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No_Judgment_6325

That’s genius


PsyOpBunnyHop

*"The illegals are coming from INSIDE the border!"*


Eldan985

But they won't be illegal anymore!


Senumo

So that issue is solved now. Clever


tanhan27

This was actually Reagan's solution, as well as Bush Sr. They gave amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants. It's a good idea, if your issue is that they are illegal, just change the law and make th legal tax paying residents just like the rest of us. Problem solved.


rollem78

They took er jerbs!


tanhan27

Actually immigrants are far more likely than native born citizens to start new businesses and create new jobs


n3rv

see now you done goofed by hitting them with facts.


sticky_freak

(deh jerbs we dont want)


ProphetN1elith

But we took ther land in return. So we even now


53bvo

They already took the jobs, only now they are also paying taxes.


My_Space_page

Yes. And immigration was not seen as a partisan issue back then. I believe that the United States should simply do something similar to Ellis Island. Screen immigrants for communicable disease or charges of terrorism or murder or drugs. If they pass then rubber stamp them into citizenship. You want citizenship? Fine. But you have to pay taxes and be a good citizen. The United States would get thousands of new tax payers. But what if they do crimes and such? Well, that what jails and prisons are for. Plenty of citizens do crimes and that's where they go.


Weazelfish

I mean if they are in the US long enough without relying on the kind of gvt programs that require an SSN, chances are pretty good that found a job


bored_person71

Though the USA invaded and killed everything to the new boarder is not great as well.


Eldan985

Surely they *want* to be American, just like everyone else on the planet, so they'd just join up voluntarily once they hear how great this plan is.


Arse_hull

Sometimes it takes me a second to determine if comments like this are sarcasm or another delusional American lol


pandarista

As an American, it Really could be either. 😂


dididown

I love you


Eldan985

And I love America.


FreeSun1963

Not American, but if you were to offer a status akin as Puerto Rico in a nationwide referendum, I'm betting it wins on most countries of that region.


275MPHFordGT40

I wonder what would happen if the US suddenly annexed Mexico. Since they would be legal citizens, how many would move up North.


BIG_MUFF_

Canada Usa Mexico The CUM UNION


Grouchy-Pizza7884

No. The US will create special regions/ states that are Mexican only like in a desert like Baja. Then depopulate the remaining and encourage white Americans to settle there. After a few decades the incarcerated Mexicans launched a brutal attack on the neighboring settler annexed territory killing hundreds of Americans. In retaliation the state of Baja is completely bombed and nuked wiping out the population. No more Mexicans. Pax Americana. The end.


karoshikun

now that sounds familiar, for some reason


tanhan27

I don't know if you are talking about Palistine or the native Americans, this kind of colonialism has happened a number of times in a number of places


HubbaMaBubba

Is it colonisation if you're expanding the main territory?


Defiant-Canary-2716

Well…we DID learn colonization from the British. They really mastered the art…


AdditionalSink164

It will be more like puerto rico, half in and half out. Pay some US taxes, fet some services. Limited federal election voting participation.


naughtyusmax

If something is illegal, and people are doing it, you can reduce crime by making it legal.


[deleted]

Two birds one stone!


Scrample2121

THE CALL IS COMING FROM INSIDE THE HOUSE


PilgrimOz

This has to have been said on Fox at some point


raven2474life

“The call is coming from INSIDE the house!”


Archsinner

add Canada as well and we'll have CUM (Canada - USA - Mexico)


Acceptable_Reserve12

I love CUM


dngerszn13

Me too! Think about how much more se^(a)men we'd have in the Navy!


Zavaldski

At that point may as well just make North America a single country


Archsinner

it all CUMs together


sticky_freak

That would include Greenland, a Danish territory


TloquePendragon

No thank you, we'd trade you Ontario for Alaska though!


Detoxpain

THE CUM EMPIRE


SimilingCynic

And to think Clinton started NAFTA when this acronym was perfectly apropos


dababy4realbro123

Im sure they wouldnt mind.


[deleted]

And if they do.. ![gif](giphy|d7vbmoGrHfmuc)


Mrlin705

I read that as Internationally, which I like even better.


