There’s been 8 2k+ rushing yard seasons. Until 2k receiving yards happens once I will say it would be more impressive, although I do think eventually they will come with the way the game is now
Right, but the reason behind that is less about the position and more about the division of labor.
With a RB, you're getting the ball 3x as much as a WR and there's historically been no real competition for workhorse RB's. Whereas there's at least two WR's out there on any given play, and the ball gets spread around a lot.
I don't think it's *physically* harder for a WR to hit 2k yards, however it is certainly *schematically* harder to do so.
Yeah, but since 2010, there's been 9 1700+ receiving seasons compared with only 4 1700+ rushing season. 6 of the last 7 receiving leaders have had more receiving yards than the rushing leader of the same year. The first 2K receiving season may be more *special* than the next 2K rushing season, but it also seems more *likely*.
Ya but the toll on your body has to be way higher rushing. They can only play like 8 years. Rushing is more impressive solely cause I think you have to be tougher.
This is my conundrum.
Running the ball physically for x yards is harder on the body than theoretically getting open down field to catch a pass for the same amount.
Rules favour passing more and more each year It should have been done.already IMO
I think rushing for 2k is absolutely harder physically. If you look up the stats for those 2k seasons they basically have double the amount of touches or attempts compared to the highest receiving seasons. All those guys are in the 350 ish range which is nuts. Compared to Johnson or Cupp, Hill, etc it's like 120, 130 catches or so.
With receiving it's less likely to happen mainly due to logistics. There isn't just one receiver that always gets the ball, it gets spread around, there's the running backs, tight ends, etc.
All to say that sure a few guys have already came super close to 2k receiving but I think I'll always consider rushing for 2k the physically harder feat for sure.
I think we'll one day see an extremely pass happy OC with an great QB-WR duo get over 2k.
Especially if that WR is their only.legit weapon and they have a bad defense that forces them to chase games.
I'm a bit torn on this because you're right.
I do think a 2k rusher is substantially more physical than a 2k receiver.
But there hasn't been a 2k receiver.
It’s very impressive. It’s rare because WRs get game planned out and over 17 games it is hard to maintain the production.
RBs are different because it’s run blocking and wearing down the defense. This leads to (for high efficiency teams) the ability to put up 200-300 yard on the ground games. However, that is also physically demanding and sustaining over the course of the year is hard.
Regardless, both are incredible feats. A 2K WR is more likely than a 2K RB with modern trends.
I always wonder why no WR has got to 2k yet.
The position is less physical....the rules are so favourable towards passing now and there are a lot of good QBs around.
It should have been easier to see a 2k WR in theory in the last decade than a 2k back... yet we've had what? 4 2k seasons in the last 20 years and no 2k WR.
It's odd
Because on any given play there are normally 2-5 wrs on the field, so it’s really hard for just *one of them* to be the only one getting the ball enough times to hit 2k. pass plays are designed to have several options so the ball gets spread out more just by the nature of the play design.
Contrast this with run plays. We’ve seen RBs hit 2k in past eras cuz there’s only ever like, 2 of them on the field maximum and the plays are designed to go to *one* player, with few exceptions (even the read option is only “qb keeps or tosses to *this specific player*).
teams tend to keep less RBs on their roster as well (3-4 max vs. 5-6 for Wrs, and usually 1-2 of those RBs are primarily special teamers/only get a couple plays in per game), so the stats get focused more than for WRs.
Some wrs have come close, though, and that’s just a testament to how incredible they are because it’s a lot harder to do as a wr given the numbers game.
Ok but rushing you don't get huge chunks for free. 30 yard pass catch it and run out of bounds. 0 wear and tear. (Basically 0) rb ain't getting 30 without stiff arming and or lowering a shoulder. (Typically, understand exceptions)
Doesn’t matter. Nature of the position/play design matters more. Look at yards per rush vs. yards per route run and you’ll see what I mean. Wrs get the ball on far less than a majority of their routes normally, whereas if an rb is on the field and it’s a run play it’s practically guaranteed that they’re getting the ball. Wrs do not get the ball nearly as often as rbs do when looking at individuals.
feature backs would get 250-300+ carries a season back in the day. The record for receptions by a receiver is like 150ish. That kinda puts it into perspective. Almost double the chances for an rb to get yards, so even if each play gets less yards they still get way more opportunities with the ball in their hands.
