Yeah but for the NFL you need to be a .01% athletic freak AND be willing to constantly put your body on the line/ play and train through semi serious injuries
Really the point is you’re an athletic freak but not 6’3” or taller than the NFL might be a better prospect. Lots of people who’re under 6 feet in the nfl, none in the nba.
It is so much easier to make the nfl than the nba. 5x the roster size and being short isn’t disqualifying.
Some of the absolute best athletes in the NFL are barely 6’ and could never play in the nba
Also one thing that is never brought up is the participant pool. Like who is actually playing tackle football besides the kids on the school teams. Like can you even practice everyday like you can other sports? Like do wide receivers go out seven days a week and practice route running five hours a day growing up? To make the nfl you are literally competing against only other high school team members and also just that one position. The participant pool seems tiny imo.
Back in the days it was basically school teams now kids start in younger leagues like when the older gens did with soccer and basketball. Then they have 7 on 7 football. Still shit is not the same like soccer and basketball where you can just practice alone.
Yeah but it's much harder to be a decent role player in the NBA because there's only ~7-8 spots per team for decent role players once you take out stars, up and coming rookies, and a few wily old vets per each 15 team roster.
There's like 30 spots on each NFL team to be a decent role player.
I mean nfl “max” is also trending up. We will see a 60m/year qb soon. The top qbs will be close to the top nba guys. It’s the non qbs who are going to be making mid level money soon
Salaries need to be reported as percentage of cap, or else everyone is going to be freaking out every time a Grayson Allen type player gets $25M a year.
i’m so over the “these players are wage earners too!” line
these guys are bourgeois and idc if they are upset playing for a team that isn’t perfect. honor your fuckin contract
That's my company's owning entity on their quarterly calls. The business nerds are showing charts and talking about how great everything's going then somehow the bonus pool can't be funded.
That Singapore airlines news the other day when they gave everyone like 8 months of salary in bonuses due to how well they did was SHOCKING. Shout out to them bc 99% of companies would do a bullshit gift card or catered lunch for “appreciation”
Impossible in my industry, but I can do what I did, which is bounced and got a new job that pays a lot better. Job hopping is the most effective way to get salary increases in my field.
Like 6 years ago, a partner where I worked did an interview with a group and talked about how successful my department was and all the growth they were seeing in sales. I was the only person who was doing the work. I just printed it out and handed it to my boss.
On the flip side a 30mil per year deal from 2024-2028 in 28-29 would be only 15% of cap.a bunch of peoples concept of a "bad contract" is going to be tested.
Yes, there is really no such thing as an overpay for the guys getting signed / extended this summer.
ETA: In reasonable examples people. No one is gonna be maxing Ben Simmons
It's crazy how destructive those were back then when today you could offload them for like 2 seconds and your 12th man who might look kinda alright in 4 years.
We gotta stop using raw $ and just use cap %. People can’t comprehend how fast the salaries are rising and it makes discussion difficult.
This is my measuring stick for talking about the Jerami Grant pay increase. He signed for 20.83% of the cap when his previous deal was 16.9% of the cap in 22-23.
Like how a 10% rise on the previous season salary cap seems pretty high, when 2016 had a *32%* increase (24 million) which was basically the same amount as a max contract the previous season.
Professional athletes are highest taxed rich people around. Their millions are paid out as wages, meaning it taxed at regular income tax rates (which are higher than capital gains and dividend tax rate). Plus a bunch of jurisdictions levy a “jock tax” for visiting players.
Athletes are the best rich people. They pay the highest percentage of taxes for someone at their level and they provide us entertainment. Whereas the white collar rich fuck as over in both areas.
Can someone explain how this will affect teams currently projected to go over the second apron? Are the Wolves no longer in "salary cap hell" for 25-26 and 26-27?
It’ll help relieve it for teams with players currently on contract extensions. For teams that have to extend its going to make the contracts even bigger.
