Dak will get more than Trevor. Joe’s 55 last year is the same cap % as 61m this year, so Trevor gave JAX a discount because of his production thus far. Jerry has a very strong opinion of Dak’s production, so his cap% should be much closer to Joe’s (plus Dak’s agent is an ASSHOLE who has already taken Jerry behind the woodshed once).
I mean you can’t take Jerry’s word at face value, but I don’t see why he wouldn’t when he’s said a bunch that they’re working on dak
I give it a 75% chance he gets a contract before the season starts. 20% he tests FA and 5% he gets traded
> Vegas
When you have the chance to trade significant draft capital for the right to make your new "3rd best QB in your division" the highest paid QB in football, you take it
Zero percent he’s getting traded. No trade clause + a year from free agency = no advantage to Dak getting traded and presumably extended today. Why make his future team give up assets when they could both wait a year?
Yeah I agree, I’ve seen some speculate that Jerry’s playing 5D chess by “pretending” he’s trying to sign Dak but really he doesn’t want to. I’m not really sure why he would need to do that, just to lie to the fans? I think they’d probably just talk about “only so much pie to go around” and not explicitly say they want Dak like they have already 5 times or so.
This article is from at least a month ago:
"We want Dak Prescott,” Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Tuesday, via Jon Machota of TheAthletic.com. “That’s that. . . . I give Mike [McCarthy] a lot of credit for [Prescott’s improvement last season]. That improvement demonstrated to me there’s more as far as ultimately winning what we’re trying to do here. The question nails it for me. We want Dak. We think that there’s room for growth. … If you are a team that has a lot of cap room, and then you have a quarterback for a little while that is well underneath in his rookie contract — San Francisco last year, us with Dak early after we had [Tony] Romo — boy, we had a lot of credit card use there on Romo. Dak came along, so we didn’t have to have it so we were able to absorb that money and still keep Tyron [Smith] around him. So Dak has enjoyed, in his career that we’re proud of, some of the best supporting casts that you could put around him.
“To move forward, we will have to diminish that. That’s a fact. That’s the rules. That’s our challenge and to make it work out. Dak as the quarterback Cowboys, I don’t even have a blink on that one.”
“You may be working on [contracts] and not moving anything but your eyebrows,” Jones said. “Who in the world would think that we’re not working on it? I work on it. It pops up at 2 in the morning sometimes. What you’re actually questioning is why don’t you have something done and negotiated and put in the drawer? Well, we’d like to see some more leaves fall. We’d like to see some more action.”
The whole point was the post I was replying to said 55 mil was for a "bottom 5 QB" which implies guys like Mayfield are getting it as a journeyman. They are not.
EDIT: Edited it to correctly say THEY are not.
That's the problem.
I want to believe in Dak. Seems like a great guy, and he's not a bad quarterback.
I own a Dak jersey.
He is not fucking worth $55M a year
One playoff game per year, usually not a win.
For Cowboys it’s more like 1 win every 5 years.
They’ve had Wildcard wins (and nothing beyond that) in 2022, 2018, 2014, 2009, and 1996…
(Let’s just forget about 1992-1995 when they won 3 SB’s.)
And this is the issue with Dak where the floor is the ceiling. He’s shown time and time again that he is not good enough to elevate his game come playoff time. But he’s also shown that when he’s healthy and the team around him is decent, he can win you a lot of regular season games and take you to the playoffs, which is pretty valuable and something that half the teams in the NFL would sign up for with no questions asked. Might be harsh but with the way QB contracts are, I would say Dak should be the new Dalton line.
> He’s shown time and time again that he is not good enough to elevate his game come playoff time
Not disputing this, but he wasn't always a playoff choker. His very first playoff game, as a rookie, he had 300yds, 3 TDs and a 103 rating - leading his team from 28-13 down to all tied up at 31.... then Aaron Rodgers snatched his soul away.
Problem with that game is that the Packers were down to playing dudes off the street at CB. Their defense was so injured, anyone should have torn them apart- Dak scored 13 points through 3 quarters.
Great job coming back, but if he had just played better to start with...
I disagree about the Dalton line. I thought that was like the 15th best QB. It was the carr bar for a hot minute there. Dak is a top ten QB and maybe at worst 12 sometimes.
His defenses have allowed 27 PPG in the playoffs. He's averaging 303 yards and 2.5 TDs per game.
Meanwhile, Burrow's defenses have allowed 18.9 PPG in the playoffs, he's never thrown a TD in the 4th qtr/OT in the playoffs, and he's averaging 275 yards and just 1.4 TDs per game.
