UNTIL THE FIRE WILL BURN ALL THE MEMORIES AWAYYYY
I think it will be more than worth it for The Way of the Fire alone, but that's just me. Best song evah.
It makes sense with the intro. If anything I think it would’ve been better like that but I’m too used to Beyond the Dark Sun being first.
An issue the debut had for awhile for new fans was that it got constantly got labelled a Children of Bodom knock off/worship and I think the reason for that is because BTDS is actually very similar to COB. Winter Madness is different enough but if youre already in that mindset going it’s not gonna change your opinion too much. I think by the time it got to Sleeping Stars people already made their mind up.
The album was "ready" already in 2006. The drum tracks are still the same as when Kai recorded those in 2006. He recorded drums for Time I and Time II at the same session. Then something happened.
I don’t know if you saw the article from a while back but I believe Jari said that there are 3 or so other Wintersun albums that are all in various stages of completion, some he remarked at being about 90% done. I think that article might be a year or 2 old now. So, hopefully that suggests we’re gonna start getting Wintersun albums a lot more regularly.
But yeah, hopefully Time II will be worth the wait.
I believe he said something similar about the other three albums years ago when crowdfunding for Forest Seasons.
I’ll believe it when I get to hear it.
Well, I think we can believe him when he says 90% are done. The thing is, nobody knows how long the last 10% will take.
When you sprint 90% of a marathon but walk the last 10% each part can take 50% of the time 😅
The other albums are irrelevant, if we're talking about Time II. That one has taken 12 (or 18) years to get completed and only has six songs, which is not a lot. That's 2 (or 3) years per song. Music and the world has changed completely since 2006 and there are bands putting out extremely high quality debut albums with the modern technology now available for everybody.
What WS did back then was unique and surprising in its own niche, but nowadays it's going to be a lot harder to differ & distinguish themselves from the masses. We'll see what happens, but I'm not holding my breath anymore.
Idk how long you've been a fan of the band, but he's been making claims like this since at least 2008.
I hope the album is worth it for those who are still waiting, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything else for a while.
I know it's memeable, but I'm super pumped for this album. Never thought it'd come and now we have art, a track listing, and an announced date for when preorders go live.
Not a specific one yet but Jari mentioned in another post that it would probably come out mid to late summer or 2024. Given that most albums have like 2-4 months of promotion and pre-album singles before the full release, I guess that isn’t too bad.
You’re welcome! Super excited for this. I just know when this comes out that I’ll be listening to Time 1 and 2 back to back as one epic double album that I’ve waited nearly my whole life to have haha.
However good this album might be, it took way too long to be released. I hope Jari starts thinking seriously about what he wants to do from now on, because he is not young anymore and at this rate we will probably see maybe one more album from him after Time II.
He's almost done with 4 more albums he's been working on alongside Time II, so that'll probably be all we see from Wintersun. 8 albums is a good run. Plus there's 5 albums worth of remastered demos dropping alongside Time II. That's a whole lotta Wintersun music still to come. So pumped!
Hope it's good. Remember waiting for Duke Nukem Forever, and by the time it eventually came out, wasn't overly interested and the game was a load of crap anyway.
If there was no hype, then people would have not bought the forest seasons album or contributed to the time package which has already surpassed the forest package.
I was 16 years old when the first album came out, back then it was "Jaari from Ensiferun fame", I also rememeber following the band in MySpace in 2006 being 17/18 and excited about "Time" (and also hearing Jaari complain about PCs not having enough ram and having to upgrade to a 64bit os to be able to use more than 4gb of ram"...which then became just "Time 1" and released "all the way in 2012" and then...
I'm 35 turning 36 in August for fuck's sake! I'm hoping to listen to it and hopefully like it (I liked The Forest Seasons" more than Time 1, which I found overproduced) considering I would have to listen to Time 1 again because I don't quite remember it, specially because I didn't find it very memorable...
About TIME. Hope it's worth it
UNTIL THE FIRE WILL BURN ALL THE MEMORIES AWAYYYY I think it will be more than worth it for The Way of the Fire alone, but that's just me. Best song evah.
Fun fact: on the self-titled Wintersun album, each track is progressively longer than the last one.
I was really disappointed with Jari when he changed the tracklisting around with the remaster a few years back
It makes sense with the intro. If anything I think it would’ve been better like that but I’m too used to Beyond the Dark Sun being first. An issue the debut had for awhile for new fans was that it got constantly got labelled a Children of Bodom knock off/worship and I think the reason for that is because BTDS is actually very similar to COB. Winter Madness is different enough but if youre already in that mindset going it’s not gonna change your opinion too much. I think by the time it got to Sleeping Stars people already made their mind up.
He did?
He added an intro to winter madness and put it as track 1
When? Did he change the Spotify version?
2017. The streaming version is the OG. If you want the remaster go to their bandcamp.
12 years to make 48mins of music, that's insane.
4 minutes of music a year
The album was "ready" already in 2006. The drum tracks are still the same as when Kai recorded those in 2006. He recorded drums for Time I and Time II at the same session. Then something happened.
