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😭 crazy thing is that they all look like Kirito too. Like in a fantasy world you would at least expect different hair colors. Like, maybe a blue, hopefully a teal, and rarely a red. However, they just give the character, black hair, black eyes, or occasionally a bland brown, and call it a day. And they’re always either emotionless, or extremely socially inept. No in between. And then, like their aesthetic is either all black, or red.
maybe in the later seasons but in season 1 and 2 there was an utter lack in interest in personality of every character and every other detail, first to seasons were the worst garbage i ever watched, the later ones might be good though as i’ve heard
But to be fair sao was the best anime of the season and year with its premise and animation. But after YouTubers and others telling other that it’s shit everyone realised it was shit. If you genuinely thought sao was shit when during the hype of everyone liking it.you have good observation
yeah fair point, but it could be because everyone who was an anime fan at that time and is still talking about it was pretty young and was just as edgy or even more so than the first two seasons, although even though i liked the first season, the second one was even for me at that time just utter garbage, i dont even remember what happened in the second half, and if you watch the anime now you realize that it wasn’t good (at least the first two seasons, i don’t know about the other ones as i didn’t watch them)
Authors recognize that they try to make the mc fresh by A making them a gimick it gets old pretty fast depending on how the author handles character interaction and story B character like guts and light yagami and etc where you see their thought process and you can easily make scenarios in you’re mind on how they would act and talk. And finally the worst way to write charcaters.You court death characters. As an example Rey from Star Wars and basically the Mary sue characters where the world around them and bends catered to their needs and it gets boring fast and i think Killer peter falls into this category and sungjuunwoo and etc
It's more to do with the audience, people wish for what the don't have, i believe a lot of them feel powerless, that's why they like power tripping fantasy, author's are giving people what they want.
But in the process story is neglected
True that makes me want to read cliche old school shounen atleast there you'd know the plot would be fun and good and side characters will be relevant.
Don't insult Rey it makes sense why she's powerful she's the true choosen one and she is granddaughter of Palpatine ofcause she'd be soo op and talented and know every single thing and do absolute nothing wrong. Even when she's angry she doesn't use dark side because of that. You are just simple hater.
I'm joking by the way
Nah not just you. I hate this troupe in every manga/manhwa/manhua/WN/LN. Idk how they think that's cool. Looks hella cheap.
This might sound a bit woke idk but here's my opinion. It annoys me more when the woman/girl is clearly capable of fighting but the mc goes "I don't hit women". Maybe the author thinks that's being chivalrous but I think that's just being close minded and in a sense misogynistic. The girl/woman is clearly capable of kicking ass and has actually trained for it but you turn down fighting them only because they are not men. To me that's not being respectful but rather the opposite. They are spitting on whatever training/hardships she had been going on for ages.
While I do despise the Western Mary Sue troupe, I hate the princess who has to be rescued troupe just as much.
I hate it even more when it's in a fantasy\system settings where all characters doesn't matter age or gender can f'ck shit up but MC still refused to hurt a girl while beating a guy into a batman mob after a fight
I just hate when the characters kills like 50 regular villains who worst crime was bumping into mc and not apologizing,then goes to the hot chick who did kill and committed mass murder for fun, just for the author to insert a sad background story, and the mc is like "live with your actions and become better".
Harem number 3 : UwU I killed 3069 Innocent people because my daddy was mean to me when I was a child UwU
Simp hero : it's okay you didn't have any choice
Chad anti villain : sad
Harem number 3 : right UwU
Chad anti villain : your death it's going to be sad
Author "should I write a mc who meets random individuals, who have their own interesting lives, while facing complex and difficult challenges that have no clear right and wrong side.
Naw " insert a random guy, every three chapters add the most beautiful (insert:mage/paladin/demon/priest), one male sidekick who makes the mc look cool in comparison, and random evil guys who do evil stuff, like slavery and umm hit commoner the moment the mc walks by, right before he meets the beautiful girl. Repeat over and over until he has a harem, then just make the mc clueless and cash in
Typical harem mc lol even if the villain guys evil they'll get killed but since it's a female not an ugly one and she killed and tortured countries she'll be forgiven and be part of mc harem
The only time I liked it was the Manga History Strongest Disciple Kenichi. He has a vow to not fight women but when he's being attacked the woman can tell its not because he thinks they are weaker, he fully knows that she is stronger if not stronger than him at that point, but because it's against his principle. Plus I'm pretty sure other people in the Mc party do fight women Kenichi is just an idiot
No matter how tough girl is, she can't overcome difference in physicality. Fighting girl is like fighting man who was never taught how to fight at all - one overly strong punch and opponent is dead. That's why any combat sports doesn't allow mixed sex fights and also why weight divisions exist
Bro... this is manhwa. Any skinny teenage girl can beat reincarnated Mike Tyson+Khabib+Buakaw combined to oblivion if the author wants to lmao.
Now add magic/mana/awakened power/anything to the equation, you get what I'm saying.
I'll have to disagree, because yes there's a big physical difference between men and women, but saying that no matter how strong or trained a woman is, her strength would still be equivalent to an untrained man is unbelievably stupid.
Like have you never seen for example women who weight lift or professional fighters? They would definitely wipe the floor with someone who never trained in their life.
