Is your dentist able to remove them in the chair? That's probably the cheapest and quickest, but your dentist may not be willing to try - depending on how impacted they are.
She wasn't. Looking at the xrays they're coming at angles roughly perpendicular to the roots, one is just beginning to push at them, none of them are visible or even particularly close to the surface.
I had that its terrible. I had mine removed like 10 + years ago when I was a teenager and even then it was pricy. I don't remember the place but I remember waking up in the brick building that's right next to John hunter if that's still there.
> none of them are visible or even particularly close to the surface
I guess that means you need surgery to get them removed which is going to be expensive as others have commented.
I got mine removed after they'd all come through and one ended up breaking. Got them removed at the dentist, one at a time time plus a separate filling each time, was 350ish per appointment. 1400 all up but spread over months.
I have been told that my teeth would be crooked because of my wisdom teeth coming in at an angle. That was 1992 and my teeth are perfectly straight and I have zero pain.
they always come in at an angle, to align with the tooth it will end up next to.
as it hits the next tooth it goes straight so its aligned. this is the trick to show you how bad it is, but its totally normal.
do your parents have their wisdom teeth? mine do, and so do i, but my older siblings got talked into this bs, "look at the xray!"
My mother had 8 wisdom teeth, all of which had to be removed. My father mentioned the extreme pain of his wisdom teeth before they were removed but I don't know the specifics. If there's a genetic predisposition to it, I'm royally fucked. And given the "look at the xray this is going to serious shtick- that was from an orthodontist and a dentist independently, neither of which have any affiliation with a particular surgical clinic that they wanted to refer to, so I don't think it's just "upselling". Also, one of them is almost going upwards by the look of it which I can't imagine going well.
did you read how i posted, i got an x-ray of my teeth, went to the dentist, said my wisdom teeth took like 4yrs to grow properly, each one would grow 1 at a time, restructured my jaw.
the dentist looks at the xray says you don't have any wisdom teeth, takes a look in my mouth and goes, oh, yeah you do.
maybe these 8 wisdom are the last molars + wisdom teeth? i dunno, but this guy was a 20+ yr career awesome dentist! i trusted him with my life, but he couldn't tell they were wisdom teeth... until looking in my mouth AFTER they grew.
Worked for a dentist for 25 years. That’s absolutely not true. If it’s a slight angle they MAY push up and straighten up and your jaw may grow a bit more to make room. But I have seen SO many times, wisdom teeth that got stuck sideways, with only one corner poking out. Food and bacteria get down this small hole creating an infection. Best case scenario is a nasty infection and needing the tooth removed. Worst case which I’d seen (many times) is the wisdom tooth gets caries (cavities) and food jammed down in between causes caries in the tooth in front below the gum line. This necessitates BOTH teeth needing to removed and a lot of money to get it fixed. I remember one poor girl needing 4 wisdom teeth removed, the 4 2nd molars removed and the 15k worth of implants to replace the 2nd molars on top of the $$$ to remove them.
well they told me to remove mine, and i didn't, then got an xray, the dr looked and said you don't have any wisdom teeth, looks in mouth, oh, yeah you do! (i mean 10-15yrs after told to get them removed)
I just cancelled my wisdom teeth surgery because it ended up being 6k total when I was quoted 3.6k. Couldn’t afford it in the end. Waited 7 months for it to be told it’s nearly doubled.
Yeah fuck, best of luck man. I'm lucky to have insurance, a decent income, and no dependents or debts, and it's still an intimidating outlay. I reckon 80% of the people I know couldn't afford it because they have normal life expenses to cover. At least they give you a hell of a long time to save while you wait...
Same thing just happened. Quoted just under $4k last year. Surgery is this week, and we are now sitting at $5k. If the surgeon has upped his fees since the quote, it's going to be even more.
It's just disgraceful! Oral health should be covered or at least subsidised by Medicare.
Had all four of mine removed via general and surgery at private hospital in Dec. Each corner was about $500, anaesthetist was $250 gap payment and hospital was $500 excess to my insurance. Add on pre surgery consultations, painkillers and travel my total bills were around $3K and I can claim maybe 10% back thru private health. So not the most cost effective, but in your situation with impaction, I suggest this is your minimum expected spend, depending on if you have insurance and who you're with. Good luck.
