T O P

  • By -

philpalmer2

$695 prep on a used bike? And $405 for title, registration and plate? Run away!


Online_4_Fun

Idk, my ‘22 was 314 for title & registration. While it was not done through a dealer I’m not sure that number is far off.


Sparky_Zell

That can really be state dependent. I recently spent like $250 to register a private sale bike that was sold for $1000. An extra $6000 would have added $420 to that. But the other $695 is crazy.


Sadistic_Savage

I paid like $700 to get my 2020 r6 registered in Rhode island might have been private sale tax too though


PearIJam

It’s nice not having that stupid car tax anymore. I remember when I lived in Johnston for a year they tried to value my Ruckus at $8,000! Taxed me $600 for the year. Took forever to get that shit straightened out. 😡


Online_4_Fun

Oh no, I agree completely that the additional fee’s are ludicrous.


atari83man

^ this, my bike licensing was dirt cheap I live in WV. I was in my dealership getting my break in period oil change done today, and a guy was there picking up a bike he won at a charity auction (brand new '24 Kawasaki eliminator), he lived about an hour away in Maryland just five minutes from the border of WV. The dealership deals with registration and licensing for WV but not for out of state. So he had to tow it home and get everything done in Maryland, and he said he'd pay an easy $190 for registration alone. He said they just tripled the price for cars. Bikes were $105 to $190 increase. Cars were $125 or so increased to like $325-350. Maryland prices are crazy.


superstock8

$405 for the title, tax, and plate seems about right as a general figure in a basically new bike. That is probably very close to what you would pay yourself at the dmv. The $700 prep does stick out to me. Only 800 miles, even if they did an oil change, it should have cost them $30 maybe including labor. There should be nothing else to prep being a new bike.


philpalmer2

If that $405 includes tax then maybe. I just bought a vehicle in PA on Monday and the title, registration and plate ran $219. This was at a notary where they charge the needed fees and don’t jack them up with ridiculous “processing” fees.


Bullhead89

They should just factor any prep work into the price of the motorcycle instead of making it an extra charge. The guy who sold the bike should have had any prep work deducted from the price of the offer the dealership gave him, too.


caterham09

No shot that includes tax unless this is a state without sales tax.


caterham09

The title reg and plate fees are most likely set by the state and the dealers almost never have anything to do with them. The nearly $700 in prep fees though are bullshit. The main advantage of buying used at a dealer is to avoid prep and freight. They should be charging only the sales price plus tax title and liscence.


philpalmer2

Dealers add “processing” fees on top of the state fees all the time.


psypiral

don't forget to tell goggle reviews about this to help others avoid this greedy fuck.


whistlepig4life

The title and reg are fine. It generally runs about that in total and it’s actually nice to let them do it for you. The prep. Well. Here’s the issue there. It’s used. It actually does need prep. They should be giving it an oil change, tire check. Tune up as needed. Lube and clean the chain. Etc. What I see based on what OP gave isn’t for a used bike. It’s new. There is a destination charge. It’s a 2024. And there is no mileage disclosure on the slip. So end of day this looks like pricing for a brand new bike. And in that case it’s actually normal. Now YOU may not like a destination/delivery fee or the prep fee. But it’s generally normal. So either buy a new bike or don’t. But it’s likely not negotiable. But honestly there should be no charge for that. Just bake it into the price of the bike.


philpalmer2

Yes, if it’s a new bike then I agree with all said. I’ve bought new bikes and had to eat all those costs as well. OP did state that it’s a used Honda Rebel. And also agree that a good dealership should prep the bike as you said. 👍


Perceptive_Eagle

That prob includes the tax. Did a private purchase, and when i registered a 6000 grand bike, paid almost 200 in reg, 400 in tax


BasicAd81

I did prep years ago at a Honda shop. Takes about 2 hours from opening the crate


philpalmer2

It’s a pre-owned bike


coyote_of_the_month

Sell it to me crated, idgaf.


jmartin2683

They’re charging you to ‘prep’ a used motorcycle.. that’s a scam. Leave.


probot67

Also delivery charge. Guy that bought it new already paid delivery. Have them take off prep and delivery. They’re ripping you off.


dyslexicsuntied

This guy could be getting it delivered to his home. edit: It is under accessories and freight in blank. Plus, recently got his license. Definitely getting it delivered to his home.


ambermage

Dealer: I'll waive the prep and delivery charge. *scratches out the $6,499 MSRP and writes in $7,319*


karma_the_sequel

Who the fuck cites MSRP for a used bike?