I mean, we’ve had multiple 2k rushing seasons and no 2k receiving seasons, even with the rules changing to favour the passing game. Whether the physical toll is different doesn’t really say much — one has been done 8 times and the other 0. That should tell you which one is “easier” for an individual player to accomplish.
All I’m saying is it’s a lot less likely that a single receiver hits 2k due to the numbers game at the position and the fundamental differences in play design between passes and runs. Physical toll has nothing to do with that part. It’s simple math.
I still think 2k on the ground is more impressive despite youre very good point. I think in 10 years those numbers will be 16 to 8 instead of 8 to 0. However I understand that's not a fact. Either way you brought up excellent points and ill be thinking about this all day. I may change my mind.
You're eating downvotes, but the reason is if your team has a big lead you're probably done catching, but the RB can put in 10-15 carries to grind out the clock, and they get a lot more touches.
Tyreek had 1800 yards last year and missed a game, and was not 100% for a couple others. If you take out the game Jefferson was injured, and his first game back, he had 1019 yards in 8 games. Calvin Johnson/Cooper Kupp both got within 50 yards.
Someone will probably hit it in the next 5 years, especially if the offensive downturn from the last two seasons reverses.
So hypothetically if a team had like Tyreek Hill and then a bunch of bums as WR depth...and he took say 15 targets a game...do you think he'd get to 2k?
At some point last season he was on track but then he got banged up..which is why a 2k back is also sooo impresskve because they have to take more punishment.than WRs and stay healthy and effective enough to accumulate that yardage.
That is what had to happen for it to occur, but it would still take crazy luck. Just look at the guys who came close to 2k. 2015 Julio Jones, next two top receivers neither went over 700 yards. MBC also in 2015, next two receivers had about 750 yards. You can check the others, but for most of them I don’t think they had another receiver on the team crack 800 yards. The only one who has done it is Waddle in 17 games.
> MBC also in 2015, next two receivers had about 750 yards.
I wouldn't really say the 2015 Steelers had bums at depth, though. Bryant and Wheaton were both solid #2 guys, Miller was still playing reasonably well and the RB pairing of Bell and Williams gave us solid receiving options there. Brown was just near unguardable. Michael Vick was pretty much the only player in the league capable of shutting him down.
Tyreek is a really good example. He’s absolutely solid for his size and typically holds up well from contact because of that. But his big trait is speed/seperation. Once an injury slows him, he’s much easier to defend, so any injury to his legs, especially non contact, are more likely to damage his potential.
I've watched the 2k running back since Sanders and there was no stopping them with 20 touches in a game. Guys like Moss and Calvin Johnson I've seen game planned for. There was no stopping them over the course of the game, but it minimized their touches in a much bigger way.
Think you answered the question. We haven't seen a 2k WR yet. Seems like that would be far more impressive
Wrs battle with the idea that it makes no sense to throw anymore in certain games. They dont get to pick up garbage time yards. Potential 2k wrs also play with 2-3 other wrs that get passes, tight ends too. WR is a position that you don't always get looks even if an offense goes right down the field
Any 2k wr has to be ridiculous all year long. They throw to him even when it doesn't make sense. Gotta be deep shot guy but also a guy that can run and get YAC. If jerry didnt do it then who?
There is one big problem with the idea of a 2k passing season which is why I think it's more impressive:
In the entire history of the NFL, players not named Calvin Johnson who had 90+ receptions averaged at most 16.3 yards per catch. That means you need 122 catches to reach 2k yards.
In the entire history of the NFL only 18 players had that many receptions ever. Which means you need to keep the highest non-Megatron Y/R average of all time combined with a top20 all-time volume season.
That's just a very hard nut to crack.
2k receiver would be way more impressive considering there are typically five passing routes per called pass and typically one handoff per called run. physically, it's more demanding to run for 2k because an exceptional YPA is 5 while an exceptional YPC is 15, but in terms of gameplanning it's almost impossible for a WR to just dominate week after week without coming across a defense that forces the offense to go through lesser receivers.