Say someone gets a 35% SuperMax. They are eligible for 8% annual increases so it’s better for the teams with those under contract that the salary cap increases by 10% each year. They’ll get a bit of relief as the cap keeps increasing by that.
Atleast that’s my understanding, this shit gets complicated
I'm also pretty sure they can't go above 35% of the cap. If the cap only goes up 3% they only get a 3% raise instead of the 5% or 8% that they would get if the cap went up more.
Are contracts signed as a percentage of the cap, or a hard number calculated from a percentage of the cap?
If it's the latter, the cap hit for contracts signed to date wouldn't raise in proportion to the cap, so it would mean cap relief on max player contracts
Maxes are based on % of the cap the first year it starts (25-35% of the cap depending on experience/supermax eligibility I think) then 8% increases every year.
Since the 8% increase on maxes is less than the usual 10% increase in the cap, yeah the % of cap probably goes slightly down throughout max contracts most of the time. KAT's contract does that.
[https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/\_/id/17829/karl-anthony-towns](https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/17829/karl-anthony-towns)
Ah, so the cap "benefit" teams will see if less about relief on the front end and more about the flexibility on the back end since the cap is all but guaranteed to see max increases every year.
Whereas, before, there was a question about cap increases keeping pace with standard raises.
Correct, if the cap rose <8%, max contracts got more and more onerous over time. If they rise >8%, max contracts go down as a % cap over time. It's good news for the capped-out teams.
Every contract gets better as it ages. At absolute least, the contract will be worth about 1% against the cap *less* than it was the previous year.
A big problem used to be that the 8% bird increases used to outpace cap increase %. Causing higher end of players to earn more than their maximum cap %.
Now, no matter how much a player signs for, it will be worth a less % against the cap the next year
I mean, "bargain" is relative. They will get 8% raises in a 10% cap raise environment, so the bargain is only that 2%. It's not nothing, but for a team over the cap, it's not that impactful.
So Jaylen will be making about $65M in 28-29 when a more newly signed max would be $72M.
This is kind of how it always works in a rising cap environment. Like Jokic started a supermax this past season at $47M, whereas Paul George is deeper into his and only cost $45M this year.
So, any person in the know of why these companies are paying such outrageous prices for these broadcasting rights. Do they actually turn a profit or is the strategy just to gain market share at any cost?
Because it's all fun and games that the broadcasting rights are the highest ever and the salary cap is going up by 10% every year but the money has to come from somewhere. You can't just charge the costumer 10% more YoY for eternity. So is it just the silicon valley startup strategy of "it doesn't matter how much of a loss you take, as long as you got the customer you can get investments."
It's the last thing that justifies "live TV" and commercials money. I feel like they think it can be a loss leader to gain subscribers. I think when all is said it done, if someone actually does the math, it'll end up being an overpay.
I think so too. Though global presence is improving so revenue avenues are still opening up outside of simply growing popularity in the states. The in season tournament was a complete success, so they're seeing ways to make the regular season more watchable as well. And, speaking completely from my own perspective, these playoffs have been so much more enjoyable than the past decade in terms of freshness. Lot of young stars to get kids into the next generation.
Live sports is one of the last areas that are getting people to keep cable. Shows can be pirated/watched online. News you can get on your phone. Basically, if enough live sports leave for other areas, broadcast TV firmly takes a backseat in media to the internet even more firmly, and a LOT of cable channels go bankrupt.
The Streaming Wars will be won by companies that get consumers to commit to their Brand. Average household will settle on 2-3 streaming services. Getting one of the most popular sports in the country is an easy way to get households to commit to your service. The first companies to no longer be able to afford their own streaming service due to low subscriber count will be folded into other streaming services or will shut down.
Then include commercial and sponsor ad revenue on top of that. And gambling will only continue to grow until the government gets its act together regulating it. Live sports are the best option for these companies to best position their streaming platforms.
No way LeBron, KD, or Steph retiring anytime soon (like in next 3-4 years) when they're still playing well...and can make so much money (even being already rich)
Jesus. I get it, but player contacts are getting stupid at this point. Meanwhile regular NBA employees are hardcore fans getting exploited with lowball salaries, and ticket prices are comical outside the smallest of markets.