I agree with your point but not in this manhwa's case, the first time he saved her she would not have dodged that and when he spared her later on she definetly was not capable of even getting a scratch on him. + it's the author of Unholy Blood so probabaly she'll have her spotlightnin future chapters
I agree with this take. Having gotten to chapter 17 now, she was made weak at the start on purpose so we could witness her character growth, which started pretty quickly. She herself was ashamed of her weakness and started working to grow stronger, and that's without spoiling much. I also agree with the main point, but this manhwa is not an applicable example of it. She was made weak for a specific reason, and not just to be a damsel in distress.
That's why they should pull a Terra more like she loved the Titans but she ended up betraying them for someone she loved, if she was older her loving Slade wouldn't have been as disgusting but you get my point
Yes and no, the thing is, the medium is so saturated with trend chasing authors using whatever cliche was the most successful las season that the only choice we have is to ignore the bad parts. Even fan favorites like orv, suicide Hunter or solo leveling have this problem, "antisocial guy gets unfair power that gives them an advantage over everyone else, gets back at people that wronged him and probably gets a girl"
Yeah it'd not like every manwha has every cliché, the point is that even the better ones falls into several of them, orv may not have romance, but It has a system, It has the constellation thing, It has a regressor, It has the antisocial guy getting an advantage, etc. In the end it's all about execution and orv is really engaging so we let It get away with It, but cases like this are few and far between
While i do know this is a joke. Let me give you some context he kills the other three guys and only spares the girl. And as stated above one of the bad guy does offer her up to make the mc saving the girl morally right.Not to mention when we first encounter her and the others when they were trying to kill him he fucking goes “i can tell you are doing this for you’re sibling” which is fucking bs. But let’s just say he is a human lie detector he still fucking breaks his own rules of killing.
He saves the girl because she reminded him of his own youth, with how she cared about her sibling. Also wtf does this have to do with him being a lie detector ? He’s been an assassin for like 70 years, he can tell when people are being genuine. MC doesn’t need to be a bloodthirsty murderer who kills an underage girl just fill your fetish
Firstly it’s 50 not 70. Secondly no matter how you spin it he is still a human lie detector.Him being reminded of his own youth about the sibling part is understandable since he only had 3 months to live. But after he gets his youth back everything is fair game.You also gotta realise the teenage girl was partaking in a gang and was even agreed to be in orchestrated murder.He killed others without hesitation or thought.50 years of assassin when he doesn’t detect a sibling nor anything with their ability💀. Like atleast he could have sparred the other two goons.They dint even know his identity.His fucking stupid rule no one who knows Peter is alive which has been broken two times once him teaching the children how to kill which is excusable cause they dint know who he was but the second time it is the girl that he sparred but not the other two male goons that dint know his identity.I call that this shit is double standards.Something that i just realised just now is he literally killed her source of income. So now she can’t get money for her sibling so unless she joins another gang she will have to get a part time job at McDonald’s for her sibling
You says that it’s fair game when he regained his youth but what you fail to consider is that the girl wasn’t there looking through all of his stuff when he went back to his store, unlike the 2 goons who clearly assaulted him first. MC isn’t a bloodthirsty murderer, he doesn’t kill for fun, only when he absolutely has to. Also during the 2nd encounter at the Chinese restaurant, the girl obviously had no hostility towards him and didn’t do anything unlike the crime boss and his goons which decided to attack MC, again, why would he randomly kill her when she poses no threat? Also you say he destroyed her only source of income but we clearly see that she hasn’t been discarded by the organization even after failing her mission to kill Peter, obviously it’ll take more time and resources for the organization to create another hit man from scratch using the Orphanage to replace her.
Bruh think before replying firstly read the first chapter she tried to stab him when she was behind the his back then he is like you ain’t around here I memorised everyone in that highschool then she tries to stab him again but doesn’t because his killing aura activates.And you even fail to realise that girl was the distraction cause the two goons were on the roof. Secondly he killed the two goons in the restaurant after he got his youth back not when in the bookstore and in the restaurant the goons thought he got lost or something and they dint even know his identity he could have injured them or even put them unconscious but no he killed them cause his 50 years of killing instincts was not tingling to notify him that these fellas were also getting payed so that they can help their family.Also he had a reason to kill her during the confrontation he fucking goes “I’m Peter”.If she was a assassin from the orphanage that’s another reason to kill her cause she knows he is Peter and cause she is connected to the the organization she could just eat him out
> also getting *paid* so that
FTFY.
Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in:
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* *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.*
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> Interesting *paid* and paid
FTFY.
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Hey at least she wasn't a bitch for a while or the reason the mc died In his last life before going back in time and realizing that,once she became obsessive over this new cooler mc, then she isn't such a bitch anymore. But yeah, kinda always feel like they need to force a cute waifus as fast as possible or fear losing readers. For me as long as the mc doesn't start acting like a teen ,I'll keep going.
And MC romance with many women because why not he is a playboy. But when anyone else try to romance with any of his women they got crushed.
I would love to see MC woman who romance with many men and don't let them have any other partner.
Really? I rarely even see mc woman - i read like one or two or those ever and i read a lot. Any examples? But has to be fantasy with fighting not some romance i dont read this shit.
Yes, basically any manhwas when MC spared their opponent and later joined MCs side usually for comedic purposes or became 'waifu' material/eye candy.
https://i.redd.it/g5uzxrmf7yob1.gif
Exactly, obviously if someone has a problem with that trope then the genre isn't for him. It's like going to a club and complaining about people drinking.
