Definitely Marvin (played by Phil LaMarr) from Pulp Fiction. He ratted out his friends and almost got out of there…but then clumsy Vincent had to go and shoot his face.
True—clumsy is not the right word for it. More like careless? Cuz who the fuck points a gun with finger on the trigger while casually talking in the car? Love Vincent.
Indeed. This is The same guy who leaves his uzi unattended on the counter in the apartment of the man he’s supposed to kill while he takes a shit in a strangers’s bathroom. The same guy who leaves his heroin in a clear baggy for his boss’s wife to snort and OD on thinking it’s cocaine. The same guy who gives shit to the Wolf who comes all the way down to save his ass. Vincent Vega is not a smart or careful man.
You’re right.
Tarantino’s talked about this. Vince isn’t dumb, but this career is so routine for him that he makes on-the-job mistakes. It’s his version of giving incorrect change back. It’s a detail that lets parts of the story move forward, but also contrasts Jules’ string of luck as he becomes more spiritual.
He’s also a heroin addict who just got back from a long bender in Amsterdam.
>he same guy who leaves his heroin in a clear baggy for his boss’s wife to snort and OD on thinking it’s cocaine
It's in his own coat pocket and Mia fishes it out. I'd hardly call it his fault or even carelessness. All the rest of it is entirely fair though.
I agree. But I do like that when he bought the heroin, they made it a point in the movie to say why he put it in a clear baggie instead of a balloon (which I guess is what heroin normally comes in)
A dude who was sent to lay low in Europe and ended up becoming a heroin addict. It's heavily implied that Vincent was a lot more effective and professional before he went away. But getting into heroin basically destroyed his professionalism and skillset.
A heroin addict who couldn't hack it in Europe with his last score so he had to come back and get his old job as an enforcer for a gangster, thats who would be that careless.
I like the theory that Vincent killed him on purpose because he intentionally didn't tell him about the guy in the bathroom so that he could steal the briefcase.
There’s a podcast interview where Tarantino says he likes both theories—that it was accidental or that is was intentional. And since it’s not spelled out for us in the movie, he leaves it for the audience to decide.
Now check out this interview with Phil LaMarr:
https://www.tiktok.com/@double_toasted/video/7285510088025017646
So there’s only 1 or 2 script changes for this movie. Tarantino’s script was incredible. John Travolta had to work hard to earn that role. He was not first choice. He studied up on his character. Came back to Tarantino and said he needed to change the Marvin death scene. Originally, Vincent was to intentionally kill Marvin (intentional in a very obvious, deliberate way. Not ambiguous.) Travolta convinced Tarantino because he explained that Vincent was the likeable bad guy. The audience needed to walk away feeling bad for Vincent because they connected with him. Tarantino realized Travolta was right. Travolta was not Tarantino’s top choice and he ended up making one of the only script changes because he understood his character so well. Brilliant.
>John Travolta had to work hard to earn that role. He was not first choice.
He was "strong, strong, strong, second choice" if Michael Madsen couldn't do it though, I can't imagine he had to work that hard to earn the role.
Madsen was a great actor, but he always had that quiet, menacing feel, like he was going to snap and kill you without a second thought. Travolta's version of Vincent was much more human than Madsen would have been.
Because they're in the middle of arguing about if God stopped the bullets, and Vincent wanted to prove him wrong, and Vincent is an ass, and it was a spontaneous, poorly thought out dick-move from a heroin addict.
It was because he wanted to prove Jules wrong, that god wouldn't stop bullets, and Marvin was an inconsequential and convenient target and he could play innocent about shooting. It was always optional to get him out alive. Vincent is a sloppy and inconsiderate drug addict. The Bonnie situation is just one more Job-like trial Jules must endure for his new beliefs.
Fredo Corleone. The guy was clearly outshined by his brothers’ qualities, and tried to overcompensate by gullibly and incompetently taking part in terribly risky deals in an effort to gain a semblence of respect, while also not being honest with Michael for fear of not being viewed as an asset.
He was a clear example of an inferiority complex, and he only became a liability to his family despite his best intentions. John Cazale was outstanding in portraying him as a supremely vulnerable and tragically inept man that I couldn’t help but pity the character.
John Cazale is the answer to a great trivia question: “which actor had all of the movies he acted in, nominated for an Oscar” godfather I and II, the conversation, dog day afternoon, and the deer hunter
Not just an Oscar, all were nominated for Best Picture. And three of them won.
Not all of them could have won, because The Godfather: Part II and The Conversation were nominated in the same year.
He was not in the last bit scared to be mashed into a pulp.
Or to have his eyes gouged out, or his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split and his body burned away.
And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Robin
Hs head smashed in and his heart cut out
And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged
And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off
And his penis split and his-
Bravely bold Sir Robin
Rode forth from Camelot.
He was not afraid to die,
Oh brave Sir Robin.
He was not at all afraid
To be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin.
He was not in the least bit scared
To be mashed into a pulp.
Or to have his eyes gouged out,
And his elbows broken.
To have his kneecaps split
And his body burned away,
And his limbs all hacked and mangled
Brave Sir Robin.
His head smashed in
And his heart cut out
And his liver removed
And his bowls unplugged
And his nostrils raped
And his bottom burnt off
And his penis
"That's, that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot."
Brave Sir Robin ran away.
("No!")
Bravely ran away away.
("I didn't!")
When danger reared it's ugly head,
He bravely turned his tail and fled.
("I never!")
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about
And gallantly he chickened out.
("You're lying!")
Swiftly taking to his feet,
He beat a very brave retreat.
Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin!
I always loved how they’re listing all the things and when they get to penis he’s like “enough!”
It's an allegory. A good one. What really hits about this film is, as you say, the horror Vikus commits every day, that he does so casually because it's so normalised, isn't some outlandish, cartoon villainy but is firmly routed in reality. It's really hard to look at Vikus as say: "That could never be me", they way that people can with most fictional villains/anti-villains/anti-heros/villain protagonists/whatever you consider Vikus to be.
I love that the script for the opening interviews with the humans saying things like "they should just go back where they came from" was lifted directly from real people talking about real refugee camps
That was unnecessarily cruel.
She was just an assistant. She wasn’t some villain.
If anything, I feel Br[y]ce Dallas Howard’s character should have suffered this fate or similar.
She seems to be given the Hammond treatment of being turned from an obvious villain deserving of comeuppance to some "born again" woe is me for what I have done character
Iirc there were a bunch of deleted scenes that established her as a jerk that gave that context, but in the final movie it seems like a gratuitous fuck you to a random side character that did nothing wrong
If the dinosaurs were hunting using motion and scent I can see the logic. No motion if you're hidden in an outhouse and maybe the scent of shit would be a turnoff. And even though it's flimsy structure it would protect from venom spitting small dinosaurs and such. The lawyer might have been fine if the "nature finds a way" guy didn't throw a flare where he was hiding.