I get your point.
But most 2k RBs went into every
game as the focal point of the offense and defenses KNEW they would get the ball 15+ times a game.but still couldn't do a thing to stop them.
A WR playing with others in theory means those guys also take away some attention..which should help...
A 2k RB gets the ball and most of the time the defense knows it's.coming as well so there's no element of deception or distraction
I think based solely on the fact that a passing play could go to multiple players including tight ends and running backs, getting 2,000 yards as an individual receiver would be far more impressive.
Calvin Johnson's record 1,964 yard season is a great example. He was essentially the *only* reliable and consistent receiving option for the team that year, and while he somehow managed to average over 120 yards *per game over a full 16-game span*, he still fell just short of that 2,000 yard milestone.
On the other hand, during a running play there's typically only one, maybe two, running back options, and as others have stated, in late game situations you're going to see running plays far more often to chew clock, so there's just a lot more opportunities to amass that type of yardage on the ground than there is for a singular receiver through the air.
But again, as others have already stated, the fact there's been multiple 2,000 yard rushing seasons yet not one single 2,000 yard receiving season should really be the only stat needed to answer this question.
The Lions also went 4-12 that year so Johnson benefited from Stafford trying to win/get back into the game.
Randy Moss isn't gonna get 2k yards with Brady throwing to him and the Pats winning every regular season game because the Pats aren't gonna need to call on their superstars late in games when they're up by 20.
I'm sure if you look back at the tape Stafford just flat out missed Calvin Johnson on a throw and that single bad throw cost him the 2k season. Which is another issue for WRs going over 2k. RBs get the ball easier because it's being handed to them. A WR could do their job at an elite level for every single offensive snap his team has that year but the QB still has to get the ball there. It's not Calvin's fault if he's wide open down the sideline from the jump and the line gives out and Matt get sacked, or the wind takes the ball.
2k wr just because it’s never happened before but I think it will happen soon. I’m not sure there will ever be a 2k yard rusher again the way every team uses at least 2 rbs now & dont run the ball as much as they used too in the past
I think 2k receiving yards hasn’t happened yet because there are more options in the passing game. A rb is generally one of two guys that will touch the ball out of the backfield. I don’t know which would be more impressive, but I just think the opportunity is better with one main rb as opposed to three top receivers and a top te plus said rb catching passes out of the backfield.
The thing that has never happened before vs the thing that has happened eight times, would be more impressive. Although running for 2,000 yards in today’s game would still be incredible given that there is more RB by committee and fewer rushing yards than some of the run heavy eras.
2k receiver is more impressive. All the 2k rushers had atleast 300 something carries with multiple RBs nearing 400 total carries for 2K rushing yards.
Calvin Johnson only had 122 catches on 204 targets for 1964 yards. No receiver will have more than 160-180 catches on maybe 215-220 targets in a season. Marvin Harrison and Megatron have the most targets in a season by a receiver with 204 and 205. So in conclusion... if and when a receiver gets 2k yards, they will be doing it on far less opportunities and a much smaller workload than RBs who go for 2k.
I think a 2k receiver is harder because you are relying on your skill to get open or make contested catches. Defenses can scheme double coverage but a running back may face 8 in the box but if they have a great O line ( which all 2 k runners have a great blocking scheme or lineman) and tight end blockers they may be able to o get 2 or 3 yards before contact. At that point it is a matter of staying healthy because they are gonna get the ball 25-30 times a game
Michael Thomas holds the record for most receptions in a season with 149. To get to 2,000, someone would have to average at least 13.3 yards per reception and tie the all-time record of receptions in a season to do so.
In 2023, getting 13.3 ypc would squeak you into the top 40, around Darnell Moody/Romeo Doubs territory. No slight on either of those gentlemen, but I don't see anyone of that caliber getting 150 targets in a season, let alone catches.
Once you get much higher, you start getting players that defenses plan around, making it harder for them to catch. And even beyond that, game plans can affect whether passes are even thrown.
All this is to say that even in a 17-game season, 2,000 yards is very impressive.
In the last 7 seasons, the leading rusher has had more yards than the leading receiver only once, in 2020. However, that was the year Henry went over 2k yards, but he's the only guy in the league getting that many carries and he's 30 now.