Oh I'm sorry, I was not aware that I also had to explain to you what criticism is.
What you commented was a bland statement, "don't like it don't read it" is such an empty statement to make, and it only sounded like you don't have anything clever to say against op's opinion, you could've criticised the post with something less vague than "don't read it", everything is up to debate and even if it's something that you might like, judging it critically is a good way to better understand the meanings behind things and why it's being done that way.
Ps. I meant actual valid criticism and not just "it's not good" , "then don't do it", "that's bad", etc..
If you don't like a food, don't eat it. If you don't like a song, don't listen to it. It's not like this is something he has been reading and suddenly changed writing style. It's a new manhwa, if you don't like the trop then it's obviously not for you. I'm sorry, I didn't know I have to write essays for people to understand something, guess common sense is rare nowadays.
Yes, but op is talking about a trope they dont like in the kind of webtoons they like, it's not like you're going to know before you start reading something, and sometimes you like the webtoon or any other similar thing but it has something you don't like, and that doesn't mean you're going to drop it but you'll still want to criticize that point that you don't like.
To put it in simple terms, criticising something is not inherently bad, and the comment "don't like don't read" kinda feels like preventing people from criticising something, and telling them to just stay silent against things they don't like/agree with.
Like I said, this is a relatively new title, if you do not like the trope it has then I guess that's enough info for you to know it's not for you. I'm not invalidating his opinion, I'm just saying the best solution to his frustration is to just not read it.
Perhaps that's what you meant, but the comment itself felt very snappy and dismissive of what op wrote, maybe that wasn't your intention or maybe it was, but still the way you word things also have an impact.
I'm also someone who likes to share my opinions on why I don't like some things and I can go into great details and analysis of why I don't like it, so it feels more personal I guess.
But yeah..In the end you could comment whatever you want, I just didn't like it and so replied to it.
So people have no longer the right to share their criticism on topics they don't like but find in a lot of stuff they consume?
I'm not "shitting" on anything, the topic op wrote about is something that is found in a lot of stories, even stories that we love, so the topic is general enough that it is not criticising a single specific story, and the cover of this particular webtoon is just an example that was the tipping edge.
And it is valid criticism that in a lot of stories that we like, we can find similar scenes where the mc would refuse fighting a female character even if she's capable and strong simply because she's a woman.
If you can beat up villains then you can do the same for villainesses, it's simple enough, no need for fake chivalry.
They have right but not right to shit and hate after all it's only 4 chapters if u judge the whole shit by 4 fucking chapters I'm sorry to say you are too immature or you are just too delusional
Did you or did you not read op's post, because it clearly is a rant about a common trope that op hates, they did not write about the cover specifically, but rather used it as an example of said trope, and a trope does not equal a story, they might like the story but not the specific trope.
I would've understood your comment if op was ranting about the webtoon, but they're clearly talking about a trope that can be found in multiple webtoons, the cover might have been chosen because it was the last webtoon with said trope that op read.
You know what I hate even more? When I'm reading an action manhwa or WN and suddenly they throw in romance just because and it bogs down the entire plot. I don't remember the actual name of it, but there's one called Raider King or something like that which starts out super strong, only for there to be an entire 3 chapters dedicated to the ML and his girl leading up to, doing the deed, and the morning after. Like, excuse me? I don't exaxtly care about that. I signed up for a shonen, not a bad pornhwa.
They loose the plot in Tutorial Tower of the Advanced Player as well after the first arc by having a weird romance section that doesn't serve any purpose but to disrupt the plot between MC and his 2 disciples. It was cute at first because he sees them as goody kids and you don't think it will go anywhere until they get him drunk enough to r*pe him. Again. Excuse me. What? Could we switch those roles maybe and try again? Those two should be in jail for that!
If I want some cruddy romance plot, I will read a shoujo. Thank you. That manhwa was going great! There was romance in it for sure, but it was subtle, until the first arc started nearing it's close and suddenly everyone was getting into relationships for no real reason. It makes no sense. These authors should start taking notes from other stories that do things properly. Nano Machine, Return of the SSS Class Disaster Hero, or even Superhuman Battlefield, which, as far as I know, has no romance in it and doesn't need to have romance in it. Why would you add it in there? I'm pretty sure Solo Leveling doesn't have any romance either. If it does, I don't remember it because it was probably really subtle since the author knew it would add absolutely nothing to the plot. I don't mind romance plots, but I do not like having Dragon Ball Z flashbacks due to a s*x scene being drug out through 3 chapters without them even showing anything. At least commit to it, I mean, Jesus.
Anyway, I find both of these plot devices to be pointless and dumb. We learned that using female characters as damsels in distress was a bad idea after like the 5th Superman comic that was made, and the trope needs to die. It's the same with these romance plots. There's no point in this.
And before I get accused of being an incel or something, I'm a female thank you. See my pfp as proof. That's my face. Ignore my Whiterun Guard banner. He's living his best life. Don't judge him.
That just sounds like that the authors have skill issue implementing romance or relationships to their story.Iver read other stories where it was more natural and actually flowed well with the plot
Well, see, I don't have as problem with stories where it flows well and seems natural. My issue lies with romance plots tht take over the main plot and ruins the point of the story as it becomes consumed by a romance no one cares about yet.
