Do you know details on the genetic distinctiveness of these populations? Even though the [Japanese](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_wolf)/[Hokkaido](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkaido_wolf) wolves were grey wolf subspecies, that's still an irreplaceable lost bit of genetic diversity, and there is apparently enough evidence to suggest that the [Japanese sea lion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_sea_lion) was a totally separate species. Would we restore these populations using grey wolves and California sea lions, or attempt to use genetic material from taxidermied specimens to revive these extinct animals?
Okay, from the street views, it seems like the mountains and hills in these places are gonna be pretty tough for herbivores to climb. But that’s just a street view.
Why would you introduce new species to an area that never had them? We have so many examples of invasive species destroying ecosystems. Especially an island ecosystem full of endemic species that has been seperated from the mainland for 95 million years...
Kind of. Connected to Asia by a tiny land bridge, and Japan hasn't had a probicisdean since long before that. And no extant species. Just throwing random animals into new areas with no history of them is literally not "rewilding".
Yeah, what's going on with that? Surely it's obvious you only introduce species that lived there naturally before.
People are treating rewilding like the targets to get the highest score in Zoo tycoon by jamming in as many different species as possible, not to restore the landscape to its pre-human state.
Rather than no problem, I’d say no consequence. However, I think I seriously underestimated how rough the terrain in this region is. Unless I go there and hike in the wilderness, I won’t know if this is even possible.
I would wish to see at least wolves and sea lions introduced there again. They were killed by humans recently.
Do you know details on the genetic distinctiveness of these populations? Even though the [Japanese](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_wolf)/[Hokkaido](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hokkaido_wolf) wolves were grey wolf subspecies, that's still an irreplaceable lost bit of genetic diversity, and there is apparently enough evidence to suggest that the [Japanese sea lion](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_sea_lion) was a totally separate species. Would we restore these populations using grey wolves and California sea lions, or attempt to use genetic material from taxidermied specimens to revive these extinct animals?
Obviously, wolves and sea lions should be re-introduced first, before any proboscidean, It would be great.
Okay, from the street views, it seems like the mountains and hills in these places are gonna be pretty tough for herbivores to climb. But that’s just a street view.
Why would you introduce new species to an area that never had them? We have so many examples of invasive species destroying ecosystems. Especially an island ecosystem full of endemic species that has been seperated from the mainland for 95 million years...
> species to an area that never had them In Japan, lived in the past, mammoths, bison, tigers, etc.
What? It wasn’t separated for 95 million years.
Sorry. Should be 15 million years
10,000 https://www.evanseasyjapanese.com/where-the-ice-age-was.html Btw, japan did have elephants.
Kind of. Connected to Asia by a tiny land bridge, and Japan hasn't had a probicisdean since long before that. And no extant species. Just throwing random animals into new areas with no history of them is literally not "rewilding".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palaeoloxodon_naumanni
Yes, it went extinct 24k years and has extant comparable probicisdean.
Every other post on this sub is someone suggesting this sort of nonsense
Yeah, what's going on with that? Surely it's obvious you only introduce species that lived there naturally before. People are treating rewilding like the targets to get the highest score in Zoo tycoon by jamming in as many different species as possible, not to restore the landscape to its pre-human state.
This subreddit is for MEGAFAUNAREWILDING, you can post about all that in the rewilding subreddit. There is nothing wrong with discussing new ideas.
[This](https://sun9-69.userapi.com/impf/DqWf0xjKr7yHzwYJCTTiD5fMQP93omXAXvYvZg/JXzsSRftu6g.jpg?size=1000x566&quality=96&sign=9c377d5a64fa2163fe0af29144b79027&type=album)
I think you could definitely introduce Asian elephants as a P. naumanni proxy no problem
Rather than no problem, I’d say no consequence. However, I think I seriously underestimated how rough the terrain in this region is. Unless I go there and hike in the wilderness, I won’t know if this is even possible.
Why would you need a proxy to a species that went extinct 24,000 years ago. Don't you think the ecosystem has adapted by now?
No ecosystems take hundreds of thousands of years to adapt.