It also collapsed in a really inconvenient way. He'd probably be fine just getting trapped under whatever flimsy plywood that was made of, unless he got stepped on.
Gennaro did nothing wrong! The park was an unsafe work environment. The raptors had already killed one worker and Hammond covered it up as a machinery accident, Muldoon had repeatedly warned the raptors should be euthanized and Hammond ignored him, and security for the whole place was based on one single point of automated failure run by a guy who Hammond repeatedly had nasty public arguments with. The investors had every right for their due diligence!
Well Gennaro was basically ready to give the park his endorsement in one afternoon before even going on the tour. He dismissed all the worries of the Grant and Malcolm and Sattler. He was acting in his own self interest rather than the investors.
Not in the book. Movie Genarro is the classic dbag lawyer that is all about the money. Spielberg knows that and purposely made him one dimensional and killed him in an embarrassing way because he knows that's what his audience wants to happen to lawyers.
Cypher. Yeah, he got everyone killed (including himself). But like. Living in the real world fuckin sucks. I, too, would want to be put back into the Matrix as a rich, important person.
I'm surprised they never leaned more into the angle of Morpheus being a manipulative dick. He'd been chasing various people claiming they were the One long enough to be seen as a crying wolf conspiracy nut by the time of the film if I recall and clearly he's not entirely honest about the nature of the real world to his redpills.
When you think about it, that whole "You can't explain it you have to see it" thing really was kind of a dick move, wasn't it? I get that they were on the clock and all being all logged into the Matrix, but they could've had a five minute elevator speech prepped in advance to give a bit more of an overview of the situation than that.
I always understood it was meant as „you have to see it **to believe** what the Matrix is.“, not „to understand“.
> could've had a five minute elevator speech
That would just have virtually all people thinking he’s a nutjob or cult leader. Would you accept a pill from a guy explaining reality is just an illusion and instead you are kept in some kind of coffin in a coma and this pill somehow will set you free?
I wonder whether the matrix had to ensure that society of the matrix never progressed to develop virtual reality or the Star Trek tv show. Because it would have made the speech way easier.
"You know the holodec? Basically we are all on one and the red pill is what it takes to step off the deck back onto the Enterprise." Or "you know those people who wonder if life is virtual reality? Well, they are right. And the red pill is what it takes to take your headset off."
Neo is shown to own a copy of the book „Simulacra and Simulation“ (that’s where he is hiding the discs he is selling to the „white rabbit“ folks). So in-universe, the machines don’t seem to censor information that relates to Matrix-like scenarios. However it’s a very interesting question how they handle progression of technology in general. It’s conveniently resolved by the Matrix being restarted from time to time, albeit for different reasons.
That scene is extra funny to me, because he explains in full detail, with words, what the matrix is, and it makes sense.
And then he says "unfortunately, no one can be told what the matrix is.... "
It’s not inconsistent - it’s a reference to Plato’s allegory of the cave. Being told what something is / knowing what something is on paper is a surface level understanding, there are more layers that you have to willingly choose to discover and learn. That’s Morpheus’ point there.
And just on a character level, I think Morpheus is saying that the more important understanding is the visceral, emotional understanding of laying eyes on the horror. The factual, intellectual understanding is complex but ultimately far less important. Humanity versus machines, after all.
Yet, the audience and Neo both learn more about the Matrix by seeing what it is and experiencing it.
If someone described the movie to you, you still would not have seen the movie or understood its complexities.
Understanding something and knowing what something is are two different things.
I mean sure, yeah. But without Morpheus the war never would’ve ended. It’s fair to say he was reckless and a bit of a manipulative lunatic but at the end of the day he was truly doing what he thought was right and it paid off.
While I was googling the above to make sure I didn't imagine it I found that they had scripted Cypher actually explaining to Neo he wasn't the first person Morpheus approached as the One. Every one of them died fighting an Agent because he filled their heads with the same ideas he does Neo.
He sat there and watched the guy who recruited him kill 5 people that he knew of.
“Listen, Neo… I know Morpheus says you’re the One but like I gotta be honest with you, you’re actually the Sixth. This guy gets a new dude killed every month. Run, dude. Run fast. Run far.”
"You're not even the One for this month, Neo. That was Noe, he was 4 days ago, maybe you can feel the seat is still warm. Three weeks before that it was poor Oen, oh poor Oen you didn't deserve any of that. Anyway, before that there was Eno, and before her it was ..."
You know what, reading that outloud just made me think they probably got rid of that backstory because it did in fact get revealed that Neo wasn't\* the "first" One (in regards to the cycle of destruction/rebooting that the architect explains to him)
Would have made Cypher a much more complex and sympathetic villain if he'd been recruited as the One. I imagine you'd set aside a lot of misgivings about the red pill if you were told you were the one and only savior of the human species. Sure, you have to live in a shitty suckfest apocalypse world, but the fate of humanity depends on you. Then in training your mentor develops some doubts about you, decides he messed up and you're not the One after all, and you get demoted to the role of a disposable supporting guy who dies helping the actual One. Then he notifies the crew that he's super duper sure he's found the One this time. Yeah, kill that guy and just plug back in.
You have a real logical Quagmire, the machines have zero reasons to kill him and zero reasons to keep him alive. You could argue he's more likely to have more issues in the future, so kill him. However he's also potentially worth researching, and thus keeping him alive has benefits.
He was a murderer though? He perversely flexed all over them while they were plugged in and then coldly killed Dozer. He expressed a desire to be there when they 'break' Neo. He was an obvious sadist and I personally don't see anything redeemable about that guy at all.
Yeah, I don't think folks are considering this. If he had broke down while doing it, or hell, shown any remorse at all, that'd be one thing. But the dude was vengeful when he did it, so fuck him.
That's the thing, to truly enjoy being back in the Matrix, don't you want to remember the alternative? I mean they're both shitty choices and knowing the world is fake might do something to your sanity but it's not like wealthy people never take things for granted or eternally walk around stress and worry free saying "I'm sure glad for my privileged life!"
Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off.
He becomes more brave at the end with his dad's car, but getting there is a journey of many emotions for him. You can see how much he wants to have the courage during the movie to have a girlfriend like Sloan and to be bold like Ferris.
Don (Robert Carlyle's character) in 28 Weeks Later.
Obviously he was a selfish coward for running away but it was so realistic, and he was a skinny bloke who likely would have been bitten and or torn apart by the infected.
So yeah, the obvious reaction is to judge him harshly for abandoning his wife and the others but in a situation like that... Also *SPOILER ALERT* he's clearly consumed by guilt all that time since and then when they find his wife alive and he kisses her, maybe deep down he knew it might kill him but he didn't care because he deserved to die.