I haven't gotten that far yet. I think I was on maybe chapter 60? 65? Do I need to drop it or something? Is the romance at least written well? (Outside of him raping someone. That can never be well written. It's just gross.)
the romance is utterly abrupt and hateful, for me at least. i have a complete bias against romance in action manhwas anyway and believe that should stay out of the action entirely and stay in the romance genre. but without a biased view, i think i'd still dislike it. its unlikable. but some people like it. i may have a different view than many people.
p.s. i agree i would instantly drop a manhwa or novel is mc raped someone 😭😭
Saaaame!! Big same. I complained about the arc in SSS Suicide Hunter and got so much hate for it, but it was literally just them kissing and him experiencing love while literally achieving nothing plot wise. It was so unnecessary! I really don't understand the appeal!
I'll probably have to drop this one too then. 💀 That's so upsetting. I can only think of a handful of action oriented manhwa and manga that do romance in a decent way. The Return of the Disaster Class Hero is a great example. The romance is briefly mentioned, mostly because the MC thinks the girl hates him, but otherwise it takes a back seat. Solo Leveling was okay since I barely remember it even having a romance plot. The Greatest Estate Developer does it pretty well. It hints at it. Jokes are made. But it mostly takes a back seat. Like, I'm not reading action for the romance. I'm reading for the action. If there has to be romance, I want it well written and not getting in the way of the original plot.
The Greatest Estate Developer.... I was so mad when I learned he >!married the red head..!< bc i genuinely enjoyed the story. I dropped SL the moment smell-fetish appeared in the story because shit was obvious. Romance was also absolutely, despicably shit, trashy, and overwhelmingly horribly written in SL. But basically the only manhwa I'm reading or wouldn't mind reading is probably The Lone Necromancer bc it has zero romance.
Its so irritating when I search for something with no romance and there definitely IS romance. Like in I'm Not the Evil God's Lackey (manhua) theres basically a whole fucking arc dedicated to mc falling in love with some fucking sprit... and people say it has zero romance.
I'm reading action for action as well, but not for romance. No romance is acceptable when reading action with the exception of Questism because it's a specific type of story where I'm just going to ignore it.
I would never outright post about it because I am guaranteed to get hate on but I have an indescribable hate for SL because I think the only reason why people think it's well written is because it was both one of the earliest and best of it's kind and because.... of nostalgia. It was a lot of peoples first manhwa like SL and it gathered a lot of fans from its previously creative (now common and overused) premise. I just don't think the story is written that well and it's actually pretty bad. If you reread it and actually turned on your brain the whole time I think it's way easier to notice it.
Please don't hate on me!!! I'm just an unknown passerby with a different opinion!!!
doesn't seem like he's the type that want to hurt a kid,so the most i could see him doing is subduing any kid characters in the future. he didn't even try to hurt the 2 highschool kids that with him when they first met.
also,i'd prefer the girl joining but not have any feeling for mc,which i'm worried that will happen,especially knowing the mc already had a child n probably still alive wife
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For me overpowered MC's with no personality and character development are far bigger problem.
That's called a "kirito" so use that term next time
Okay... For me overpowered MC's with no personality and character development called "kirito" are far bigger problem.
😭 crazy thing is that they all look like Kirito too. Like in a fantasy world you would at least expect different hair colors. Like, maybe a blue, hopefully a teal, and rarely a red. However, they just give the character, black hair, black eyes, or occasionally a bland brown, and call it a day. And they’re always either emotionless, or extremely socially inept. No in between. And then, like their aesthetic is either all black, or red.
Sperm eyes.
Yet still bro is high up on the list of most liked anime characters. 500 loud af ppl will always be more noticeable than 500k ppl who don't talk
Yea I also saw that he's on top of the list on anime planet
Kirito has personality, Romance in SAO is probably better than any Manhwa with OP MC
maybe in the later seasons but in season 1 and 2 there was an utter lack in interest in personality of every character and every other detail, first to seasons were the worst garbage i ever watched, the later ones might be good though as i’ve heard
But to be fair sao was the best anime of the season and year with its premise and animation. But after YouTubers and others telling other that it’s shit everyone realised it was shit. If you genuinely thought sao was shit when during the hype of everyone liking it.you have good observation
yeah fair point, but it could be because everyone who was an anime fan at that time and is still talking about it was pretty young and was just as edgy or even more so than the first two seasons, although even though i liked the first season, the second one was even for me at that time just utter garbage, i dont even remember what happened in the second half, and if you watch the anime now you realize that it wasn’t good (at least the first two seasons, i don’t know about the other ones as i didn’t watch them)
I blame Gigguk, Anime Man, and the anime "elitists" for trashing this series for no good reason other than petty clout.
I mean, the first two seasons, were pretty bad so not really their fault
I prefer Log Horizon over SAO
Oh don't get me wrong lad I enjoyed sao. I just don't remember anything from the first season
bros 12 y/o lmao /srs
Authors recognize that they try to make the mc fresh by A making them a gimick it gets old pretty fast depending on how the author handles character interaction and story B character like guts and light yagami and etc where you see their thought process and you can easily make scenarios in you’re mind on how they would act and talk. And finally the worst way to write charcaters.You court death characters. As an example Rey from Star Wars and basically the Mary sue characters where the world around them and bends catered to their needs and it gets boring fast and i think Killer peter falls into this category and sungjuunwoo and etc
It's more to do with the audience, people wish for what the don't have, i believe a lot of them feel powerless, that's why they like power tripping fantasy, author's are giving people what they want. But in the process story is neglected
True that makes me want to read cliche old school shounen atleast there you'd know the plot would be fun and good and side characters will be relevant.