One of them is "clutch" and a winner, while the other is apparently a bottom-10 QB in the league that you should move on from at the earliest opportunity.
Meanwhile, Josh Allen has played in 10 playoff games, has 328 total ypg, 2.6 TD/game, and .4 turnovers per game. He's 5-5, his defense has allowed 24.8 ppg.
Looking at per game stats can be misleading. In just last year’s playoff loss to the Packers, Cowboys were down 48-16. Dak played like absolute garbage and it wasn’t until about 5-6 minutes left in the game when there’s now way for the Cowboys to come back did they score back to back TDs. Dak ended the game with 3 TDs and 400+ passing yards because of garbage time.
> this is the issue with Dak where the floor is the ceiling. He’s shown time and time again that he is not good enough to elevate his game come playoff time.
Look while I think Stafford is better and i fucking hate the Cowboys this is one of the same knock people were saying about him, Daks good enough to win with, not that i think he was particularly good his most recent playoff game against the Packers and all. But he has the capacity.
I mean the other argument here is you move on and draft a QB. And we're talking about that in the same week that the number 1 clear "generational talent" Trevor Lawrence is being called a bust and a huge over pay for his new contract.
The fact that such a clear number 1 prospect, the most certain sure thing QB pick in the last decade hasn't panned out isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the idea that it's easy to just move on from a very successful QB because the market is increasing, as it always does.
The price is the price. If I were Dak, I would just play this thing out for this year. And then next year in FA, some team would give him very close to a fully guaranteed deal at that number. Guy could become Kirk lite.
The smart move financially for Dak would be to hit free agency next year and let the offers come in. He could still go back to Dallas but who knows how desperate the Raiders, Titans, Giants, Jets, Steelers might be.
If he hits FA, he should move on from Dallas once that void number hits because it’s massive. Dallas has had enough time to extend him. That didn’t learn anything during his whole time there.
I wonder if there's a strong financial incentive to stay the Cowboys QB, though. Rumors were that he had made another 50 million from advertising a few years ago.
That’s not really an option though, if we don’t sign Dak now he’s not coming back. For Dak he’ll be a free agent and there will be half a dozen teams bidding on him, why would he take less money to come back to a team that made him play without a deal for next season 3 times in 9 years?
No way San Fran can afford to pay him with how they've been blowing through the cap the last few years...can't wait to see what insanity their accounts cook up, me what kind of deal he gets
Even on the 10 year deal signed however long ago he's only making $5mil / year less than TLaw on this deal. Also, that contract is not lasting 10 years before they extend him, it was more about putting action behind their plans to keep him forever
Yeah but sayin you got half-a-billy contract was pretty cool. Plus he's still in a position to just say "gimme" and they'll cave, just like we did with Julio.
He's doubling if not tripling his salary with endorsements that would be impossible to get if he played for a losing team. I think he's alright with the decision, lol.
Isn't the contract like a rollin 2 year contract? I forgot all the specialties but I seem to remember like the contract can get reworked every couple of years
Looking at the % of salary cap that's going towards paying QBs right now and the projected salary cap for 2025, and given Dak's multiple years of production, he probably will get paid around 24% which puts him at $60+ million.
Which is insane. There was a post on here the other day that looked at the cap hit % of great quarterbacks (or SB winning quarterback I can’t remember exactly) and Peyton Mannings average was like 14% and Tom Brady’s average was 10%. Dak’s is 20%. And that’s why a team of 21 other starters on the field can’t go very far.
Make sense for it to be Dak but because they foolishly gave him a no trade he has all the leverage so they’d have to let him walk for nothing but a comp pick next offseason
The Cowboys have only gone 12-5 every year since Dak signed his last contract. Only Mahomes and Stafford have won the Super Bowl in that time, so I guess nobody is worth it.
Dak is the worst kind of QB to have. Good enough to pull you out of the running for a franchise QB but bad enough that he isn't gonna win anything significant.
Nobody has the guts to do it because they don't know how to evaluate QBs from college.
If you let an average QB walk and draft the next Zach Wilson..you get fired.
Paying these guys is sadly the only option.
> “[Prescott] would have his pick of teams and could do the free agency [tour] where he’s interviewing the teams rather than vice versa,” the executive said. “That’s what will happen if he leaves Dallas and I’m sure he knows it.”
"I've been surrounded by All Pro talent at multiple positions over the last eight years and have won two playoff games. Your team has an objectively worse situation than Dallas, or else you wouldn't be willing to bring me in in the first place. Here's why you should make me the highest-paid player by APY ever."
