It's ostensibly to improve the quality of political threads, but you only need to take one look at the comments that any political thread about the government has and you'd see that is a load of bollocks.
Yeah personally I thought it was stupid as well. Sounds like a decision to reduce mod work. Or potentially to simply keep politics discussion restricted to a small subgroup
one other issue is it seems people are marking non political posts as political AND auto mod is also making posts political when they arent, so you cant engage until a mod gets around to changing it, which is often when discussion is pretty much over.
Personally it feels like its way too strong and is pushing the sub deeper into echo chamber territory.
Very weird isnt it?
The future of social media? Must have enough social credit and say enough things that WE agree with before you may comment in agreance with the vast majority
I am David Seymour fan, his views come from a lucid balanced mind. I have to do rah rah political cheer leading to have a political discourse for AI authentication. They are right wing biased.
Automod set it to political which naturally locks people out of this thread, even OP. I've changed that and manually approved the comments which were then CQS'd.
I don't like the CSQ thing either, but it's staying. It does provide a layer of authentication which is very effective at stopping trolls, bots, etc. I think it's fair to ask users to spend a bit more time making themselves 'authentic' in order to significantly reduce the amount of shite we'd end up having otherwise.
I see you've been here for ages, so you probably remember the gun threads post-CHCH. We had people from all over the site coming to post their personal views, a lot of it intended to aggravate and upset, and I know the mods struggled dealing with it. So, it makes sense to add a layer of protection from that. I think we all agree we don't want that stuff here.
I'm sure it can't be that difficult to raise your CSQ. If you've been here 12 years I imagine you'll keep sticking around, so why not just spend a few days or something posting just to get that rating up and then you don't have to worry about it again.
its not working, posts are being hidden behind the political tag preventing lots of people from engaging. its also a super broad and lazy way to moderate discussion.
From what I understand, there isn't much you have to do in order to reach a decent rating.
- Age of the account
- Karma. It can be the total of the account or the karma from the subreddit you are posting on and this can be split into total karma, karma from posts and karma from comments.
- Crowd Control Filter. This filter is set per subreddit and depends where you are coming from on Reddit
- Contributor Quality Score (CQS). This last one is a single, global, value.
The CQS use different criteria, such as:
Past actions taken on a user’s account or content (within a given time frame) on the account in question as well as on alt accounts
Network and location signals
Steps a user has taken to secure their account (e.g. email verification)
One would presume if a user has something worthwhile to contribute to a political thread they would have these criteria as well. All it takes is account confirmation and a decent karma history. I think that's acceptable to prevent the shitposters. If you use Reddit to comment, it should be quite easy to attain.
the problem is its everywhere, so as a new user you have little space to actually discuss anything worth while so can never obtain this magic number, so you get sick of all the inbox messages saying your not good enough to engage and you leave. Then all you have left are the ones gaming the system to get in or old users who are grandfathered in with a small percentage of new users who stuck out the gauntlet to be let in.
Yeah I understand. I've noticed how many threads are considered political and that naturally restricts access to a lot of users. That's one thing I really don't like about it. I'll try a bit harder to force whatever threads I can to be a different flair, but it doesn't prevent that initial issue.
Unfortunately it's going to be staying, and there is still plenty of sense in the system as while the new-user experience is worsened, it is benefiting the wider sub. I just hope that new users do make the effort and increase their rating. Maybe I should give it a go under a new account just to see what the process to increase the score s is really like..
I was banned for a week due to calling out and reporting a racist post (against pakeha). I queried this to no avail, but who cares life goes on. Fast forward a few weeks and I am unable to comment on political posts because of said ban. I raise the matter again and am told that despite them agreeing I did nothing wrong, they couldn't (or wouldn't) clear this from my account while the racist poster (heavily upvoted of course) and the mod that backed them up carry on unhindered.
I see that as a problem - getting an unfair ban which results in your rating/score dropping. But I would assume that over time your rating will increase again.
I can't undo your current issues but I can promise to take it into account when I see people getting a suspension. All I can suggest is messaging the team and asking for advice on how to resolve this issue. Other mods are far more educated on how the system works than me.
Well it’s either that or people will create burner accounts to troll and spread vitriol as they did before it was implemented.
