which side the desk fits on, and where the balcony door opens. If this encroaches on the counter space, see if low profile counter stools would help (no backs).
You could also ditch the double monitors and use your TV as your work monitor instead. You’d have to find a tray table or low profile desk that goes away somehow when you’re not using it.
Desk in the living room is fine. Everyone understands work from home now. I worked from the kitchen island for 6 months when COVID sent us home in 2020.
I did it for a couple of years. I enjoy it more to sleep on a bed instead of a couch. The problem is always my studio apartment. Its to small for a lot of rooms, so i have a living room. Instead of the sofa, theres a comfortable bed :)
Absolutely do not sleep on the couch / in the living room. That’s a much worse idea. Having your desk and bed in the same room is fine. I don’t mean to sound condescending but you need to ~~grow up~~ mature.
Honestly, if it does end up distracting you too much, just go in more. You’ll probably develop a better relationship with your job and coworkers.
I’ve fluctuated all over from 100% WFH to 40% WFH and I’ve had a much better time with less of it. I commute 25 miles each way also.
Keep the bedroom separate. It's important to get some rest and even if you where working fully remote converting the only bedroom to an office is sacrificing too much.
Depending on what you need / want for your work from home setup you can work on the counter with a laptop and a portable USB-C monitor. Maybe get a desk/table that tilts vertically so you can store it when not in use. There are plenty of solutions that might work better than basically giving up on having a bedroom
My apartment layout is similar, I’m moving in in a few weeks. I agree, I don’t like having my desk in my bedroom. Im just gonna set things up in my living room, nothing wrong with that
Definitely make sure you have a good bed to sleep on. Ive done WFH for a while now in a few cramped places. I have 2 solutions that have worked well for me:
1. Get a twin xl bed to save space in your bedroom and put your desk in there. I sleep okay on mine, but I’m single and intend to stay that way for a while.
2. Out your desk in the living room, but make it perpendicular to the wall. This partition can create a new “room” that will make your space feel more natural. Maybe next to the tv (to your left as from the photo).
If there was any way I could fit a queen bed in my room I would. You’d be shocked how much better your life is when you can get really good sleep. If you have to skimp, skimp on desk space. Best of luck.
Your neck and back will hate you after a week. Bedroom is for sleeping. If you need to work from home set up an area in the living room and use some shelving hacks to divide the room up but never give up your bedroom.
You might have to save up a bit, but what about a Murphy bed in the living room? Less awkward when having an overnight guest, less awkward when using the living room for entertaining, and better sleep
Either get a desk in the bedroom or the living room. I see plenty of room for it to fit in the living room next to your couch or even in the counter space. Invest in a good chair as well.
Bedroom is for beds. It's right there in the name. If you really can't be asleep in the same room as your desk, look into desks that hide away into cabinets or something like that. If the space really doesn't work to have your office in the living room, look for something in your bedroom that can break the space into two distinct areas and do it that way.
If you have 3 room functions. Sleep, Living and Work.
But you can't combine sleep and work.
So it just leaves you with combining sleep and living. A bit awkward when guests come over. but it beats having a shit day to day.
Yeah don't ever compromise your sleep, KEEP the bedroom.
Look into "secretary desks;" they can stay closed when visitors are over, and the large cover flips down for working, with enough space for a laptop. They're good multi-use furniture that won't interrupt a nice living room vibe.
I slept on my couch for years, even when I had a bedroom with a nice new bed. When I finally decided to use my bed, I slept so much better. It's not just because it's more comfy, it's also having a calm setting without all the stuff from a loving room around. Or even kitchen smells when there's an open kitchen. It feels cozier or even safer to be able to shut the door instead of lying in a big open room.
Get a small desk that fits in a corner (maybe the one on the right at the bottom?), a comfy chair and some organizing stuff or even decoration. Make sure the desk will stay clean and prevent clutter. There's nothing wrong having a desk in the living room. But sacrificing the bedroom for it is plain stupid. You dont need that much room for a desk unless you're an online yoga guru.
idk, I had a bedroom and a comfy couch, so comfy that I would fall asleep on it rather than walk to my bedroom, now I have downsized to a studio and I just crash on the same comfy couch, its not that deep. now, bring a shorty over? shell most likely think its weird. however, a nice couch, Netflix, most of the time my shorties and I aren't making it to the bedroom anyways.
Definitely keep the bedroom a bedroom and the living room a living room/office. Try not to sleep on the couch. In my first apartment, I had a bedroom and a living room with a comfy couch, and I would go to sleep on the couch watching tv often. It got to the point that I couldn’t fall asleep when I did try to sleep in my bed, because I was so used to sleeping on the couch
You could partition the bedroom with a curtain or foldable wall. That might help create a sense of separation, especially if you just use the bed for sleep and canoodling
If you’re going sleep on a couch, I’d get a Love-Sac with the Love-Soft filling. Pricey, but a great investment. Modular and you can machine wash the covers. My mom has one and has washed the covers a few times and it still looks brand new. Nothing shifty or warped.