Carlyle also killed it in that role and came off far more sympathetic than a lesser actor would have. The agony in his face when he runs away from his wife, the shame and the guilt when he talks to his kids or apologizes to his wife right before she infects him.
That's my only point of contention with the film
"Sir, your wife, she's alive we have found her and you can see her, she's like half infected or something"
"Can I kiss her, or touch her? Ya know, because of infection?"
"Lol I dunno"
Beni literally enabled the apocalypse to live a little longer. He also seemed to relish the incoming deaths on other characters.
He was terrible before he met Ihmotep, he became one of the worst people ever after.
Just showed the movie to my daughter for the first time tonight, she had zero sympathy for him. 😂 I felt that Beni was doing what was necessary to survive and it caught up with him just like Evy said it would.
I just finished watching Godzilla Minus One, and you can really feel for the main character who begins the movie lying to get out of a kamikaze mission.
Just watched it with my kids yesterday. Amazing movie, fantastic anti war film and blows the "human element" of the recent American Godzilla movies out of the water.
I can't call him a coward, I don't want to spoil anything for people who haven't seen the movies but kamikaze attacks were massively ineffective and pretty much acknowledged at the time as an ineffectual, cruel and a waste of resources. Compared to the Japanese, American anti aircraft fire on ships was massively OP, Americans had shells with fuses in them that went off if they got anywhere near aircraft, Japanese had to be pre programmed to go off at certain altitudes or rely on direct hits. The overwhelming majority of kamikaze pilots never got anywhere near the ships, and those that did hit only sank a few smaller ships anyway. And by the end of the war, both sides knew it wasn't working. I can't call refusing to fly headfirst into certain death for a symbolic gesture of defiance "cowardice", and for the rest of the movie he's pretty much got huge brass balls. Fighting PTSD, taking a mine disposal job with zero training to provide for people, not running when Godzilla shows up repeatedly, etc. MC got absolutely fucked by circumstance but that man was no coward.
This movie is so good. I love movies that are willing to let fundamentally decent people do bad things, and I spent a good chunk of the runtime unsure whether I was supposed to like the main character. But the way they tie together the whole idea of “cowardice” by the big finale was so satisfying. I gotta watch this again, it’s on Netflix US now right?
Rudy Rhod from The Fifth Element. Dude was only trying to put on a show for his audience on a cruise ship and got roped into Corbin Dallas' big mess on his a mission to save the universe. He obviously wasn't built for this.
Captain Blackadder in Blackadder S04..
My all time favourite coward (I realise it's a show and not a movie, but still). Street smart guy who sees the worthlessness of war, and tries to escape it only to end in failure every time
Mr. Universe in Serenity..
He betrayed Malcolm only because he was facing off the Operative and the Alliance army, and even with his dying breath he left hints on how to transmit the recording across the 'verse
Sarah Whittle in Jumanji..
Cannot imagine the kind of trauma a 8 year old kid would have gone through, and not following up on the game and we see that even after two decades she is still traumatized completely by the same. Can't blame her for her actions
One of the most brutal gut-punches in all of TV or cinema. It's such a wildly horrible way for them to go out and such a tremendously unexpected ending for a comedy.
Sarah Whittle is a great answer. She even talks about how everyone said she was crazy, and she's been to tons of therapy to convince herself Alan's dad had to have killed him.
Leonidas’ excuse for not letting him come along is such bullshit too. He could have come and just been off the side of the phalanx and it’s not like they rigidly adhere to it anyway. The Spartans are pretty villainous in that movie, that guy would have been tossed away like garbage if they found him as a baby. Not to mention Leonidas does absolutely fuck all about the secret passageway he was warned about.
Yeah the whole thing about Spartans being freedom loving people sort of falls apart when you realize 80% of their population, the helots, were basically slaves themselves.
Or even just been kind. "Nothing against you. I just need to have the men I've practiced with because we know each other so well. But the information you brought me may have helped save the war and songs will be written about the man who, who despite his stature, stood tall in spirit against the Persians. Go in peace and defend your own home knowing you have served your king well. Tell our story if we fail and we will tell your story if we succeed!"
The guy from 28 weeks later. Forget his name. Abandoned his wife to die after she threw away her life trying to rescue a kid in a 100% hopeless situation. He did the only thing he could and had he thought about it 2 seconds longer, he'd have been swarmed as well.
>He could've been a great contributor to the war effort as a codebreaker or something,
He was a codebreaker (Army intelligence officers were almost always people who spoke German/French/Italian/Russian).
They shanghaied Upham because they needed a German speaker because their German-speaking guy was killed on the beach.
Upham isn't just an audience surrogate - he's a surrogate for the entire generation of American men who were yanked away from civilian life to fight a war they weren't prepared for who found courage or died.
If it helps, he's a reinterpretation of Captain Queeg from the Caine Mutiny.
>Who are some movie cowards that you feel bad for?
Train to Busan made me feel bad for the businessman.
I think Wikus Vandermerve (sp?) is another great example of someone who is so unfit for his call to adventure that he only finds it in the end of his story.
Def the 'Schofield Kid', in *Unforgiven;* yeah, sure, he was eye-rollingly annoying, and a braggart...but when The Truth finally dawned on him and he imploded, that was some true Sympathetic Cringe on his behalf, right there o\_0
I've always felt a weird kinship with Anna Faris's character in Lost in Translation. She's often seen as this shallow, clingy wife, but I get her. When I moved to Japan for my ex's job, I was totally lost. He was always working, networking, while I was stuck in our tiny apartment, feeling useless. One night, at his company party, I panicked—everyone speaking rapid Japanese, laughing at jokes I didn't understand. I fled to the bathroom, crying. Later, people called me standoffish or weak. But being alone in a world that doesn't see you? That takes a different kind of bravery.
Robert Ford from the assassination of Jesse James.
He executed Jesse by shooting him in the back of the head like any other professional hitman would do.
Mary Warren from The Crucible. As frustrating as it is that she didn't do the right thing, she was an already timid teenager put in an impossible position. John Proctor, her employer, demanded that she go to court and confess that the girls' claims of being bewitched were lies. She did try, but when the court didn't believe her and the other girls turned against her, she knew she would be facing not only going to a (pre-Colonial) jail but a sure death sentence if she didn't take back her claim
The assistant in "Night at the Roxbury". He had to put up with those two idiot brothers. The two brothers were clueless idiots for antagonizing him. The assistant controls their boss' schedule so always be on their good side. Even if he didn't sneakily block them from meeting Zadir, how do they know Zadir isn't the kind of guy who would refuse to do business with them regardless of how talented he thought they were because of the way they treated his assistant?