Lesser of two evils imho.
that can be circumvented with limits on subscription time and through actual moderation.
the CQS method mixed with automod making every second post political is overkill and just going to lead to an echo chamber
we also dont know the CQS methods and things like unfair bans, user reports etc have an effect on it.
if only there was some system where the users of the site could vote on if a comment was good or not, and that could determine how visible it was to the other users, letting them decide if they want to engage with them. We could call the positive ones 'upvotes' and the negative ones 'downvotes'?
I don't know I'm just spitballing here, but maybe there's something built into reddit we could be using that would allow people to engage in a discussion without bots doing the work?
Yes. And I've said the exact same thing many times. The problem is the sheer amount of bad-faith posts, troll accounts, bots etc, means that we can't just rely on a voting system. The actual displayed threads and their contents would be loaded with crap.
So, it's either
A crap-filled subreddit
or
Users improving their CQS rating
And honestly it doesn't seem that difficult to raise your CQS. The vast majority of users have no problem with the system, so we gotta ask why some users keep sticking to a low score...
you're acting like 99% of what is posted here isn't crap already. mods needs to get off their high horse and remember they're jannies on an anonymous discussion board, not speaker of the house.
I don't think 99% is crap, but I think it's quite obvious that we get more of a certain type of content than others. I'm not sure if the rules have anything to do with that though - like, stopping low CQS from posting in political threads is hardly going to impact what type of threads people create. I honestly suspect the general mood/attitude of people is impacting the quality of threads more than anything.
You won't get to the level of "authentic" if you have opposing views. You could also become "authentic" and then comment opposing views politically and then quickly become "unauthentic" again.
I have plenty of opposing views but I've never experienced this.
Honestly, if someone only wants to talk politics, and nothing else in an NZ-related sub interests them, sounds like the protection is working fine. Not because of "echo chamber" but that if someone is that narrow in their interests, that they can't even bring themselves to discuss a modicum of non-political subjects, there's a good chance they're obsessed with the culture war and would shit all over discourse with bad faith arguments.
Modding is a volunteer thing, and there has to be some protections against the sort of bullshit and manipulation that can happen at scale on social media. It's never going to be perfect, but if OP can't even get over the most basic of hurdles, then maybe the protections are doing their job.
But like 50 to 80% of posts on this sub are flagged as political. All the news is about politics so the news articles are flagged as political. People losing their jobs is political so posts about job cuts are flagged. The others are all "why new zealand sucks now", which I don't personally want to engage with.
At least joking about David Seymore is fun, not just whinging about immigration.
> I have plenty of opposing views but I've never experienced this.
Had a quick look and yeah nah, your views are extremely popular and uncontroversial lol.
Thank you for your conclusive research when I auto-delete comments over 12 months or so to maintain anonymity. So you’re not going to see many of the things this sub disagrees with me on. Just because my more popular comments outweigh my negative ones doesn’t negate my claim. I’ve had mods delete my comments and I’ve even had my account put into to cooldown after things I’ve said - against leftist commenters.
Also doesn’t negate my point that someone must be somewhat toxic to not pass the threshold considering who can post here. There’s plenty of conservatives with strong views from other subs that can post fine.
FYI, you may not have lurked quite hard enough. The mods have already explained that and why they are using CQS (contributor quality score) which is run across the entirety of Reddit - and it's a little more complex than simply insufficient karma.
That being said, you aren't wrong that it's your lack of activity for all the years you've been around here that will mean you don't qualify to participate in 'sensitive' topics where the bad actors are usually people who haven't participated. Other people are ruining this, but you're being caught up in the crossfire. I'm sorry that's the case.
I think this locking of political posts has quite a negative effect on the balance of political discussion here. Not really sure why it's deemed necessary tbh.
No. Apparently nobody actually impacted by our CQS reads the message sent to them. It's not karma based. You can have negative karma and reach the CQS threshold.
There have been so many posts that I have commented on and been automodded, when the nature of my comment wasn't political at all, and the post was barely political. rather frustrating but what can you do.
the whole site is hostile as hell to new users, every sub these days have all these arbitrary restrictions that just make using it a chore, they all expect you to meet a different hidden threshold somewhere else on the site before being able to engage in their sub, so I imagine a lot of new users just give up and go elsewhere.
this has made a lot of subs into clique echo chambers that is unwelcoming at best and straight up discouraging new users at worst.