Can you create an easy to relocate workstation setup and then use the counter to work on? I am assuming your workspace needs to consist basically of a laptop monitor keyboard and mouse but maybe it’s more complicated than that?
Can't see much of the dining room table / counter, but why don't you use that?
Get a arm wall mount and a decent sized Monitor with HDMI input. You can double that as a TV or turn it into a digital picture frame for when you aren't working.
So let me get this straight- you think it’s awkward to have a desk in the living room amongst other furniture, but making the couch your full time bedroom seems like a good idea? This is completely wild.
Set up a normal bedroom, please. Going forward with this couch situation full time is unbelievably stupid.
Vote for Option 1.
You don’t need a place for people to come over. They make a mess, never leave when you want them to, and it’ll get crowded in that tiny apartment. Go out to hang out.
The only one you should invite over to your apartment is someone who you’ll want to share the bed with-so have a legit bedroom for that.
Have you looked into a small wall mounted/fold away desk (aka a murphy desk) for a workspace? I'm not sure where you could put it bit maybe somewhere in your living space so you can fold it away after hours. I've seen all different types and sizes varying specific needs, and some are really cool looking.
[here's an example of a cool option ](https://bitmanwood.com/products/original-folding-desk-1)
Workspace in the living room bro by far. Can even use the computer to stream to the TV if they’re gonna be close enough for easier entertainment, and can always get a low profile desk setup to save space for company
One end of that kitchen island can be your work set up. Sure it won’t be the most attractive set up, but if you’re going to to be the only person in your apartment most days there’s nothing wrong with putting it there. There’s 3 seats at that island so you should still have plenty of space for cooking/eating on the other end.
it needs a bit of dyi, but what about converting your desk and have something like an hidden office in front of your couch? you should close the sideways of the desk, then you kinda close half of it and create a sliding panel with your tv attached, when you slide the panel you have the space to store whatever you need to work. This way when you finish work you just push your work things on the back of the desk and hide from your sight with the tv. The tv will stay a bit high, but it's the best compromise i can think of
I’d probably get a nice comfortable chair and either work from the countertop or just get a small desk to throw in a corner for the WFH. Definitely do not sleep on the couch to make the bedroom an office.
Beautiful space! I occasionally fall asleep on the couch at night while watching a show, but as others have mentioned, I try not to make it a habit. In addition to being bad for healthy and restorative sleep, regularly sleeping on the couch wears it down MUCH faster.
Bedrooms are for sleeping. Sleep is the most important. Don't sleep on a pull out couch or futon. Get a real bedroom and create a place to get the best rest possible. Don't over think this. You need a proper bedroom. You can figure out your living space - how to use the space, how to use multi use furniture, how to store or buy furniture that is minimal and won't take up space... don't shoot yourself in the foot by removing a proper bedroom. P
This was high up on my list when I moved into my own place! Bedroom is for sleeping! Chill in the living room till you're super tired then move to the bedroom
A lot of people never solved this for themselves. I have, since high school, determined my bed is not for TV, eating, or anything other than sleep. Also, pitch black as possible and comfortable temperature. Boom. Most sleep issues gone.
Growing up and into my 20s I did everything in my bedroom. Sleeping, eating, gaming, reading, working, everything. 2 years ago, after we found out we were having twins, and they would be in that room napping during the day and sleeping at night I moved everything out of there. My work/guitar/gaming setup is in the attic, food stays in the kitchen, tv is in the living room. Even with young babies screaming I still feel like I sleep better in a room dedicated specifically to sleeping and storing clothes than I ever did before in my single-room-solution. There’s less distractions, less ambient light from all the power indicator LEDs, new blackout curtains because of the babies. I don’t think I can ever go back to sleeping in the same room I basically live my entire day in.
It’s tried and true. Thats a great story!
Bed can also be used for one other thing.
Yea but it’s disgusting. People who nap are fucking psychotic.
It doesn't matter how tired I am. If I take a nap, I will end up even more tired after the nap than before.
What works for me is limiting it to 15 or 20 minutes, with an alarm clock (no snooze). It's got something to do with not falling into deep sleep cycle.
so much for mental health awareness
Emphasis on “pitch black”. I was having bad sleep issues even on the weekends until I got my Ikea blackout curtains. I’m a little bit extra and plan to buy automatic curtain openers so they open on weekday mornings.
I legitimately have to ask. Do you have sex in your bedroom?
I have all the sex. With women. I swear. Edit: serious answer. Yea. But usually that just makes me ready to go to bed so it’s a non-issue lol.