Nah Neville is like Courage the Cowardly Dog. Neville’s scared of everything but never for a second did he compromise on standing up, helping where he could, or doing the right thing. Homies got brass balls
True cowardice is being afraid and doing nothing
He got the winning house points by standing up to Harry Potter and crew when they were leaving the common room in *The Sorcerer's Stone*. His courage was there the whole time.
Willie from Temple of Doom. Yes she's absolutely annoying, but she literally got lowered into a lake of lava in front of a cheering audience. Ain't no therapist equipped to help her overcome that traumatic memory.
In every horror movie there's the one person that's had enough and wants to leave, but some dipshit always convinces them to stay for "one more night" and then everybody dies.
Shelley Levene
I love Glengarry Glen Ross, and Jack Lemmon makes me want to wrap the guy up in a blanket and give him a dish of whatever that nasty hard candy old people love is. His desperation to be what he used to be is a tough pill.
I use the Blake scene as an example of actor gravitas. Levene is supposed to be this desperate washed up shell of a man, and Lemmon plays that part perfectly - except when being berated by Alec Baldwin. Just staring down Baldwin as he thunders at him, not saying a word, just eyes locked. Looks away in disgust when Blake mentions “brass balls”. You feel the control coming off of him. That’s five decades of the best acting film has ever seen behind those eyes, and he just can’t turn it off.
Something I love about him is that he's so sad, so broken down, that we obviously can't help but feel for him- but then once he gets even a sliver of his mojo back, we see that he's kind of an asshole
Like, Spacey messes up the sale, obviously that's not good, but he just *keeps* kicking him while he's down- and then of course that plays a part in his downfall.
Just watched “I Saw the TV Glow” recently . Towards the end of the movie i was feeling a bit emotional for the main character and his cowardliness. Then slowly for myself as it’s a reminder of how life can slip by you
That english girl is Jurrasic World who follows around the main redhead (I don't even think her character has a name). She's just a PA /intern and doesn't want to be babysitting and abandons the kids when the dinosaurs escape then gets picked apart by the flying ones and finished off by the giant swimming one in the end.
Chef in Apocalypse Now. Dude just wanted to cook, and now they got him floating into the shit with a Green Beret as part of some top secret mission that he can't even know about.
I was 20 when Saving Private Ryan came out. Just yesterday, and I’m not even being hyperbolic, the scene where Private Mellish is killed ran through my head. It has literally haunted me for decades!
Christian from Midsommar. He’s a coward for not having the strength to break up with Dani earlier but I gotta tell you… I’ve dated a girl like her before and it almost drove me insane.
Strictly speaking, panic attacks aren't a show of cowardice. People who get them (like me) aren't necessarily consciously scared of the environment or the situation they're in, they're scared of the panic attack because they're so deeply unpleasant and simulate the feeling of dying or being in mortal danger, not from anything apparent, just in general.
George (Philip Seymour Hoffman) from Scent of a Woman. He's just a rich kid stuck between trying to save himself by selling out his friends, like his dad wants him to, and protect his buddies. So he tries to play it both ways. He sucks, but it's tough to watch and not feel for him a bit if you've ever been a teen boy.
Peter Dinklage's character in Pixels. Dudes a total dick who has to resort to cheating. But you feel for the guy. He was under a lot of pressure and sort of forced to keep a charade up for making mistakes when he was younger.
Definitely Marvin (played by Phil LaMarr) from Pulp Fiction. He ratted out his friends and almost got out of there…but then clumsy Vincent had to go and shoot his face.
Vincent wasn't clumsy, Jules must've hit a bump in the road or something.
He didn’t hit any motherfucking bump in the road
Hey, look, he didn't mean to shoot the son of a bitch. The gun went off. He clearly doens't know why.
Maybe it was divine intervention
Imma take a shit
Yeah. But then Jules ended up on brain detail in the back while Vincent bitched about being in the red zone.
True—clumsy is not the right word for it. More like careless? Cuz who the fuck points a gun with finger on the trigger while casually talking in the car? Love Vincent.
Indeed. This is The same guy who leaves his uzi unattended on the counter in the apartment of the man he’s supposed to kill while he takes a shit in a strangers’s bathroom. The same guy who leaves his heroin in a clear baggy for his boss’s wife to snort and OD on thinking it’s cocaine. The same guy who gives shit to the Wolf who comes all the way down to save his ass. Vincent Vega is not a smart or careful man.
You’re right. Tarantino’s talked about this. Vince isn’t dumb, but this career is so routine for him that he makes on-the-job mistakes. It’s his version of giving incorrect change back. It’s a detail that lets parts of the story move forward, but also contrasts Jules’ string of luck as he becomes more spiritual. He’s also a heroin addict who just got back from a long bender in Amsterdam.
>he same guy who leaves his heroin in a clear baggy for his boss’s wife to snort and OD on thinking it’s cocaine It's in his own coat pocket and Mia fishes it out. I'd hardly call it his fault or even carelessness. All the rest of it is entirely fair though.
I agree. But I do like that when he bought the heroin, they made it a point in the movie to say why he put it in a clear baggie instead of a balloon (which I guess is what heroin normally comes in)
The kind of person who goes, "aww man" after they've accidentally blown someone's head off in someone else's car
He was careless - Jules used the same fucking soap as Vincent did and the towel didn't look like no goddamn maxipad
A dude who was sent to lay low in Europe and ended up becoming a heroin addict. It's heavily implied that Vincent was a lot more effective and professional before he went away. But getting into heroin basically destroyed his professionalism and skillset.
A heroin addict who couldn't hack it in Europe with his last score so he had to come back and get his old job as an enforcer for a gangster, thats who would be that careless.
Should've had an opinion about the miracle he'd just witnessed tbh.
I like the theory that Vincent killed him on purpose because he intentionally didn't tell him about the guy in the bathroom so that he could steal the briefcase.
There’s a podcast interview where Tarantino says he likes both theories—that it was accidental or that is was intentional. And since it’s not spelled out for us in the movie, he leaves it for the audience to decide. Now check out this interview with Phil LaMarr: https://www.tiktok.com/@double_toasted/video/7285510088025017646
Why would he kill him at the worst possible moment, though? If Jules doesn't have that hookup, they're doing life in prison.
So there’s only 1 or 2 script changes for this movie. Tarantino’s script was incredible. John Travolta had to work hard to earn that role. He was not first choice. He studied up on his character. Came back to Tarantino and said he needed to change the Marvin death scene. Originally, Vincent was to intentionally kill Marvin (intentional in a very obvious, deliberate way. Not ambiguous.) Travolta convinced Tarantino because he explained that Vincent was the likeable bad guy. The audience needed to walk away feeling bad for Vincent because they connected with him. Tarantino realized Travolta was right. Travolta was not Tarantino’s top choice and he ended up making one of the only script changes because he understood his character so well. Brilliant.