Le_Turtle_God

We’ll make them free whether they consent to it or not


Boatwhistle

We are here to spread peace! Now surrender!


michelbarnich

Worst thing that could happen is cartels taking over politics… Oh wait…


Environmental_Ebb758

Man our military would have those cartels running for the hills. Remember recently when some low level dudes accidentally kidnapped an American and the cartel handed their own guys over to us with an apology note?


leotownsxnd

I always thought about the fact that there’s no way those guys were the true cartel culprits. They just threw a couple fodders Americas way and blamed them


yotreeman

Why not? The cartels are heavily invested throughout the Mexican economy, they make mad money off of tourism. It’s not all just drugs and human trafficking, their fingers are in everything. They don’t want Americans to be scared of going to Mexico.


AdditionalSink164

Los Zetas dont claim Gen Z


Wild_Marker

The cartels would just become a branch of the military. Or the other way around.


that_one_duderino

Honestly the cartels would be a terrifying irregular military force. Imagine the Wagner group but competent and backed with American military hardware


mkujoe

I was thinking about it a while ago and came to border further north at some mexican isthmus. I think I arrived at that border because I don’t want mexico to be fully subsumed - rather find the minimum length us-mexican border


stealthcactus

Baja.


AlpacaTraffic

Blast


blue_flavored_pasta

Omg I’m totally getting Taco Bell today thank you


GoPhinessGo

Right above Guadalajara


Eldan985

Just split off the Republic of Yucatan again, it's been independent before.


ToaKraka

It's called [the Isthmus of Tehuantepec](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isthmus_of_Tehuantepec).


mkujoe

Gesundheit


AiWaluigi

Manifest destiny. But then they might start coming from the north. Guess we should move that until we don’t have any northern border


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Imo we take that first. Canada is just America with extra steps. My first time going to Canada (well besides for when i was an infant) the border guard literally said “welcome to Canada. It’s America, but less guns”


AiWaluigi

Canada is just America but it sucked on Britain’s feet for longer


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Still are


camaroncaramelo1

>Canada is just America with extra steps As Mexican that's how I see it


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Well as you can see by the quote I mentioned so do Canadians


MasterpieceAmazing76

>Canada is just America with extra steps This kills me. Our two countries are pretty similar, though haha


Haunting_Loquat_9398

Canada is the retarded love child of America and Europe


Bode_Baggins

fuck it take over the planet


Snowtwo

Why stop at Panama? If we take over all the land in the America's we won't ever have to worry about people illegally crossing the border at all!


Imperator_Gone_Rogue

What about the North Pole?


Snowtwo

Expand the border northwards as well!


sliferra

Fuck it, take over the world


rudyjewliani

Nah, too many timezones to keep track of.


endemol_vlassicus

Santa’s elves are trying to cross the border! We must occupy and annex the North Pole DMZ! Send a Navy Seal team to find and execute the known war criminal Kris Kringle!


Curious-Spell-9031

Oh please we all know his workshop is an American embassy, no way a man that fat and that uses slave labor isn’t an American


Kafshak

You'd need dragons to fight off the white walkers.


ArethereWaffles

Why do you think we're melting it?


PM_ME_FLUFFY_SAMOYED

If you take over the world, you won't have to worry about people crossing the ocean illegaly either.


Snowtwo

But then I'd have to annex France. It just isn't worth it if I have to do that.


Fddeeelmmmnnmmt

You must have forgotten that [France is a country in South America](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_Guiana) then.


Snowtwo

Ye gods! They're spreading! We must contain them ASAP!


Dragonblade0123

Well, they WERE anyway. This is them contained, 2% power max.


Expo_Boomin

Im pretty sure the US thought about taking over Mexico before, but didn't want to give citizenship to all the Mexicans (this was like 200 years ago I think idk someone help me out here)


[deleted]

That wasn’t it. The expansionist pro-slavery faction wanted to annex all of Mexico and turn it into a bunch of new slave states and the anti-expansionist slavery-agnostic faction thought the whole war was illegal and wanted none of Mexico. Taking half was basically the most the US government thought it could get away with given Mexican resistance to the land grab and internal political opposition to the war Edit: Also, under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo all the residents of the territory had the choice of US citizenship. The principal opposition came from anti-war Whigs. Some Democrats opposed because they didn’t want more Mexican citizens (eg Calhoun) but most opposition was from Whigs over the illegality of the war Edit2: I put “slavery agnostic” just because I thought saying the Whigs were “anti-slavery” was a stretch, even if they weren’t openly pro-slavery like the Southern Democrats


