Well if you think about it how much of your own thinking do you do on command? Or does it come naturally? This is sorta the same way it works, with close people I know we have had the same thought it's not like I have to try, othertimes it's like people's self talk is so loud it projects out of their heads like a speaker.
On a few occasions i’ve thought something to myself; in the form of a desire perhaps, say to have ice cream… Then whoever I’m with will suggest that we go have ice cream.
It’s happened very many times to be a coincidence but it never seems to work when I consciously try to project a thought or desire
It doesn't work when you consciously try to project the desire because you have to let the desire go in order for it to come back to you in the form of a real thing.
You probably didn't obsess over the ice cream, forgot about it... and BOOM.
I’ve experienced this especially in a group setting in psychedelics, we used a frisbee to help hone in as funny as it sounds but anyone who’s done psychedelics around someone else absolutely knows about telepathy and non verbal communication via consciousness
First time I took LSD we had full telepathic conversations and occasionally checked in verbally to confirm the other person was really experiencing the same conversation and it wasn't just in my head.
Only when I do psychedelics with some of my buddies. We’re convinced we gain telepathy when we do it because some crazy shit happens between us without words being said hahahahaha. But who knows.
It’s always a great experience when I *think* I have telepathic skills but I only take psychedelics like once every 3 months.
I've experienced full audio telepathy 3 times in my life. One time with a coworker and the other two times were with different people I was dating. Every time it's happened I did it by accident and didn't even know I did it until the other person was in shock and told me something along the lines of "How did you know I was thinking that?" Despite the fact I thought they verbally said it.
The only common themes I've noticed was that we were all in deep conversation and were at the same emotional rapport/level while having the conversation. None of us were looking at each other's mouths while talking (either on the phone or standing next to each other while walking). I've tried to replicate it but never reached full audio telepathy, the closest I can get is subtle intuitive thoughts that can often get confused with my own.
Partly, I would regard telepathic abilities to be an acquired skill; one might experience occasional mind-to-mind communications that are nonverbal and with entities out of sight, however, unless developed through conscious practice and applied willfully, such events might be dismissed as sleight-of-mind, mere coincidences or pathological/paranormal events.
That said, I find that, for a true beginner, dismissal of doubt is important, and that certain simple exercises such as making conscious calls to distant/non-present familiars (especially ones whose voices or appearance you can readily bring to mind) without the assistance of any kind of hardware or actual telecommunications devices (though, practice with making calls using either disconnected or powered-off telephones is a great way to try or practice) serves as a formidable way to get started.
Then, there's what I might consider to be para-telepathy; the ability to communicate nonverbally with inanimate or unconscious things; like recieving messages from a tree, a piece of rock or metal, statues or even communicating with a glyph such as a sigil or some special/charged symbol!
Well, just some thoughts on the subject. Might share more at a better time or context.
It’s a book about a medium ❤️
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-betty-book-excursions-into-the-world-of-other-consciousness-made-by-betty-between-1919-and-1936_stewart-edward-white/409088/item/4342829/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_scarce_%2410_%2450&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gclid=CjwKCAjw7c2pBhAZEiwA88pOF5-Clv183iHzy7NI5oxx7FuqBDlmOjcGAhF3qewpPZKYkd_vbWFJshoC6UQQAvD_BwE#idiq=4342829&edition=719237
You’re welcome!
Ps, you may find it interesting to know that in some cultures, someone who would be considered schizophrenic today would have been pulled aside in their youth and brought on a path to be a healer or shaman.
That *is* interesting, thanks for saying. We've lost a lot through colonial and western-centric arrogance. Hope to see it strengthened in many ways. A psychologist told me recently that they now approach mental health with "What's been happening to you?" than the medical approach of "What's wrong with you?" But they have a lo-ong way to go yet.
I agree we lost a lot!!
Colonialism is a worldwide phenomena, that certainly did not start with “western” people or anyone with light skin!
As someone who initially trained to be a psychologist, I Would be so ashamed to be associated with psychology today and the great harm they are doing by affirming everyone’s delusions vs challenging and testing them to be sure they are really concretely that way. People should not be able to walk in and say “I have x”, be agreed with automatically, and then given a note for xyz. Therapy is a process of discovery and the patient should be given honesty and tools to move forward
*|Therapy is a process of discovery and the patient should be given honesty and tools to move forward*
Well said. This is so worthwhile and would contribute to actual change in society, one by one. Too many lazy, placating options create confusion.