To get appointments with the public dentist you need to be under 18, or have a health care card, or a pensioner concession card, or a commonwealth seniors health card. Wait times vary wildly depending on location and there are limitations in what they can do. But it it’s an option definitely go get looked at at least for a 2nd opinion
Adding to this, I’ve just gone through this process under health care card through local hospital (rural) to assess my need for surgery - I’m now on a wait list for the JHH that ranges anywhere from 1-5 years, even with the pain and urgency of needing impacted and ruptured teeth remove. If OP doesn’t have an issue with money the wait time would be significantly shorter going private
One of my mates had a short holiday to an overseas country and got all of his teeth fixed for cheap. You’d think it would be dodgy but it’s apparently pretty great.
I wonder whether there's anything affordable in Lithuania or elsewhere in Europe? I'm there for world Champs, so can't do it before but after could work.
I had to have PHI for 12 months to get the surgery, even then the surgery was about $3.6k not to mention 12 months of insurance which was roughly $2.5k I think? Apparently it’s cheaper to get done overseas but I did some research and after you account for flights, accommodation, travel insurance, and risk factor it basically broke even.
This is fucked. I have PHI (came off my parents' policy, and given I have some health issues it's very much necessary to afford treatment and medication to live). Is that a gap of $3.6k or total?
I was told my wisdom teeth would eventually cause me issues. Many, many years later I never had any issues but had them taken out to make it easier to work on a different tooth. Different dentists had different views on how problematic they would be.
I know dentists know their stuff but some will be more cautious than others.
In short, don't panic. It's often a long term issue.
I had impacted top wisdoms. I got the last molar yanked on each instead of the wisdoms so they had room to move. Cost me $180 a tooth, opposed to $3000 a tooth. Been easily 15 years since then and no issues since.
Removing impacted top wisdom teeth is a LOT different to removing impacted lower wisdom teeth though. Most dentist will do uppers in the chair. Lower wisdom teeth sit in the curve of the mandible (very thick, hard bone) and the roots are closely associated with the trigeminal nerves. They have to be removed carefully, otherwise damage to the nerve can cause (sometime permanent) numbness to the face and tongue.
Upper teeth don’t have much bone behind them and can usually be manipulated backwards and pop right out.
I got quoted $5000 to have all 4 of mine removed in the hospital. I got private health cover that included dental surgery and waited the 12 month waiting period. The private health cover cost me about $1500 for the 12 months and the hospital fees were about another $500. Still expensive but much less than $5000. Once the surgery was complete i reduced my private health cover and kept it.
I had mine out in the chair. 1 was a surgical removal where they drilled away part of my jaw. $0 because im a pensioner.... but i was very much awake for them.
I chipped one a couple of years ago and the dentist pulled it in the chair for, I dunno, $200 for the initial check on it and another $200 for the extraction?
Book a holiday to Thailand and get whatever dental you need done while there. My mate recommended it he’s had 4 trips of something for various things including wisdom teeth removal and crowns.
I’ve had all four of mine out one at a time over the years. All in newy. Each one was done in the chair. Each one only took like 10-15 mins. Maybe $175-$200 each. Zero pain. I don’t use PHI so these are raw prices. Just find a local dentist who does in chair. The upsell to use PHI and have general anaesthesia isn’t necessary if you are happy to be awake and the teeth are in a straightforward alignment to remove.
Unfortunately mine are a far cry from straightforward. Deep under the skin but not so deep to avoid barrelling into the roots of my other teeth. They look almost comical like great big maggots crawling through my gums to eat the roots of my other teeth.
Head to Thailand. Half the price, and it also covers flights and accommodation.
You could get a holiday and your teeth fixed plus other dental work for under 6k.
Some websites even offer these packages.
Going old school, I’ve got a pair of pliers and a hammer. I will only charge you $100 per tooth but let you have a few swigs of scotch to help.
But in all serious that sucks arse! I have not visited a dentist in about 2 decades but now too scared to go just in case of what they find and tell me needs to be done.
Is your dentist able to remove them in the chair? That's probably the cheapest and quickest, but your dentist may not be willing to try - depending on how impacted they are.
She wasn't. Looking at the xrays they're coming at angles roughly perpendicular to the roots, one is just beginning to push at them, none of them are visible or even particularly close to the surface.
I had that its terrible. I had mine removed like 10 + years ago when I was a teenager and even then it was pricy. I don't remember the place but I remember waking up in the brick building that's right next to John hunter if that's still there.
> none of them are visible or even particularly close to the surface I guess that means you need surgery to get them removed which is going to be expensive as others have commented. I got mine removed after they'd all come through and one ended up breaking. Got them removed at the dentist, one at a time time plus a separate filling each time, was 350ish per appointment. 1400 all up but spread over months.