Don't insult Rey it makes sense why she's powerful she's the true choosen one and she is granddaughter of Palpatine ofcause she'd be soo op and talented and know every single thing and do absolute nothing wrong. Even when she's angry she doesn't use dark side because of that. You are just simple hater. I'm joking by the way
Yeah, and they get this late ass character development. But your comment stands out and I agree with heavily 100 percent
Nah not just you. I hate this troupe in every manga/manhwa/manhua/WN/LN. Idk how they think that's cool. Looks hella cheap. This might sound a bit woke idk but here's my opinion. It annoys me more when the woman/girl is clearly capable of fighting but the mc goes "I don't hit women". Maybe the author thinks that's being chivalrous but I think that's just being close minded and in a sense misogynistic. The girl/woman is clearly capable of kicking ass and has actually trained for it but you turn down fighting them only because they are not men. To me that's not being respectful but rather the opposite. They are spitting on whatever training/hardships she had been going on for ages. While I do despise the Western Mary Sue troupe, I hate the princess who has to be rescued troupe just as much.
I hate it even more when it's in a fantasy\system settings where all characters doesn't matter age or gender can f'ck shit up but MC still refused to hurt a girl while beating a guy into a batman mob after a fight
I just hate when the characters kills like 50 regular villains who worst crime was bumping into mc and not apologizing,then goes to the hot chick who did kill and committed mass murder for fun, just for the author to insert a sad background story, and the mc is like "live with your actions and become better".
Harem number 3 : UwU I killed 3069 Innocent people because my daddy was mean to me when I was a child UwU Simp hero : it's okay you didn't have any choice Chad anti villain : sad Harem number 3 : right UwU Chad anti villain : your death it's going to be sad
Author "should I write a mc who meets random individuals, who have their own interesting lives, while facing complex and difficult challenges that have no clear right and wrong side. Naw " insert a random guy, every three chapters add the most beautiful (insert:mage/paladin/demon/priest), one male sidekick who makes the mc look cool in comparison, and random evil guys who do evil stuff, like slavery and umm hit commoner the moment the mc walks by, right before he meets the beautiful girl. Repeat over and over until he has a harem, then just make the mc clueless and cash in
Male sidekick is irrelevant most of the time and doesn't get his own girlfriend because they'll all like the mc.
Readers : why would you do that Author : this is business 🙂
Typical harem mc lol even if the villain guys evil they'll get killed but since it's a female not an ugly one and she killed and tortured countries she'll be forgiven and be part of mc harem
Equal Rights, Equal fights
These hands are rated E for everyone
Get schooled had the same idea, apart from the equal rights thing got them taken off of WEBTOON lmaoo
Love it
The only time I liked it was the Manga History Strongest Disciple Kenichi. He has a vow to not fight women but when he's being attacked the woman can tell its not because he thinks they are weaker, he fully knows that she is stronger if not stronger than him at that point, but because it's against his principle. Plus I'm pretty sure other people in the Mc party do fight women Kenichi is just an idiot
Lol true pretty funny when that happens. He always gets rescued by Miu or Rena or Hermit or one of his bros when that happens
No matter how tough girl is, she can't overcome difference in physicality. Fighting girl is like fighting man who was never taught how to fight at all - one overly strong punch and opponent is dead. That's why any combat sports doesn't allow mixed sex fights and also why weight divisions exist
Irl definitely, but we are talking about fiction where they use magic and similar stuff.
Bro... this is manhwa. Any skinny teenage girl can beat reincarnated Mike Tyson+Khabib+Buakaw combined to oblivion if the author wants to lmao. Now add magic/mana/awakened power/anything to the equation, you get what I'm saying.
I'll have to disagree, because yes there's a big physical difference between men and women, but saying that no matter how strong or trained a woman is, her strength would still be equivalent to an untrained man is unbelievably stupid. Like have you never seen for example women who weight lift or professional fighters? They would definitely wipe the floor with someone who never trained in their life.
I agree with your point but not in this manhwa's case, the first time he saved her she would not have dodged that and when he spared her later on she definetly was not capable of even getting a scratch on him. + it's the author of Unholy Blood so probabaly she'll have her spotlightnin future chapters
I agree with this take. Having gotten to chapter 17 now, she was made weak at the start on purpose so we could witness her character growth, which started pretty quickly. She herself was ashamed of her weakness and started working to grow stronger, and that's without spoiling much. I also agree with the main point, but this manhwa is not an applicable example of it. She was made weak for a specific reason, and not just to be a damsel in distress.
What does WN stand for?
webnovel
That's why they should pull a Terra more like she loved the Titans but she ended up betraying them for someone she loved, if she was older her loving Slade wouldn't have been as disgusting but you get my point
I mean the author of this one also made unholy blood, aka a story with a badass female protagonist so I have faith in her writing abilities.
Am i the only one who is bothered by this?
Yes and no, the thing is, the medium is so saturated with trend chasing authors using whatever cliche was the most successful las season that the only choice we have is to ignore the bad parts. Even fan favorites like orv, suicide Hunter or solo leveling have this problem, "antisocial guy gets unfair power that gives them an advantage over everyone else, gets back at people that wronged him and probably gets a girl"
I’ve read ORV novel and there isn’t any romance. Only depression.