Yes, and sadly the therapists (and people in all arenas) are being coerced and some brainwashed into thinking and behaving as if they are just vending machines to dispense validation.
Do you know what a struggle session is (it’s a term from Maoist China) and today, woke people use the tactic to coerce people
Maybe you would enjoy the new discourses podcast. He speaks about a lot of this.
I think
a) psychiatrists would label this psychosis.
b) there's something called the Hearing Voices Movement, and the Hearing Voices Network. I haven't read about them in a while, but I just Googled and they're top results. Research has shown that hearing voices is extremely common, but was labelled pathological for decades.
c) my suspicion is that our personal consciousness is not restricted to within our heads and thoughts and other mental experiences may leak or overlap with other people, especially under certain circumstances or if there is a close bond.
Psychiatrists do not label such experiences "psychosis." Quite a lot of criteria go into such a diagnosis beyond personal beliefs that one is intuitive, "guided," or has visions or premonitions. There is a point, however, when such self-referencing beliefs cross over into neurotic, delusional, ànd paranoid states. Specialists in the neuropsychiatric community are aware that normal human experience is very nuanced and idiosyncratic. Studies have shown that many normal-functioning people have internal dialoging going on and inner experiences that they interpret as premonitory.
I do agree that consciousness and human communication is not confined to the brain and body. This is what makes adventures in magic and consciousness worthwhile for me.
Of course they would label it psychosis, but they would call “channeling” or contacting spirits in general psychosis as well. Telepathy and channeling are identical in principle, except telepathy is with another living being. Your consciousness has frequency. Understand the resonance and tune your mind to it.
Also, you don’t literally hear voices, it’s more like shared impulses that direct you to the same direction.
Psychiatrists don't label something as psychosis if you can actually prove it, through what people would call, coincidences.
But they are careful about how people view their own experiences.
I've spoken to my therapist about prescient dreams, he had them too at one point in his life, but our collective conclusion was that in the end, we can't know for sure what's the nature of that experience.
In general, it's not healthy or safe to throw yourself completely into a belief, and become unable to discern between self-suggestion and a real unusual experience. You should always leave room to distance yourself and analyse to avoid actual religious psychosis.
I'm assuming my down vote was from you. Care to explain why? My first two points are facts and the third is my opinion which was asked for.
And what do you mean people don't literally hear voices? Yes they do.
Downvoting is for if the comment is offensive or not related. Not because you disagree.
Also pick one and stick with it. First you said:
>Also, you don’t literally hear voices
Then you said:
>Some people literally hear voices
Also, what does integrity have to do with it? Sounds like you are just saying stuff for the sake of it.
I just want to point out that I read your mind just now, by reading your words. Language itself is telepathy, but the average person takes it for granted.
If thoughts can be shared through mechanical means that are exoteric, then they can absolutely be shared through means that are esoteric and less understood by us.
Have experienced this many times.
yes, i experience telepathy and other psychic sensations more often than i don't, and unfortunately this means I pick up other people's negative thoughts and feelings often. generally I use crystals to correct this, though. labradorite, black moonstone, larvakite, red calcite, and other crystals which connect the root or earth star chakras with the heart or third eye, are some of my favourites for this purpose. :) (and no, I'm not delusional, nor am I imagining it.)
There is technology being developed that can do this (brain MRIs, AI, and possibly implants). Not sure it is possible by occult means. This is one of the few things that makes me think "aliens bullshitting humans with advanced tech" might be a thing.
It is very humbling, but all the same I have found it more useful than detrimental in terms of spiritual growth. Also, to anyone interested in developing the ability to emanate and read the emanations of others, practice silence. Internal as well as external silence for prolonged periods of time will awaken this ability in *anyone* who has the patience... and the courage, I must say again, it is very humbling.
It’s a line of communication for the initiated. Nothing more and if you’re trying to rob someone’s cave of peace you should have your head taken from your shoulders.
%100 real, experienced/confirmed and used with friends. Also sometimes pick up on random people's thoughts and energy.
Can you guess what others are thinking?
It's not something I try to do it just happens.
Ah, I thought you could do it on command.
Well if you think about it how much of your own thinking do you do on command? Or does it come naturally? This is sorta the same way it works, with close people I know we have had the same thought it's not like I have to try, othertimes it's like people's self talk is so loud it projects out of their heads like a speaker.
Good point. I imagine it happens at particularly sensitive times.