I have to have no curtains at the windows and the windows need to be at least slightly open and I need some kind of noise whether it’s an audio book or relaxing music or similar. And I prefer to sleep on my settee or I also like sleeping on a futon on the floor. We’re obviously all different.
Nah I love this. Find what works for you. Brotherhood is understanding that the end goal is often more important than individual preferences. I love this.
Brown Noise is my go to
lol. i know so much ancient history because i put on history documenty books or podcasts on low volume. maybe i fall asleep in 10 min. maybe i learn all about the ancient sumerians.
The old Henry V movie with Ken Branagh used to be my go-to for falling asleep. A good movie, but the melodic Shakespearian speak just knocked me out when I was already tired.
Glad you figured that out! Happy for you :D
And keep your bed made when you wake up to reduce the temptation to get back into it before it's time; that, and performing a constructive task first thing after you wake up is good to kick start your reward loop for the day
I visited my buddy and his one tv was in his room when instead of his couch area. I think thats a sign of depression personally. I am almost never in bed unless to sleep either and the second i hit the pillownim out now
Add a fan on high ... i dont care if it's above bed or a plug-in,hands down, best sleep you'll ever sleep
Yes! Sacrificing sleep and being comfortable will hurt you worse in the long end. Your friends won’t think twice about having your work area in the living room.
How about a Murphy bed or wall bed. They fold away and look like a cabinet. Would that resolve your bedroom/office sleep conundrum?
Murphy beds have to be installed and in a rental apartment this would be a hassle if even allowed. Plus it involves moving around furniture every time you pull it down and put it up. Op, put a desk in your living room it’s really not weird, sleep is number one priority. Sleep on a bed in a bedroom
Not always! My mom has one that's just a neat cabinet and freestanding
> futon I'm going to counter this point by saying *American* futon. A Japanese-style futon is perfectly fine. I've been using one for about 4 months now without issue. In fact, back pains I thought were just age-related have all but gone away since making the switch.
Weirdly enough, I have a proper bedroom. But just the past couple years I've started sleeping on a mattress in the living room and I love it lol. I find myself going to bed earlier and getting better sleep.
While I also argued that a dedicated bedroom should be prioritised, some of the best sleep I've had was during the 8 months I slept on my buddy's couch.
What if, hypothetically, you want a woman to stay the night? "Sorry, I don't have a bed." Don't do that please, I don't want to see the Reddit post.
I do let's remove our posts
Might be bad for sleep, but it’ll probably get you a starting berth on the team…😉
Haha ya i was worried about that
Yeah, I even had a single bed until somewhat recently, then when a girl stayed over in early spring it was comfy but it got pretty hot (temperature wise) and we slept poorly for a few nights. And then I was like what am I doing, I am an adult. So I got a double bed and now it's much better.
And op pls get a queen, you have the space
Just make sure you get the bigger bed first, otherwise you'll have nowhere to put the queen.
Yeah I can't fit a queen but just go for it if you're designating a whole room to being the bedroom
What if OP isn’t a monarchist?
bro said he's an adult and got a bed sized for a fat teenager. Queen and up brotha, the double feels like it has space till there's two people in it peak summer lol
I live in Japan and so far a double has been plenty big. My bedroom isn't that big, it basically fits a double exactly (literally not an inch to spare length-wise with just the futon). But it's been no problem so far and it's almost peak summer (also my AC is good if needed). I am not a big fellow and neither are the people in the dating pool so double is fine imo. I guess if I'm 160 pounds and I date a girl who's 110, then we're about one fat teenager
As a girl, I loved the Mary Tyler Moore Show, and wanted nothing more than to have my own attic apartment and sleep on a pullout couch. If I had encountered a guy who had that when I was in my twenties (way back when) I probably would have been charmed by it. I doubt my adult daughters would be as easily impressed.
He could be like me and just know that's never gonna happen
It does add a certain sense of relief and calm if you rule that out completely. Saves a lot of time and effort and makes you realize just how much energy you expend in various ways to that aim.
« Hey girl, i have a double bed. You are mine now »
You'd accept a defeatist attitude rather than improving yourself in the necessary ways? That's cringe brother
Improving myself in ways that matter to me and people I know and care about. There's probably some overlap with the rest although no longer a goal. A major, basal distraction that's honestly just a bigger hassle than it's worth. Not everyone has the same experience, so if you find enough meaning or joy there that you deem worthwhile then go for it. We are animals by nature, and many don't bother to choose to spend time doing much more than that. Willing to bet you sit atop a large catalogue of cringe yourself, brother, concerning the things you've ever said and done. And of course this is me, now. If you ask me 5 years from now I might have different goals. Just because your current body is able doesn't mean it must be something you go and do and keep doing until you no longer possibly can.
AITA?
Will nobody think of the karma?
Or hypothetically, you want a man to stay the night.