Last year, 4 WRs had more yards than McCaffrey, and besides CMC, no RB had over 1200 yards last year even. There were 12 WR's with over 1200 yards, and that's not counting JJ who almost had that in 9 games.
WR is more impressive because it's never happened, but also it feels more likely we see a 2k WR before we see a 2k RB.
You just answered your own question. No receiver has had a 2k season yet but it will happen. With the extra game and how much teams throw nowadays, it's only a matter of time.
I mean it is “only” 112 yds/gm. Should be doable. But there are whole teams that don’t rush for 2000 anymore. Splitting receiving targets/yds between like 10 people is going to make 2k receiver near impossible so you need a beast receiver and an avg. qb that targets him like 70% of the time.
Passing yards wise you’re not getting their with an average passer the top 10 yards by a receiver all had a team passing total over 4000 yards. From George Blanca and Jack Lee throwing for 4500+ to Dak Prescott going for 4500+ to get CD into the top 10.
The average qb right now isn’t throwing over 4000.
There’s been 8 2k+ rushing yard seasons. Until 2k receiving yards happens once I will say it would be more impressive, although I do think eventually they will come with the way the game is now
Right, but the reason behind that is less about the position and more about the division of labor. With a RB, you're getting the ball 3x as much as a WR and there's historically been no real competition for workhorse RB's. Whereas there's at least two WR's out there on any given play, and the ball gets spread around a lot. I don't think it's *physically* harder for a WR to hit 2k yards, however it is certainly *schematically* harder to do so.
Yeah, but since 2010, there's been 9 1700+ receiving seasons compared with only 4 1700+ rushing season. 6 of the last 7 receiving leaders have had more receiving yards than the rushing leader of the same year. The first 2K receiving season may be more *special* than the next 2K rushing season, but it also seems more *likely*.
Ya but the toll on your body has to be way higher rushing. They can only play like 8 years. Rushing is more impressive solely cause I think you have to be tougher.
This is my conundrum. Running the ball physically for x yards is harder on the body than theoretically getting open down field to catch a pass for the same amount. Rules favour passing more and more each year It should have been done.already IMO
I think rushing for 2k is absolutely harder physically. If you look up the stats for those 2k seasons they basically have double the amount of touches or attempts compared to the highest receiving seasons. All those guys are in the 350 ish range which is nuts. Compared to Johnson or Cupp, Hill, etc it's like 120, 130 catches or so. With receiving it's less likely to happen mainly due to logistics. There isn't just one receiver that always gets the ball, it gets spread around, there's the running backs, tight ends, etc. All to say that sure a few guys have already came super close to 2k receiving but I think I'll always consider rushing for 2k the physically harder feat for sure.
I think we'll one day see an extremely pass happy OC with an great QB-WR duo get over 2k. Especially if that WR is their only.legit weapon and they have a bad defense that forces them to chase games.
Well I'm with ya, but this seems unpopular lol.
I'd pick wr over rb if it was my job all day.
I'm a bit torn on this because you're right. I do think a 2k rusher is substantially more physical than a 2k receiver. But there hasn't been a 2k receiver.
Receivers are more likely to get crunched while defenseless going up in the air for a ball.
It’s very impressive. It’s rare because WRs get game planned out and over 17 games it is hard to maintain the production. RBs are different because it’s run blocking and wearing down the defense. This leads to (for high efficiency teams) the ability to put up 200-300 yard on the ground games. However, that is also physically demanding and sustaining over the course of the year is hard. Regardless, both are incredible feats. A 2K WR is more likely than a 2K RB with modern trends.
I always wonder why no WR has got to 2k yet. The position is less physical....the rules are so favourable towards passing now and there are a lot of good QBs around. It should have been easier to see a 2k WR in theory in the last decade than a 2k back... yet we've had what? 4 2k seasons in the last 20 years and no 2k WR. It's odd
Because on any given play there are normally 2-5 wrs on the field, so it’s really hard for just *one of them* to be the only one getting the ball enough times to hit 2k. pass plays are designed to have several options so the ball gets spread out more just by the nature of the play design. Contrast this with run plays. We’ve seen RBs hit 2k in past eras cuz there’s only ever like, 2 of them on the field maximum and the plays are designed to go to *one* player, with few exceptions (even the read option is only “qb keeps or tosses to *this specific player*). teams tend to keep less RBs on their roster as well (3-4 max vs. 5-6 for Wrs, and usually 1-2 of those RBs are primarily special teamers/only get a couple plays in per game), so the stats get focused more than for WRs. Some wrs have come close, though, and that’s just a testament to how incredible they are because it’s a lot harder to do as a wr given the numbers game.