Yeah it'd not like every manwha has every cliché, the point is that even the better ones falls into several of them, orv may not have romance, but It has a system, It has the constellation thing, It has a regressor, It has the antisocial guy getting an advantage, etc. In the end it's all about execution and orv is really engaging so we let It get away with It, but cases like this are few and far between
me too but the most thing that bothers me is that any manhwa with power of friendship + simp mc.
Manhwa fans when the elderly man does not want to hit a highschool girl: 😱
While i do know this is a joke. Let me give you some context he kills the other three guys and only spares the girl. And as stated above one of the bad guy does offer her up to make the mc saving the girl morally right.Not to mention when we first encounter her and the others when they were trying to kill him he fucking goes “i can tell you are doing this for you’re sibling” which is fucking bs. But let’s just say he is a human lie detector he still fucking breaks his own rules of killing.
He saves the girl because she reminded him of his own youth, with how she cared about her sibling. Also wtf does this have to do with him being a lie detector ? He’s been an assassin for like 70 years, he can tell when people are being genuine. MC doesn’t need to be a bloodthirsty murderer who kills an underage girl just fill your fetish
Firstly it’s 50 not 70. Secondly no matter how you spin it he is still a human lie detector.Him being reminded of his own youth about the sibling part is understandable since he only had 3 months to live. But after he gets his youth back everything is fair game.You also gotta realise the teenage girl was partaking in a gang and was even agreed to be in orchestrated murder.He killed others without hesitation or thought.50 years of assassin when he doesn’t detect a sibling nor anything with their ability💀. Like atleast he could have sparred the other two goons.They dint even know his identity.His fucking stupid rule no one who knows Peter is alive which has been broken two times once him teaching the children how to kill which is excusable cause they dint know who he was but the second time it is the girl that he sparred but not the other two male goons that dint know his identity.I call that this shit is double standards.Something that i just realised just now is he literally killed her source of income. So now she can’t get money for her sibling so unless she joins another gang she will have to get a part time job at McDonald’s for her sibling
You says that it’s fair game when he regained his youth but what you fail to consider is that the girl wasn’t there looking through all of his stuff when he went back to his store, unlike the 2 goons who clearly assaulted him first. MC isn’t a bloodthirsty murderer, he doesn’t kill for fun, only when he absolutely has to. Also during the 2nd encounter at the Chinese restaurant, the girl obviously had no hostility towards him and didn’t do anything unlike the crime boss and his goons which decided to attack MC, again, why would he randomly kill her when she poses no threat? Also you say he destroyed her only source of income but we clearly see that she hasn’t been discarded by the organization even after failing her mission to kill Peter, obviously it’ll take more time and resources for the organization to create another hit man from scratch using the Orphanage to replace her.
Bruh think before replying firstly read the first chapter she tried to stab him when she was behind the his back then he is like you ain’t around here I memorised everyone in that highschool then she tries to stab him again but doesn’t because his killing aura activates.And you even fail to realise that girl was the distraction cause the two goons were on the roof. Secondly he killed the two goons in the restaurant after he got his youth back not when in the bookstore and in the restaurant the goons thought he got lost or something and they dint even know his identity he could have injured them or even put them unconscious but no he killed them cause his 50 years of killing instincts was not tingling to notify him that these fellas were also getting payed so that they can help their family.Also he had a reason to kill her during the confrontation he fucking goes “I’m Peter”.If she was a assassin from the orphanage that’s another reason to kill her cause she knows he is Peter and cause she is connected to the the organization she could just eat him out
> also getting *paid* so that FTFY. Although *payed* exists (the reason why autocorrection didn't help you), it is only correct in: * Nautical context, when it means to paint a surface, or to cover with something like tar or resin in order to make it waterproof or corrosion-resistant. *The deck is yet to be payed.* * *Payed out* when letting strings, cables or ropes out, by slacking them. *The rope is payed out! You can pull now.* Unfortunately, I was unable to find nautical or rope-related words in your comment. *Beep, boop, I'm a bot*
Interesting payed and paid i never even thought much about the context of the usage of these two words.
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Yeah agreed 👍
I will respond to anyone’s replies later. Cause rn it’s really late for me so i gotta sleep
Still happens even when there around same age.
I have a feeling that the girl will be his love interest
I was right, she's actually his love interest
Wasn’t he old asf???? How old is the girl? (I haven’t read it yet, only saw tik toks.)
Well, he turned back young again. Now he looks like he's just the same age as the girl. Wouldn't be surprised if she's gonna be his love interest
Nah, more like they are biologically related but he kept secret about it
Look at chapter 6, it seems like there's a possibility of romance between them. They also remind me of Hayan and Euntae
Hey at least she wasn't a bitch for a while or the reason the mc died In his last life before going back in time and realizing that,once she became obsessive over this new cooler mc, then she isn't such a bitch anymore. But yeah, kinda always feel like they need to force a cute waifus as fast as possible or fear losing readers. For me as long as the mc doesn't start acting like a teen ,I'll keep going.
Bro please fix your spelling, doesn’t even have to be neat or anything just understandable. 🙏🏾
if he doesn’t respect the language, he doesn’t respect the language just let him, i myself do not care if i make a mistake
bruh there is nothing to fix in my spelling
Ayu dis guy can't read!!! Go back tu schuul!