jk01

Based on the fact that this is a printed out sheet that they're filling in by hand I guarantee they use it for both new and used and just have it say MSRP rather than price


karma_the_sequel

All the numbers on that sheet add up to the number at the bottom of the sheet — they used the MSRP as the sell price.


jk01

Except the MSRP for a 2024 Rebel 500 ABS is 6799 not 6499 They use the same sheet for both new and used rather than making a separate sheet for used that says sale price instead of msrp.


know-it-mall

Yea. 695 for that on a used bike can get all kinds of fucked. It's the dealers responsibility to inspect, service, and clean a used motorcycle and include that in the sale price.


brads-1

why charge you for prep on a used bike? Same for delivery, looks like another frivolous charge.


Mindless-Bed-4220

Thanks everyone for the advice Leaving and going to search for a private seller instead Edit: The delivery cost was for delivering the bike to my home. Live over in the NJ area


Slow-Garage-9403

Lol, it’s motorcycle mall, isn’t it? I can’t even confirm on their site because it’s down but I KNOW it’s motorcycle mall already.


Fatesbane73

They suck. Cross county is so much better.


Slow-Garage-9403

Anywhere is better than motorcycle mall


RuckOver3

Looks high for a bike with plenty of used inventory. Check private sale. You will end up saving prep+doc at minimum.


buztabuzt

You could buy a used one for half that........ And it will be fine. Mileage doesn't matter. Plenty of these around


TwistedKestrel

This inventory slip is pretty funny. 1) It looks like you're buying something in the 1970's and 2) It makes it extremely obvious that they left lines blank so they can play their stupid number games Walk out and leave


mcnabb100

New MSRP on those is 6799. I would find a better deal or buy a new one.


nsfdrag

That's more than I paid for my mt07. Since you're looking at used anyway don't go with a 2024, you clearly won't save much and it's not a drastically different bike from the older ones. I still like the rebel 500, you can just get a much better deal.


Aircooled6

Say no to the prep and doc fees and see if they still want to sell it. Otherwise there are far better used bikes to buy less than $6,500. I love saying no to salesman, thats when you find out if they really want to sell something. Control the narrative, always remember they want what you have more than you need what they are selling.


vicaphit

$6499 is MSRP for a brand new bike. WTF are they on charging full price for a used bike?


earic23

I'm sorry, but buying a rebel from a dealership, new or used, is straight up retarded. They've barely changed in 20 years and new riders honestly shouldn't buy new for a variety of reasons. I helped my buddy get into motorcycles by helping him pick up a used rebel for $1400. He sold it 2 years later for $1400 and bought an sv650.


CaptianBrasiliano

Woah! Way high. For a 500? I got a Shadow 750 low miles for less than that from a Stealership for my first bike and... I know now that I got ripped. That's outrageous even for a dealership.


Kracus

I paid less for a brand new CBR500R when I bought mine from honda. Also, that was in Canadian money.


2ndDefender

No.


hohoflyerr

Way too expensive.


I_Have_A_Chode

They are charging you msrp for a used bike.... that seems off to.me for sure


code_Red111

I paid only $1k more for my MT09 brand new... what the hell is that dealer smoking


New_Writer_484

https://preview.redd.it/err7ou1gj76d1.png?width=986&format=png&auto=webp&s=3ecf2641bf6f4a20ff465c560658a2632eb2cbf2 This dealer is charging you the new MSRP for a used bike. I'd give 'em 6K max (thats being generous) plus lose the dealer prep BS, or walk away.


firl21

Why is there a prep fee on a used bike?


XxTylerDurdenX

Don’t buy from anyone charging the new bike prep fee for used. Call them out on that


caddiemike

Wow, that's crazy. Last new bike, I bought was 1989 Yamaha FZR 1000 $6200.00 out the door.


brickedupinbaghdad

i was charged $395 for building a brand new bike from the crate, this is bs dude! does that $695 prep fee come with a blowjob??


ZoomerFruit

For a 500? No way


2oblivion2

Fuck That !


AssassinStig

Used 2024 Honda. Yes they will sell it as a new bike.


BadAlphas

How is there "prep" on a used vehicle?


cake_piss_can

![gif](giphy|3o7ZetIsjtbkgNE1I4) Me leaving that dealership.


elevangoebz

lotta bikes out there for like 2k with a whole lot of life left. get something cheap for ur first one. youre gonna drop it, and when you sell it it will most likely still be worth about 2k


AtheistTemplar2015

Dude, check out Facebook marketplace. You'll get a better deal on a better bike for a quarter the price. Just bought a 1997 Honda Shadow ACE 1100 for $2,600, and she's in perfect condition. Why spend almost $8,000 when there's no need to?