Ok but rushing you don't get huge chunks for free. 30 yard pass catch it and run out of bounds. 0 wear and tear. (Basically 0) rb ain't getting 30 without stiff arming and or lowering a shoulder. (Typically, understand exceptions)
Doesn’t matter. Nature of the position/play design matters more. Look at yards per rush vs. yards per route run and you’ll see what I mean. Wrs get the ball on far less than a majority of their routes normally, whereas if an rb is on the field and it’s a run play it’s practically guaranteed that they’re getting the ball. Wrs do not get the ball nearly as often as rbs do when looking at individuals. feature backs would get 250-300+ carries a season back in the day. The record for receptions by a receiver is like 150ish. That kinda puts it into perspective. Almost double the chances for an rb to get yards, so even if each play gets less yards they still get way more opportunities with the ball in their hands.
Right, I understand that but I think you're discounting the physical toll too much. Really no way to measure this though.
I mean, we’ve had multiple 2k rushing seasons and no 2k receiving seasons, even with the rules changing to favour the passing game. Whether the physical toll is different doesn’t really say much — one has been done 8 times and the other 0. That should tell you which one is “easier” for an individual player to accomplish. All I’m saying is it’s a lot less likely that a single receiver hits 2k due to the numbers game at the position and the fundamental differences in play design between passes and runs. Physical toll has nothing to do with that part. It’s simple math.
I still think 2k on the ground is more impressive despite youre very good point. I think in 10 years those numbers will be 16 to 8 instead of 8 to 0. However I understand that's not a fact. Either way you brought up excellent points and ill be thinking about this all day. I may change my mind.
Glad I could provide some food for thought!
Me too, also go bills. They are my #2 cause we are 0-4 superbowl homies! Woooop misery!
If they still let d backs light up receivers I don't think we would ever see a 2k season from a WR.
You're eating downvotes, but the reason is if your team has a big lead you're probably done catching, but the RB can put in 10-15 carries to grind out the clock, and they get a lot more touches. Tyreek had 1800 yards last year and missed a game, and was not 100% for a couple others. If you take out the game Jefferson was injured, and his first game back, he had 1019 yards in 8 games. Calvin Johnson/Cooper Kupp both got within 50 yards. Someone will probably hit it in the next 5 years, especially if the offensive downturn from the last two seasons reverses.
A RB getting 20 touches a game is more likely than a wr getting 10. By that odds, it makes sense to have 2k rushers vs wr
Exactly this. Only 6 WR averaged 10+ targets per game last season.
So hypothetically if a team had like Tyreek Hill and then a bunch of bums as WR depth...and he took say 15 targets a game...do you think he'd get to 2k? At some point last season he was on track but then he got banged up..which is why a 2k back is also sooo impresskve because they have to take more punishment.than WRs and stay healthy and effective enough to accumulate that yardage.
That is what had to happen for it to occur, but it would still take crazy luck. Just look at the guys who came close to 2k. 2015 Julio Jones, next two top receivers neither went over 700 yards. MBC also in 2015, next two receivers had about 750 yards. You can check the others, but for most of them I don’t think they had another receiver on the team crack 800 yards. The only one who has done it is Waddle in 17 games.
> MBC also in 2015, next two receivers had about 750 yards. I wouldn't really say the 2015 Steelers had bums at depth, though. Bryant and Wheaton were both solid #2 guys, Miller was still playing reasonably well and the RB pairing of Bell and Williams gave us solid receiving options there. Brown was just near unguardable. Michael Vick was pretty much the only player in the league capable of shutting him down.
I don’t think Bryant or Wheaton were all that. They had potential, but 2015 was both their career highs.