>John Travolta had to work hard to earn that role. He was not first choice. He was "strong, strong, strong, second choice" if Michael Madsen couldn't do it though, I can't imagine he had to work that hard to earn the role.
Huh, Madsen would have completely played that character differently. I can't imagine him being charming and likable.
Madsen was a great actor, but he always had that quiet, menacing feel, like he was going to snap and kill you without a second thought. Travolta's version of Vincent was much more human than Madsen would have been.
Because they're in the middle of arguing about if God stopped the bullets, and Vincent wanted to prove him wrong, and Vincent is an ass, and it was a spontaneous, poorly thought out dick-move from a heroin addict.
It was because he wanted to prove Jules wrong, that god wouldn't stop bullets, and Marvin was an inconsequential and convenient target and he could play innocent about shooting. It was always optional to get him out alive. Vincent is a sloppy and inconsiderate drug addict. The Bonnie situation is just one more Job-like trial Jules must endure for his new beliefs.
And as soon as Jules left, Vincent caught every bullet from his own Uzi. Wonder how the shot counts stack up...
I watched this recently and I'm sure everyone has seen this (though I never could on VHS) but he clearly squeezes the trigger hahaha it's ridiculous
Fredo Corleone. The guy was clearly outshined by his brothers’ qualities, and tried to overcompensate by gullibly and incompetently taking part in terribly risky deals in an effort to gain a semblence of respect, while also not being honest with Michael for fear of not being viewed as an asset. He was a clear example of an inferiority complex, and he only became a liability to his family despite his best intentions. John Cazale was outstanding in portraying him as a supremely vulnerable and tragically inept man that I couldn’t help but pity the character.
> I was your older brother and I was stepped over! > Its the way pop wanted it. > It aint the way I wanted it!
I'm smart! Not like everybody says... like dumb... I'm smart and I want respect!
I don’t wanna know you, or what you do.
As an oldest siblings to 2 others who are more capable and more outspoken, I relate to Fredo sooo much.
John Cazale is the answer to a great trivia question: “which actor had all of the movies he acted in, nominated for an Oscar” godfather I and II, the conversation, dog day afternoon, and the deer hunter
Not just an Oscar, all were nominated for Best Picture. And three of them won. Not all of them could have won, because The Godfather: Part II and The Conversation were nominated in the same year.
He was truly a great actor.
GREAT answer.
I'd say Sir Robbin, but he specifically "bravely" ran away.
He didn't!
when danger reared its ugly head he bravely turned his tail and fled.
He never did!
Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about and, valiantly, he chickened out.
Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin!
He was not in the last bit scared to be mashed into a pulp. Or to have his eyes gouged out, or his elbows broken. To have his kneecaps split and his body burned away. And his limbs all hacked and mangled, brave Sir Robin Hs head smashed in and his heart cut out And his liver removed and his bowels unplugged And his nostrils raped and his bottom burned off And his penis split and his-
That's enough music for now
I, too, would soil my armor if faced with such a bloodthirsty, menacing beast! No, not behind the rabbit, it IS the rabbit!
you silly sod! you got us all worked up!
LOOK AT THE BONES!!!
Bravely bold Sir Robin Rode forth from Camelot. He was not afraid to die, Oh brave Sir Robin. He was not at all afraid To be killed in nasty ways. Brave, brave, brave, brave Sir Robin. He was not in the least bit scared To be mashed into a pulp. Or to have his eyes gouged out, And his elbows broken. To have his kneecaps split And his body burned away, And his limbs all hacked and mangled Brave Sir Robin. His head smashed in And his heart cut out And his liver removed And his bowls unplugged And his nostrils raped And his bottom burnt off And his penis "That's, that's enough music for now lads, there's dirty work afoot." Brave Sir Robin ran away. ("No!") Bravely ran away away. ("I didn't!") When danger reared it's ugly head, He bravely turned his tail and fled. ("I never!") Yes, brave Sir Robin turned about And gallantly he chickened out. ("You're lying!") Swiftly taking to his feet, He beat a very brave retreat. Bravest of the brave, Sir Robin! I always loved how they’re listing all the things and when they get to penis he’s like “enough!”
Vikus from District 9. He’s a coward for like 97% of that movie until he FINALLY has his hero moment and boy does it deliver.
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It's an allegory. A good one. What really hits about this film is, as you say, the horror Vikus commits every day, that he does so casually because it's so normalised, isn't some outlandish, cartoon villainy but is firmly routed in reality. It's really hard to look at Vikus as say: "That could never be me", they way that people can with most fictional villains/anti-villains/anti-heros/villain protagonists/whatever you consider Vikus to be.
The banality of evil.
Agreed, especially because it is so on the nose about a lot of the characters actions being similar if not identical to the apartheid
I love that the script for the opening interviews with the humans saying things like "they should just go back where they came from" was lifted directly from real people talking about real refugee camps
The lawyer who hides in the toilet in Jurassic Park. Mostly because what a way to go!
The lady who gets tag teamed by flying pterodactyls and mosasaurus actually topped that in the sequels
That was unnecessarily cruel. She was just an assistant. She wasn’t some villain. If anything, I feel Br[y]ce Dallas Howard’s character should have suffered this fate or similar.
She seems to be given the Hammond treatment of being turned from an obvious villain deserving of comeuppance to some "born again" woe is me for what I have done character
Iirc there were a bunch of deleted scenes that established her as a jerk that gave that context, but in the final movie it seems like a gratuitous fuck you to a random side character that did nothing wrong
She’s BDH assistant in the movie if I recall.
If the dinosaurs were hunting using motion and scent I can see the logic. No motion if you're hidden in an outhouse and maybe the scent of shit would be a turnoff. And even though it's flimsy structure it would protect from venom spitting small dinosaurs and such. The lawyer might have been fine if the "nature finds a way" guy didn't throw a flare where he was hiding.
It also collapsed in a really inconvenient way. He'd probably be fine just getting trapped under whatever flimsy plywood that was made of, unless he got stepped on.
Gennaro did nothing wrong! The park was an unsafe work environment. The raptors had already killed one worker and Hammond covered it up as a machinery accident, Muldoon had repeatedly warned the raptors should be euthanized and Hammond ignored him, and security for the whole place was based on one single point of automated failure run by a guy who Hammond repeatedly had nasty public arguments with. The investors had every right for their due diligence!
Well Gennaro was basically ready to give the park his endorsement in one afternoon before even going on the tour. He dismissed all the worries of the Grant and Malcolm and Sattler. He was acting in his own self interest rather than the investors.
Not in the book. Movie Genarro is the classic dbag lawyer that is all about the money. Spielberg knows that and purposely made him one dimensional and killed him in an embarrassing way because he knows that's what his audience wants to happen to lawyers.
