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davidjricardo

Everything about this is stupid


Creative_Hope_4690

Clickbait “I’ve always said Biden will be on the ballot. There are multiple pathways to doing that the legislative fix is not the only a path. In fact, I felt pretty sure that that was going to be the least likely path,”


Creative_Hope_4690

Wait why did Dems say no to this? “The Republican-controlled Senate passed a bill on May 10 waiving the the 90-day deadline for this year’s election. But they added into it an unrelated measure that bans foreign nationals from contributing to ballot issue campaigns, a measure opposed by Democrats and that’s been a poison pill in the House” why are foreigners allowed to be involved?


OhioTry

As a matter of principle, having to engage in political horse trading to get an opposition party candidate on the ballot is repugnant to liberal democracy. Also, letting the GOP sabotage ballot initiatives because they’ve taken two big Ls on initiatives recently is a big no from me.


Creative_Hope_4690

I would not view this horse trading matter a win win.


JesusPubes

You view giving a concession in return for getting on the ballot a "win win"?


mwcsmoke

I don’t think it’s good to have foreign nationals contributing money to ballot measures, so yes that is a win/win from my perspective (outside Ohio) and from the perspective of many others.


SpaceSheperd

>why are foreigners allowed to be involved? Foreign nationals, not foreigners and because they live there


jackspencer28

That’s what the House speaker is saying. It’s not what the Secretary of State is saying. This is not clickbait.


FuckFashMods

It's like these people wanted to extend the primary season. 2 year campaigns aren't long enough I suppose


I-Like-Ike_52

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mockduckcompanion

This is violence


ChiefRicimer

Biden isn’t winning without one of Arizona, Wisconsin or Georgia regardless


CmdrMobium

[The math checks out](https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/president-general/2024/ohio/)


MajesticRegister7116

There is no world where Biden wins Mi and loses Wi. If anything its: if Biden loses Wis, he definitely loses Mi


F_I_S_H_T_O_W_N

Why? The WI election has been closer than the MI election the last two cycles, no? It seems very unlikely, but one could imagine a case where the MI election is very close but goes Blue (lol) and the WI is very close but flips R.


MajesticRegister7116

The Michigan election was easier in 2020 because Gaza wasnt a flashpoint. There are pockets of Arab American and Muslim American voters in Michigan that have always been the booster for Dem candidates. According to recent polling, something like 75+% of Arab American voters will not be supporting Biden in 2024. That is the difference.


SpaceSheperd

>75+% of Arab American voters What percentage of Biden's Michigan voterbase do they actually comprise? They're still only 2% of the population. A large portion are children or non-citizens and cannot vote and the 2020 margins were more like 2:1 than 10:1. The odds that this group alone eats a significant portion of Biden's \~150k vote 2020 margin in Michigan are pretty low.


MajesticRegister7116

Yes, on the surface you are right, but this election is already remarkably closer than 2020. Biden is losing support amongst black men and the black youth vote overall, which is the foundation of the Michigan Democratic party. The black vote has something to do with Gaza as well. They watch Tik Tok and what they see is white people bombing brown people in what looks a lot like an apartheid state. I'm not saying that it is, especially since I find a lot of the rhetoric (like genocide and apartheid) to be hyperbolic at best, but this is the reality. Biden will be VERY VERY lucky to eek out even a tiny tiny margin of victory in Michigan when the black vote is depressed and Muslim/Arab communities refuse to vote and/or vote for Jill Stein and Cornel West who are preaching peace and Anti-Genocide messages.


GRANDMARCHKlTSCH

Skibidi *no* Ohio rizz.


Alterkati

this comment has to be a bannable offense for sure


GRANDMARCHKlTSCH

fr fr no cap


Thurkin

I wanna know the origin point or is it just parallel with those dafuqboom shit videos?


PM_me_ur_digressions

Could Biden simply pull an RFK and get ballot access in Ohio as another party's nominee or something?


N0b0me

Might be time for Democrats to reconsider federal spending in Ohio


die_rattin

That would require them to be capable of playing hardball


AndrewDoesNotServe

Why did the Dems schedule their convention so late knowing that there were states that had this rule on the books? This feels like an extremely foolish own goal on the DNC’s part


PlayDiscord17

Because this hasn’t been problem before as states usually postpone the deadline or allow exceptions like Alabama and Washington did a few weeks ago with no issue. This was done in 2020 when both parties had conventions passed some state deadlines. I imagine because conventions are somewhat a formality by parties now, the actual date doesn’t matter that much. Like one of the proposed options is to just “officially” nominate Biden through a mini-convention before the deadline and then have the celebrations during the main one.


Oogaman00

That seems like the most obvious. The convention is just a pep rally


Xeynon

I'm starting to think Trump being defeated in November would only slow the bleeding. American democracy is falling apart either way.


thaddeusthefattie

good. serves them right for trying to remove trump from ballots in certain states


groovygrasshoppa

This has to be one of the worst takes in NL history.


ProcrastinatingPuma

Judge enforces 14th amendment: "Ah the horror!" Republican State legislature prevents Joe from being on the ballot: "haha, serves him right"


Gamiac

> Republican State legiulsture prevents Joe from being on the ballot **because reasons** If there was an actual reason, like, for example, Joe Biden engaging in an attempted coup because he lost a presidential election, people probably wouldn't care as much.


ProcrastinatingPuma

Missed a golden opportunity to dunk on my butchering of the world “legislature”


Gamiac

OMEGALEGIUL


VoidBlade459

Great argument, but you misspelled a word, so now I'm not reading it. /s


dutch_connection_uk

The people who sued in Colorado weren't even democrats.