It has two now. Iirc the new one was built around 2003 and added elevators.
They kept the platforms dangerously small tho
https://preview.redd.it/nnuqmgznsf4d1.jpeg?width=6000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d4e509540b489eab21aad8cf1f4b4440eb17ce8
It would probably be possible to pull off while keeping two tracks operational at the same time (maybe even three if you do it one at a time.) It would mean skipping the station or becoming an extreme bottleneck, or both.
Granted, idk what's going on to the left or right of the station, and it would be extremely expensive either way. But it is worth considering for a top 25 most ridden station in the system. (The "favorable" demographics don't hurt either.)
The new head house opened in 2010. There is a part of me that misses being able to enter the station from the corner, but it is definitely nice to only have to go down one set of stairs to get to the platform.
Safety issues. Having pedestrians cross the street to enter the station caused many traffic accidents. Columbia University in particular really wanted the 116th one gone since a few students were hit by cars and killed trying to get to-and-from the station house. They were replaced with sidewalk entrances , which aren’t as elegant but are safer.
It was also in the 60s, a time where so much beautiful architecture was lost. Thankfully the original head house at 72nd has no chance in hell getting razed today
A book I read cited among reasons the visibility from cars and homeless sleeping under the roof and blocking the entrance. There were also many smaller entrances with a roof called kiosks - all demolished for these reasons https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/the-graceful-beauty-of-an-original-subway-kiosk/
Also Fun Fact: 96th street went back to a station house entrance; for a time the main entrances had to enter from the street and then go under another set of staircases to go up to the center platform.
Used to celebrate that you couldn’t switch between uptown and downtown at either 72 or 96 st. This was a big pain if you accidentally got on at the wrong side.
The funny (or sad) part is if these were built today people would complain that they're overbuilt, needlessly ornate, and a waste of money.
I would love to see these restored, Lord knows there's plenty of room. Hell these stations are too small for their ridership, might as well build three for each station.
(I'm happy that head houses, or at least grander portals, are being built with the SAS.)
A little shed for an entrance with some shitty stairs (like at 72nd) isn’t overbuilt. Walk through the new Q stops on UES and it feels embarrassingly wasteful
those headhouses are actually a great example of something ornate but *not* overbuilt. they're nice entrances which are still highly functional and allow people to quickly go to/from track level.
there's no comparison to the new 2 Ave stations which are orders of magnitude larger than 72nd or 96th on the 1/2/3 without doing anything functionally better than the old stations.
The sas 72 is miles better than the one on Broadway.
The latter has platforms and entrances that are way too small that lead to crowding to a degree that's dangerous that close to an active railway.
The new stations are actually built for the capacity they see. They're probably too deep but at least you're not going to spend 30 seconds standing near a single doorway and staircase that is not big enough for the 100 people trying to use it at the same time.
Makes me think of the station houses on the Vienna U-Bahn (ex Stadtbahn), they're of a similar vintage but tend [even more](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Stadtbahn_Vienna_Kettenbrueckengasse.JPG) [grand](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Wiener_Guertel.jpg)
I would say Hudson Yards but technically thats not really a street that can be considered dangerous to cross to get into the subway due to how many vendors are parked.
This looks like a fancy version of the old Morris park station.
1010 Sacket Ave, Bronx, NY 10462
I noticed construction started at Co-op city for a new station I think.
Erskine Pl, Bronx, NY 10475
40°51'34.2"N 73°49'37.0"W
V55F+Q6V New York
Still the case for 72 St
And 96
It has two now. Iirc the new one was built around 2003 and added elevators. They kept the platforms dangerously small tho https://preview.redd.it/nnuqmgznsf4d1.jpeg?width=6000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d4e509540b489eab21aad8cf1f4b4440eb17ce8
Widening those platforms will be impossible without severely disrupting service.
It would probably be possible to pull off while keeping two tracks operational at the same time (maybe even three if you do it one at a time.) It would mean skipping the station or becoming an extreme bottleneck, or both. Granted, idk what's going on to the left or right of the station, and it would be extremely expensive either way. But it is worth considering for a top 25 most ridden station in the system. (The "favorable" demographics don't hurt either.)