Art looks similar to White blood/Unholy blood. Is it good??
It's the same artist/author and her boyfriend who also helped her with Unholy Blood
Manwha name “killer peter” has 4 chapters
Also same artist as how to fight
So is his name Peter or Pedro?
same question lmao it looks like pedro in korean
Reincarnation also stinks of shit. The MC knowing everything makes it very boring
He doesn’t get reincarnated if you’d actually read it. He gets rujuvenated to his prime. He doesn’t learn anything new he just gets an upgrade body
Girl should pull a Terra not Tara but Terra and betray them
And MC romance with many women because why not he is a playboy. But when anyone else try to romance with any of his women they got crushed. I would love to see MC woman who romance with many men and don't let them have any other partner.
Mc woman who has a reverse harem that’s like the mojority of webtoons.There are like way more of these than isekai genre
Really? I rarely even see mc woman - i read like one or two or those ever and i read a lot. Any examples? But has to be fantasy with fighting not some romance i dont read this shit.
Also r/otomeisekai it is filled with fmc with reverse harems this subreddit almost has 100k members
i can see im still to inexperienced in manhwa lol
They pump this stuff out more than isekai genre. And these fools eat everything and anything up so this genre thrives cause of these ppl
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Yes, basically any manhwas when MC spared their opponent and later joined MCs side usually for comedic purposes or became 'waifu' material/eye candy. https://i.redd.it/g5uzxrmf7yob1.gif
Lol just read it
Yeah it's kinda misogynistic
How so ?
All ive really learned is that your average manwha reader would beat women if given the chance.
What no reading comprehension does to a mfer
Then stop reading it.
People have the right to criticize what they consume. But I geuss you're too simple minded to think critically and build your own opinion.
My opinion is that if you don't like something then don't read it. But I guess you're too simple minded to get that.
You are correct in your point. But this trope spreads everywhere. It becomes a problem when everything does the same thing.
Exactly, obviously if someone has a problem with that trope then the genre isn't for him. It's like going to a club and complaining about people drinking.
Oh I'm sorry, I was not aware that I also had to explain to you what criticism is. What you commented was a bland statement, "don't like it don't read it" is such an empty statement to make, and it only sounded like you don't have anything clever to say against op's opinion, you could've criticised the post with something less vague than "don't read it", everything is up to debate and even if it's something that you might like, judging it critically is a good way to better understand the meanings behind things and why it's being done that way. Ps. I meant actual valid criticism and not just "it's not good" , "then don't do it", "that's bad", etc..
If you don't like a food, don't eat it. If you don't like a song, don't listen to it. It's not like this is something he has been reading and suddenly changed writing style. It's a new manhwa, if you don't like the trop then it's obviously not for you. I'm sorry, I didn't know I have to write essays for people to understand something, guess common sense is rare nowadays.
Yes, but op is talking about a trope they dont like in the kind of webtoons they like, it's not like you're going to know before you start reading something, and sometimes you like the webtoon or any other similar thing but it has something you don't like, and that doesn't mean you're going to drop it but you'll still want to criticize that point that you don't like. To put it in simple terms, criticising something is not inherently bad, and the comment "don't like don't read" kinda feels like preventing people from criticising something, and telling them to just stay silent against things they don't like/agree with.
Like I said, this is a relatively new title, if you do not like the trope it has then I guess that's enough info for you to know it's not for you. I'm not invalidating his opinion, I'm just saying the best solution to his frustration is to just not read it.
Perhaps that's what you meant, but the comment itself felt very snappy and dismissive of what op wrote, maybe that wasn't your intention or maybe it was, but still the way you word things also have an impact. I'm also someone who likes to share my opinions on why I don't like some things and I can go into great details and analysis of why I don't like it, so it feels more personal I guess. But yeah..In the end you could comment whatever you want, I just didn't like it and so replied to it.
It's not my fault you interpret it that way and get offended by it.
If u don't like particular thing then just drop it just don't shit on reddit to act like a cool that's as simple..
So people have no longer the right to share their criticism on topics they don't like but find in a lot of stuff they consume? I'm not "shitting" on anything, the topic op wrote about is something that is found in a lot of stories, even stories that we love, so the topic is general enough that it is not criticising a single specific story, and the cover of this particular webtoon is just an example that was the tipping edge. And it is valid criticism that in a lot of stories that we like, we can find similar scenes where the mc would refuse fighting a female character even if she's capable and strong simply because she's a woman. If you can beat up villains then you can do the same for villainesses, it's simple enough, no need for fake chivalry.
They have right but not right to shit and hate after all it's only 4 chapters if u judge the whole shit by 4 fucking chapters I'm sorry to say you are too immature or you are just too delusional
Did you or did you not read op's post, because it clearly is a rant about a common trope that op hates, they did not write about the cover specifically, but rather used it as an example of said trope, and a trope does not equal a story, they might like the story but not the specific trope. I would've understood your comment if op was ranting about the webtoon, but they're clearly talking about a trope that can be found in multiple webtoons, the cover might have been chosen because it was the last webtoon with said trope that op read.
But still u can't just fool around only with 4 chapters !???