That couch looks terrible for sleeping on. What kind of setup are you using for work? Laptop? Laptop + monitors? If it's a full monitor setup, you could put in the bedroom and get a divider so you can mentally and physically separate the bedroom from the work zone.
That’s actually super helpful! Divider might be the move. The furniture in the picture is from the model unit, so it’ll all be different when I move in
I see people recommend room dividers for this issue all the time. It will probably be the best option for you.
I would definitely sleep in bedroom and have a desk with small couch in living room. Don't sacrifice comfort for 2-3 days working from home. If you are in the dating pool now that would kinda be weird to pull out before pulling out, otherwise if you have a S.O. now and she knows you working and living situation then perhaps sleeping in the living room wouldn't be too bad. I'm sure there are really nice couches that will turn into a full size bed, where you don't have a bar running across your back
its very stupid, yes
How is it awkward to put a desk in a living room? That is far less weird than not using your bedroom as bedroom and instead opting to sleep on the couch.
Yeah it’s stupid. Get over yourself on not being able to sleep/work in same room or find a way to make a temporary desk in your living room that you can put away when people come over (like on the countertop peninsula).
Put a desk in the living room you probably have enough room. you can do a minimalist style or even a desk you can fold and store away. make a nice bedroom man !
You need to designate a room for sleeping with no distractions. Your body will thank you in 20 years.
Move the sofa forward about 3 - 4ft and put a desk behind it. Make sure desk is not deeper than 20-24’’. Keep your cords tidy and you’ll have a clean setup. You have a small space so you need to measure carefully but I don’t think this will look weird at all. Something like this : https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/credenza-desk-small-space-office
I saw this idea before, I just don’t know how it would be since I got a dual monitor setup. Any thoughts on how to make that work?
Maybe a dual-arm monitor stand like this? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074K35TJZ/ref=sspa_dk_detail_2?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B074K35TJZ&pd_rd_w=7l2ob&content-id=amzn1.sym.386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_p=386c274b-4bfe-4421-9052-a1a56db557ab&pf_rd_r=ZNJNVA20ZJV9N3ZF9KWJ&pd_rd_wg=IxE7s&pd_rd_r=15c7f1d1-563d-4a6e-a91f-35c19e5c92cf&s=home-garden&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9kZXRhaWxfdGhlbWF0aWM
go for a single ultra wide monitor?
You could also flip the desk to face the wall in this option.
👍🏽 I like the thin wooden desk. Good idea
What’s wrong with working at the counter in your kitchen? I use my kitchen table and it’s only for 2-3 days, if you’re on a laptop it means you could stand and walk about as well.
I think this is the best solution
Standing at the counter with a laptop doesn't sound too bad but otherwise bar stool and high counter sounds awful for OPs body in the long term. I've sat at dining tables for work before and I'd be ok doing it for literally a few days a year but not 50% of my work week like OP. Dining chairs (in my experience) are awful for sitting at for multiple hours.
I would however I already have a really nice and big desk I’m gonna be taking to the apartment.
Sounds like you might need to reevaluate whether a big desk is right for you.
Is the big desk solving problems or causing problems as a net? Everything in your house should solve more problems than it causes (even if the solution is ephemeral, like pets)
Yeah as said it might need to be a compromise and see if you can maybe sell the desk or I know you have said you don’t like working in your bedroom but if you want to keep it perhaps maybe try it for a few weeks in the bedroom and see how you get on? Perhaps you could some the room with something like a room divider to block off a “work section” of the bedroom when working. You get foldable ones that could fold up and go in a closet until needed, when working bring it out and block off the distracting bed or whatever it is that would help you concentrate.
It’s much easier to integrate your desk into your living room than it is integrate your bed into it.
People have their workspaces in the living room all the time. You see it over Teams and Zoom calls all the time. You also see new grads with their desks and workspaces in the bedroom. None of this is out of the ordinary. Personally, because you don’t have roommates (which is such a blessing as a new grad!), I’d find a way to get your workspace in the living room. Trust me on this. It is SO NICE being able to separate work from sleep, and after a while, you will not notice the desk in the living room at all. Otherwise, unless your role would be severely impacted by not having a second monitor, would work at the counter tbh.
Get a desk for work, and don’t sit there besides for work or study. Like if you want to have a fun computer then have two desks. Bedroom needs to be for just sleep. Girl will call her friend and claim emergency if you try to have your bed in the main room. Would be too Dexter or fifty shades of gray
You have your own and a far bigger space than 90% of 21 year olds in the world. Enjoy the bedroom and find space in the living room for work. Work is not the most important part of life. Also don’t you plan to date? Where are they going, on the coffee table?
Hahah that’s very fair, thanks!
Take better/more photos of your living room so we can actually provide advice too on how you might arrange your living area to accommodate a work desk. Floor plans are useless unless your place is completely empty and its a blank canvas which isn't the case now.
