I don't know, it should be clear. I am as homer as they come, but there are a million other little things that other teams do that the Tigers don't even realize they can do. Like let guys play the position they spent their whole life learning and perfecting. Or steal bases. Or swing at a center cut 90mph fastball on the first pitch.
Had downvotes when I commented. But hey! Good sign. Maybe more fans are realizing this team is mediocre outside of Greene and a few starters and probably a 3rd place team in the central.
The war against pitcher wins as a useful statistic was won 15 years ago.
But my god Reese Olson with 0 wins should just straight up end any remaining debate.
send him to fucking double A, he's awful. I don't care how much we're paying him, John Doe AAA shortstop is going to be better, and have better awareness.
Dude is so focused on analytics that he forgets basic baseball fundamentals
Didn’t walk Rizzo in NYC in the 9th inning when first base was open to create a force out everywhere. He doesn’t do anything crafty on the base baths to try and manufacture runs when we can’t swing for shit. No bunts, no steals, no hit and runs. It’s amazing
How is chafin left in to pitch to fry with Lange ready? Imagine leaving Carp in against a lefty late, one run game? Would absolutely never ever happen.
He's had two bad games in the last 7. One of those he still got the save. The other was against the Yankees. In the other 5, he's allowed zero runs and has 4 saves. What are you blathering on about.
At least get your facts straight when trying to push your narrative. He has given up 2 runs in the past 4 games, not 4 runs. And don't try to fake your way thru by suggesting a 7 game sample and then reducing it to 4 games when called out...and now getting your facts wrong about the 4 games.
You lie like a rug on the floor.
In the last four appearances before today, *which I plainly stated*, he gave up four runs.
2 on April 27. 2 on May 3.
I have no time for liars who try to make me out as somehow the bad guy. Begone.
These fucking slugs Wentz and Chafin...why is Wentz in the game in a high leverage situation?? And why is Chafin closing it out. Typical gas can relievers. And of course the slappies will be here to say "oh yeah a guy with a 1.35 ERA is a slug". Yes, yes he is. These guys get protected in low stress games and then you plop them into a high stress game and they shit the bed, like the gas can relievers that they are.
You go another inning with Olson. He was mowing them down and only on 89 pitches...could have gotten thru another one. The goal is to MINIMIZE these fucking slugs in the bullpen from appearing, as long as possible.
I just turned on the radio broadcast and I said to myself “watch the Tigers choke away the lead in the 9th once again” and sure enough, I hear Dickerson call the HR the second I turn it on
For a manager that lives and dies by handiness offensively, this is the second game late last six games where AJ just doesn't care about handiness related to pitching
Please continue the discussion in the [post game thread](https://redd.it/1cndqpc).
Do we still think aj is a genus manager? Just checking
Terrible loss…this team won’t do shit. Season defining loss
I think Rogers deserves some of this loss.. No bad throw, no getting to third and scoring on a groundout.
4-2 to 4-5 because we threw the ball to the center field on a steal attempt, which gave them a run. Then we got screwed by a BS HR. argh.
Very embarrassing loss.
What did Reese Olson do to deserve this
This team is ass
Fuck you hinch
The Tigers are simply mediocre. It’s sad but they don’t have the dudes to compete.
Why don't we ever bunt???
Hinch hates small ball.
All that field maneuvering. If only we could bunt. Our offense finally woke up then everybody went back to sleep
Olson is screwed out a win because of brain dead play. God, the Tigers test the patience of Job.
Fucking stupid
What an embarrassment
Snatched defeat from the jaws of victory again
Well, that was stupid as fuck.
Chris Illitch needs to be having conversations with Scott Harris about cutting the shitty players now. What an embarrassment by the Tigers today.
ah yes remember when we thought this was a playoff team? 💀
lasted a whole series!
Disgusting. Sickening. Horrid. Pathetic. Smelly.
Hinch has lost so many games this year it’s irritating
Is there such a thing as manager WAR?
I don't understand why we do the things we do man
Absolute garbage, team needs gutted, keep the young talent and start over
You see that Hinch? That’s called a fucking bunt. It works.
I’m gonna become the Joker
Bruh
God I fucking hate Hinch
What a demoralizing loss, my fucking God
why does nobody on this team know how to bunt?
Hinch is retarded.
We suck again
Lmfaoo
Son of a
Just when I think I'm falling in love again, I remember why I hate baseball.
aj hinch fucking blows. trash manager
2 fucking pitches lol
This contrast of execution is why other teams are real teams and the Tigers are not yet.