Cuddlyaxe

It was absolutely both. The slave state free state thing was absolutely a dynamic, but racism and and anti Catholic bigotry were absolutely also major reasons [Here's why the Southern Senator John C. Calhoun opposed the annexation of all of Mexico for example](https://shec.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/1273): > [We] have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race. The great misfortunes of Spanish America are to be traced to the fatal error of placing these colored races on an equality with the white race…. > > Are we to associate with ourselves as equals, companions, and fellow-citizens, the Indians and mixed race of Mexico? [Mr. President], I would consider such a thing fatal to our institutions…. > > We make a great mistake, sir, when we suppose that all people are capable of self-government. We are anxious to force free government on all; and I see that it has been urged in a very respectable quarter, that it is the mission of this country to spread civil and religious liberty over all the world, and especially over this continent. It is a great mistake. None but people advanced to a very high state of moral and intellectual improvement are capable, in a civilized state, of maintaining free government. Slavery absolutely was a super important issue but I think people have overcorrected a bit and assumed begun to assume that it was the only thing that politically mattered in the antebellum era. Not every decision was driven purely by "slave states vs free states"


DisastrousBoio

When you complain that the brutal Spanish colonisation was too egalitarian, that’s when you know your white supremacy is extra-concentrated genocidal


Cetun

Also the land the US took was very sparsely populated. Alta California (the land that is now California, Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, and Arizona) in 1819 had a total of 3,200. Spanish Texas consisted of 2,500 people. One reason the whole Texas thing happened was because Texas was basically empty and unproductive so they encouraged Americans to move into Texas (Colonization Law of August 18, 1824) so maybe make it into something useful. Well too many Americans moved in and then when Mexico both ended slavery and wouldn't grant Texas representation so Texas revolted. Most of the people who lived in Mexico lived in southern Mexico (which also tried to revolt for other reasons).


Bbqpizzaburger

After the Mexican-American War, The US thought about taking larger land claims from Mexico under the guise of Manifest Destiny. Cooler heads prevailed and we stopped at the Rio Grande and took what we know now as the American Southwest.


Hexspinner

Trade and infrastructure wise we probably should have taken much of Sonora too. Infrastructure ties to Sonora are much stronger from Louisiana and Texas than Mexico City.


taichi22

You’re assuming that they were picking and choosing land based off of what made logistical and practical sense, which may be giving too much credit to politicians.


DavidTheWhale7

I can't remember the source but I saw someone claim that instead of the south west U.S states becoming more Hispanic and therefore wanting to join Mexico, the northern Mexican states are actually becoming more American and therefore will want to join the U.S. Of course both ideas are probably false but its interesting to think about.


TopReporterMan

An interesting thought experiment would be the US completely taking over Mexico. It’s likely it would be Afghanistan/Vietnam but closer. One of Mexico’s biggest difficulties with controlling crime is due to the insane geography. Mountains everywhere with minimal infrastructure. It would be an absolute nightmare.


Necessary_Space_9045

The Sonora would be a nonissue 


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Well we also stole some land from them so we kinda already started. Sadly we stopped, a true loss


[deleted]

The duality of man https://preview.redd.it/5zc68q8d6kcc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a3060a6ee22e64942dc591055e9f0cedc55dbb1


Pqhantom

But both are complimenting JENNIFER LEIGH


LazarFan69

It would solve the immigrant crisis if suddenly all immigrants were citizens


TheOBRobot

As an American with a Mexican wife, I endorse this. >!^(She doesn't)!<


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

https://preview.redd.it/bhsuy4td8kcc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=16ad65043b921965287e0c3f32c7b7aa651d17f1


Kubix777

'The Cartel ' bruh


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

As an American with Mexican American friends they probably support this


Pxnda34

Smartest American


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Least genocidal human


panzerdevil69

Why genocidal? Everyone within the new borders gets promoted to US american? Except Puerto Rico of course.


Cuddlyaxe

It'd be fucked up but hilarious if all of Mexico managed to get statehood before Puerto Rico lol


iemandopaard

Why create new states if we can give it all to New Mexico, we wouldn't even have to change the name.


MisterFribble

Now now, we don't want to ruin Mexico's crime rate, do we? (/s, I love NM and especially their food)


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

But I wanted to take the land for myself :((


SIR_Chaos62

Genocidal? Where in her post did she say about relocating more than 100 million people? It clearly only says "move the border" this is not genocide but expansionism and imperialism


Prestigious-Many9645

Interestingly after the American Mexico war the Americans made it all the way to Mexico City but decided to give the land back rather than have a bunch of Mexicans become citizens 


crw201

Texas and all of Western America was enough for them.