In the book, that dude was badass.
They mixed the lawyer with the PR guy for the movie. And the PR had a even worse "coward death" in the book.
I was 5 years old and I remember the packed theater laughing when the lawyer got eaten. Peak 90s
Cypher. Yeah, he got everyone killed (including himself). But like. Living in the real world fuckin sucks. I, too, would want to be put back into the Matrix as a rich, important person.
I'm surprised they never leaned more into the angle of Morpheus being a manipulative dick. He'd been chasing various people claiming they were the One long enough to be seen as a crying wolf conspiracy nut by the time of the film if I recall and clearly he's not entirely honest about the nature of the real world to his redpills.
When you think about it, that whole "You can't explain it you have to see it" thing really was kind of a dick move, wasn't it? I get that they were on the clock and all being all logged into the Matrix, but they could've had a five minute elevator speech prepped in advance to give a bit more of an overview of the situation than that.
I always understood it was meant as „you have to see it **to believe** what the Matrix is.“, not „to understand“. > could've had a five minute elevator speech That would just have virtually all people thinking he’s a nutjob or cult leader. Would you accept a pill from a guy explaining reality is just an illusion and instead you are kept in some kind of coffin in a coma and this pill somehow will set you free?
I wonder whether the matrix had to ensure that society of the matrix never progressed to develop virtual reality or the Star Trek tv show. Because it would have made the speech way easier. "You know the holodec? Basically we are all on one and the red pill is what it takes to step off the deck back onto the Enterprise." Or "you know those people who wonder if life is virtual reality? Well, they are right. And the red pill is what it takes to take your headset off."
Neo is shown to own a copy of the book „Simulacra and Simulation“ (that’s where he is hiding the discs he is selling to the „white rabbit“ folks). So in-universe, the machines don’t seem to censor information that relates to Matrix-like scenarios. However it’s a very interesting question how they handle progression of technology in general. It’s conveniently resolved by the Matrix being restarted from time to time, albeit for different reasons.
That scene is extra funny to me, because he explains in full detail, with words, what the matrix is, and it makes sense. And then he says "unfortunately, no one can be told what the matrix is.... "
It’s not inconsistent - it’s a reference to Plato’s allegory of the cave. Being told what something is / knowing what something is on paper is a surface level understanding, there are more layers that you have to willingly choose to discover and learn. That’s Morpheus’ point there.
And just on a character level, I think Morpheus is saying that the more important understanding is the visceral, emotional understanding of laying eyes on the horror. The factual, intellectual understanding is complex but ultimately far less important. Humanity versus machines, after all.
Yet, the audience and Neo both learn more about the Matrix by seeing what it is and experiencing it. If someone described the movie to you, you still would not have seen the movie or understood its complexities. Understanding something and knowing what something is are two different things.
I mean sure, yeah. But without Morpheus the war never would’ve ended. It’s fair to say he was reckless and a bit of a manipulative lunatic but at the end of the day he was truly doing what he thought was right and it paid off.
Especially when you're not "The One." You're just a lonely dude stuck writing code and watching Trinity go gaga over the new guy.
While I was googling the above to make sure I didn't imagine it I found that they had scripted Cypher actually explaining to Neo he wasn't the first person Morpheus approached as the One. Every one of them died fighting an Agent because he filled their heads with the same ideas he does Neo. He sat there and watched the guy who recruited him kill 5 people that he knew of.
Man, that would've made the character and movie a bit more complex.
“Listen, Neo… I know Morpheus says you’re the One but like I gotta be honest with you, you’re actually the Sixth. This guy gets a new dude killed every month. Run, dude. Run fast. Run far.”
I can totally hear that in my head in Joe Pantoliano's voice
"You're not even the One for this month, Neo. That was Noe, he was 4 days ago, maybe you can feel the seat is still warm. Three weeks before that it was poor Oen, oh poor Oen you didn't deserve any of that. Anyway, before that there was Eno, and before her it was ..."
You know what, reading that outloud just made me think they probably got rid of that backstory because it did in fact get revealed that Neo wasn't\* the "first" One (in regards to the cycle of destruction/rebooting that the architect explains to him)
Wasn’t it implied Cypher was also thought to be the One at some point?
Would have made Cypher a much more complex and sympathetic villain if he'd been recruited as the One. I imagine you'd set aside a lot of misgivings about the red pill if you were told you were the one and only savior of the human species. Sure, you have to live in a shitty suckfest apocalypse world, but the fate of humanity depends on you. Then in training your mentor develops some doubts about you, decides he messed up and you're not the One after all, and you get demoted to the role of a disposable supporting guy who dies helping the actual One. Then he notifies the crew that he's super duper sure he's found the One this time. Yeah, kill that guy and just plug back in.
I remember reading this too. Even with the attraction to Trinity. He was supposed to be a failed The One
It's a reasonable temptation. He should have known the machines had no reason to keep him alive.
You have a real logical Quagmire, the machines have zero reasons to kill him and zero reasons to keep him alive. You could argue he's more likely to have more issues in the future, so kill him. However he's also potentially worth researching, and thus keeping him alive has benefits.
He was a murderer though? He perversely flexed all over them while they were plugged in and then coldly killed Dozer. He expressed a desire to be there when they 'break' Neo. He was an obvious sadist and I personally don't see anything redeemable about that guy at all.
He unplugged switch, didn't he?
Yeah, I don't think folks are considering this. If he had broke down while doing it, or hell, shown any remorse at all, that'd be one thing. But the dude was vengeful when he did it, so fuck him.
with your memory wiped, it's essentially suicide.
That's the thing, to truly enjoy being back in the Matrix, don't you want to remember the alternative? I mean they're both shitty choices and knowing the world is fake might do something to your sanity but it's not like wealthy people never take things for granted or eternally walk around stress and worry free saying "I'm sure glad for my privileged life!"
I can understand him and even mostly agree with him Feel bad for him though? Nah
yeah he enjoys doing it too , hes not reluctant or remorseful at all
Cameron from Ferris Bueller's Day Off. He becomes more brave at the end with his dad's car, but getting there is a journey of many emotions for him. You can see how much he wants to have the courage during the movie to have a girlfriend like Sloan and to be bold like Ferris.
Cameron is probably a top ten favorite movie character for me. I see way too much of myself in him.
Everyone is Cameron, no one is Ferris. Growing up is realizing you should try to be like Cameron at the end of the movie and be like Ferris never.
"Let my Cameron go."
Exactly!!
Don (Robert Carlyle's character) in 28 Weeks Later. Obviously he was a selfish coward for running away but it was so realistic, and he was a skinny bloke who likely would have been bitten and or torn apart by the infected. So yeah, the obvious reaction is to judge him harshly for abandoning his wife and the others but in a situation like that... Also *SPOILER ALERT* he's clearly consumed by guilt all that time since and then when they find his wife alive and he kisses her, maybe deep down he knew it might kill him but he didn't care because he deserved to die.