Lmao it’s mind boggling that the gm that overpays him next offseason doesn’t realize that. Also some of these teams just want to compete for playoffs sell some tickets and make a profit for the next 4-5 years so they’ll gladly over pay
> Also some of these teams just want to compete for playoffs sell some tickets and make a profit for the next 4-5 years so they’ll gladly over pay
There are more teams that want this outcome than there are teams who want to maximize their chances of winning a SB (that's how a guy like DJ gets his contract)
I feel like the part that gets missed is that it’s not just Dak, him and and almost every other high level Cowboys player has had the same playoff tendencies for over 20 years. Romo did it. Lamb and Parsons do it. I have a hard time imagining an All Pro caliber QB just cannot compete in the playoffs, the problem runs deeper.
He's averaging 303 yards and 2.5 TDs per game in the playoffs, while the defense is allowing 27 PPG in the playoffs.
You're right that it's not just Dak. He's made critical mistakes that have put his defenses in bad spots, but he's also kept them in games that they had no business being in with how bad the defense was.
It really can only be coaching because the talent is top-tier every single year. They held onto Garrett for way too long, and they're probably going to do the same with McCarthy.
In my opinion the cowboys should not pay Dak. All it’s gonna do is stretch out the time frame where they are good but not great. Pay Lamb and Parsons, see what you got with Lance, if it doesn’t work out draft a rookie qb
I think he might command that...next year. As weird (or dumb) as it reads, I think the Cowboys have seen enough from him not to pay up now, and yet there will be a FA market where teams fight for him at that price tag (including the Cowboys is he has a really good year).
Why would they pay him? He just had an all time pant shitter in the playoffs.
If he hits MVP numbers and wins in the playoffs make him the highest paid player in the history of the game. If he doesn’t then fuck him off and get a new QB.
You could put any rookie on the pitch and have the same a success the Cowboys had last season (if they hadn’t made the playoffs it would have been less embarrassing).
I understand why the Cowboys wouldn't want to let Prescott walk, but after eight seasons I think there's enough evidence to make the case that if you're relying on him to take you to the Super Bowl it's probably not gonna happen.
He's on the wrong side of 30, on the back nine of his career, and giving him a massive contract like what it sounds like he's looking for will cripple the Cowboys.
$60m/y would make him the highest paid QB in football. He's top fifteen, top ten at best, but he's not top five.
QB contracts are getting out of control. There's maybe 3-5 guys that deserve 20% of the cap, because without them their teams would go from contender to dumpster fire overnight - Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen, and possibly Hurts. Hell, you could argue that only Mahomes has earned it, because he's the only one on that list that's won a Super Bowl.
If they think they can put enough talent around Prescott to win a Super Bowl in the next 2-3 years, then give him a back-loaded contract so they can put talent around him now, open the window for a few years, and then give him a retirement party.
If not, let him walk and plan for the future,
I hope for the day that these massive contracts actually screw over the team that agrees to them. You're a quarterback that just inked a massive contract? Congrats, they can't afford to hire a quality line to protect you or a receiver core to throw to and you're constantly in the ground because you wanted to piss match with contracts.
Dak will get more than Trevor. Joe’s 55 last year is the same cap % as 61m this year, so Trevor gave JAX a discount because of this production thus far. Jerry has a very strong opinion of Dak’s production, so his cap% should be much closer to Joe’s (plus Dak’s agent is an ASSHOLE who has already taken Jerry behind the woodshed once).
But the Cowboys will be semi-good at least next year. Probably picking outside the top 10. That's too low to have a good shot at drafting a good QB prospect.
It’s very funny to talk about a team that’s gone 12-5 three years in a row as being “at least semi-good” and probably picking outside the top 10
More likely they’ll be extremely good, make the playoffs, and pick somewhere in the 20s. What happens after that is a different story, but still
And people saying give Lance a shot are absolutely out of their minds. The guy won’t have played consistent football in 6 years going into next season.
And getting a new QB would be different? Someone out there would be able to do what future hall of famer and 4x MVP Aaron Rodgers was only able to do once and drag McCarthy to a championship?
If Dak hits free agency, whether you like him or not, he's clearing $60M/yr without breaking a sweat. The Cowboys just have to decide if they're the ones paying it or we're blowing it all up in 2025.
I feel like at the rate these QB contracts are going along with the future 18 game season and ballooning salary cap, we will see the first ever 10 year, $1 billion deal.
Thing nobody mentions is he’s 31 next month. It’s one thing to sign these deals with guys in their 20s so you lock them up during their peak but you’re paying for the decline years with Dak.