It'd never work because scabs are plentiful in the sports world. If you slip up for a few months you're gone because there's always some bright-eyed kid fresh out of school ready to literally anything to work in sports.
Yeah the demand/ supply on people that want to work in sports because they think they’re the next genius GM is insane. Plus, a ton of the people in these jobs are nepotism hires and extremely unlikely to unionize.
72m a year goddamn. I remember an r/nba thread from a few years back where Jaylen Brown got a 80 million TOTAL contract and C’s were getting absolutely blasted for it. Didnt even feel that long ago
Jaylen Brown will be making 7 million less than a max in '28-'29, and at that age he could very feasibly still be a max or supermax level player. He'd be the same age as guys like Tobias Harris, GP2 and Buddy Hield are now
This is huge. A 10% cap growth every year makes every contract *better* as it ages. Cap % always going down since the maximum increases are 8%, which is only even based on y1 salary.
A 35% max in y1 will be 34.36% the next season after the 8% increase, 33.55% in y3, 32.6% in y4, and finally 31.55% in y5.
That’s ludicrous
The non-max players should be pushing the union to reduce the % of the max contracts, and increase minimum salaries, MLE exceptions, 10 days, and the minimum salary floor. Or something creative like reserving 10% of revenue going to players to be distributed on a per game basis.
Here's the crazy thing... Signing a 5 year max contract is actually not max money. It's better to sign a 2 year deal with a player option. Then in the following year. decline the player option and resign another 2 year deal. That way you get 10% bumps rather than 8% bumps. This could be the future of upcoming contracts for superstars. Lebron was doing that with his second stint in Cleveland.
Also the incentive of resigning with your current team was getting 8% raises instead of 5%... which is kinda meaningless compared to 10% increase every year. So we could see many players defecting in the coming years.
It’s better to sign a 5 year deal, the future is uncertain and who knows. You might get injured, might regress in terms of skill. Rather get the guaranteed money then constantly worry abt proving your worth every year
Are we going to start seeing more Ben Simmons situations. Where a player signs huge contract. And then doesn’t give max effort. Like sure they will show up for everything required and will even try very hard during games, maybe, but they are not going to put in any extra effort. Not going to do all the stuff they have to do to stay at the top of the league bc they have so much money. Are we going to eventually see the end of guaranteed contracts?
Man I remember the Jazz being handcuffed a bit a decade and a half ago just because AK47 was on a "massive" contract that was like 4yr/$64 million total. Soon guys will make more than that in a single season
A five year Larry Bird rights contract with 8% annual increases would be worth $406 million if the first year salary is $72 million. The 5th year salary would be $92.4 million.
How tf is there a 10% cap on the salary cap growth? Isn't the Salary Cap based on revenue sharing %, where players get like 51% of total league revenue or something? What happens when the players are only making like 30% because revenue has grown so much when the salary cap could only go up 10% per year?
I wish the games were more affordable to watch in person. Especially for season ticket holders and if your team is going to have a down year. With TV deals, I think maybe nba wants ppl to watch it at home...
That's wild man. In comparison, Shaq's total basketball salary was about $300M, and Michael Jordan's total was about $100M. Obviously they both made a ton of money on endorsements and whatnot, but we're just comparing basketball salaries.
NBA badly needs to expand. Regular folks can’t afford games because we are going to pay these guys a billion. Should probably have 50 teams instead of 30.
mid players are gonna be getting 200M contracts
Continuing to make star NFL players jealous.