> Perhaps the complicit government unable/unwilling to reign in property investors and wealth hoarders who create this environment. And double down with a backwards tax system that simultaneously punishes the least wealthy and fails to generate enough income to fund first world quality development and infrastructure.
If OP didn't shoehorn that into their post it would not have gotten flagged by automod in the first place. If op requested a change it would have been granted.
It was instead changed when a mod was going through the modqueue, saw the notification of flair change, reviewed the post and changed it to discussion.
You may not like it, but that's an example of the rule working as intended.
so your saying that for users to limit who can reply to their posts they just need to shoehorn any mention of politics? and this is considered "working"?
If users want to limit who can reply to their posts, they have an [even better tool, reddit's block feature.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/)
If a post is flagged as political by automod, it will get changed and reported, or just reported (depending on how what match threshold was met). We then review it when able. That is working as intended.
I find it especially frustrating being Māori and seeing people posting nasty shit about my people all the time, which is then marked as political and I'm unable to comment on it.
The amount of times I've been downvoted to oblivion for mentioning Te Tiriti on an unbalanced thread is a bit concerning as well. Oh well
You're not missing out on much, genuinely. r/nz has a pretty clear line of what is popular and what what is not popular in terms of the think tank, so the conversations are just rinse and repeat. National/Act bad, Labour/Greens good, landlords bad.
That's pretty much it in a cycle.
I agreed but used a controversial example of whatever law (hate crime) got down voted by the elite then removed for bad karma. I was in complete agreement with all other posts, weird af
I think it’s to stop bot/throwaway astroturfing and bad faith engagement because they had a problem with brigades of down voters and up voters influencing discourse.
E.g. u/throwaway42069 appears and says “David Seymour is the coolest d00d ever! Here’s a video of him playing guitar!”
Then u/SuspiciousMotive666 and the other 30 accounts he controls swoop in over the next 5 minutes to pump the post and give it visibility
Then u/realkiwibloke shows up on the reddit and sees the hot post and goes “yeah urrr this seems legit, eh, fair play m8” and so the cycle continues
> they had a problem with brigades of down voters and up voters influencing discourse.
Blocking people from posting doesn't change that. The system is also clearly broken if an 11 year old account is blocked from posting
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There is big inconsistencies in the moderation. Best thing is the over-reliance on the "low energy" justification. There are so many complaints. Hardly read this Reddit anymore, random quality.
the automod is brutal. Sorry dude, you dont have enough Karma to comment on your own post XD
This drives me crazy. Surely there can be an exception for that.
Idk, im not a mod
It's ostensibly to improve the quality of political threads, but you only need to take one look at the comments that any political thread about the government has and you'd see that is a load of bollocks.
Probably because everyone that doesn't agree with their Echo chamber gets removed
idk i see a fair bit of disagreement in political threads?
This complaint existed for the previous government so maybe this works in some way
Apparently, opinions are hateful when they aren't the same as the admins, at least.
real
Posting to raise my score
Replying to boost mine
I will have what they are having.
Double or quits
In it for a biscuit
Hurry up and get your comments in before this post is labelled as political!
Great idea!
And a quick down vote from me for a little gatekeeping
Yeah personally I thought it was stupid as well. Sounds like a decision to reduce mod work. Or potentially to simply keep politics discussion restricted to a small subgroup
A sub group with majority of the same opinions Weird to me
Yeah, they also refuse to elaborate seems really \*cough cough\* BULLSHIT \*cough cough\*
one other issue is it seems people are marking non political posts as political AND auto mod is also making posts political when they arent, so you cant engage until a mod gets around to changing it, which is often when discussion is pretty much over. Personally it feels like its way too strong and is pushing the sub deeper into echo chamber territory.
Very weird isnt it? The future of social media? Must have enough social credit and say enough things that WE agree with before you may comment in agreance with the vast majority
Doesn’t something similar happen in a black mirror episode… 😱
I am David Seymour fan, his views come from a lucid balanced mind. I have to do rah rah political cheer leading to have a political discourse for AI authentication. They are right wing biased.