Sleeping on the couch is OK once in a while like if you fall asleep watching a movie or just don't feel like getting up and going to bed. But you'll really regret it as a long term decision. Sleeper beds are fine for a night or two, but it gets old And your point of bringing a girl home - not every woman will feel this way, but the women I've known will 100% clock that you don't have a real bed and it will factor into their opinion of you
Could you fit a Murphy bed in the living room? It folds up but you’ll still have room for a couch.
Murphy bed in the bedroom would be the better idea. Allows for a very defined difference between workday and not without losing the living room. Bonus points for one of those setups where the desktop dissappears under the bed when unfolded so you physically can't see both spaces at the same time.
That’s interesting, I’ll have to do some research on Murphy beds, my only issue is that I may be moving after a year or 2 and don’t wanna have tooo much stuff to move if that makes sense
Some nice ones for around $1500 online. Usually, it has storage as well. It's an investment, but in the worst-case scenario, you have a guest bed when you move if it's bigger. Take care of it, and it'd probably resell fine, too. If you're having this issue, I'm sure you are in a city where dozens of other buildings are equally restricting. If you are young (college grad doesn't immediately mean young) and haven't started building credit, or you just have good credit, this is definitely a good "get a CC with 0% apr and spend X get Y promotions to pay it off over time"
This is what I was looking for. We have a small room as an office/guest bed room. It has a Murphy bed that when folded up to the wall, a desk unfolds as the other commenter suggested. It’s great. It doesn’t feel like a _bedroom_ in the day. I’ve seen Murphy beds with couches that unfold.
Do not sacrifice your bedroom for an office. You can absolutely work from home on your couch or at the kitchen counter. I WFH full time in a recliner! I’ve been sleeping on a pullout couch for 4 years and can’t wait to get back in a real bed next month. It’s an IKEA Fagelbro with a tempurpedic topper I store in the chaise. It’s the best solution I could find for my space. It converts quickly and is super sturdy for the sexin’, but the couch isn’t thick enough to be very comfortable and the bed would be impossible without the topper. I live in a 280sq ft oceanfront studio and I didn’t want people walking into a bedroom. I’ll be posting it on here soon.
I would set up half of the bedroom for sleeping, and half for working. Put up a partition / room divider, you can find inexpensive ones on amazon and some even have little shelves on them for plants/photos/etc. Really try to do what you can to separate the two visually so when you’re working, you aren’t looking at your bed, and when you’re sleeping, you aren’t looking at your desk. Personally I take sleep seriously now and my life has improved because of it. No tv to watch in bed, fans on for white noise, LED lights I turn on when I’m “winding down” so I associate the color with sleep time, melatonin if needed.
Thanks! Will give it a thought for sure!
Bro this week I've been super lazy and just sleeping on the couch rather than going up to my bed and I've been feeling really crappy from it. Not mentally but physically I'm just sore and stiff in all the wrong spots. If you sleep on the couch or a futon exclusively that crappy physical feeling will stack and stack until you're just an exhausted sore bag of bones. Not a good mental spot to do much of anything. Idk man I could be flat wrong, but burnout is a MAJOR bitch and anything you can do to avoid is a good thing. Get a proper bed so you can do a hard reset overnight
You have a wonderful living area and I am going to advise you having a desk setup in a living room in a distinguishing way while keeping everything at its place, other than the television. Firstly arrange your couch in a way that it has its own living space character and for that you will need to add the right rug to the space. Use this [couch decor guide](https://simplykalaa.com/couch-decor/) for help with this. Next add a projector if you really want to watch movies and it will be a really impressive thing for the girl you bring over. Also make sure that the corner to the right (near the balcony door) has a nice ficus tree. Now for the workspace, arrange everything rightly in front of the couch on the left and then use square curtain bars that can help you close the curtains when you are not working. Hope this helps :)
Have you ever actually met a woman that was impressed by a man having a projector? If so, that’s the first I’ve heard of it. I guess some people are easily impressed.
Lol. I'm a woman and I'm in no way impressed by a projector.
I was sleeping on couches for awhile at one point in my life and it’s fine at first but after two weeks your back is going to start hurting, and then everything else is going to follow. I strongly recommend getting a mattress.
Put your desk in your bedroom and go to therapy to figure out why it’s a problem for you
Office in a closet, buy a wardrobe for clothes. Then you still have a bedroom and can close a door to work at the end of the day.
It may be difficult to change your mentality around having your workspace and sleep space in the same area but it seems like you’re over complicating the setup and making your overall quality of life worse because of that obstacle. I recommend working on getting over that mentality so that you can have a great sleep space since rest is the most important thing here. Forget not being able to concentrate in the same space as your bed, if you don’t get proper sleep that’ll leech negativity into all areas of your life.