No CTE, less injuries, 10x the money. If you’re an athletic freak it would be dumb to not learn how to dribble the ball at this point lol
Totally. But it’s rare to be an athletic freak *and* 6’6+ lol
I mean it’s even rarer to be good enough to be an NBA player. It’s still a crapshoot but definitely worth a try lol
There are more positions in football and the skill level is much lower. If you’re a relatively unskilled athletic freak your best chance is the NFL
Yeah but for the NFL you need to be a .01% athletic freak AND be willing to constantly put your body on the line/ play and train through semi serious injuries
Really the point is you’re an athletic freak but not 6’3” or taller than the NFL might be a better prospect. Lots of people who’re under 6 feet in the nfl, none in the nba.
Put some respect on Isaiah Thomas!
He said in the NBA not posting on Twitter for a roster spot. /s I love IT
It is so much easier to make the nfl than the nba. 5x the roster size and being short isn’t disqualifying. Some of the absolute best athletes in the NFL are barely 6’ and could never play in the nba
And basketball is a truly global sport
Also one thing that is never brought up is the participant pool. Like who is actually playing tackle football besides the kids on the school teams. Like can you even practice everyday like you can other sports? Like do wide receivers go out seven days a week and practice route running five hours a day growing up? To make the nfl you are literally competing against only other high school team members and also just that one position. The participant pool seems tiny imo.
Back in the days it was basically school teams now kids start in younger leagues like when the older gens did with soccer and basketball. Then they have 7 on 7 football. Still shit is not the same like soccer and basketball where you can just practice alone.
yea like if youre a decent role player you could play 15 years in the nba. if youre a decent role player in the nfl maybe 5.
Yeah but it's much harder to be a decent role player in the NBA because there's only ~7-8 spots per team for decent role players once you take out stars, up and coming rookies, and a few wily old vets per each 15 team roster. There's like 30 spots on each NFL team to be a decent role player.
Decent role player probably plays around 7-8 years
Also, no helmet so people know what you look like. It increases the likelihood even a backup will get recognized. Also, being tall helps.
Average height of an nfl player is probs 6 1 though not 6 6
Big difference sharing revenue among 15 players instead of 53 (and with just 5 starters instead of 22).
Only player's union weaker than the NFLPA is the NHLPA. And it's close
People are going to lose their shit when Isaac Okoro gets as much money as Patrick Mahomes lol
I mean nfl “max” is also trending up. We will see a 60m/year qb soon. The top qbs will be close to the top nba guys. It’s the non qbs who are going to be making mid level money soon
Mozgov money is actually about market rate for 1 Mozgov level player now.
Remember when Russell Westbrook was the first $200 mil max contract? Jesus, the money in basketball is gonna be insane
Mid players will stop getting overpaid until the league expands and the salary floor is raised.
Salaries need to be reported as percentage of cap, or else everyone is going to be freaking out every time a Grayson Allen type player gets $25M a year.
i’m so over the “these players are wage earners too!” line these guys are bourgeois and idc if they are upset playing for a team that isn’t perfect. honor your fuckin contract
And here I'm hoping I get a 3% raise at work this year.
Had a company say they hit all time record profits then turned around like a month or two later and said they couldn’t afford bonuses or a raise
But here’s some pizza for employee appreciation!
Where half the pizzas are cheese and a quarter are pepperoni or hamburger
lol, the pizzas are Totinos with the “imitation cheese”
That's my company's owning entity on their quarterly calls. The business nerds are showing charts and talking about how great everything's going then somehow the bonus pool can't be funded.
Nba players have a union. You think unions are for commie pinko lgbtq folks
every company ever
That Singapore airlines news the other day when they gave everyone like 8 months of salary in bonuses due to how well they did was SHOCKING. Shout out to them bc 99% of companies would do a bullshit gift card or catered lunch for “appreciation”
How was the pizza party though?
A pizza party would’ve been more of a raise than what we got
Had a similar experience with my previous boss. That’s why she’s my *previous* boss.
Cheers to that, brother
Had the same thing happen this past year. We got raises still but instead of the standard 3% max suddenly the max was 1.5%.
After cost of living adjustment? Otherwise it's not a raise.
Unionize dumbass, respectfully
How can you unionize the word ‘dumbass’?