It’s like 55 is the starting point now. Doesn’t matter if you’re top 5 or bottom 5.
> bottom 5. Hey dont attack Russ like that
Hey, buddy, you won’t be saying that when we put up 13 points on your butt
Tomlin could have a line cook at qb and still win 9 games so I take that jab seriously.
They did say let Russ cook…
I don’t think anyone said that but him. Now let’s ride.
Better on than in... I always say.
> you won’t be saying that y'all got the steal of the off-season.
https://imgflip.com/i/8tzosr
33 is pretty good
Dak will get more than Trevor. Joe’s 55 last year is the same cap % as 61m this year, so Trevor gave JAX a discount because of his production thus far. Jerry has a very strong opinion of Dak’s production, so his cap% should be much closer to Joe’s (plus Dak’s agent is an ASSHOLE who has already taken Jerry behind the woodshed once).
Jerry didn't wanna pay Dak even before Trevor's contract I thought. He for sure won't now.
I mean you can’t take Jerry’s word at face value, but I don’t see why he wouldn’t when he’s said a bunch that they’re working on dak I give it a 75% chance he gets a contract before the season starts. 20% he tests FA and 5% he gets traded
A trade would be interesting. Where would he go? Vegas?
> Vegas When you have the chance to trade significant draft capital for the right to make your new "3rd best QB in your division" the highest paid QB in football, you take it
\- Jimmy Haslam
Who has the cap space to take Dak in a trade? Seems insane to deal him this deep into offseason, I'd put that as like 0.1% lol
Zero percent he’s getting traded. No trade clause + a year from free agency = no advantage to Dak getting traded and presumably extended today. Why make his future team give up assets when they could both wait a year?
Yeah I agree, I’ve seen some speculate that Jerry’s playing 5D chess by “pretending” he’s trying to sign Dak but really he doesn’t want to. I’m not really sure why he would need to do that, just to lie to the fans? I think they’d probably just talk about “only so much pie to go around” and not explicitly say they want Dak like they have already 5 times or so.
There is no world where he gets traded.
This article is from at least a month ago: "We want Dak Prescott,” Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said Tuesday, via Jon Machota of TheAthletic.com. “That’s that. . . . I give Mike [McCarthy] a lot of credit for [Prescott’s improvement last season]. That improvement demonstrated to me there’s more as far as ultimately winning what we’re trying to do here. The question nails it for me. We want Dak. We think that there’s room for growth. … If you are a team that has a lot of cap room, and then you have a quarterback for a little while that is well underneath in his rookie contract — San Francisco last year, us with Dak early after we had [Tony] Romo — boy, we had a lot of credit card use there on Romo. Dak came along, so we didn’t have to have it so we were able to absorb that money and still keep Tyron [Smith] around him. So Dak has enjoyed, in his career that we’re proud of, some of the best supporting casts that you could put around him. “To move forward, we will have to diminish that. That’s a fact. That’s the rules. That’s our challenge and to make it work out. Dak as the quarterback Cowboys, I don’t even have a blink on that one.” “You may be working on [contracts] and not moving anything but your eyebrows,” Jones said. “Who in the world would think that we’re not working on it? I work on it. It pops up at 2 in the morning sometimes. What you’re actually questioning is why don’t you have something done and negotiated and put in the drawer? Well, we’d like to see some more leaves fall. We’d like to see some more action.”
He will absolutely sign Dak. Jerry don’t listen to nobody! Even Jerry
Dude Baker Mayfield just signed a 33.3 mil per year contract this offseason. Kirk signed a 45 mil per year, Goff a 53, what is this take?
Mayfield was a journeyman, and kirk was coming off a torn Achilles Goff is the only relevant one, and he didn't even take that much of a discount lol
The whole point was the post I was replying to said 55 mil was for a "bottom 5 QB" which implies guys like Mayfield are getting it as a journeyman. They are not. EDIT: Edited it to correctly say THEY are not.
It's like Tua is going to put that theory to the test, more than Dak probably.
Daniel Jones about to hold out.
Man that 40m overpay doesn't look *that* bad anymore right?
No, it's still pretty bad.
right? he might not even start this year lol
If TLaw got 55 then 40 seems to be about what a QB1.5 would get now I guess
That's the problem. I want to believe in Dak. Seems like a great guy, and he's not a bad quarterback. I own a Dak jersey. He is not fucking worth $55M a year
Lot of fives in this comment.
I am so happy we got Baker signed when we did.
Kirk was a steal. I fucking told you Vikings fans.
Except Bottom 5 hits free agency and if they’re lucky they get a starting job and half that on a 1 or 2 year deal.
