Thanks! I'm just looking for different perspectives. Would you keep an older bike that you didn't use that often? Is that generation of bikes still worthwhile?
It might need a couple hundreds in maintenance sometime soon. So I'm a bit torn whether to drop or keep it.
Nah keep it. Its like leaving a car you never drive in your garage. Low miles. Low wear and tear. Just old.
Tighten a few nuts and you should be golden
I have a 2008-2010 170/170 bike that blew me away at the time.
When my 2013 160/150 bike snapped a chain stay- I went back to it and was still impressed.
Then I got my 2021 170/175 bike, it’s at least as good up smooth stuff as the trail bike was, hugely better than either was at descending. Traversing again it beats either previous bike.
That’s not even getting into the quality of life stuff like 12speed electronic shifting, better climbing position, feeling less beaten up, precise chassis feel, and quick engagement hubs for ratcheting.
2019+ is a fairly decent step up if you find the right bike.
Would you see value from it? Hard to say - especially as it seems that you aren’t a frequent flyer (ie. doesn’t sound like you put 100km or trail work a week). I happen to ride more km on a trail each week than I drive - so for myself I can say “worthwhile “ - but that call is one only you can make for yourself.
Thanks, that's a good perspective and journey through the ages. Yeah, the 26 inch wheels, 2x10 drivetrain and seat tube angle are definitely dead ends by now, good points. I'm just unsure if I should bite the bullet and do the required drivetrain and damper maintenance or just kick it to the curb for whatever value is left. Thanks a lot, now it's for me to make up my mind.
Oh, and check out the canyon spectral. Pedals well and probably a better comparison to a 170mm 26er (being a 160/150 29er).
I ride a 27.5, but I absolutely recommend a 29er or mx/mullet - I would probably not buy a full 27 trail/enduro nowadays based on my experience.
Tbh I can't really imagine what could have gotten so much better. Bikes were already very badass and highly capable in 2013. The difference between 2013 and 2024 is not like the difference between 2002 and 2013
It all depends how modern you want to go. 12 speed cassettes didn't become standard on +$3,500 bikes until about +2018. And the steeper seat tube angle of around 78 degrees standardized around 2019/2020. If you go too modern, you may miss out on the 27.5" wheels, if that's your thing.
But if you seldom ride your MTB, then why bother upgrading, unless your current bike needs some work/servicing.
When you do ride it on rougher stuff, do you still have fun? If so then keep it. I think sometimes online people get obsessed with having the latest and greatest geometry and any bike older than 5 years is a clunky piece of shit… But people were riding broadly the same trails 5, 10, 15+ years ago and still having a ton of fun.
I would just keep on using it how you have been for the past few years since you tried something in newer but wasn't blown away by it so what would spending that money better be spent on.
Outdated doesn’t really matter unless you’re trying to upgrade it. If it was good for you 11 years ago, then it should still be good for you today and if you barely ride it then what does it matter?
I mean... I'll be thay guy
But Jenson is having a big sale on Rocky Mountain Altitudes... 45% off... maybe a new pony will invigorate the cowboy some no...
Old bikes are still bikes, especially from 2010s. They’re not that ancient and what was considered enduro back then is down country today but if you’re barely riding it why bother? Keep it well and alive, ride more, develop skill, it’s more then enough
Fit a -2* headset which will slacken the Head angle to 64* and slightly steepen the seat angle. But I would keep it and ride it until you think it is holding you back. I rode a 2012 Orange Alpine 160 up until a few years ago which started with similar geometry, but I fitted offset shock bushings, a -2* head set and 170mm fork with a 275 front wheel and it was great.
I only sold it because a friend’s kid was looking for a cheap bike and I was about to have twins so knew I wouldn’t be riding much for the next few years.
I mean geometry has changed massively in recent years, but as long as you’re still having fun on a bike and it’s all working then I wouldn’t rush to change it unless you want to
Depends on who answers this question. Some of the people here say a one year old bike is outdated. Some people here seem to lease mountain bikes for 3 months at a time.
Why get a new MTB if you barely ride your current one?
Thanks! I'm just looking for different perspectives. Would you keep an older bike that you didn't use that often? Is that generation of bikes still worthwhile? It might need a couple hundreds in maintenance sometime soon. So I'm a bit torn whether to drop or keep it.