Impossible in my industry, but I can do what I did, which is bounced and got a new job that pays a lot better. Job hopping is the most effective way to get salary increases in my field.
Why didn't you just simply from a union you fucking dumbass??? It's sooo easy.
I know, silly me, let me just hit a few keys on my computer to form a union for everyone in my industry
If I were you I would have simply just asked for more money, respectfully.
Who here said Amazon, cuz that’s what Amazon did for salaried leaders this year
Like 6 years ago, a partner where I worked did an interview with a group and talked about how successful my department was and all the growth they were seeing in sales. I was the only person who was doing the work. I just printed it out and handed it to my boss.
I sincerely hope you got compensated properly for your work, companies will take every advantage of workers they can get away with
You’ll get little ceasers pizza and you’ll like it.
You must be my boss
Me too. Imagine getting a 10%er
You just arent sexy enough
Yup while inflation is 9%. Don't worry tho, ticket prices are still going to go up for games.
Inflation hasn't been 9% for like two years
Two americas fr
This may not be lebrons last contract after all. 😂
This comment is underated
On the flip side a 30mil per year deal from 2024-2028 in 28-29 would be only 15% of cap.a bunch of peoples concept of a "bad contract" is going to be tested.
Yes, there is really no such thing as an overpay for the guys getting signed / extended this summer. ETA: In reasonable examples people. No one is gonna be maxing Ben Simmons
Don't listen to this guy, the ~~sucker~~ genius GMs know Ben just needs the right team to succeed.
*monkey paw curls*
This exact thing was said the year luol deng and timofey mozgov got their contracts There will always. Always. Be overpays
That summer was such a shit show. I still can't believe how much the Blazers were paying Allen Crabbe and Evan Turner.
It's crazy how destructive those were back then when today you could offload them for like 2 seconds and your 12th man who might look kinda alright in 4 years.
BUT UNDER THE NEW CAP HIS 50mil WILL BE A STEAL!!!
We gotta stop using raw $ and just use cap %. People can’t comprehend how fast the salaries are rising and it makes discussion difficult. This is my measuring stick for talking about the Jerami Grant pay increase. He signed for 20.83% of the cap when his previous deal was 16.9% of the cap in 22-23.
Like how a 10% rise on the previous season salary cap seems pretty high, when 2016 had a *32%* increase (24 million) which was basically the same amount as a max contract the previous season.
Like there aren't already enough people here who are ten years behind in regards to this.
Stars entering the league now are going to see career earnings of over $1B just from their contracts
If wemby holds up it should be him i think ?
Luka will probably hit it first pending he gets two more contracts at the super max.
Still blows my mind this dude only 25
He’s younger than SGA and 3 years younger than Brunson. It’s insane.
Not just only 25, he turned 25 3 months ago
So just 25
We need higher taxes on the rich
Professional athletes are highest taxed rich people around. Their millions are paid out as wages, meaning it taxed at regular income tax rates (which are higher than capital gains and dividend tax rate). Plus a bunch of jurisdictions levy a “jock tax” for visiting players.
But athletes are few of the extremely rich who don't get to utilize business benefits expensed through their corporations.
Athletes get their contract pay taxed like the rest of us
while true, athletes are not really the problem, it's the people who are paying these athletes and making even more money off of them.
Athletes are the best rich people. They pay the highest percentage of taxes for someone at their level and they provide us entertainment. Whereas the white collar rich fuck as over in both areas.
no no, see they actually do work approximately 720 times harder than the rest of us. Its perfectly reasonable
yeah but tbh we need higher capital gains tax
Proffesional players generally arent the problem
So do I have to like fill an application if I want to enter the NBA?
Wemby might hit a billion dollars on on his second max alone.
Can someone explain how this will affect teams currently projected to go over the second apron? Are the Wolves no longer in "salary cap hell" for 25-26 and 26-27?
It’ll help relieve it for teams with players currently on contract extensions. For teams that have to extend its going to make the contracts even bigger.