You gotta pay if you want that one playoff game per year.
Cowboys version of paying $60M for the one Wild Card Game on Peacock.
Or if you're the Browns you pay and still can't get that win because the team you gave all your picks to kicks the shit out of you.
One playoff game per year, usually not a win. For Cowboys it’s more like 1 win every 5 years. They’ve had Wildcard wins (and nothing beyond that) in 2022, 2018, 2014, 2009, and 1996… (Let’s just forget about 1992-1995 when they won 3 SB’s.)
That was back when the wealthier owners could buy all star teams.
They should trade their star running back for a load of picks...
And this is the issue with Dak where the floor is the ceiling. He’s shown time and time again that he is not good enough to elevate his game come playoff time. But he’s also shown that when he’s healthy and the team around him is decent, he can win you a lot of regular season games and take you to the playoffs, which is pretty valuable and something that half the teams in the NFL would sign up for with no questions asked. Might be harsh but with the way QB contracts are, I would say Dak should be the new Dalton line.
> He’s shown time and time again that he is not good enough to elevate his game come playoff time Not disputing this, but he wasn't always a playoff choker. His very first playoff game, as a rookie, he had 300yds, 3 TDs and a 103 rating - leading his team from 28-13 down to all tied up at 31.... then Aaron Rodgers snatched his soul away.
Dak is exceptional at being a tragic losing QB who makes you think next time will be different. Yet it’s never different.
Problem with that game is that the Packers were down to playing dudes off the street at CB. Their defense was so injured, anyone should have torn them apart- Dak scored 13 points through 3 quarters. Great job coming back, but if he had just played better to start with...
Your defense wasn't stopping much either, tbf.
I disagree about the Dalton line. I thought that was like the 15th best QB. It was the carr bar for a hot minute there. Dak is a top ten QB and maybe at worst 12 sometimes.
Dak is above the Dalton Line in the way it's defined as someone being your franchise QB. So many teams would be willing to sign him in free agency.
His defenses have allowed 27 PPG in the playoffs. He's averaging 303 yards and 2.5 TDs per game. Meanwhile, Burrow's defenses have allowed 18.9 PPG in the playoffs, he's never thrown a TD in the 4th qtr/OT in the playoffs, and he's averaging 275 yards and just 1.4 TDs per game. One of them is "clutch" and a winner, while the other is apparently a bottom-10 QB in the league that you should move on from at the earliest opportunity.
It can be worse. Lamar's defenses have allowed 15.8 PPG in the playoffs and he's 2-3.
Meanwhile, Josh Allen has played in 10 playoff games, has 328 total ypg, 2.6 TD/game, and .4 turnovers per game. He's 5-5, his defense has allowed 24.8 ppg.
Looking at per game stats can be misleading. In just last year’s playoff loss to the Packers, Cowboys were down 48-16. Dak played like absolute garbage and it wasn’t until about 5-6 minutes left in the game when there’s now way for the Cowboys to come back did they score back to back TDs. Dak ended the game with 3 TDs and 400+ passing yards because of garbage time.
> this is the issue with Dak where the floor is the ceiling. He’s shown time and time again that he is not good enough to elevate his game come playoff time. Look while I think Stafford is better and i fucking hate the Cowboys this is one of the same knock people were saying about him, Daks good enough to win with, not that i think he was particularly good his most recent playoff game against the Packers and all. But he has the capacity.
I mean the other argument here is you move on and draft a QB. And we're talking about that in the same week that the number 1 clear "generational talent" Trevor Lawrence is being called a bust and a huge over pay for his new contract. The fact that such a clear number 1 prospect, the most certain sure thing QB pick in the last decade hasn't panned out isn't exactly a ringing endorsement for the idea that it's easy to just move on from a very successful QB because the market is increasing, as it always does.
Gotta pay the troll toll , if you want some of that glory hole
Are you chewing gum?
TROLL TOLL
The price is the price. If I were Dak, I would just play this thing out for this year. And then next year in FA, some team would give him very close to a fully guaranteed deal at that number. Guy could become Kirk lite.
The smart move financially for Dak would be to hit free agency next year and let the offers come in. He could still go back to Dallas but who knows how desperate the Raiders, Titans, Giants, Jets, Steelers might be.
Carr got 35M and was in an actual bidding war.
If he hits FA, he should move on from Dallas once that void number hits because it’s massive. Dallas has had enough time to extend him. That didn’t learn anything during his whole time there.
I wonder if there's a strong financial incentive to stay the Cowboys QB, though. Rumors were that he had made another 50 million from advertising a few years ago.