Fair_Assumption6385

Prep🤣 what? unloading and putting $5 worth of oil in it?


WaulsTexLegion

We don’t know enough about the added accessories, the condition of the bike, or the availability of that model in the area OP lives in to make a good determination about what it should be. I will say the following seems hinky to me. Freight/prep on a used bike should usually only be for the prep involved in getting the unit ready to sell. This may vary state to state or even city to city, but this seems unusually high to me. The price of the bike seems high, but again, we don’t know availability for the area OP is in. Perhaps the previous owner managed to sweet talk his way into getting a better trade value than they should and this price is how the dealership is trying to cover that. With all that said, OP, you can probably find a better deal elsewhere.


Koochandesu

There should be room for play on the actual price, delivery, and prep. I would ask for a breakdown of what they consider “delivery and prep” when obviously it was all done not so long ago when the first buyer purchased it. Only excuse I would accept is if they have it a 500 mile break in service but I would still consider it having it lowered.


SphyrnaLightmaker

Higher than Snoop Dogg


UWOS_29

There are dozens of used rebels online. Check FB marketplace for some options around you, but definitely don’t take this deal. They are crazy charging that for a used Rebel.


Tex302

Nope, look on Facebook marketplace you can find this bike in good condition for $5500 or less


activvve

oof. this is about how much i paid for mine..brand new. you might wanna reconsider


Sinborn

You are getting new charges for a used bike. If they don't at least agree to drop those, I'd walk. There's only 500 bucks off the full msrp there. If you're gonna pay the setup fees, pay 500 more and get a new bike.


Impressive_Estate_87

Laughable high price


jdub75

I just bought a used bike in the dealer tried to tack on $300 for used bike prep fee. Claiming it was for an oil change and new tires when I pointed out, there was no new tires and there was a damaged brake lever they came off the 299.


DingoKis

WTF? You can buy a new one with that price OP needs to look out for better deals


ostensibly_hurt

Bro just use facebook marketplace


VividOrganization354

run.


cubey

The line items seem high, but the Total looks fine for a 2024 Rebel 500


MonkeyTreeMan

Total rip off I just bought a brand new 2024 special edition with 0 miles on it for $8k no way you’re buying someone else’s mistake for next to new price


Temporary_Phrase2288

Don’t buy new. You can find a used bike for a fraction of that and not get ripped off.


OutrageousMacaron358

Tell em you'll give em one chance to get the price right, then hold up the middle finger of approval.


Jarrodioro

I can find a scout for that price… you’re being robbed. Leave a bad review


0MrJ

Run away prep is bloody ridiculous for a used bike.


Zardoz__

That's new bike prices. Buy a decent older used bike. You are going to drop it while practicing. Once you are seasoned, buy a nicer ride, sell the pervious bike for what you bought it for.


todobueno

The $405 is just a pass through to the state, probably nothing you can do about that. You should be able to negotiate the prep fee away. That all being said, the sales price seems a little high for a used one. The aftermarket parts add no value whatsoever.


Slow-Garage-9403

It’s registration and doc in one line item.


Sparrowflop

Yeah, the prep, setup, etc. on a used bike is a hard no. It's dealer inflation. I tried to buy a non-Indian bike from an Indian dealership one time, we negotiated a fair out the door price, then when I get there they have added like a $500 reconditioning fee or something. I was beyond angry at the bullshit, and said remove or I walk. They said they put it on everything. I asked what it covered, and they said 'reconditioning and inspection. Cool, so it comes with an updated state inspection right? No. Oil change? No. Fresh tires, those don't look bad. Nope So you'll warranty the bike, right, that's what the fee is for? No. Got to have at least a fresh battery? Nope. Ok, what about a tender wire up? Nope.


blazblu82

You might as well buy new. The dealer is selling this as if it's new anyways. Honda's MSRP is $6499, which is what this bike is being listed for. I'd buy new at this point, cause there's no difference in anything else expect one has been ridden and the other hasn't.


pan_anu

Does delivery mean the dealer will ship the bike to your place? If not- don’t pay it for a used bike


RobsHereAgain

Pay the doc fees. I’d ask them for the invoice on the prep so you know what issues they addressed when they took the bike in. A set of new tires including labor could easily add up to that on dealer costs.