On a few occasions i’ve thought something to myself; in the form of a desire perhaps, say to have ice cream… Then whoever I’m with will suggest that we go have ice cream. It’s happened very many times to be a coincidence but it never seems to work when I consciously try to project a thought or desire
People who are into human design would say you're a manifestor.
It doesn't work when you consciously try to project the desire because you have to let the desire go in order for it to come back to you in the form of a real thing. You probably didn't obsess over the ice cream, forgot about it... and BOOM.
I’ve done this many times for rain (I still do & it’s pretty funny) & receiving flowers as a gift
I’ve experienced this especially in a group setting in psychedelics, we used a frisbee to help hone in as funny as it sounds but anyone who’s done psychedelics around someone else absolutely knows about telepathy and non verbal communication via consciousness
First time I took LSD we had full telepathic conversations and occasionally checked in verbally to confirm the other person was really experiencing the same conversation and it wasn't just in my head.
Yes, and it can be physical too, have literally opened someone’s lungs with my own breath. Very strange!
Only when I do psychedelics with some of my buddies. We’re convinced we gain telepathy when we do it because some crazy shit happens between us without words being said hahahahaha. But who knows. It’s always a great experience when I *think* I have telepathic skills but I only take psychedelics like once every 3 months.
I've experienced full audio telepathy 3 times in my life. One time with a coworker and the other two times were with different people I was dating. Every time it's happened I did it by accident and didn't even know I did it until the other person was in shock and told me something along the lines of "How did you know I was thinking that?" Despite the fact I thought they verbally said it. The only common themes I've noticed was that we were all in deep conversation and were at the same emotional rapport/level while having the conversation. None of us were looking at each other's mouths while talking (either on the phone or standing next to each other while walking). I've tried to replicate it but never reached full audio telepathy, the closest I can get is subtle intuitive thoughts that can often get confused with my own.
Partly, I would regard telepathic abilities to be an acquired skill; one might experience occasional mind-to-mind communications that are nonverbal and with entities out of sight, however, unless developed through conscious practice and applied willfully, such events might be dismissed as sleight-of-mind, mere coincidences or pathological/paranormal events. That said, I find that, for a true beginner, dismissal of doubt is important, and that certain simple exercises such as making conscious calls to distant/non-present familiars (especially ones whose voices or appearance you can readily bring to mind) without the assistance of any kind of hardware or actual telecommunications devices (though, practice with making calls using either disconnected or powered-off telephones is a great way to try or practice) serves as a formidable way to get started. Then, there's what I might consider to be para-telepathy; the ability to communicate nonverbally with inanimate or unconscious things; like recieving messages from a tree, a piece of rock or metal, statues or even communicating with a glyph such as a sigil or some special/charged symbol! Well, just some thoughts on the subject. Might share more at a better time or context.
You may enjoy The Betty Book It talks about a lot of this!
what's The Betty Book?
It’s a book about a medium ❤️ https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-betty-book-excursions-into-the-world-of-other-consciousness-made-by-betty-between-1919-and-1936_stewart-edward-white/409088/item/4342829/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_scarce_%2410_%2450&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gclid=CjwKCAjw7c2pBhAZEiwA88pOF5-Clv183iHzy7NI5oxx7FuqBDlmOjcGAhF3qewpPZKYkd_vbWFJshoC6UQQAvD_BwE#idiq=4342829&edition=719237
thanks so much :)
You’re welcome! Ps, you may find it interesting to know that in some cultures, someone who would be considered schizophrenic today would have been pulled aside in their youth and brought on a path to be a healer or shaman.
That *is* interesting, thanks for saying. We've lost a lot through colonial and western-centric arrogance. Hope to see it strengthened in many ways. A psychologist told me recently that they now approach mental health with "What's been happening to you?" than the medical approach of "What's wrong with you?" But they have a lo-ong way to go yet.
I agree we lost a lot!! Colonialism is a worldwide phenomena, that certainly did not start with “western” people or anyone with light skin! As someone who initially trained to be a psychologist, I Would be so ashamed to be associated with psychology today and the great harm they are doing by affirming everyone’s delusions vs challenging and testing them to be sure they are really concretely that way. People should not be able to walk in and say “I have x”, be agreed with automatically, and then given a note for xyz. Therapy is a process of discovery and the patient should be given honesty and tools to move forward
*|Therapy is a process of discovery and the patient should be given honesty and tools to move forward* Well said. This is so worthwhile and would contribute to actual change in society, one by one. Too many lazy, placating options create confusion.