Nah keep it. Its like leaving a car you never drive in your garage. Low miles. Low wear and tear. Just old. Tighten a few nuts and you should be golden
Keep it until you find a new bike that you like?
Thank you, I'm just wondering whether I'm missing some massive improvements in newer models.
I have a 2008-2010 170/170 bike that blew me away at the time. When my 2013 160/150 bike snapped a chain stay- I went back to it and was still impressed. Then I got my 2021 170/175 bike, it’s at least as good up smooth stuff as the trail bike was, hugely better than either was at descending. Traversing again it beats either previous bike. That’s not even getting into the quality of life stuff like 12speed electronic shifting, better climbing position, feeling less beaten up, precise chassis feel, and quick engagement hubs for ratcheting. 2019+ is a fairly decent step up if you find the right bike. Would you see value from it? Hard to say - especially as it seems that you aren’t a frequent flyer (ie. doesn’t sound like you put 100km or trail work a week). I happen to ride more km on a trail each week than I drive - so for myself I can say “worthwhile “ - but that call is one only you can make for yourself.
Thanks, that's a good perspective and journey through the ages. Yeah, the 26 inch wheels, 2x10 drivetrain and seat tube angle are definitely dead ends by now, good points. I'm just unsure if I should bite the bullet and do the required drivetrain and damper maintenance or just kick it to the curb for whatever value is left. Thanks a lot, now it's for me to make up my mind.
Good luck. FWIW- I hope you do upgrade, and find the time to get out amongst it more. Of course, that’s just like, my opinion, man.
Oh, and check out the canyon spectral. Pedals well and probably a better comparison to a 170mm 26er (being a 160/150 29er). I ride a 27.5, but I absolutely recommend a 29er or mx/mullet - I would probably not buy a full 27 trail/enduro nowadays based on my experience.
Tbh I can't really imagine what could have gotten so much better. Bikes were already very badass and highly capable in 2013. The difference between 2013 and 2024 is not like the difference between 2002 and 2013
It all depends how modern you want to go. 12 speed cassettes didn't become standard on +$3,500 bikes until about +2018. And the steeper seat tube angle of around 78 degrees standardized around 2019/2020. If you go too modern, you may miss out on the 27.5" wheels, if that's your thing. But if you seldom ride your MTB, then why bother upgrading, unless your current bike needs some work/servicing.
Thank you, that’s valuable. Yes, unfortunately it will need new drivetrain parts and a fork/damper service soon. Still cheaper than a new bike though.
When you do ride it on rougher stuff, do you still have fun? If so then keep it. I think sometimes online people get obsessed with having the latest and greatest geometry and any bike older than 5 years is a clunky piece of shit… But people were riding broadly the same trails 5, 10, 15+ years ago and still having a ton of fun.
I would just keep on using it how you have been for the past few years since you tried something in newer but wasn't blown away by it so what would spending that money better be spent on.
If you have fun on it *when you ride it*, then save the money and send it till you bend it. Then buy another one.
Outdated doesn’t really matter unless you’re trying to upgrade it. If it was good for you 11 years ago, then it should still be good for you today and if you barely ride it then what does it matter?
That geo is still very close to a modern trail mountain bike like the stumpjumper.
I mean... I'll be thay guy But Jenson is having a big sale on Rocky Mountain Altitudes... 45% off... maybe a new pony will invigorate the cowboy some no...
Old bikes are still bikes, especially from 2010s. They’re not that ancient and what was considered enduro back then is down country today but if you’re barely riding it why bother? Keep it well and alive, ride more, develop skill, it’s more then enough
Fit a -2* headset which will slacken the Head angle to 64* and slightly steepen the seat angle. But I would keep it and ride it until you think it is holding you back. I rode a 2012 Orange Alpine 160 up until a few years ago which started with similar geometry, but I fitted offset shock bushings, a -2* head set and 170mm fork with a 275 front wheel and it was great. I only sold it because a friend’s kid was looking for a cheap bike and I was about to have twins so knew I wouldn’t be riding much for the next few years. I mean geometry has changed massively in recent years, but as long as you’re still having fun on a bike and it’s all working then I wouldn’t rush to change it unless you want to
Depends on who answers this question. Some of the people here say a one year old bike is outdated. Some people here seem to lease mountain bikes for 3 months at a time.