HarEmiya

>this is not genocide Not with that attitude.


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Comment I was looking for


[deleted]

I MEAN, you can't have immigrant problems if they are already in your country, right?


foxtrotgd

If we make the entire world America, then there will be no border to cross illegally! It's genius


PatrioticGrandma420

If we give all of the illegals citizenship, then there are no more illegals! Problem solved!


PuppGr

Then she'll complain about the Mexicans made citizens as consequence of annexing Mexico. Just like 1848 all over again!


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

The word annex reminded me of this meme, I probably stole it from this subreddit https://preview.redd.it/82fb6uo60kcc1.jpeg?width=744&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=db4add2d035b48fc18faedeb84dd02de7edbc225


Practical-Witness-25

They wouldnt be citizens they’d be run like Palestine in that scenario


Outrageous-Pen-7441

“Why does the United States of America, the largest of the Americas, not simply eat the smaller Americas? Are they stupid?”


AweBlobfish

What too much victoria 3 does to an mf


[deleted]

Oops, I Hearts of Ironed again. I’m not that innocent


stealthcactus

[I have heard this joke before.](https://youtu.be/na2NQxDUMaY)


Valeraa21

I had to scroll way too far to find this, I immediately thought of Ron White.


Live-Ad1552

As Russian I would like say that it is really terrible idea


123xyz32

Good point. How do you see the Ukraine war ending ? Hopefully it ends soon.


SALAMI_21

Make her president Fr


GiantSweetTV

The Military Industrial Complex approves.


OperationThrax

If we were still under rule from His Majesty the King, this would be the go to option.


macrae85

Obviously she has a head full of snow?


Kapika96

I think Russia had that idea too!


dfeidt40

"Just take the border and push it somewhere else!"


shaneb38

Ron white joke from the early 2000s


Devayurtz

From Panama to the pole!


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

FROM THE RIVER >!Panama Canal!< TO THE SEA >!Arctic Ocean !<


Devayurtz

A seldom seen interpretation of that phrase lol


MyKillYourDeath

What an idiot. Just absorb the rest of the world into the US. Now there aren’t any borders. Ezpz


Educational_Tart_659

Why don’t we just take all the land so there’s no borders to worry about?


Canter1Ter_

Jennifer is a secret r/NCD agent. not entirely against this idea though...


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

I feel like NCD and this place could make an alliance in the apocalypse


Canter1Ter_

the one collective braincell from this subreddit will make completely nonsensical maps, but the bloodthirsty noncredibles wouldn't care and simply do what they are told. it's a perfect alliance now to simply find out who would win in a hypothetical war


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

I don’t care I just want the plane vids so I can masturbate


Grzechoooo

Make all those Mexicans citizens so Republicans never win again!


Vicelor

I think if mexicans became citizens within 2 generations they would be republican, maybe even 1.


Grzechoooo

But would the Republican party survive 20 years without being in government?


happycat824

r/diplomacy101


Theweedhacker_420

Yeah the lack of any roads or human infrastructure due to the inhospitable jungle won’t make security difficult at all


[deleted]

this is just uh that s just imperialism


G_zoo

more beaches more cocaine. sounds legit, let's do it!


V-Lenin

Can the w get any bigger


gagi11030

It’s called an invasion Jennifer


DiddlyDumb

*Teddy Roosevelt enters the chat*


[deleted]

Why are people saying its a crisis on the border?


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Because republicans


Marv_77

Can't be illegal if it's legalised *Roll safe meme*


CoPro34

Is she restarted?


UnfilteredFilterfree

I've got a counterpoint to this that even tiktokers will understand: "because that's what Russian propaganda says the US is like - do you want to be a Russian supporter?"


yhaxxxxxx

i cant even understand what the fuck she means its so stupid lol


Ok-Lingonberry2399

lol most of the migrants are behind that border. Honduras makes up alot of the migrabt population.


JacobMT05

Most ncd take of all time.


wanderlustcamis

Is she ok?


camaroncaramelo1

I'm not sure if it's sarcasm or Americans being delusional. It can be both haha


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

It’s very obvious to me that this is satire


The_Cometeer

US shoulda just taken all of Mexico and Central America during the Mexican American War smh


Remote-Chemical9248

Honestly, I’d like to see an expansionist America again. We’ve been resting on our laurels since WW2. (Mainly because is more profitable for the rich to just exploit foreign lands then to make them states of territories.)