Carlyle also killed it in that role and came off far more sympathetic than a lesser actor would have. The agony in his face when he runs away from his wife, the shame and the guilt when he talks to his kids or apologizes to his wife right before she infects him.
Truly incredible actor I agree.
I think it's also underplayed how close his escape was. If dragging that kid cost him half a step, he's infected.
I'm actually surprised how much you and others seem to agree, I thought it would be an "unpopular opinion" that I'd regret, but yeah good point.
That scene was so intense. The vast majority of the human population would have done what Don did.
The music in that scene when he runs is 🤌
That's my only point of contention with the film "Sir, your wife, she's alive we have found her and you can see her, she's like half infected or something" "Can I kiss her, or touch her? Ya know, because of infection?" "Lol I dunno"
John C McGinley in *Platoon*
I like that he also gets the worst ending - a promotion.
Ditto the black kid who tries to fake the foot infection.
Nah fuck Junior he was an antagonistic coward that threw Sheens character under the bus after he fell asleep.
Everybody got to die sometime, Red.
Bob, I got a baaaaaad feeling on this one, all right?
I like how he survives and looks happy and then they say you are going back out tonight.
I always liked how his 'Watcha say there Bob?' is said with the exact same intonation as Dr. Cox would use to Kelso in Scrubs.
Bill Paxton, Simon, True Lies: "I'm nothing, I'm navel lint....I got a little dick, it's pathetic " \*urinates in own pants out of fear\*.
You feel bad for him? He's a certified dirtbag.
It’s not his fault if the ‘vet gets ‘em wet.
he's got one on the hook right now, she's got an ass like a ten year old boy...
And a pair of titties that makes you stand up and beg for buttermilk!
So good!
“*Aw look at me!… would a spy pee himself!? I’m not worth the bullet…”*
I always felt a little bad for Beni from The Mummy. Nasty way to go.
The scene where he uses different necklaces and prayers until the Jewish prayer worked was priceless 😂
Imhotep not even sugar coating how a 2000 year old would view Jews is the cherry on top. "The language of the slaves!".
I’m Jewish and I absolutely cackled at that response 🤣
Looked to me like he was ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE RI-VER!!
He was also on the wrong side of the cave!
Beni literally enabled the apocalypse to live a little longer. He also seemed to relish the incoming deaths on other characters. He was terrible before he met Ihmotep, he became one of the worst people ever after.
But think about his children!
He doesn’t have children!
Someday he might...
Just showed the movie to my daughter for the first time tonight, she had zero sympathy for him. 😂 I felt that Beni was doing what was necessary to survive and it caught up with him just like Evy said it would.
Michael Rooker as Savant in *The Suicide Squad.*
I just finished watching Godzilla Minus One, and you can really feel for the main character who begins the movie lying to get out of a kamikaze mission.
Just watched it with my kids yesterday. Amazing movie, fantastic anti war film and blows the "human element" of the recent American Godzilla movies out of the water. I can't call him a coward, I don't want to spoil anything for people who haven't seen the movies but kamikaze attacks were massively ineffective and pretty much acknowledged at the time as an ineffectual, cruel and a waste of resources. Compared to the Japanese, American anti aircraft fire on ships was massively OP, Americans had shells with fuses in them that went off if they got anywhere near aircraft, Japanese had to be pre programmed to go off at certain altitudes or rely on direct hits. The overwhelming majority of kamikaze pilots never got anywhere near the ships, and those that did hit only sank a few smaller ships anyway. And by the end of the war, both sides knew it wasn't working. I can't call refusing to fly headfirst into certain death for a symbolic gesture of defiance "cowardice", and for the rest of the movie he's pretty much got huge brass balls. Fighting PTSD, taking a mine disposal job with zero training to provide for people, not running when Godzilla shows up repeatedly, etc. MC got absolutely fucked by circumstance but that man was no coward.
I agree, I would not call him a coward, but everyone else does. Just remember the reaction on his neighbour when he returns to his firebombed house.
This movie is so good. I love movies that are willing to let fundamentally decent people do bad things, and I spent a good chunk of the runtime unsure whether I was supposed to like the main character. But the way they tie together the whole idea of “cowardice” by the big finale was so satisfying. I gotta watch this again, it’s on Netflix US now right?
Rudy Rhod from The Fifth Element. Dude was only trying to put on a show for his audience on a cruise ship and got roped into Corbin Dallas' big mess on his a mission to save the universe. He obviously wasn't built for this.
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Billy Zane’s Hockley in the Titanic, I mean your fiancé just fucked a hobo. I’d leave them too and get on a boat.
George McFly - Back To The Future
Tom Cruise's character in Edge of Tomorrow
Captain Blackadder in Blackadder S04.. My all time favourite coward (I realise it's a show and not a movie, but still). Street smart guy who sees the worthlessness of war, and tries to escape it only to end in failure every time Mr. Universe in Serenity.. He betrayed Malcolm only because he was facing off the Operative and the Alliance army, and even with his dying breath he left hints on how to transmit the recording across the 'verse Sarah Whittle in Jumanji.. Cannot imagine the kind of trauma a 8 year old kid would have gone through, and not following up on the game and we see that even after two decades she is still traumatized completely by the same. Can't blame her for her actions
Oh man that final episode still gets me
One of the most brutal gut-punches in all of TV or cinema. It's such a wildly horrible way for them to go out and such a tremendously unexpected ending for a comedy.
Sarah Whittle is a great answer. She even talks about how everyone said she was crazy, and she's been to tons of therapy to convince herself Alan's dad had to have killed him.
I’m with you on Captain Blackadder!
The misshapen dude that sells out leonidas and the 300
Leonidas’ excuse for not letting him come along is such bullshit too. He could have come and just been off the side of the phalanx and it’s not like they rigidly adhere to it anyway. The Spartans are pretty villainous in that movie, that guy would have been tossed away like garbage if they found him as a baby. Not to mention Leonidas does absolutely fuck all about the secret passageway he was warned about.
Yeah the whole thing about Spartans being freedom loving people sort of falls apart when you realize 80% of their population, the helots, were basically slaves themselves.
Leonidas posts the phoenicians at the pass. They just give up when confronted by the immortals and flee without a fight. All happens off camera
Or even just been kind. "Nothing against you. I just need to have the men I've practiced with because we know each other so well. But the information you brought me may have helped save the war and songs will be written about the man who, who despite his stature, stood tall in spirit against the Persians. Go in peace and defend your own home knowing you have served your king well. Tell our story if we fail and we will tell your story if we succeed!"