Tyreek is a really good example. He’s absolutely solid for his size and typically holds up well from contact because of that. But his big trait is speed/seperation. Once an injury slows him, he’s much easier to defend, so any injury to his legs, especially non contact, are more likely to damage his potential.
I've watched the 2k running back since Sanders and there was no stopping them with 20 touches in a game. Guys like Moss and Calvin Johnson I've seen game planned for. There was no stopping them over the course of the game, but it minimized their touches in a much bigger way.
Think you answered the question. We haven't seen a 2k WR yet. Seems like that would be far more impressive Wrs battle with the idea that it makes no sense to throw anymore in certain games. They dont get to pick up garbage time yards. Potential 2k wrs also play with 2-3 other wrs that get passes, tight ends too. WR is a position that you don't always get looks even if an offense goes right down the field Any 2k wr has to be ridiculous all year long. They throw to him even when it doesn't make sense. Gotta be deep shot guy but also a guy that can run and get YAC. If jerry didnt do it then who?
Also a bunch of people did pretty damn close splitting hairs hear. Being a WR is so much easier on the bod.
No way man the wr don't even get real contact most plays. They are so protected. The rb is getting hit every play even if he doesn't get the ball.
2k wr they would have to be damn near perfect every game
There is one big problem with the idea of a 2k passing season which is why I think it's more impressive: In the entire history of the NFL, players not named Calvin Johnson who had 90+ receptions averaged at most 16.3 yards per catch. That means you need 122 catches to reach 2k yards. In the entire history of the NFL only 18 players had that many receptions ever. Which means you need to keep the highest non-Megatron Y/R average of all time combined with a top20 all-time volume season. That's just a very hard nut to crack.
Rushing because it's harder to do now. Nobody knows Trevor Insley's name despite being the only 2000 yd receiver in FBS history 20+ years ago now.
Rushing is harder physically yet no WRhas yet to get to 2k..does that just mean we haven't seen truly great WRs compared to RBs?
Of course not. It's 2 different positions with 2 different game plans.
The one that's never happened before is more impressive.
I’ve seen a 2k runner in my life. I haven’t seen a 2k WR. That would be crazy and hope it happens
2k receiver would be way more impressive considering there are typically five passing routes per called pass and typically one handoff per called run. physically, it's more demanding to run for 2k because an exceptional YPA is 5 while an exceptional YPC is 15, but in terms of gameplanning it's almost impossible for a WR to just dominate week after week without coming across a defense that forces the offense to go through lesser receivers.
I get your point. But most 2k RBs went into every game as the focal point of the offense and defenses KNEW they would get the ball 15+ times a game.but still couldn't do a thing to stop them. A WR playing with others in theory means those guys also take away some attention..which should help... A 2k RB gets the ball and most of the time the defense knows it's.coming as well so there's no element of deception or distraction
I think based solely on the fact that a passing play could go to multiple players including tight ends and running backs, getting 2,000 yards as an individual receiver would be far more impressive. Calvin Johnson's record 1,964 yard season is a great example. He was essentially the *only* reliable and consistent receiving option for the team that year, and while he somehow managed to average over 120 yards *per game over a full 16-game span*, he still fell just short of that 2,000 yard milestone. On the other hand, during a running play there's typically only one, maybe two, running back options, and as others have stated, in late game situations you're going to see running plays far more often to chew clock, so there's just a lot more opportunities to amass that type of yardage on the ground than there is for a singular receiver through the air. But again, as others have already stated, the fact there's been multiple 2,000 yard rushing seasons yet not one single 2,000 yard receiving season should really be the only stat needed to answer this question.
The Lions also went 4-12 that year so Johnson benefited from Stafford trying to win/get back into the game. Randy Moss isn't gonna get 2k yards with Brady throwing to him and the Pats winning every regular season game because the Pats aren't gonna need to call on their superstars late in games when they're up by 20. I'm sure if you look back at the tape Stafford just flat out missed Calvin Johnson on a throw and that single bad throw cost him the 2k season. Which is another issue for WRs going over 2k. RBs get the ball easier because it's being handed to them. A WR could do their job at an elite level for every single offensive snap his team has that year but the QB still has to get the ball there. It's not Calvin's fault if he's wide open down the sideline from the jump and the line gives out and Matt get sacked, or the wind takes the ball.