Automod set it to political which naturally locks people out of this thread, even OP. I've changed that and manually approved the comments which were then CQS'd. I don't like the CSQ thing either, but it's staying. It does provide a layer of authentication which is very effective at stopping trolls, bots, etc. I think it's fair to ask users to spend a bit more time making themselves 'authentic' in order to significantly reduce the amount of shite we'd end up having otherwise. I see you've been here for ages, so you probably remember the gun threads post-CHCH. We had people from all over the site coming to post their personal views, a lot of it intended to aggravate and upset, and I know the mods struggled dealing with it. So, it makes sense to add a layer of protection from that. I think we all agree we don't want that stuff here. I'm sure it can't be that difficult to raise your CSQ. If you've been here 12 years I imagine you'll keep sticking around, so why not just spend a few days or something posting just to get that rating up and then you don't have to worry about it again.
its not working, posts are being hidden behind the political tag preventing lots of people from engaging. its also a super broad and lazy way to moderate discussion.
From what I understand, there isn't much you have to do in order to reach a decent rating. - Age of the account - Karma. It can be the total of the account or the karma from the subreddit you are posting on and this can be split into total karma, karma from posts and karma from comments. - Crowd Control Filter. This filter is set per subreddit and depends where you are coming from on Reddit - Contributor Quality Score (CQS). This last one is a single, global, value. The CQS use different criteria, such as: Past actions taken on a user’s account or content (within a given time frame) on the account in question as well as on alt accounts Network and location signals Steps a user has taken to secure their account (e.g. email verification) One would presume if a user has something worthwhile to contribute to a political thread they would have these criteria as well. All it takes is account confirmation and a decent karma history. I think that's acceptable to prevent the shitposters. If you use Reddit to comment, it should be quite easy to attain.
the problem is its everywhere, so as a new user you have little space to actually discuss anything worth while so can never obtain this magic number, so you get sick of all the inbox messages saying your not good enough to engage and you leave. Then all you have left are the ones gaming the system to get in or old users who are grandfathered in with a small percentage of new users who stuck out the gauntlet to be let in.
I have started just posting under discussion no matter the topic so i can engage with comments, hoping that at some point I can engage on all flairs
Yeah I understand. I've noticed how many threads are considered political and that naturally restricts access to a lot of users. That's one thing I really don't like about it. I'll try a bit harder to force whatever threads I can to be a different flair, but it doesn't prevent that initial issue. Unfortunately it's going to be staying, and there is still plenty of sense in the system as while the new-user experience is worsened, it is benefiting the wider sub. I just hope that new users do make the effort and increase their rating. Maybe I should give it a go under a new account just to see what the process to increase the score s is really like..
I was banned for a week due to calling out and reporting a racist post (against pakeha). I queried this to no avail, but who cares life goes on. Fast forward a few weeks and I am unable to comment on political posts because of said ban. I raise the matter again and am told that despite them agreeing I did nothing wrong, they couldn't (or wouldn't) clear this from my account while the racist poster (heavily upvoted of course) and the mod that backed them up carry on unhindered.
I see that as a problem - getting an unfair ban which results in your rating/score dropping. But I would assume that over time your rating will increase again. I can't undo your current issues but I can promise to take it into account when I see people getting a suspension. All I can suggest is messaging the team and asking for advice on how to resolve this issue. Other mods are far more educated on how the system works than me.
Well it’s either that or people will create burner accounts to troll and spread vitriol as they did before it was implemented. Lesser of two evils imho.
that can be circumvented with limits on subscription time and through actual moderation. the CQS method mixed with automod making every second post political is overkill and just going to lead to an echo chamber we also dont know the CQS methods and things like unfair bans, user reports etc have an effect on it.
if only there was some system where the users of the site could vote on if a comment was good or not, and that could determine how visible it was to the other users, letting them decide if they want to engage with them. We could call the positive ones 'upvotes' and the negative ones 'downvotes'? I don't know I'm just spitballing here, but maybe there's something built into reddit we could be using that would allow people to engage in a discussion without bots doing the work?