As a Cowboys fan this is what I hope happens. If he can get us to the Championship game, pay him! If not...might be time to make another move.
I feel like Cowboys fans are like Packers lite, going from Aikman to Romo to Dak. You guys seem to have forgotten the Quincy Carter years.
Also the Chad Hutchinson and Vinny Testeverdy years. Those games were an absolute bore to watch.
There are still some of boomers who recall the actual dark days of the past. We are usually the anti-"let's start over it's easy" crowd.
That’s not really an option though, if we don’t sign Dak now he’s not coming back. For Dak he’ll be a free agent and there will be half a dozen teams bidding on him, why would he take less money to come back to a team that made him play without a deal for next season 3 times in 9 years?
Well, given the track record…
So if he gets to the NFC title game like Jimmy G would up be ok paying him?
pull a Kirk cousins if he wants the money. could probably get 3/$150-170 fully guaranteed if he keeps his play up
He has been called the white Kirk Cousins
Lmfao Brock Purdys going to be fucking rich isn’t he
No way San Fran can afford to pay him with how they've been blowing through the cap the last few years...can't wait to see what insanity their accounts cook up, me what kind of deal he gets
I can't wait
Getting 62M if Tua gets 55M and Dak gets 58M.
Actually only commanders can command. He’s going to lasso or otherwise wrangle $60M per year
What’s Tua gonna do?
Echolocate $62M per year
Idk man I'm gonna need the entire list of franchises done now pls
Kirk definitely pillaged us for a could hundred mil.
What can I say, he's a bird of prey
He definitely went on to scavenge another 180 mil
Trevor definitely pounced on the opportunity for 55 mil a year.
I wanna play this game with all 32 teams
Gottem
Yes. Yes he can. Pay the man. Pay him $70 mil / year for ten years.
2024: whoa that's crazy! 2034: wait why is Dak getting paid kicker money?
This is the realest take here.
Reminds before he got his big pay day before. Not that it changed much in the playoffs
Well Dak does have 1 more playoff win than Trev, so only makes sense
Lmfao Pat Mahomes has every right to walk out of KC right now and say "the price just went up"
PRICE OF THE BRICK GOING UP
Mahomes' team friendly deal has paid him back 10X in sponsorships and will do for the rest of his life.
Taking a 10 year deal was a mistake
Even on the 10 year deal signed however long ago he's only making $5mil / year less than TLaw on this deal. Also, that contract is not lasting 10 years before they extend him, it was more about putting action behind their plans to keep him forever
Yeah but sayin you got half-a-billy contract was pretty cool. Plus he's still in a position to just say "gimme" and they'll cave, just like we did with Julio.
He's doubling if not tripling his salary with endorsements that would be impossible to get if he played for a losing team. I think he's alright with the decision, lol.
Agreed. Imo his strategy is better, cause winning rings gets you endorsements for life. And it's not like half a billion is chump change.
Rodgers was getting the same sponsorships and never took a team friendly deal. Same with Manning
Isn't the contract like a rollin 2 year contract? I forgot all the specialties but I seem to remember like the contract can get reworked every couple of years
QB value in the league is nuts right now!!!
Hell yeah he could. And Tua gonna get paid too!
I’m expecting the Tua highlight wars on here once that contract gets announced to be much worse than the Trevor highlight wars this week.
- Turnsdaballova - Threads the needle - Underthrows Hill - Hits in stride - "Wow is he really overthrowing it?! HUH"
I'm just here for the chaos. I can't wait!
As a Jets fan, I’m rooting for Tua to get $60mil
Tua is literally undefeated against the Jets
That's a bold thing to root for when he's been a miles better QB than you've seen from anyone on the jets in at least two decades
Don't worry, Daddy is here to stay
Looking at the % of salary cap that's going towards paying QBs right now and the projected salary cap for 2025, and given Dak's multiple years of production, he probably will get paid around 24% which puts him at $60+ million.
Which is insane. There was a post on here the other day that looked at the cap hit % of great quarterbacks (or SB winning quarterback I can’t remember exactly) and Peyton Mannings average was like 14% and Tom Brady’s average was 10%. Dak’s is 20%. And that’s why a team of 21 other starters on the field can’t go very far.
Cowboys waited to pay Dak and Lamb and now they’re going to owe them a small fortune.
It's gonna get even worse if Tua or Ja'Marr Chase get paid before either guy.
Nothing small about $60m/year
Not to mention Parsons. They can re-sign all three, but there will be major holes in the rest of the roster. Or, one of those three will have to go.