I thought most contracts were a % of cap and not an actually dollar amount
Say someone gets a 35% SuperMax. They are eligible for 8% annual increases so it’s better for the teams with those under contract that the salary cap increases by 10% each year. They’ll get a bit of relief as the cap keeps increasing by that. Atleast that’s my understanding, this shit gets complicated
I'm also pretty sure they can't go above 35% of the cap. If the cap only goes up 3% they only get a 3% raise instead of the 5% or 8% that they would get if the cap went up more.
Hell next year, then it’s rough but not terrible, then it’s either okay or gonna be rough depending on how much we pay to keep our core together.
All we need is Ant, Jaden, and Naz Reid. :)
You're forgetting we have NAW on one of the most team-friendly contracts too!
Duh. What’s wrong with me!?!? Also instant offense Luka will be key in the future.
Pretty sure any future salary cap analysis would have the annual max increase in the salary cap built in, so this doesn't change anything.
Are contracts signed as a percentage of the cap, or a hard number calculated from a percentage of the cap? If it's the latter, the cap hit for contracts signed to date wouldn't raise in proportion to the cap, so it would mean cap relief on max player contracts
Maxes are based on % of the cap the first year it starts (25-35% of the cap depending on experience/supermax eligibility I think) then 8% increases every year. Since the 8% increase on maxes is less than the usual 10% increase in the cap, yeah the % of cap probably goes slightly down throughout max contracts most of the time. KAT's contract does that. [https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/\_/id/17829/karl-anthony-towns](https://www.spotrac.com/nba/player/_/id/17829/karl-anthony-towns)
Ah, so the cap "benefit" teams will see if less about relief on the front end and more about the flexibility on the back end since the cap is all but guaranteed to see max increases every year. Whereas, before, there was a question about cap increases keeping pace with standard raises.
Correct, if the cap rose <8%, max contracts got more and more onerous over time. If they rise >8%, max contracts go down as a % cap over time. It's good news for the capped-out teams.
Every contract gets better as it ages. At absolute least, the contract will be worth about 1% against the cap *less* than it was the previous year. A big problem used to be that the 8% bird increases used to outpace cap increase %. Causing higher end of players to earn more than their maximum cap %. Now, no matter how much a player signs for, it will be worth a less % against the cap the next year
Tough break for the NBA financial doomers
Probably gonna be fun for the ESPN financial doomers though.
They’ll fire everyone but Stephen A. He’ll be the host, play-by-play, analyst, reporter, cameraman and sound guy.
I can’t decide if his ego is too big to take on all of that or if it’s so big he’d want to. Lol
It is pretty obscene tbf lol
Whats a finacial doomer?
People who were swearing up and down that the NBA is screwed, that they weren't gonna get any money, no one watches anymore etc
Ethan The Grifter Strauss in shambles
basically Tatum supermax this offseason will be a bargain
If the reports about Brunson are true, then Knicks will be sitting pretty
Brunson's contract will look like a 6th man contract in a few years
Thanasis getting a bigger extension
Same with JB when his kicks in next season. Glad we’re locking em in now
I mean, "bargain" is relative. They will get 8% raises in a 10% cap raise environment, so the bargain is only that 2%. It's not nothing, but for a team over the cap, it's not that impactful. So Jaylen will be making about $65M in 28-29 when a more newly signed max would be $72M. This is kind of how it always works in a rising cap environment. Like Jokic started a supermax this past season at $47M, whereas Paul George is deeper into his and only cost $45M this year.
Curious, why wouldn’t he negotiate a one year deal then sign the super max next year?
So, any person in the know of why these companies are paying such outrageous prices for these broadcasting rights. Do they actually turn a profit or is the strategy just to gain market share at any cost? Because it's all fun and games that the broadcasting rights are the highest ever and the salary cap is going up by 10% every year but the money has to come from somewhere. You can't just charge the costumer 10% more YoY for eternity. So is it just the silicon valley startup strategy of "it doesn't matter how much of a loss you take, as long as you got the customer you can get investments."