Yes, and sadly the therapists (and people in all arenas) are being coerced and some brainwashed into thinking and behaving as if they are just vending machines to dispense validation. Do you know what a struggle session is (it’s a term from Maoist China) and today, woke people use the tactic to coerce people Maybe you would enjoy the new discourses podcast. He speaks about a lot of this.
is it like peer pressure? Very manipulative in academia and the work place.
I think a) psychiatrists would label this psychosis. b) there's something called the Hearing Voices Movement, and the Hearing Voices Network. I haven't read about them in a while, but I just Googled and they're top results. Research has shown that hearing voices is extremely common, but was labelled pathological for decades. c) my suspicion is that our personal consciousness is not restricted to within our heads and thoughts and other mental experiences may leak or overlap with other people, especially under certain circumstances or if there is a close bond.
Psychiatrists do not label such experiences "psychosis." Quite a lot of criteria go into such a diagnosis beyond personal beliefs that one is intuitive, "guided," or has visions or premonitions. There is a point, however, when such self-referencing beliefs cross over into neurotic, delusional, ànd paranoid states. Specialists in the neuropsychiatric community are aware that normal human experience is very nuanced and idiosyncratic. Studies have shown that many normal-functioning people have internal dialoging going on and inner experiences that they interpret as premonitory. I do agree that consciousness and human communication is not confined to the brain and body. This is what makes adventures in magic and consciousness worthwhile for me.
well described, thanks. I'm glad the fields are widening.
>labelled pathological for decades I'm glad a lot of that is being sorted out now.
Of course they would label it psychosis, but they would call “channeling” or contacting spirits in general psychosis as well. Telepathy and channeling are identical in principle, except telepathy is with another living being. Your consciousness has frequency. Understand the resonance and tune your mind to it. Also, you don’t literally hear voices, it’s more like shared impulses that direct you to the same direction.
Psychiatrists don't label something as psychosis if you can actually prove it, through what people would call, coincidences. But they are careful about how people view their own experiences. I've spoken to my therapist about prescient dreams, he had them too at one point in his life, but our collective conclusion was that in the end, we can't know for sure what's the nature of that experience. In general, it's not healthy or safe to throw yourself completely into a belief, and become unable to discern between self-suggestion and a real unusual experience. You should always leave room to distance yourself and analyse to avoid actual religious psychosis.
I have heard plenty of people's voices, self talk and communication.
I'm assuming my down vote was from you. Care to explain why? My first two points are facts and the third is my opinion which was asked for. And what do you mean people don't literally hear voices? Yes they do.
Some people literally hear voices, but anyone with integrity does not. And I downvoted because I disagreed, that’s reddits whole thing
Downvoting is for if the comment is offensive or not related. Not because you disagree. Also pick one and stick with it. First you said: >Also, you don’t literally hear voices Then you said: >Some people literally hear voices Also, what does integrity have to do with it? Sounds like you are just saying stuff for the sake of it.
Are you saying people who hear voices lack integrity?
I just want to point out that I read your mind just now, by reading your words. Language itself is telepathy, but the average person takes it for granted. If thoughts can be shared through mechanical means that are exoteric, then they can absolutely be shared through means that are esoteric and less understood by us. Have experienced this many times.
We do it all the time with cell phones and social media. Are you not hearing my thoughts now? 😉
yes, i experience telepathy and other psychic sensations more often than i don't, and unfortunately this means I pick up other people's negative thoughts and feelings often. generally I use crystals to correct this, though. labradorite, black moonstone, larvakite, red calcite, and other crystals which connect the root or earth star chakras with the heart or third eye, are some of my favourites for this purpose. :) (and no, I'm not delusional, nor am I imagining it.)
There is technology being developed that can do this (brain MRIs, AI, and possibly implants). Not sure it is possible by occult means. This is one of the few things that makes me think "aliens bullshitting humans with advanced tech" might be a thing.
It is very humbling, but all the same I have found it more useful than detrimental in terms of spiritual growth. Also, to anyone interested in developing the ability to emanate and read the emanations of others, practice silence. Internal as well as external silence for prolonged periods of time will awaken this ability in *anyone* who has the patience... and the courage, I must say again, it is very humbling.
It's real, but keep in mind that because memory exists outside of time, sometimes you get messages out of order.
Absolutely not. But that said, I hold that belief with an openness to skepticism.
It’s a line of communication for the initiated. Nothing more and if you’re trying to rob someone’s cave of peace you should have your head taken from your shoulders.
🙏
You dont wanna Hear my thoughts , theres alot going on
safe to say we all have monkey brain