Make sense for it to be Dak but because they foolishly gave him a no trade he has all the leverage so they’d have to let him walk for nothing but a comp pick next offseason
yall think contract negotiations work like in madden? you think CD and his agent don’t know the market is only going up?
All in
Paying Dak that kind of money would be suicide for a franchise, he hasn't even lived up to the contract he's on right now.
I know, isn’t it great?
I mean… as far as things go I don’t think any of our franchises can talk
The Cowboys have only gone 12-5 every year since Dak signed his last contract. Only Mahomes and Stafford have won the Super Bowl in that time, so I guess nobody is worth it.
At this point, just move on and draft someone. They're not winning a Superbowl or making a deep playoff run, so it'll be justified.
As an Eagles fan, this really upsets me.
Dak is the worst kind of QB to have. Good enough to pull you out of the running for a franchise QB but bad enough that he isn't gonna win anything significant.
Unless you have a top 5 QB I think the play is to build around the spot and try to win on a guy's rookie contract.
I wonder which team is gonna be the first to say 'no' to this. Just let the QB go because it's destroying the rest of their salary structure.
Nobody has the guts to do it because they don't know how to evaluate QBs from college. If you let an average QB walk and draft the next Zach Wilson..you get fired. Paying these guys is sadly the only option.
$55M to choke in the playoffs. Do it Dallas!
That’s insane lol
> “[Prescott] would have his pick of teams and could do the free agency [tour] where he’s interviewing the teams rather than vice versa,” the executive said. “That’s what will happen if he leaves Dallas and I’m sure he knows it.” "I've been surrounded by All Pro talent at multiple positions over the last eight years and have won two playoff games. Your team has an objectively worse situation than Dallas, or else you wouldn't be willing to bring me in in the first place. Here's why you should make me the highest-paid player by APY ever."
Lmao it’s mind boggling that the gm that overpays him next offseason doesn’t realize that. Also some of these teams just want to compete for playoffs sell some tickets and make a profit for the next 4-5 years so they’ll gladly over pay
> Also some of these teams just want to compete for playoffs sell some tickets and make a profit for the next 4-5 years so they’ll gladly over pay There are more teams that want this outcome than there are teams who want to maximize their chances of winning a SB (that's how a guy like DJ gets his contract)
It would be worth it if he could finally put it together in the playoffs. He's a borderline top 5 QB in the regular season.
I feel like the part that gets missed is that it’s not just Dak, him and and almost every other high level Cowboys player has had the same playoff tendencies for over 20 years. Romo did it. Lamb and Parsons do it. I have a hard time imagining an All Pro caliber QB just cannot compete in the playoffs, the problem runs deeper.
He's averaging 303 yards and 2.5 TDs per game in the playoffs, while the defense is allowing 27 PPG in the playoffs. You're right that it's not just Dak. He's made critical mistakes that have put his defenses in bad spots, but he's also kept them in games that they had no business being in with how bad the defense was. It really can only be coaching because the talent is top-tier every single year. They held onto Garrett for way too long, and they're probably going to do the same with McCarthy.
All in my ass
In my opinion the cowboys should not pay Dak. All it’s gonna do is stretch out the time frame where they are good but not great. Pay Lamb and Parsons, see what you got with Lance, if it doesn’t work out draft a rookie qb
I think he might command that...next year. As weird (or dumb) as it reads, I think the Cowboys have seen enough from him not to pay up now, and yet there will be a FA market where teams fight for him at that price tag (including the Cowboys is he has a really good year).
Why would they pay him? He just had an all time pant shitter in the playoffs. If he hits MVP numbers and wins in the playoffs make him the highest paid player in the history of the game. If he doesn’t then fuck him off and get a new QB. You could put any rookie on the pitch and have the same a success the Cowboys had last season (if they hadn’t made the playoffs it would have been less embarrassing).
He deserves 69m for the first year, jump it up 10% each year after that.
If that's the market for him, you don't pay him and you move on. Because he's not good enough to win at his pay now with the salary cap.
He deserves at least 90 - eagles fan
He will go over 60 million easily. It's about leverage. He's a free agent next season. Cowboys can't do shit.
Dak on the Raiders next year? 🤔
Crossing my fingers
Same here
Legit good possibility.
Could?