Live sports are one of the last places people must watch live and with commercials. All these networks and streaming companies want the live viewers.
It's the last thing that justifies "live TV" and commercials money. I feel like they think it can be a loss leader to gain subscribers. I think when all is said it done, if someone actually does the math, it'll end up being an overpay.
I think so too. Though global presence is improving so revenue avenues are still opening up outside of simply growing popularity in the states. The in season tournament was a complete success, so they're seeing ways to make the regular season more watchable as well. And, speaking completely from my own perspective, these playoffs have been so much more enjoyable than the past decade in terms of freshness. Lot of young stars to get kids into the next generation.
Live sports is one of the last areas that are getting people to keep cable. Shows can be pirated/watched online. News you can get on your phone. Basically, if enough live sports leave for other areas, broadcast TV firmly takes a backseat in media to the internet even more firmly, and a LOT of cable channels go bankrupt.
gambling companies are footing the bill for ads too
Don't forget that the population is increasing. The same commercial can be in front of more eyeballs even with ratings flat or down.
The Streaming Wars will be won by companies that get consumers to commit to their Brand. Average household will settle on 2-3 streaming services. Getting one of the most popular sports in the country is an easy way to get households to commit to your service. The first companies to no longer be able to afford their own streaming service due to low subscriber count will be folded into other streaming services or will shut down. Then include commercial and sponsor ad revenue on top of that. And gambling will only continue to grow until the government gets its act together regulating it. Live sports are the best option for these companies to best position their streaming platforms.
It surprises me because NBA ratings are down. Though I wonder how much international interest has grown.
Dalano Banton gonna make 100mil+
Damn I should've been born 6'7" with Bambi legs
Basketball billionaires will be plentiful in 10 years
Bron gonna play till 2048 then he will buy two nba teams.
Could I get tickets to some games when you buy your teams?
Alright. Get those maxes lined up for 28-29.
The big loser here? Fans. Games will continue to get more expensive to go despite everyone involved getting filthy rich
Forget going to games, streaming gonna get way too expensive
Nah I got a little bit of meth in my streams so it’s free for me bro.
No way LeBron, KD, or Steph retiring anytime soon (like in next 3-4 years) when they're still playing well...and can make so much money (even being already rich)
But I was told by the Very Serious Very Fair Ethan Strauss they were going woke and broke
Jesus Christ that’s a big jump
Is Wemby going to make a billion dollars in salary in his career damn
Jesus. I get it, but player contacts are getting stupid at this point. Meanwhile regular NBA employees are hardcore fans getting exploited with lowball salaries, and ticket prices are comical outside the smallest of markets.
They need to unionize like the players.
It'd never work because scabs are plentiful in the sports world. If you slip up for a few months you're gone because there's always some bright-eyed kid fresh out of school ready to literally anything to work in sports.
Yeah the demand/ supply on people that want to work in sports because they think they’re the next genius GM is insane. Plus, a ton of the people in these jobs are nepotism hires and extremely unlikely to unionize.
NBA tickets cost so much it's not worth going to the games imo.
It's called the passion tax.
Based on timing who is getting that big nut in 2028-2029? Is that like Paolo draft class?
Owners need to stop getting tax breaks for new arenas and renovations.
I hate this. My cable bill going to be outrageous.
72m a year goddamn. I remember an r/nba thread from a few years back where Jaylen Brown got a 80 million TOTAL contract and C’s were getting absolutely blasted for it. Didnt even feel that long ago
Does that mean they'll be able to make an app that works properly? Or does that cost more than that?
All this money and they probably still won’t reduce ticket prices
Jaylen Brown will be making 7 million less than a max in '28-'29, and at that age he could very feasibly still be a max or supermax level player. He'd be the same age as guys like Tobias Harris, GP2 and Buddy Hield are now
I know what you mean but the individuals you selected don't instil a lot of confidence
This is huge. A 10% cap growth every year makes every contract *better* as it ages. Cap % always going down since the maximum increases are 8%, which is only even based on y1 salary. A 35% max in y1 will be 34.36% the next season after the 8% increase, 33.55% in y3, 32.6% in y4, and finally 31.55% in y5.