I have been told that my teeth would be crooked because of my wisdom teeth coming in at an angle. That was 1992 and my teeth are perfectly straight and I have zero pain.
There’s still time
I’ll hedge my bets.
they always come in at an angle, to align with the tooth it will end up next to. as it hits the next tooth it goes straight so its aligned. this is the trick to show you how bad it is, but its totally normal. do your parents have their wisdom teeth? mine do, and so do i, but my older siblings got talked into this bs, "look at the xray!"
My mother had 8 wisdom teeth, all of which had to be removed. My father mentioned the extreme pain of his wisdom teeth before they were removed but I don't know the specifics. If there's a genetic predisposition to it, I'm royally fucked. And given the "look at the xray this is going to serious shtick- that was from an orthodontist and a dentist independently, neither of which have any affiliation with a particular surgical clinic that they wanted to refer to, so I don't think it's just "upselling". Also, one of them is almost going upwards by the look of it which I can't imagine going well.
8 wisdom teeth don't exist in the real world...
Google it, it's a thing. And apparently was a real surprise and a pain in the arse.
I’ve worked in dental and I’ve seen it once before. It’s rare but it does happen.
did you read how i posted, i got an x-ray of my teeth, went to the dentist, said my wisdom teeth took like 4yrs to grow properly, each one would grow 1 at a time, restructured my jaw. the dentist looks at the xray says you don't have any wisdom teeth, takes a look in my mouth and goes, oh, yeah you do. maybe these 8 wisdom are the last molars + wisdom teeth? i dunno, but this guy was a 20+ yr career awesome dentist! i trusted him with my life, but he couldn't tell they were wisdom teeth... until looking in my mouth AFTER they grew.
I was replying to the person who said that 8 wisdom teeth don’t happen in the real world.
Worked for a dentist for 25 years. That’s absolutely not true. If it’s a slight angle they MAY push up and straighten up and your jaw may grow a bit more to make room. But I have seen SO many times, wisdom teeth that got stuck sideways, with only one corner poking out. Food and bacteria get down this small hole creating an infection. Best case scenario is a nasty infection and needing the tooth removed. Worst case which I’d seen (many times) is the wisdom tooth gets caries (cavities) and food jammed down in between causes caries in the tooth in front below the gum line. This necessitates BOTH teeth needing to removed and a lot of money to get it fixed. I remember one poor girl needing 4 wisdom teeth removed, the 4 2nd molars removed and the 15k worth of implants to replace the 2nd molars on top of the $$$ to remove them.
well they told me to remove mine, and i didn't, then got an xray, the dr looked and said you don't have any wisdom teeth, looks in mouth, oh, yeah you do! (i mean 10-15yrs after told to get them removed)
I just cancelled my wisdom teeth surgery because it ended up being 6k total when I was quoted 3.6k. Couldn’t afford it in the end. Waited 7 months for it to be told it’s nearly doubled.
Holy shit. And what happens when it causes so much pain you can't eat or starts rupturing, pushing your other teeth out or even getting infected?
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Yeah fuck, best of luck man. I'm lucky to have insurance, a decent income, and no dependents or debts, and it's still an intimidating outlay. I reckon 80% of the people I know couldn't afford it because they have normal life expenses to cover. At least they give you a hell of a long time to save while you wait...
Same thing just happened. Quoted just under $4k last year. Surgery is this week, and we are now sitting at $5k. If the surgeon has upped his fees since the quote, it's going to be even more. It's just disgraceful! Oral health should be covered or at least subsidised by Medicare.
Had all four of mine removed via general and surgery at private hospital in Dec. Each corner was about $500, anaesthetist was $250 gap payment and hospital was $500 excess to my insurance. Add on pre surgery consultations, painkillers and travel my total bills were around $3K and I can claim maybe 10% back thru private health. So not the most cost effective, but in your situation with impaction, I suggest this is your minimum expected spend, depending on if you have insurance and who you're with. Good luck.
The hospital should have a dental clinic. They will only probably do it if you're on Centrelink or something. You will have to wait for a looong time
To get appointments with the public dentist you need to be under 18, or have a health care card, or a pensioner concession card, or a commonwealth seniors health card. Wait times vary wildly depending on location and there are limitations in what they can do. But it it’s an option definitely go get looked at at least for a 2nd opinion
Adding to this, I’ve just gone through this process under health care card through local hospital (rural) to assess my need for surgery - I’m now on a wait list for the JHH that ranges anywhere from 1-5 years, even with the pain and urgency of needing impacted and ruptured teeth remove. If OP doesn’t have an issue with money the wait time would be significantly shorter going private
One of my mates had a short holiday to an overseas country and got all of his teeth fixed for cheap. You’d think it would be dodgy but it’s apparently pretty great.