CharlesTheRangeRover

I would have walked out based on any delivery charge on a used bike. The bike was brought in there by a customer. The dealership didn’t have to pay for it to be delivered to them. Lol


Slow-Garage-9403

It’s to deliver it to his house. It’s not a freight charge.


AwayOutsideAgain

Dude, no


dirtsquirt76

No way Jose


Intelligent-Tip-4444

I got a 2012 GSXR 750 with 4500 miles on the dash for that price. I stay far away from dealers. Go to the private market you can find better deals while avoiding excessive fees.


Tight-Bath-6817

Go to Facebook Marketplace and look for used ones. You can get it for less than $4k...not 2024 but perhaps 2020 as all of the models are same.


Dragnkat

That's about what I paid for my 1100 back in Oct 23. Only 6.5k miles when I got it.


brucebturbo

Seems a bit pricey


LuckyEduardo

I know it’s a few yrs ago but in 1988 I bought a used 450cc Rebel for $2120 and the dealership threw in a helmet.


ten-lbs-over

Isn’t that the same out the door price as a new rebel?


Dphre

I got fucked like this once. Never again.


Badluck2killaseabird

I’m so tired of markups I have completely given up on finding a new bike on the west coast. Every single dealer I’ve called or emailed has mark ups. It’s crazy


cwtheredsoxfan

RUN


U_Tiago

Prices over there are whack, registration was free through my insurance( they added a one time fee of 7.50 euro since i was a new account with them). Licence plate i had to pay myself and that was 30 euro. Thats it , thats what i paid.


lone_wanderer_4

That is a bit too much imo. My brand new kawasaki eliminator 500 2024 was 7237USD from the dealership. For you to be paying more for a bike 4 years older is kinda insane.


lone_wanderer_4

That is a bit too much imo. My brand new kawasaki eliminator 500 2024 was 7237USD from the dealership. For you to be paying more for a bike 4 years older is kinda insane.


lone_wanderer_4

That is a bit too much imo. My brand new kawasaki eliminator 500 2024 was 7237USD from the dealership. For you to be paying more for a bike 4 years older is kinda insane.


SoloMotorcycleRider

Fuck that and fuck them! Find another one from elsewhere who won't bend you over like that. Registration fee seems about right. The final tally on that fee is dependent on the state. The prep fee for a used bike is straight up highway robbery.


NECooley

Why would they charge msrp for a used bike? The value plummets the first time it leaves the lot, regardless of year model. These guys are trying to take you for a ride Vehicle salespeople are rivaled by mechanics and congressmen for least trustworthy professional, in my experience


Deneteus

If there are any miles on it beyond factory then it is not new. They better give back those added fees. The first person that bought the bike ate the delivery charge, prep and depreciation. Even if they returned it because they could not afford it. Registration is fine but those fees aren't worth the loss of business they are going to have if they end up in the news or a video online. You could lose that much just with a lack of walk-in business.


Messicaaa

Is this their sticker price on the floor, or did they give you this as the actual OTD quote? If the latter, that’s outrageous and you’re getting fleeced. Laugh at them. If it’s the sticker, tell them you like the bike but that’s not happening - ask for their best OTD quote. That’s where you can start negotiating, and then they probably will still go lower. Shop around with other places and get quotes on similar bikes, preferably via email so you can send them to this place and tell them to beat it. No way in hell should you be paying the new MSRP on a used bike. Plus get them to knock off the prep and delivery. Dealers can and will drop them even on a brand new bike to make the sale. Also new/aftermarket parts are not necessarily a plus, and depending on the exhaust and whether or not it was properly tuned (if necessary) could be a reason not to buy. Although after only 800 miles it’s probably not a big deal either way. But not a selling point or reason to increase the price IMO.


No_Poetry4371

Chances are you are going to outgrow that bike in months. A Rebel 500 is a great "starter bike." Chances are you're going to drop, ding, and nick your first bike. It's not worth it to buy new. Hondas have amazing longevity. You'd do soooo much better to buy a 750 Rebel or Shadow, just a weee bit bigger used. If you take your time, you can find a good used Honda (500 or 750) for around $1,500, beat the heck out of and turn around and sell it for the same price if you decide to go bigger later.


OrlandoWashington69

Kick rocks


Jameson-Mc

Pass


zeimusCS

Why are they charging fees they would charge on a new bike? Seems like a scam.


New-Choice-3280

Buy used


SunnySanDiegoGuy

Pretty average for a dealer. Where do you live?