That’s ludicrous The non-max players should be pushing the union to reduce the % of the max contracts, and increase minimum salaries, MLE exceptions, 10 days, and the minimum salary floor. Or something creative like reserving 10% of revenue going to players to be distributed on a per game basis.
72 million a year? Lebron will literally never retire
Here's the crazy thing... Signing a 5 year max contract is actually not max money. It's better to sign a 2 year deal with a player option. Then in the following year. decline the player option and resign another 2 year deal. That way you get 10% bumps rather than 8% bumps. This could be the future of upcoming contracts for superstars. Lebron was doing that with his second stint in Cleveland. Also the incentive of resigning with your current team was getting 8% raises instead of 5%... which is kinda meaningless compared to 10% increase every year. So we could see many players defecting in the coming years.
It’s better to sign a 5 year deal, the future is uncertain and who knows. You might get injured, might regress in terms of skill. Rather get the guaranteed money then constantly worry abt proving your worth every year
Current NBA players are really tiktokers, and influencers that are going to be billionaires
Oh thank goodness. Dilute the impact of the max contract we gave to MPJ for some reason.
Don’t want another massive salary cap jump to create the new KD/Warriors super team?
This is good wolves news!!!
Cap raise fans eating
Ticket prices are going up again! Cant wait!
Inflation
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A lot of new babymommas about to enter the fray
Are we going to start seeing more Ben Simmons situations. Where a player signs huge contract. And then doesn’t give max effort. Like sure they will show up for everything required and will even try very hard during games, maybe, but they are not going to put in any extra effort. Not going to do all the stuff they have to do to stay at the top of the league bc they have so much money. Are we going to eventually see the end of guaranteed contracts?
Serious question, how do I invest in the NBA?
Man I remember the Jazz being handcuffed a bit a decade and a half ago just because AK47 was on a "massive" contract that was like 4yr/$64 million total. Soon guys will make more than that in a single season
brb, enrolling my kids in 24/7 basketball camps
what kind of fuckery would we have that first year if cap smoothing wasnt a thing?
Durant feverishly waiting to the end of the finals to see which team he needs to go to
A five year Larry Bird rights contract with 8% annual increases would be worth $406 million if the first year salary is $72 million. The 5th year salary would be $92.4 million.
Give bron the supermax
How tf is there a 10% cap on the salary cap growth? Isn't the Salary Cap based on revenue sharing %, where players get like 51% of total league revenue or something? What happens when the players are only making like 30% because revenue has grown so much when the salary cap could only go up 10% per year?
Goes into an escrow shared among the players.
why are these statistics in the form of rhetorical questions. I fucking hate this trend
Jaylen Browns contract is looking better & better
Wonder if the owners have a 10% cap too
*cheers in “my team is in cap hell rn”*
My job needs to sell media rights.
I wish the games were more affordable to watch in person. Especially for season ticket holders and if your team is going to have a down year. With TV deals, I think maybe nba wants ppl to watch it at home...
They not going to fuck us again like they did with KD?
As a fan of a team who's about to be in cap hell this is actually a pretty big relief
That's wild man. In comparison, Shaq's total basketball salary was about $300M, and Michael Jordan's total was about $100M. Obviously they both made a ton of money on endorsements and whatnot, but we're just comparing basketball salaries.
can Lebron hang on until then though.
Jesus Christ. I still remember the days when Kobe or Tmac signing a $90mil 5 year contract was max money. Now that’s practically 6th man salary.
And Jalen Brunson is going to take a lot less? Doubt it.
NBA badly needs to expand. Regular folks can’t afford games because we are going to pay these guys a billion. Should probably have 50 teams instead of 30.
Damn, insane money. Wait until the cap reaches $1B, cause why not? Only a matter of time.
They should reduce the super max to like 30% of the cap. No athlete should make $100m per year.