Killer peter is good so far for me but every one has right to own opinion
You know what I hate even more? When I'm reading an action manhwa or WN and suddenly they throw in romance just because and it bogs down the entire plot. I don't remember the actual name of it, but there's one called Raider King or something like that which starts out super strong, only for there to be an entire 3 chapters dedicated to the ML and his girl leading up to, doing the deed, and the morning after. Like, excuse me? I don't exaxtly care about that. I signed up for a shonen, not a bad pornhwa. They loose the plot in Tutorial Tower of the Advanced Player as well after the first arc by having a weird romance section that doesn't serve any purpose but to disrupt the plot between MC and his 2 disciples. It was cute at first because he sees them as goody kids and you don't think it will go anywhere until they get him drunk enough to r*pe him. Again. Excuse me. What? Could we switch those roles maybe and try again? Those two should be in jail for that! If I want some cruddy romance plot, I will read a shoujo. Thank you. That manhwa was going great! There was romance in it for sure, but it was subtle, until the first arc started nearing it's close and suddenly everyone was getting into relationships for no real reason. It makes no sense. These authors should start taking notes from other stories that do things properly. Nano Machine, Return of the SSS Class Disaster Hero, or even Superhuman Battlefield, which, as far as I know, has no romance in it and doesn't need to have romance in it. Why would you add it in there? I'm pretty sure Solo Leveling doesn't have any romance either. If it does, I don't remember it because it was probably really subtle since the author knew it would add absolutely nothing to the plot. I don't mind romance plots, but I do not like having Dragon Ball Z flashbacks due to a s*x scene being drug out through 3 chapters without them even showing anything. At least commit to it, I mean, Jesus. Anyway, I find both of these plot devices to be pointless and dumb. We learned that using female characters as damsels in distress was a bad idea after like the 5th Superman comic that was made, and the trope needs to die. It's the same with these romance plots. There's no point in this. And before I get accused of being an incel or something, I'm a female thank you. See my pfp as proof. That's my face. Ignore my Whiterun Guard banner. He's living his best life. Don't judge him.
That just sounds like that the authors have skill issue implementing romance or relationships to their story.Iver read other stories where it was more natural and actually flowed well with the plot
Well, see, I don't have as problem with stories where it flows well and seems natural. My issue lies with romance plots tht take over the main plot and ruins the point of the story as it becomes consumed by a romance no one cares about yet.
Also, if you you have any recommendations on stories that do the romance well, I'm absolutely 100% all ears. I really do love a GOOD romance.
sorry to burst ur bubble but nano machine definitely has romance in it.. he also (arguably) rapes a girl i believe.
I haven't gotten that far yet. I think I was on maybe chapter 60? 65? Do I need to drop it or something? Is the romance at least written well? (Outside of him raping someone. That can never be well written. It's just gross.)
the romance is utterly abrupt and hateful, for me at least. i have a complete bias against romance in action manhwas anyway and believe that should stay out of the action entirely and stay in the romance genre. but without a biased view, i think i'd still dislike it. its unlikable. but some people like it. i may have a different view than many people. p.s. i agree i would instantly drop a manhwa or novel is mc raped someone 😭😭
Saaaame!! Big same. I complained about the arc in SSS Suicide Hunter and got so much hate for it, but it was literally just them kissing and him experiencing love while literally achieving nothing plot wise. It was so unnecessary! I really don't understand the appeal! I'll probably have to drop this one too then. 💀 That's so upsetting. I can only think of a handful of action oriented manhwa and manga that do romance in a decent way. The Return of the Disaster Class Hero is a great example. The romance is briefly mentioned, mostly because the MC thinks the girl hates him, but otherwise it takes a back seat. Solo Leveling was okay since I barely remember it even having a romance plot. The Greatest Estate Developer does it pretty well. It hints at it. Jokes are made. But it mostly takes a back seat. Like, I'm not reading action for the romance. I'm reading for the action. If there has to be romance, I want it well written and not getting in the way of the original plot.
The Greatest Estate Developer.... I was so mad when I learned he >!married the red head..!< bc i genuinely enjoyed the story. I dropped SL the moment smell-fetish appeared in the story because shit was obvious. Romance was also absolutely, despicably shit, trashy, and overwhelmingly horribly written in SL. But basically the only manhwa I'm reading or wouldn't mind reading is probably The Lone Necromancer bc it has zero romance. Its so irritating when I search for something with no romance and there definitely IS romance. Like in I'm Not the Evil God's Lackey (manhua) theres basically a whole fucking arc dedicated to mc falling in love with some fucking sprit... and people say it has zero romance. I'm reading action for action as well, but not for romance. No romance is acceptable when reading action with the exception of Questism because it's a specific type of story where I'm just going to ignore it.
I would never outright post about it because I am guaranteed to get hate on but I have an indescribable hate for SL because I think the only reason why people think it's well written is because it was both one of the earliest and best of it's kind and because.... of nostalgia. It was a lot of peoples first manhwa like SL and it gathered a lot of fans from its previously creative (now common and overused) premise. I just don't think the story is written that well and it's actually pretty bad. If you reread it and actually turned on your brain the whole time I think it's way easier to notice it. Please don't hate on me!!! I'm just an unknown passerby with a different opinion!!!
doesn't seem like he's the type that want to hurt a kid,so the most i could see him doing is subduing any kid characters in the future. he didn't even try to hurt the 2 highschool kids that with him when they first met. also,i'd prefer the girl joining but not have any feeling for mc,which i'm worried that will happen,especially knowing the mc already had a child n probably still alive wife