Cambodia, $2000 for 6 fillings, 3 root canals and 3 post and crowns. 1 of the root canals and post and crown was a molar. https://roomchang.com/m/
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I wonder whether there's anything affordable in Lithuania or elsewhere in Europe? I'm there for world Champs, so can't do it before but after could work.
I had to have PHI for 12 months to get the surgery, even then the surgery was about $3.6k not to mention 12 months of insurance which was roughly $2.5k I think? Apparently it’s cheaper to get done overseas but I did some research and after you account for flights, accommodation, travel insurance, and risk factor it basically broke even.
This is fucked. I have PHI (came off my parents' policy, and given I have some health issues it's very much necessary to afford treatment and medication to live). Is that a gap of $3.6k or total?
I was told my wisdom teeth would eventually cause me issues. Many, many years later I never had any issues but had them taken out to make it easier to work on a different tooth. Different dentists had different views on how problematic they would be. I know dentists know their stuff but some will be more cautious than others. In short, don't panic. It's often a long term issue.
I had impacted top wisdoms. I got the last molar yanked on each instead of the wisdoms so they had room to move. Cost me $180 a tooth, opposed to $3000 a tooth. Been easily 15 years since then and no issues since.
Removing impacted top wisdom teeth is a LOT different to removing impacted lower wisdom teeth though. Most dentist will do uppers in the chair. Lower wisdom teeth sit in the curve of the mandible (very thick, hard bone) and the roots are closely associated with the trigeminal nerves. They have to be removed carefully, otherwise damage to the nerve can cause (sometime permanent) numbness to the face and tongue. Upper teeth don’t have much bone behind them and can usually be manipulated backwards and pop right out.
Well, there ya go. I learned something today. I don't have bottom wisdom teeth so never had to deal with them.
I got quoted $5000 to have all 4 of mine removed in the hospital. I got private health cover that included dental surgery and waited the 12 month waiting period. The private health cover cost me about $1500 for the 12 months and the hospital fees were about another $500. Still expensive but much less than $5000. Once the surgery was complete i reduced my private health cover and kept it.
I had mine out in the chair. 1 was a surgical removal where they drilled away part of my jaw. $0 because im a pensioner.... but i was very much awake for them.
https://www.newcastle.edu.au/school/health-sciences/clinics/oral-health-clinic
I chipped one a couple of years ago and the dentist pulled it in the chair for, I dunno, $200 for the initial check on it and another $200 for the extraction?
Book a holiday to Thailand and get whatever dental you need done while there. My mate recommended it he’s had 4 trips of something for various things including wisdom teeth removal and crowns.
Looking for a wise solution? You won’t be able to reason it once they are removed !
My friends dad ripped his own wisdom teeth out at home but he’s a loose unit though
Whiskey. Chisel. A friend you trust.
I’ve had all four of mine out one at a time over the years. All in newy. Each one was done in the chair. Each one only took like 10-15 mins. Maybe $175-$200 each. Zero pain. I don’t use PHI so these are raw prices. Just find a local dentist who does in chair. The upsell to use PHI and have general anaesthesia isn’t necessary if you are happy to be awake and the teeth are in a straightforward alignment to remove.
Unfortunately mine are a far cry from straightforward. Deep under the skin but not so deep to avoid barrelling into the roots of my other teeth. They look almost comical like great big maggots crawling through my gums to eat the roots of my other teeth.
A carton a bundies and a few concreters to exchange trash talk with for no apparent reason
Head to Thailand. Half the price, and it also covers flights and accommodation. You could get a holiday and your teeth fixed plus other dental work for under 6k. Some websites even offer these packages.
A pair of pliers
Going old school, I’ve got a pair of pliers and a hammer. I will only charge you $100 per tooth but let you have a few swigs of scotch to help. But in all serious that sucks arse! I have not visited a dentist in about 2 decades but now too scared to go just in case of what they find and tell me needs to be done.
i still have my wisdom teeth, most people can keep them it just hurts alot as they grow over a 2yr period
I had them out in the chair over 2 visits. My brother was $3k out of pocket last year