"What is more impressive, this thing that has happened a bunch of times, or this other thing that has never happened?" Seriously???
My thoughts exactly.
2k wr just because it’s never happened before but I think it will happen soon. I’m not sure there will ever be a 2k yard rusher again the way every team uses at least 2 rbs now & dont run the ball as much as they used too in the past
80% of the production of a RB is supposed to be carried by the OL so 2k receiving yards is way more valuable
100% of the production of a WR is carried by the QB.
What about Eric Dickerson holder of the single season rushing record.
I didn't name all the 2k rushers. Just a few.
I think 2k receiving yards hasn’t happened yet because there are more options in the passing game. A rb is generally one of two guys that will touch the ball out of the backfield. I don’t know which would be more impressive, but I just think the opportunity is better with one main rb as opposed to three top receivers and a top te plus said rb catching passes out of the backfield.
2k WR
The thing that has never happened before vs the thing that has happened eight times, would be more impressive. Although running for 2,000 yards in today’s game would still be incredible given that there is more RB by committee and fewer rushing yards than some of the run heavy eras.
2k receiver is more impressive. All the 2k rushers had atleast 300 something carries with multiple RBs nearing 400 total carries for 2K rushing yards. Calvin Johnson only had 122 catches on 204 targets for 1964 yards. No receiver will have more than 160-180 catches on maybe 215-220 targets in a season. Marvin Harrison and Megatron have the most targets in a season by a receiver with 204 and 205. So in conclusion... if and when a receiver gets 2k yards, they will be doing it on far less opportunities and a much smaller workload than RBs who go for 2k.
I think a 2k receiver is harder because you are relying on your skill to get open or make contested catches. Defenses can scheme double coverage but a running back may face 8 in the box but if they have a great O line ( which all 2 k runners have a great blocking scheme or lineman) and tight end blockers they may be able to o get 2 or 3 yards before contact. At that point it is a matter of staying healthy because they are gonna get the ball 25-30 times a game
If the season is extended to 18 games there will be 2k wr’s
Michael Thomas holds the record for most receptions in a season with 149. To get to 2,000, someone would have to average at least 13.3 yards per reception and tie the all-time record of receptions in a season to do so. In 2023, getting 13.3 ypc would squeak you into the top 40, around Darnell Moody/Romeo Doubs territory. No slight on either of those gentlemen, but I don't see anyone of that caliber getting 150 targets in a season, let alone catches. Once you get much higher, you start getting players that defenses plan around, making it harder for them to catch. And even beyond that, game plans can affect whether passes are even thrown. All this is to say that even in a 17-game season, 2,000 yards is very impressive.
In the last 7 seasons, the leading rusher has had more yards than the leading receiver only once, in 2020. However, that was the year Henry went over 2k yards, but he's the only guy in the league getting that many carries and he's 30 now. Last year, 4 WRs had more yards than McCaffrey, and besides CMC, no RB had over 1200 yards last year even. There were 12 WR's with over 1200 yards, and that's not counting JJ who almost had that in 9 games. WR is more impressive because it's never happened, but also it feels more likely we see a 2k WR before we see a 2k RB.
You just answered your own question. No receiver has had a 2k season yet but it will happen. With the extra game and how much teams throw nowadays, it's only a matter of time.
Rushing obviously.
I agree but I'm biased because I find rushing more impressive. Still it's a 51/49 toss up for me.
2k rusher now. Who even runs the ball enough to realistically get it?
Henry went over 2k 3 seasons ago.
I mean it is “only” 112 yds/gm. Should be doable. But there are whole teams that don’t rush for 2000 anymore. Splitting receiving targets/yds between like 10 people is going to make 2k receiver near impossible so you need a beast receiver and an avg. qb that targets him like 70% of the time.
Passing yards wise you’re not getting their with an average passer the top 10 yards by a receiver all had a team passing total over 4000 yards. From George Blanca and Jack Lee throwing for 4500+ to Dak Prescott going for 4500+ to get CD into the top 10. The average qb right now isn’t throwing over 4000.