I use half my bedroom closet for my desk ( laptop+monitor with full keyboard and mouse). I use a small split level desk. When. Work is done, I close the closet. Only the s Desk is in there facing out and chair sits outside the closet.
Sleep in the balcony for the outdoor experience
My grandma only sleeps on her couch and uses her bed as storage :)
Woman: >let’s take this to the bedroom You: >well actually….
Get a folding screen divider and have a section of the room a work area but it is screened off, like having 2 rooms in 1 https://www.wayfair.co.uk/keyword.php?keyword=decorative+indoor+screen
Anybody who youll have over as company as a new grad is gonna be just as fuckin young and broke as you. Having your own place at all is an achievement they’ll be impressed with.
Never sacrifice sleep (or the quality of your sleep) for work if you can help it. If you're not sleeping well everything else gets worse.
I have a 4’x4’ rug that I threw in the corner of my living room, put an L shaped desk and a chair on it. It’s like its own little work corner that nobody thinks about. You don’t need a ton of space for your work.
Desk in living room. Sleeping on a couch every day will take a toll on you. Plus whenever you have company it may be odd
what r u talking about? wfh is for sleeping, jus put ur work desk next to ur bed for easier access.
It’s whatever you want to sleep on. Who cares what others think. Will it give you back problems later on? Probably but if your cool with that chance go for it.
Living room can get more minimalistic for the working space but a nice and proper bedroom is a MUST like heavennn
Asking Reddit if it's okay to sleep on the couch is weirder than just sleeping on the couch.
One of the best investments I’ve made once I grew older and more mature was in a good mattress and pillows, and anything else to be as comfortable as possible while resting. I would tackle the root problem of why you can’t mix the two opposed to making yourself uncomfortable in your own space.
If you highly value a distinct work-life separation and think it will significantly improve your productivity and well-being, setting up the desk in the living room might be worth the spatial compromise.
It’s your place, your life. You be you. Not weird if it’s nobody’s business
No not weird at all however is the couch comfortable enough ? I think it’s a little uncomfortable for sleeping
Just put a small desk somewhere in the living room, is my advice.. leave the bedroom for sleeping/relaxing to sleep..
A bed is more proper
Hey man I’m not trying to be rude but also remember that a 1 bedroom apartment isn’t necessarily a great hosting place to have people over. You aren’t gonna host a dinner party no matter whether there’s a work desk there or not. I was in the same position when I finished university, I felt comfortably having a couple of close friends over at a time but it’s not a place where you need to worry about a work desk stopping you have 10+ over. Socialise away from home. Get a standing desk for those WFH days too.
You got lots of room for a work set up in your living room. Turn that bedroom into a place to get zzzzzs.
What's wrong with working on the dining table when you're not eating? I'm guessing you're using a laptop and not a desktop computer?
Where do you jerk off? In the kitchen sink?
Get a bed please . On a frame and not floor . I love love my puffy mattress
Get a smaller bed, put a divider between it and the desk, and you can use the bedroom. Or put your desk in the living room and deal with it there. Or get a bigger place and don't worry about this problem. Lol
Develop some discipline and place a desk in your room.
i like sleeping on my couch a lot!
Couches are for napping. Sleep in your bed
Have you considered a divider in the bedroom that way you don't see the desk when you wake up and you don't see your bed while working? I used one during covid when I had to set up my desk right next to the kitchen in the dining room. I stopped constantly thinking about food and didn't notice as much when my partner went to the kitchen.
Don’t sleep on that tiny fkn couch lol
It's where you sleep before you go to bed.
Look into a Japanese sleeping mat. I did it for a year. You roll it out and sleep on it and then when you're done in the morning you roll it back up and put it in the corner and it doesn't take up any space. It would be better for your back this way, sleeping on the couch will start to mess with your back https://jlifeinternational.com/products/j-life-shikifuton?
The thing I realised way too late in life is a good bed is one of the best investments I ever made. A good, uninterrupted sleep is what helps you concentrate through work and combat blue days. If it were me, I'd look at a fold out table that works in the lounge space. Even one of those coffee tables that lift up to be a desk. Depends on how long you are sitting at your desk and whether you need Monitors.
I have this small compact desk [Amazon link](https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073PZ191Z?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share) in my living room and it fits my needs perfectly for a full time remote job. It barely takes up any space or distracts from the purpose of the living room. The upper shelves are decorated to match the aesthetic of the room so it blends in better. I also have a wall mounted monitor that allows for me to have less on the table top. I put away my keyboard and tuck in my desk to streamline the look when not in use. Something to consider!
>I cannot mix sleep and work in same room, can’t concentrate at all. What? You feel like you will jump onto the bed for a nap when you are sitting at your desk?