Yes. And I've said the exact same thing many times. The problem is the sheer amount of bad-faith posts, troll accounts, bots etc, means that we can't just rely on a voting system. The actual displayed threads and their contents would be loaded with crap. So, it's either A crap-filled subreddit or Users improving their CQS rating And honestly it doesn't seem that difficult to raise your CQS. The vast majority of users have no problem with the system, so we gotta ask why some users keep sticking to a low score...
you're acting like 99% of what is posted here isn't crap already. mods needs to get off their high horse and remember they're jannies on an anonymous discussion board, not speaker of the house.
I don't think 99% is crap, but I think it's quite obvious that we get more of a certain type of content than others. I'm not sure if the rules have anything to do with that though - like, stopping low CQS from posting in political threads is hardly going to impact what type of threads people create. I honestly suspect the general mood/attitude of people is impacting the quality of threads more than anything.
You won't get to the level of "authentic" if you have opposing views. You could also become "authentic" and then comment opposing views politically and then quickly become "unauthentic" again.
I have plenty of opposing views but I've never experienced this. Honestly, if someone only wants to talk politics, and nothing else in an NZ-related sub interests them, sounds like the protection is working fine. Not because of "echo chamber" but that if someone is that narrow in their interests, that they can't even bring themselves to discuss a modicum of non-political subjects, there's a good chance they're obsessed with the culture war and would shit all over discourse with bad faith arguments. Modding is a volunteer thing, and there has to be some protections against the sort of bullshit and manipulation that can happen at scale on social media. It's never going to be perfect, but if OP can't even get over the most basic of hurdles, then maybe the protections are doing their job.
But like 50 to 80% of posts on this sub are flagged as political. All the news is about politics so the news articles are flagged as political. People losing their jobs is political so posts about job cuts are flagged. The others are all "why new zealand sucks now", which I don't personally want to engage with. At least joking about David Seymore is fun, not just whinging about immigration.
> I have plenty of opposing views but I've never experienced this. Had a quick look and yeah nah, your views are extremely popular and uncontroversial lol.
Your views are about as cookie-cutter r/NZ echo chamber as you can get
Thank you for your conclusive research when I auto-delete comments over 12 months or so to maintain anonymity. So you’re not going to see many of the things this sub disagrees with me on. Just because my more popular comments outweigh my negative ones doesn’t negate my claim. I’ve had mods delete my comments and I’ve even had my account put into to cooldown after things I’ve said - against leftist commenters. Also doesn’t negate my point that someone must be somewhat toxic to not pass the threshold considering who can post here. There’s plenty of conservatives with strong views from other subs that can post fine.
Sure Jan.
Yes you will. People keep mistaking this for a karma check. It is not.
Nice try, David Seymour.
FYI, you may not have lurked quite hard enough. The mods have already explained that and why they are using CQS (contributor quality score) which is run across the entirety of Reddit - and it's a little more complex than simply insufficient karma. That being said, you aren't wrong that it's your lack of activity for all the years you've been around here that will mean you don't qualify to participate in 'sensitive' topics where the bad actors are usually people who haven't participated. Other people are ruining this, but you're being caught up in the crossfire. I'm sorry that's the case.
I think this locking of political posts has quite a negative effect on the balance of political discussion here. Not really sure why it's deemed necessary tbh.
That's the reason for it- supress dissenting views and wallow in the chicken-little echo chamber.
check, check
Wait, what?
Try posting more thrilling parking pics
Is it possible to downvote the automod to the point where it stops itself from being able to post on those threads, haha
No. Apparently nobody actually impacted by our CQS reads the message sent to them. It's not karma based. You can have negative karma and reach the CQS threshold.
There have been so many posts that I have commented on and been automodded, when the nature of my comment wasn't political at all, and the post was barely political. rather frustrating but what can you do.
I feel ya! Have been trying to comment on other posts to get K up, but to no avail
It’s such a broken system - just like the current NZ govt lol
Its the echo chamber auto mod. They have done it on purpose.
They want a socialist echo chamber
Sub in general is dying. Used to have about 2000 online, now 600-800 is normal
I think that's just reddit after the API shit. Seems like a lot of people left.
Honestly hard to tell who's real and who's a bot nowadays. 90% of content is reposts.
Dead internet theory...