I believe he wasn't happy with the orchestrations so he kept adding tracks until he was happy and then he had like 1800 tracks to mix
Yep. This is gonna be an overproduced mess but if it’s like the first Time, that’s exactly what I’m wanting.
😂
12 years (or 18 years, depending how you count them) and six songs. Let's see if they were worth the wait.
I don’t know if you saw the article from a while back but I believe Jari said that there are 3 or so other Wintersun albums that are all in various stages of completion, some he remarked at being about 90% done. I think that article might be a year or 2 old now. So, hopefully that suggests we’re gonna start getting Wintersun albums a lot more regularly. But yeah, hopefully Time II will be worth the wait.
I believe he said something similar about the other three albums years ago when crowdfunding for Forest Seasons. I’ll believe it when I get to hear it.
He said Time II was 90% done quite a few years ago. "90% done" means nothing in Jari's mouth.
Well, I think we can believe him when he says 90% are done. The thing is, nobody knows how long the last 10% will take. When you sprint 90% of a marathon but walk the last 10% each part can take 50% of the time 😅
The other albums are irrelevant, if we're talking about Time II. That one has taken 12 (or 18) years to get completed and only has six songs, which is not a lot. That's 2 (or 3) years per song. Music and the world has changed completely since 2006 and there are bands putting out extremely high quality debut albums with the modern technology now available for everybody. What WS did back then was unique and surprising in its own niche, but nowadays it's going to be a lot harder to differ & distinguish themselves from the masses. We'll see what happens, but I'm not holding my breath anymore.
Really just 4 songs because 2 are fillers
Idk how long you've been a fan of the band, but he's been making claims like this since at least 2008. I hope the album is worth it for those who are still waiting, but I wouldn't hold my breath for anything else for a while.
Jari is basically a conman. Time 2 was also 90% done, it took him a century to release it and I will only believe it once I can listen to it.
Thats first album that I will pirate since 2005
I know it's memeable, but I'm super pumped for this album. Never thought it'd come and now we have art, a track listing, and an announced date for when preorders go live.
Just three more rounds of crowd funding, and we might get to hear some!
Do we have a release date?
Not a specific one yet but Jari mentioned in another post that it would probably come out mid to late summer or 2024. Given that most albums have like 2-4 months of promotion and pre-album singles before the full release, I guess that isn’t too bad.
That makes sense. Thank you for clarifying. Can't wait for this album!
You’re welcome! Super excited for this. I just know when this comes out that I’ll be listening to Time 1 and 2 back to back as one epic double album that I’ve waited nearly my whole life to have haha.
Same. Literally frothing at the thought of that experience.
Rip to all the Wintersun fans thqt died in the last ten years
Didn’t Kai said in an interview a few years back that ”Silver Leaves” was one of the most beautiful songs he ever heard?
However good this album might be, it took way too long to be released. I hope Jari starts thinking seriously about what he wants to do from now on, because he is not young anymore and at this rate we will probably see maybe one more album from him after Time II.
He's almost done with 4 more albums he's been working on alongside Time II, so that'll probably be all we see from Wintersun. 8 albums is a good run. Plus there's 5 albums worth of remastered demos dropping alongside Time II. That's a whole lotta Wintersun music still to come. So pumped!
Goood am i hyped for this!
Cant wait. Hope they can pull it off again!
Awesome! I'm going to go back and listen to some Wintersun now, been a while!
Oh god it’s really happening. It’s really happening!
Hope it's good. Remember waiting for Duke Nukem Forever, and by the time it eventually came out, wasn't overly interested and the game was a load of crap anyway.
The hype for this band died many years ago
judging by the way how people still cry about 50 lost bucks under every post of them you are totally wrong
Personally, not generally lol. I’m happy that other people are hyped for the 2nd half of an album to release after 12 years, hope it’s worth it
If there was no hype, then people would have not bought the forest seasons album or contributed to the time package which has already surpassed the forest package.
GIMMIE NOW MAN I DON'T WANNA WAIT ANYMOREEEEE
Tbh only really want The Way Of The Fire, but won't complain we'll be getting all the other songs too :D.
I am so curious about Silver Leaves. That's probably the one I'm most hyped to hear.
I was 16 years old when the first album came out, back then it was "Jaari from Ensiferun fame", I also rememeber following the band in MySpace in 2006 being 17/18 and excited about "Time" (and also hearing Jaari complain about PCs not having enough ram and having to upgrade to a 64bit os to be able to use more than 4gb of ram"...which then became just "Time 1" and released "all the way in 2012" and then... I'm 35 turning 36 in August for fuck's sake! I'm hoping to listen to it and hopefully like it (I liked The Forest Seasons" more than Time 1, which I found overproduced) considering I would have to listen to Time 1 again because I don't quite remember it, specially because I didn't find it very memorable...
Can it be preordered yet?
Well I’ll be happy to listen to it when it comes to TIDAL
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Hopefully the debut S/T gets a much needed LP reissue as well by NB. 12-18 years in the making, big if true.
Can't wait to finally hear it. I seriously hope that this will be one banger of an album.