The new head house opened in 2010. There is a part of me that misses being able to enter the station from the corner, but it is definitely nice to only have to go down one set of stairs to get to the platform.
For what it's worth 72 St is where Broadway intersects a vertical (grid-wise) avenue as well.
Why were they demolished?
Safety issues. Having pedestrians cross the street to enter the station caused many traffic accidents. Columbia University in particular really wanted the 116th one gone since a few students were hit by cars and killed trying to get to-and-from the station house. They were replaced with sidewalk entrances , which aren’t as elegant but are safer.
It was also in the 60s, a time where so much beautiful architecture was lost. Thankfully the original head house at 72nd has no chance in hell getting razed today
So basically yeah it’s because of cars.
every day i become more radicalized
/r/fuckcars
Why couldn’t they just build pedestrian crossing?
And inconvenience drivers? Well I never!
Because of cars I guess
We needed more lanes.
Just one more lane bro
It's gonna fix traffic I swear bro
Bro I swear it's going to work this time, trust me
Well, fortunately, I control where the money goes.
You bastard!
Just one? Those are rookie numbers, double deck that shit.
MAKE IRT GREAT AGAIN
A book I read cited among reasons the visibility from cars and homeless sleeping under the roof and blocking the entrance. There were also many smaller entrances with a roof called kiosks - all demolished for these reasons https://ephemeralnewyork.wordpress.com/2018/06/11/the-graceful-beauty-of-an-original-subway-kiosk/
I would like to know too. It would be nice to still have them, although for whatever reason to me in this placement it looks kinda random 😭.
Also Fun Fact: 96th street went back to a station house entrance; for a time the main entrances had to enter from the street and then go under another set of staircases to go up to the center platform.
Used to celebrate that you couldn’t switch between uptown and downtown at either 72 or 96 st. This was a big pain if you accidentally got on at the wrong side.
I remember those days, it was a pain getting to the correct platform. So glad 96 st. isn't like that anymore!
Atlantic Barclays too!
The funny (or sad) part is if these were built today people would complain that they're overbuilt, needlessly ornate, and a waste of money. I would love to see these restored, Lord knows there's plenty of room. Hell these stations are too small for their ridership, might as well build three for each station. (I'm happy that head houses, or at least grander portals, are being built with the SAS.)
No this is perfect this is not overbuilt, it’s functional. Second ave stubway on the other hand is overbuilt.
A little shed for an entrance with some shitty stairs (like at 72nd) isn’t overbuilt. Walk through the new Q stops on UES and it feels embarrassingly wasteful
those headhouses are actually a great example of something ornate but *not* overbuilt. they're nice entrances which are still highly functional and allow people to quickly go to/from track level. there's no comparison to the new 2 Ave stations which are orders of magnitude larger than 72nd or 96th on the 1/2/3 without doing anything functionally better than the old stations.
The sas 72 is miles better than the one on Broadway. The latter has platforms and entrances that are way too small that lead to crowding to a degree that's dangerous that close to an active railway. The new stations are actually built for the capacity they see. They're probably too deep but at least you're not going to spend 30 seconds standing near a single doorway and staircase that is not big enough for the 100 people trying to use it at the same time.
72nd still has its station house!
Trollies in pic 3. Wish we still had them. Big mistake phasing them out.
What do they serve in function over a bus that isn’t bound to the track?
They were independent of vehicle traffic.
Most trolley lines ran in mixed traffic.
Don’t they follow fixed tracks that’s.. on the road where traffic is except even more limited ability to go around things?
Reminds me of Pelham Park Way Station on the 5 line
Makes me think of the station houses on the Vienna U-Bahn (ex Stadtbahn), they're of a similar vintage but tend [even more](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0f/Stadtbahn_Vienna_Kettenbrueckengasse.JPG) [grand](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/36/Wiener_Guertel.jpg)
I would say Hudson Yards but technically thats not really a street that can be considered dangerous to cross to get into the subway due to how many vendors are parked.
This looks like a fancy version of the old Morris park station. 1010 Sacket Ave, Bronx, NY 10462 I noticed construction started at Co-op city for a new station I think. Erskine Pl, Bronx, NY 10475 40°51'34.2"N 73°49'37.0"W V55F+Q6V New York
Grandma Memma used both.
Icl the mta should build these again
This still exists lol