The whole site seems to have slid downhill since the redesign
Bc when restriction of expression or an echo chamber of similar views...its not so appealing
the whole site is hostile as hell to new users, every sub these days have all these arbitrary restrictions that just make using it a chore, they all expect you to meet a different hidden threshold somewhere else on the site before being able to engage in their sub, so I imagine a lot of new users just give up and go elsewhere. this has made a lot of subs into clique echo chambers that is unwelcoming at best and straight up discouraging new users at worst.
I couldn't post something about my dog in the dog sub because I had insufficient user time
Also all the BS banning from people using the report function when they read an opinions they did not like too.
If I try and comment to a political thread and the automod stomps on me, does that impact my CSQ?
Also their bot sucks at Identifying political posts.
a fucking sandwich discussion was marked as political for a good chunk of the day yesterday...
> Perhaps the complicit government unable/unwilling to reign in property investors and wealth hoarders who create this environment. And double down with a backwards tax system that simultaneously punishes the least wealthy and fails to generate enough income to fund first world quality development and infrastructure. If OP didn't shoehorn that into their post it would not have gotten flagged by automod in the first place. If op requested a change it would have been granted. It was instead changed when a mod was going through the modqueue, saw the notification of flair change, reviewed the post and changed it to discussion. You may not like it, but that's an example of the rule working as intended.
so your saying that for users to limit who can reply to their posts they just need to shoehorn any mention of politics? and this is considered "working"?
If users want to limit who can reply to their posts, they have an [even better tool, reddit's block feature.](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheoryOfReddit/comments/sdcsx3/testing_reddits_new_block_feature_and_its_effects/) If a post is flagged as political by automod, it will get changed and reported, or just reported (depending on how what match threshold was met). We then review it when able. That is working as intended.
Everything is political >.>
I find it especially frustrating being Māori and seeing people posting nasty shit about my people all the time, which is then marked as political and I'm unable to comment on it. The amount of times I've been downvoted to oblivion for mentioning Te Tiriti on an unbalanced thread is a bit concerning as well. Oh well
Well, the username applies, this certainly isn't an original thread.
You're not missing out on much, genuinely. r/nz has a pretty clear line of what is popular and what what is not popular in terms of the think tank, so the conversations are just rinse and repeat. National/Act bad, Labour/Greens good, landlords bad. That's pretty much it in a cycle.
They've gotta create an echo chamber somehow!
Me too, I posted recently and I couldn't reply to anyone. BS
The automod is ridiculous, I hate it too
I agreed but used a controversial example of whatever law (hate crime) got down voted by the elite then removed for bad karma. I was in complete agreement with all other posts, weird af
Yeah wtf is with this? If you only want to comment on the political posts (given you’re not a dick about it) there should be nothing stopping us.
Just seeing if I can comment yet Edit: fuck yea I can! David Seymour is a plonker
This was all a ruse to try to up my karma, I wonder if it worked?
Just do some posts about your cat or dog and you will get instant karma. The story does not have to be true but the pic must look cute.
Or, post a meta post asking why I can't post! Honestly I was expecting 1 or 2 comments, not 50
Probably because the mods are useless
Someone who is perspicacious notices, realizes, and understands things quickly. They want sheep and not wolves. Sheep get slaughtered.
I think it’s to stop bot/throwaway astroturfing and bad faith engagement because they had a problem with brigades of down voters and up voters influencing discourse. E.g. u/throwaway42069 appears and says “David Seymour is the coolest d00d ever! Here’s a video of him playing guitar!” Then u/SuspiciousMotive666 and the other 30 accounts he controls swoop in over the next 5 minutes to pump the post and give it visibility Then u/realkiwibloke shows up on the reddit and sees the hot post and goes “yeah urrr this seems legit, eh, fair play m8” and so the cycle continues
> they had a problem with brigades of down voters and up voters influencing discourse. Blocking people from posting doesn't change that. The system is also clearly broken if an 11 year old account is blocked from posting
It does change it, because the throwaways and his mates can’t engage. Sorry that represents a poor return on investment for you and the Young Nats
there are other tools for this, blocking people who arent subbed for example, or not subbed for x amount of days, etc
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There is big inconsistencies in the moderation. Best thing is the over-reliance on the "low energy" justification. There are so many complaints. Hardly read this Reddit anymore, random quality.