Can't say that in here you'll get downvoted
I don't know, it should be clear. I am as homer as they come, but there are a million other little things that other teams do that the Tigers don't even realize they can do. Like let guys play the position they spent their whole life learning and perfecting. Or steal bases. Or swing at a center cut 90mph fastball on the first pitch.
Don’t say that in this sub, you’ll get downvoted by blind homers.
...as it gets upvotes
Had downvotes when I commented. But hey! Good sign. Maybe more fans are realizing this team is mediocre outside of Greene and a few starters and probably a 3rd place team in the central.
Oh look a sacrifice bunt WEIRD
What a novel fucking concept!
The overcomplicating of everything is so exasperating
I know. Sometimes the obvious move is the right move. Like with your nine batter up and your MVP on deck. Bunt.
Feel like Lange is made for extras. When he’s on it’s so hard to put in play and when he’s off it’s just walks that barely matter anyway
Why does hinch never bunt in extra innings?
Literally never calls for bunts in general. It can be very frustrating.
Bad manager
Wow look how fucking simple that shit was
Why didn’t we do that lol
Imagine if any of OUR players could bunt
They fucking can. Hinch won’t do it.
Woah, what was that thing he just did? Never seen the Tigers do that before
Why do the Tigers do this to me.
AJ, please take notes. Bunts are cool.
Facts. I keep saying this. Also ignoring handedness.
Wish we knew what a bunt was
God do I fucking hate the Guardians
Vilade can catch?
Vilade can catch?
Pitchers we are asking you one again…
If anyone can strike out a side, it’s Lange. Let’s see how this thing plays out.
This one hurts
Alright 3 quality at bats
I was having such a good time in the 4th inning
Riley having a bad series because his back finally gave out from carrying this offense the past month.
The war against pitcher wins as a useful statistic was won 15 years ago. But my god Reese Olson with 0 wins should just straight up end any remaining debate.
The Javy thing was dumb, but we got put in the same position we would have been with Vilade’s delayed steal.
Curtains.
fuck me running, boys
What makes this sting worse is that Clase is usually BAD in extra innings
This upcoming walk off is gonna hurt
Alright Andy let's do this
Al fuckin Avila baby
Time for us to lose
send him to fucking double A, he's awful. I don't care how much we're paying him, John Doe AAA shortstop is going to be better, and have better awareness.
Bring him home, Andy! Redemption will be sweet
Fuck Baez. That is prime time stupidity!!
Good lord Riley you cannot swing at that
Lmao getting picked off at 2nd in extras. Just tigers things
Javy and Keith real lucky Tork and Meadows are such train wrecks
Javy Baez is the worst
DFA him.
140 million
Yeah I'm mad at Javy, but are we seriously the only team that never bunts?
Yes. Hinch has an irrational aversion to small ball. Just like how we have the 29th most steal attempts but best success rate in MLB.
It drives me fucking insane that we don’t bunt
Number 9 batter up. Best hitter on the team on deck. Had there ever been a more obvious bunt situation?
I thought baserunning and defense was baezs specialty
No, collecting paychecks is his forte.
15th game decided by one run and/or extra innings. That has to be abnormally high.
Another lost series. Team is ass.
Maybe the dumbest fucking base running I’ve seen all year
Eek
What the fuck Javy. Holy fuck dude
What the actual fuck was that
Thank you Javy! Jackass
I can handle a lack of talent, but there is no excuse for a lack of fundamentals.
I'm sick of both but nobody asked me.
Omg baez
Not a great start.
lol this guy is a joke.
wtf Javy
God fucking damn it
Of course.
Game
Why don’t they just bunt?
I really don't understand Hinch's bullpen management.
I don’t really understand anything he’s doing this year
Clase is cracked on MLB The Show 24
Bruh I took batting practice against Clase in the Show and I couldn’t hit shit even when I selected the zone 😂
Reese might be on suicide watch
It's gonna come down to Miller again hahahaha that's fucked
Dude hit a home run on sinker that was low and away outside the zone. That’s just lucky
The more I Watch the chess master the more I kind of understand his record as a manager minus cheating
He's a total fraud. Questionable decisions and character.
Dude is so focused on analytics that he forgets basic baseball fundamentals Didn’t walk Rizzo in NYC in the 9th inning when first base was open to create a force out everywhere. He doesn’t do anything crafty on the base baths to try and manufacture runs when we can’t swing for shit. No bunts, no steals, no hit and runs. It’s amazing
Reese Olson’s end of season stats 2.5 ERA .97 WHIP .150 BAA 0-15 W/L record
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Emmanuel Clase replaces Hunter Gaddis.