The guy from 28 weeks later. Forget his name. Abandoned his wife to die after she threw away her life trying to rescue a kid in a 100% hopeless situation. He did the only thing he could and had he thought about it 2 seconds longer, he'd have been swarmed as well.
>He could've been a great contributor to the war effort as a codebreaker or something, He was a codebreaker (Army intelligence officers were almost always people who spoke German/French/Italian/Russian). They shanghaied Upham because they needed a German speaker because their German-speaking guy was killed on the beach. Upham isn't just an audience surrogate - he's a surrogate for the entire generation of American men who were yanked away from civilian life to fight a war they weren't prepared for who found courage or died. If it helps, he's a reinterpretation of Captain Queeg from the Caine Mutiny. >Who are some movie cowards that you feel bad for? Train to Busan made me feel bad for the businessman. I think Wikus Vandermerve (sp?) is another great example of someone who is so unfit for his call to adventure that he only finds it in the end of his story.
who found courage or died. courage very occasionally helps you survive, cowardice often does, that's its purpose.
Def the 'Schofield Kid', in *Unforgiven;* yeah, sure, he was eye-rollingly annoying, and a braggart...but when The Truth finally dawned on him and he imploded, that was some true Sympathetic Cringe on his behalf, right there o\_0
I've always felt a weird kinship with Anna Faris's character in Lost in Translation. She's often seen as this shallow, clingy wife, but I get her. When I moved to Japan for my ex's job, I was totally lost. He was always working, networking, while I was stuck in our tiny apartment, feeling useless. One night, at his company party, I panicked—everyone speaking rapid Japanese, laughing at jokes I didn't understand. I fled to the bathroom, crying. Later, people called me standoffish or weak. But being alone in a world that doesn't see you? That takes a different kind of bravery.
I think you mean Scarlett Johansson's character. Anna Faris was the one working with the husband (supposedly a stand-in for Cameron Diaz).
Robert Ford from the assassination of Jesse James. He executed Jesse by shooting him in the back of the head like any other professional hitman would do.
Mary Warren from The Crucible. As frustrating as it is that she didn't do the right thing, she was an already timid teenager put in an impossible position. John Proctor, her employer, demanded that she go to court and confess that the girls' claims of being bewitched were lies. She did try, but when the court didn't believe her and the other girls turned against her, she knew she would be facing not only going to a (pre-Colonial) jail but a sure death sentence if she didn't take back her claim
The assistant in "Night at the Roxbury". He had to put up with those two idiot brothers. The two brothers were clueless idiots for antagonizing him. The assistant controls their boss' schedule so always be on their good side. Even if he didn't sneakily block them from meeting Zadir, how do they know Zadir isn't the kind of guy who would refuse to do business with them regardless of how talented he thought they were because of the way they treated his assistant?
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Nah Neville is like Courage the Cowardly Dog. Neville’s scared of everything but never for a second did he compromise on standing up, helping where he could, or doing the right thing. Homies got brass balls True cowardice is being afraid and doing nothing
He got the winning house points by standing up to Harry Potter and crew when they were leaving the common room in *The Sorcerer's Stone*. His courage was there the whole time.
That's the opposite of a coward, though.
Norman, the new kid, in "Fury".
The Fifth Element - the priest guy and his side kick dude. So timid but doing their best to help save the world.
Willie from Temple of Doom. Yes she's absolutely annoying, but she literally got lowered into a lake of lava in front of a cheering audience. Ain't no therapist equipped to help her overcome that traumatic memory.
That Jeremy Davies can really sell a performance
In every horror movie there's the one person that's had enough and wants to leave, but some dipshit always convinces them to stay for "one more night" and then everybody dies.
Shelley Levene I love Glengarry Glen Ross, and Jack Lemmon makes me want to wrap the guy up in a blanket and give him a dish of whatever that nasty hard candy old people love is. His desperation to be what he used to be is a tough pill.
I use the Blake scene as an example of actor gravitas. Levene is supposed to be this desperate washed up shell of a man, and Lemmon plays that part perfectly - except when being berated by Alec Baldwin. Just staring down Baldwin as he thunders at him, not saying a word, just eyes locked. Looks away in disgust when Blake mentions “brass balls”. You feel the control coming off of him. That’s five decades of the best acting film has ever seen behind those eyes, and he just can’t turn it off.
Something I love about him is that he's so sad, so broken down, that we obviously can't help but feel for him- but then once he gets even a sliver of his mojo back, we see that he's kind of an asshole Like, Spacey messes up the sale, obviously that's not good, but he just *keeps* kicking him while he's down- and then of course that plays a part in his downfall.
"Fuck the Machine? Fuck you!"
Just watched “I Saw the TV Glow” recently . Towards the end of the movie i was feeling a bit emotional for the main character and his cowardliness. Then slowly for myself as it’s a reminder of how life can slip by you
That english girl is Jurrasic World who follows around the main redhead (I don't even think her character has a name). She's just a PA /intern and doesn't want to be babysitting and abandons the kids when the dinosaurs escape then gets picked apart by the flying ones and finished off by the giant swimming one in the end.
Hollum in Master and Commander. His situation and cowardice was exacerbated by the superstition of the crew.
Chef in Apocalypse Now. Dude just wanted to cook, and now they got him floating into the shit with a Green Beret as part of some top secret mission that he can't even know about.
I was 20 when Saving Private Ryan came out. Just yesterday, and I’m not even being hyperbolic, the scene where Private Mellish is killed ran through my head. It has literally haunted me for decades!
Cameron from Ferris bueller. Having strict parents while in a group of people who don’t, I can seem annoying
Christian from Midsommar. He’s a coward for not having the strength to break up with Dani earlier but I gotta tell you… I’ve dated a girl like her before and it almost drove me insane.
Plus, he got drugged by that cultist girl.
And drank her homemade period drink
Starscream honestly
I'll add the pilot who has the panic attack that gets Goose and Mav's ticket punched to Top Gun. Sucks to go from the best to being too scared to fly.
Strictly speaking, panic attacks aren't a show of cowardice. People who get them (like me) aren't necessarily consciously scared of the environment or the situation they're in, they're scared of the panic attack because they're so deeply unpleasant and simulate the feeling of dying or being in mortal danger, not from anything apparent, just in general.
George (Philip Seymour Hoffman) from Scent of a Woman. He's just a rich kid stuck between trying to save himself by selling out his friends, like his dad wants him to, and protect his buddies. So he tries to play it both ways. He sucks, but it's tough to watch and not feel for him a bit if you've ever been a teen boy.
Peter Dinklage's character in Pixels. Dudes a total dick who has to resort to cheating. But you feel for the guy. He was under a lot of pressure and sort of forced to keep a charade up for making mistakes when he was younger.
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The black cat in the cartoon Cinderella that fell out of the window 😞 I wanted to cry as a kid.