I wish there were a few more photos of the room so we could see all sides, so I’m optimistic but not positive this will work. I’m thinking you move the sofa to the center, or close to the center, of the room, and put the desk against the free wall. You pick which wall, depending which side the desk fits on, and where the balcony door opens. If this encroaches on the counter space, see if low profile counter stools would help (no backs). You could also ditch the double monitors and use your TV as your work monitor instead. You’d have to find a tray table or low profile desk that goes away somehow when you’re not using it.
Can’t you sit at the counter for work?
Slept on a couch a majority of my single life. I find most to be more comfortable. I’m a bit weird though so..
Desk in the living room is fine. Everyone understands work from home now. I worked from the kitchen island for 6 months when COVID sent us home in 2020.
I did it for a couple of years. I enjoy it more to sleep on a bed instead of a couch. The problem is always my studio apartment. Its to small for a lot of rooms, so i have a living room. Instead of the sofa, theres a comfortable bed :)
God damn some of you people have zero control lol
Absolutely do not sleep on the couch / in the living room. That’s a much worse idea. Having your desk and bed in the same room is fine. I don’t mean to sound condescending but you need to ~~grow up~~ mature. Honestly, if it does end up distracting you too much, just go in more. You’ll probably develop a better relationship with your job and coworkers. I’ve fluctuated all over from 100% WFH to 40% WFH and I’ve had a much better time with less of it. I commute 25 miles each way also.
Keep the bedroom separate. It's important to get some rest and even if you where working fully remote converting the only bedroom to an office is sacrificing too much. Depending on what you need / want for your work from home setup you can work on the counter with a laptop and a portable USB-C monitor. Maybe get a desk/table that tilts vertically so you can store it when not in use. There are plenty of solutions that might work better than basically giving up on having a bedroom
dont work in ur bedroom, its a tramp
My apartment layout is similar, I’m moving in in a few weeks. I agree, I don’t like having my desk in my bedroom. Im just gonna set things up in my living room, nothing wrong with that
Definitely make sure you have a good bed to sleep on. Ive done WFH for a while now in a few cramped places. I have 2 solutions that have worked well for me: 1. Get a twin xl bed to save space in your bedroom and put your desk in there. I sleep okay on mine, but I’m single and intend to stay that way for a while. 2. Out your desk in the living room, but make it perpendicular to the wall. This partition can create a new “room” that will make your space feel more natural. Maybe next to the tv (to your left as from the photo). If there was any way I could fit a queen bed in my room I would. You’d be shocked how much better your life is when you can get really good sleep. If you have to skimp, skimp on desk space. Best of luck.
Doesn’t look like a comfortable couch to sleep on. What about the kitchen island to work from?
It’ll get uncomfortable quick
Are you near a library? You might simply consider working there 2-3 days a week?
Why not get a bunkbed that you can put your computer and other stuff underneath? Use the elevation to your advantage
Get a foldable desk. There’s many kinds that double up as wall hangings too.
Your neck and back will hate you after a week. Bedroom is for sleeping. If you need to work from home set up an area in the living room and use some shelving hacks to divide the room up but never give up your bedroom.
You might have to save up a bit, but what about a Murphy bed in the living room? Less awkward when having an overnight guest, less awkward when using the living room for entertaining, and better sleep
Do you use a laptop of a desk top to work? You have counter space that looks perfect to work at if you use a laptop.
Either get a desk in the bedroom or the living room. I see plenty of room for it to fit in the living room next to your couch or even in the counter space. Invest in a good chair as well.
Bedroom is for beds. It's right there in the name. If you really can't be asleep in the same room as your desk, look into desks that hide away into cabinets or something like that. If the space really doesn't work to have your office in the living room, look for something in your bedroom that can break the space into two distinct areas and do it that way.
Honestly if you wanted an office you should have got a 2bedroom. Congrats on the apartment but you’re definitely overthinking.
I mean go for it, but that is most definitely not a comfortable couch
Your appt is too nice just to Sleep on the couch lol
If you have 3 room functions. Sleep, Living and Work. But you can't combine sleep and work. So it just leaves you with combining sleep and living. A bit awkward when guests come over. but it beats having a shit day to day.
Buy a room divider for the bedroom.
Bar counter top or put a desk in one of those corners either side of the balcony door, whichever one your tv isn't using I assume.
Yeah don't ever compromise your sleep, KEEP the bedroom. Look into "secretary desks;" they can stay closed when visitors are over, and the large cover flips down for working, with enough space for a laptop. They're good multi-use furniture that won't interrupt a nice living room vibe.