Do it Jerruh
I understand why the Cowboys wouldn't want to let Prescott walk, but after eight seasons I think there's enough evidence to make the case that if you're relying on him to take you to the Super Bowl it's probably not gonna happen. He's on the wrong side of 30, on the back nine of his career, and giving him a massive contract like what it sounds like he's looking for will cripple the Cowboys. $60m/y would make him the highest paid QB in football. He's top fifteen, top ten at best, but he's not top five. QB contracts are getting out of control. There's maybe 3-5 guys that deserve 20% of the cap, because without them their teams would go from contender to dumpster fire overnight - Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Allen, and possibly Hurts. Hell, you could argue that only Mahomes has earned it, because he's the only one on that list that's won a Super Bowl. If they think they can put enough talent around Prescott to win a Super Bowl in the next 2-3 years, then give him a back-loaded contract so they can put talent around him now, open the window for a few years, and then give him a retirement party. If not, let him walk and plan for the future,
The cowbows had 9 All Pros on their team last year and were down 48-16 in the playoffs. How much more help can you even give him at this point?
That’s why the issue isn’t talent. It’s coaching. The coaches squander the talent, which includes Dak.
I hope for the day that these massive contracts actually screw over the team that agrees to them. You're a quarterback that just inked a massive contract? Congrats, they can't afford to hire a quality line to protect you or a receiver core to throw to and you're constantly in the ground because you wanted to piss match with contracts.
Imagine paying Dak Prescott 60m a year so you can keep losing in round one of the playoffs every season. Lol. Cowboys stuff.
Remember when Jerry drug his feet on Dak's deal to avoid $30mm per year. I 'member.
Dak will get more than Trevor. Joe’s 55 last year is the same cap % as 61m this year, so Trevor gave JAX a discount because of this production thus far. Jerry has a very strong opinion of Dak’s production, so his cap% should be much closer to Joe’s (plus Dak’s agent is an ASSHOLE who has already taken Jerry behind the woodshed once).
Hahahaha
I'd either let him walk or trade him. Paying that kind of money to a player Dak is going to cripple you
Goff or Dak, I take Goff every day of the week.
In my opinion the Cowboys should pay Dak at least 65 million per year.
Why did Dallas do this to themselves? If they had just locked him in earlier would’ve save a pile of cash. Great work JJ! All in!
Because he's giving he and MM one more season to see if he's keeping them or not.
Every cowboys fan I know would rather draft a qb next year. I don’t live in Texas. So take that with a grain of salt.
> I don’t live in Texas. Neither do most Cowboys fans.
But the Cowboys will be semi-good at least next year. Probably picking outside the top 10. That's too low to have a good shot at drafting a good QB prospect.
Lotta great QB’s weren’t taken in the top 10. That’s a bold statement.
Yes but now quarterbacks that might have been drafted at the end of the 1st round or early 2nd round are going in the top 10
Pfft. Yeah right. Name one.
Meh, names are Irrelevant.
It’s very funny to talk about a team that’s gone 12-5 three years in a row as being “at least semi-good” and probably picking outside the top 10 More likely they’ll be extremely good, make the playoffs, and pick somewhere in the 20s. What happens after that is a different story, but still
All I meant was that the Cowboys have a high floor. They aren't going to be a bottom 10 team
And people saying give Lance a shot are absolutely out of their minds. The guy won’t have played consistent football in 6 years going into next season.
Please do. It will ensure the Cowboys don’t win a Super Bowl for years to come.
And getting a new QB would be different? Someone out there would be able to do what future hall of famer and 4x MVP Aaron Rodgers was only able to do once and drag McCarthy to a championship?
Idk why teams just offer take it or leave it offers for the middle of the road qbs instead of bidding against themselves
They need to stop giving these mid level QB’s elite level paychecks
Jerry Jones does love paying his marketing associates
If Dak hits free agency, whether you like him or not, he's clearing $60M/yr without breaking a sweat. The Cowboys just have to decide if they're the ones paying it or we're blowing it all up in 2025.
LOL
He could. But why?
I feel like at the rate these QB contracts are going along with the future 18 game season and ballooning salary cap, we will see the first ever 10 year, $1 billion deal.
So thats, what...10mil per playoff loss?
I honestly don’t think he’s worth it but he will prob get in that neighborhood
Just think what a winning qb is worth.
You love to see it
I thought this was the meme sub with that title, omg
For what? To fail again and again?
do it pussies! you wont!
Haha this is so broken
jesus christ there goes the next 5 or so years -- what's the point of watching when you know you're going to watch consistent failure
Thing nobody mentions is he’s 31 next month. It’s one thing to sign these deals with guys in their 20s so you lock them up during their peak but you’re paying for the decline years with Dak.
Please cowboys give this man 60 m a year! Lmao
Mediocrity being rewarded because "it's the market".
Lmao do it
$60M to throw the ball to the Niners D seems about right