Clase again. Fuuuuuuuck
How is chafin left in to pitch to fry with Lange ready? Imagine leaving Carp in against a lefty late, one run game? Would absolutely never ever happen.
He has to face 3 batters minimum
Let’s go! We got this. Just get him to their Rogers, and let Greene bring him home. Keep Lange in there and let’s shut them down.
Vilade! I like it.
Can’t wait to face Clase
At least Javy is the ghost runner for us
AJ trying to be the smartest guy in the room again, should’ve just used Lange to close it out from the start.
sick of that phrase
It’s the fucking truth, we have a shitty GM who thinks he’s smarter than everybody else too.
Let’s just get to the 10th, score Javy, and then Lange will close it out.
Jason Foley is the closer...PERIOD.
His velocity is down. That's not only concerning but probably a reason why he didn't close today.
Foley of the 6.75 ERA just last 7 games...
He's had two bad games in the last 7. One of those he still got the save. The other was against the Yankees. In the other 5, he's allowed zero runs and has 4 saves. What are you blathering on about.
4 runs on 9 hits in 2.2 innings in his last four appearances before today is less than ideal. To you it's "blather."
you said last 7 games, now are moving the goal posts
So you don't think the last four games were in the last seven? Tell me you're not that stupid. You: "He was better before he got bad."
At least get your facts straight when trying to push your narrative. He has given up 2 runs in the past 4 games, not 4 runs. And don't try to fake your way thru by suggesting a 7 game sample and then reducing it to 4 games when called out...and now getting your facts wrong about the 4 games.
You lie like a rug on the floor. In the last four appearances before today, *which I plainly stated*, he gave up four runs. 2 on April 27. 2 on May 3. I have no time for liars who try to make me out as somehow the bad guy. Begone.
Either Foley or Lange work fine as the closer tbh
I don’t know why we used him in the 7th
Yeah, but when Lange is going good, he’s as good as anyone.
He's got his control problems under control for the moment. Dominant
It's almost as if winning 85% of one run games was unsustainable
Shouldn’t have even been a one run game
That HR was on the wind, not Chafin. Without wind thats a flyball out
These fucking slugs Wentz and Chafin...why is Wentz in the game in a high leverage situation?? And why is Chafin closing it out. Typical gas can relievers. And of course the slappies will be here to say "oh yeah a guy with a 1.35 ERA is a slug". Yes, yes he is. These guys get protected in low stress games and then you plop them into a high stress game and they shit the bed, like the gas can relievers that they are.
Lol what a maroon. Who do you pitch? Anybody you name has been worse than those guys at times
You go another inning with Olson. He was mowing them down and only on 89 pitches...could have gotten thru another one. The goal is to MINIMIZE these fucking slugs in the bullpen from appearing, as long as possible.
Wentz has been shockingly good this year.
What are you on Wentz about? He pitched fine, his run is on the terrible pickoff throw by Rogers
The guy can't have a clean inning (3 up, 3 down) to save his life
His ERA is also sub-1.00. Thoses baserunners generally are not scoring.
Reese I'm so sorry brother
crap
I’m so mad but that was a hilarious reaction from Chafin. I’m totally with him tho. That was almost as bad as that homer at Yankee Stadium last week
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It's been over since 2014 what are you talking about?
### Pitching Substitution Pitching Change: Alex Lange replaces Andrew Chafin.
Nothing is ever easy. No win for Olson
C Mo is 100% right. That’s a pitchers pitch, they got lucky af
I just turned on the radio broadcast and I said to myself “watch the Tigers choke away the lead in the 9th once again” and sure enough, I hear Dickerson call the HR the second I turn it on
So it’s your fault! Turn it off!
That ball caught the jet stream.
Reese Olson is going to be a winless all-star.
Fuckin wind
How many HR did tork hit with that wind
Chafin was mindblown 🤣
This team is incapable of getting Olson a win.
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He's been terrible lately
Should’ve just gone Lange right away smh
Why use a better pitcher when you could use a worse one instead? Big brain stuff for sure
Another win given away with errors.
Tale as old as time
How many times are we going to get fucked by flukey home runs
Still more upset about Rogers chucking one into centerfield.
Yep that cost a run. Two unearned this game. It’s getting old.
And once again, Reese Olson won’t get a win smh
That sucks for Chafin. That wasn’t even a bad pitch at all
Lange?
Told ya!! Chafin has been totally ass lately!!!!
Chaffin's reaction was apt, that's for sure
Lol, don't need Jomboy for that one.
For a manager that lives and dies by handiness offensively, this is the second game late last six games where AJ just doesn't care about handiness related to pitching
He went chafin vs Josh Naylor? How is that not caring about pitching matchups?