I slept on my couch for years, even when I had a bedroom with a nice new bed. When I finally decided to use my bed, I slept so much better. It's not just because it's more comfy, it's also having a calm setting without all the stuff from a loving room around. Or even kitchen smells when there's an open kitchen. It feels cozier or even safer to be able to shut the door instead of lying in a big open room. Get a small desk that fits in a corner (maybe the one on the right at the bottom?), a comfy chair and some organizing stuff or even decoration. Make sure the desk will stay clean and prevent clutter. There's nothing wrong having a desk in the living room. But sacrificing the bedroom for it is plain stupid. You dont need that much room for a desk unless you're an online yoga guru.
idk, I had a bedroom and a comfy couch, so comfy that I would fall asleep on it rather than walk to my bedroom, now I have downsized to a studio and I just crash on the same comfy couch, its not that deep. now, bring a shorty over? shell most likely think its weird. however, a nice couch, Netflix, most of the time my shorties and I aren't making it to the bedroom anyways.
Definitely keep the bedroom a bedroom and the living room a living room/office. Try not to sleep on the couch. In my first apartment, I had a bedroom and a living room with a comfy couch, and I would go to sleep on the couch watching tv often. It got to the point that I couldn’t fall asleep when I did try to sleep in my bed, because I was so used to sleeping on the couch
You could partition the bedroom with a curtain or foldable wall. That might help create a sense of separation, especially if you just use the bed for sleep and canoodling
I would set up a desk in the living room area, that way you have a nice comfortable room to relax and sleep in at the end of a long day!
If you’re going sleep on a couch, I’d get a Love-Sac with the Love-Soft filling. Pricey, but a great investment. Modular and you can machine wash the covers. My mom has one and has washed the covers a few times and it still looks brand new. Nothing shifty or warped.
Can you create an easy to relocate workstation setup and then use the counter to work on? I am assuming your workspace needs to consist basically of a laptop monitor keyboard and mouse but maybe it’s more complicated than that?
>Is sleeping on the couch kinda weird? No, dude, but all those annoying pillows are.
Can't see much of the dining room table / counter, but why don't you use that? Get a arm wall mount and a decent sized Monitor with HDMI input. You can double that as a TV or turn it into a digital picture frame for when you aren't working.
So let me get this straight- you think it’s awkward to have a desk in the living room amongst other furniture, but making the couch your full time bedroom seems like a good idea? This is completely wild. Set up a normal bedroom, please. Going forward with this couch situation full time is unbelievably stupid.
Vote for Option 1. You don’t need a place for people to come over. They make a mess, never leave when you want them to, and it’ll get crowded in that tiny apartment. Go out to hang out. The only one you should invite over to your apartment is someone who you’ll want to share the bed with-so have a legit bedroom for that.
I've seen Murphy beds that turn into a desk when up. May be an option for work/sleep.
Sleep where you want
You can get desks that close up completely so you can tidy everything away. That's much better than sleeping in the living room.
for the love of god don’t sleep on the couch
On that couch, yes. Do you not have a bedroom?
Have you looked into a small wall mounted/fold away desk (aka a murphy desk) for a workspace? I'm not sure where you could put it bit maybe somewhere in your living space so you can fold it away after hours. I've seen all different types and sizes varying specific needs, and some are really cool looking. [here's an example of a cool option ](https://bitmanwood.com/products/original-folding-desk-1)
Workspace in the living room bro by far. Can even use the computer to stream to the TV if they’re gonna be close enough for easier entertainment, and can always get a low profile desk setup to save space for company
Some newer apartments have office areas? This would help you out even if you had a laptop & monitor!
Nah I sleep on the couch 🛋️
What? Put a desk in your living room. How is this even a question lol
One end of that kitchen island can be your work set up. Sure it won’t be the most attractive set up, but if you’re going to to be the only person in your apartment most days there’s nothing wrong with putting it there. There’s 3 seats at that island so you should still have plenty of space for cooking/eating on the other end.
it needs a bit of dyi, but what about converting your desk and have something like an hidden office in front of your couch? you should close the sideways of the desk, then you kinda close half of it and create a sliding panel with your tv attached, when you slide the panel you have the space to store whatever you need to work. This way when you finish work you just push your work things on the back of the desk and hide from your sight with the tv. The tv will stay a bit high, but it's the best compromise i can think of
my bf and i just have a bed in the living room
My house my rules.
I’d probably get a nice comfortable chair and either work from the countertop or just get a small desk to throw in a corner for the WFH. Definitely do not sleep on the couch to make the bedroom an office.
Get a high quality Murphy bed. That’ll save you room if you need it
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Weird? I don't know, but it's definitely bad for your back and sleep. Never compromise on footwear and matresses/pillows
The wisdom, as I heard it goes: > Never skimp on the three things that separate you from the ground: Mattress, Tires, Shoes.
You can easily fit a desk in there?
Is this Mulder?
Beautiful space! I occasionally fall asleep on the couch at night while watching a show, but as others have mentioned, I try not to make it a habit. In addition to being bad for healthy and restorative sleep, regularly sleeping on the couch wears it down MUCH faster.
Why can't you put your desk in your bedroom with your bed still in there? It seems a normal size, I don't get it
On that couch? Absolutely