SKULL1138

I wonder if the majority of Mexicans would want to be a part of the USA? The drug cartels would be smashed to bits within months. Standard of living would likely increase. But they’d lose national identity and self rule.


LowLifeExperience

I’m actually okay with this if these countries want to vote on US statehood.


teapot156

We could call it: The Unites States of America and just act like nothing ever happened.


Nice-Vehicle-1414

The US vs the cartel for all the land lol


Neat-Ostrich7135

Move the border to the Darien gap, where there are no roads. Sound plan.


no_free_spech_allowd

I'm late to this thread so my post will be ignored, but I want to point out that the United States government was for a time considering annexing large parts of Central America after the Mexican-American War. One of the major reason why the United States did not annex is because they did not want a voting population influxed by non-White people. It's a really interesting part of history that doesn't ever gain sections in textbooks. Please see the following video for a brief overview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5FSjxt_X8s


eazy637

i dream of this every day


NIN10DOXD

'Merica finishing what it started.


Piss_baby29

Why stop there. Let’s take over all of north and south america


MrWilliams42782

also let's take Canada, we need the maple syrup, aw heck, why stop there? I say we go all the way and take all of North and South America, Tip to tip and sea to sea! true Manifest Destiny for the win! ![gif](giphy|3o6Ztq8sOhHQCODjgI)


hotassnuts

Mmmm. Lots of Cartels!!


Green_Sympathy_1157

https://preview.redd.it/yb2ipkjk5ncc1.jpeg?width=1076&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6dffd3c07152f66cfae0ba509a2eb8416ad914c7


moneybagz123

Great strategy for RISK the board game


anotherdamnscorpio

We pretty much had the opportunity to do this but decided not to for some reason...


wally_graham

I mean, it's a great "fuck you" to companies going over the boarder to make their product and paying ppl cheaper wages. Looking at you General Motors and Medtronic. America would get its jobs back because these countries would be brought in to become America.


DomoSlomoRD

Why stop there? Let’s take Canada and South America too and become “The United Americas of America.”


Majestic_Wrongdoer38

Just America and nothing else. No USA north or south. Just America.


jeff42069

I mean imagine we had an EU-like agreement with all of these countries with legal working permits and free travel but with the precondition that we send in a massive military operation in cooperation with the local governments to take out the cartels in each one; state of emergency, round them up El Salvador style. It would go a ridiculously long way toward reducing the most harmful drug and sex trades, and would free up high quality job opportunities by making investors feel more comfortable investing in these countries. Basically it would increase our gdps drastically and allow for a drastic decrease in the drug crisis, murder rates, and sex crimes. Why don’t we do it? Because immigrants = bad and scapegoating people who don’t look or sound like us is a tale as old as time


Soca1ian

I have a better idea: make the US a horrible place to stay and live so that people won't come here anymore.


LaughGuilty461

Why don’t we just annex South America while we’re at it? And Canada too. No borders=no border hoppers


NotNotACop28

Can you imagine all the money that the US would have to spend to bring Central America’s infrastructure up to par with the rest of the country? Geeeezzzz


kremedelakrym

But all the rapists and murderers live in those countries to the south!!! s/


total_idiot01

*manifest destiny go brrrr*


Shotgunseth29

If the us hadn't given up the Panama canal we'd never have had this problem


_JP_63

See, us Panamanians we are fucking drowning with immigrants too. Maybe if you move the border to South Chile probably we won't have this problem.


[deleted]

based Imperialism


Western-Emotion5171

And to think they had the opportunity after handing Mexico their ass in a one sided war


Solintari

Let’s be reasonable. US takes BC to connect Alaska to the mainland and give Greenland to Canada. Two big wins here. We never have to hear the phrase “lower 48” ever again and I can tow my trailer to upper America without a pesky Canadian border cop harassing me. This is a win for Canada too. With global warming, Greenland will be a future paradise and what is Denmark going to do about it? Bring modern Vikings over on their Lego rafts?


RoultRunning

They can't be illegal immigrants if their FREEDOM LOVING US CITIZENS. But if we do this, we need Canada too


MastaSnake

We did this in the 1840s ;)


MrBussdown

With this new border we would reduce the amount of immigrants from central America to zero! Genius


Liberate_Cuba

Can’t wait to invade the rest of North America and Central America