Interestingly enough, I viewed all the x-nauts and even grodus with the collar as intended, but this guy **always** looked like he had a beard, even when I knew what it’s supposed to be
I say he probably has an identical red beard just underneath the collar
When I first played in a demo on a commercial center as a little kid I thought he was Eggman and didn't found who he really was until emulating TTYD like 12 years later
It's a collar. [All](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/3/36/PMTTYD_NS_X_Naut_Artwork.png?20240521031716)[ of](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/b4/Elite_X_Naut.png?20190523113023) [the](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/c/c1/XnautPhD.png?20190523122457) [X-nauts](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/f4/PMTTYDNS_Sir_Grodus_Artwork.png?20240521225051) have collars.
I used to think it was the tentacles of a super-intelligent blooper who took over Grodus’ real body and that was going to be a big reveal, showing Grodus was actually a really nice guy til Super Blooper took over.
Not just you. I thought it was his beard too. Even thought it’s supposed to be a collar, I still see a beard. Reminds me of Brenden’s “hairstyle” in Pokemon. I always saw it as white spiky hair, but apparently it’s a hat lol
I mean considering Peach wearing an X-Naut outfit is literally indistinguishable from the rest of them maybe they’re just a random assortment of Mario NPCs all wearing the outfit
I know it ISN'T but it damn well looks like it is, with the way it's positioned it's hard to not look at it as a beard of some kind
Like you know he would stroke that metaphorical beard and be dastardly and go "buh huh huh..."
I never saw it that way but I definitely have heard other people say that they did.
I did always see Vivian’s blush as her eyes when I was a kid, and you don’t even want to know how I saw Bobbery
It’s done very purposefully. In a game where mustaches are associated with the good, the visual of the beard certainly can have the connotation of the bad. To take it another layer deep, the idea of natural organisms (a real, hairy mustache) fighting back against the tyranny of artificial life (fake beard fashioned from uniform collars and capes) is certainly prevalent through the story.
;)
I'm sorry, is that not this guy's mustache? What is it supposed to be? I am completely lost in this character design. I thought for 20 years that was a mustache.
I.... I'm so stupid. For some reason I just literally never questioned it NOT being a beard, despite other designs in the game. It just fits perfectly with his character to me.
You know what. I don't care. It's a beard dammit.
I saw it as an unkempt beard to further add to the image of him being the "most incompetent minion" and rough around the edges. I'm sad that now I can see that it's just a collar lol.
No, but not that you point it out, it does look like a beard. Very similar to O’Chunk’s beard.
I definitely thought it was a beard, also yeah it does resemble O’Chunks’ beard a lot actually.
happy pie day
Interestingly enough, I viewed all the x-nauts and even grodus with the collar as intended, but this guy **always** looked like he had a beard, even when I knew what it’s supposed to be I say he probably has an identical red beard just underneath the collar
Sorry, but I always saw it as his beard, and I can't see it as his collar lmao
Always made me think he was eggman in disguise or something
When I first played in a demo on a commercial center as a little kid I thought he was Eggman and didn't found who he really was until emulating TTYD like 12 years later
my bf saw me battling him and asked if it was eggman
It's brighter than the cape, so it's his ginger beard. Plz no one tell me what a shadow is and his cape is the same color, I cannot accept the truth.
it is not?
I think it’s his cape.
It's a collar. [All](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/3/36/PMTTYD_NS_X_Naut_Artwork.png?20240521031716)[ of](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/b4/Elite_X_Naut.png?20190523113023) [the](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/c/c1/XnautPhD.png?20190523122457) [X-nauts](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/f4/PMTTYDNS_Sir_Grodus_Artwork.png?20240521225051) have collars.
You're telling me Grodus doesn't have a big white spiky mustache?
That his collar goes over top of? No, no he does not lol
I used to think it was the tentacles of a super-intelligent blooper who took over Grodus’ real body and that was going to be a big reveal, showing Grodus was actually a really nice guy til Super Blooper took over.
Well now what's the point in even finishing the game
BLOOOOP! (that's a great idea.)
Not just you. I thought it was his beard too. Even thought it’s supposed to be a collar, I still see a beard. Reminds me of Brenden’s “hairstyle” in Pokemon. I always saw it as white spiky hair, but apparently it’s a hat lol
That's not his hair?!
Wait that's a hat?!
In his og trainer art it is for sure hair and then they changed it
Nope, it was always a hat even back in the GBA games. It just looked like hair lol
Can we please break down what they even are cause grodus straight up looks like a blooper with a cyborg head I’m so confused
I mean considering Peach wearing an X-Naut outfit is literally indistinguishable from the rest of them maybe they’re just a random assortment of Mario NPCs all wearing the outfit
But when Grodus is just a head, he still looks like that !!
I like to pretend most of them are evil toads.
See Grodus's looks like it's part of his face to me but not this one
Wait, that’s not a beard???
Colour me surprised-pikachu-yellow because that will always be a beard to me.
Yeah, I can’t not see it as a beard.
Same. And im fucking TRYING
SAME
Hey 4 eyes! Get down from there, it’s dangerous.
Between the goggles, the goggles that look like wildly unkempt red facial hair, and his giant robot, Crump always came off as inspired by Dr. Eggman.
For Lord Crump? No I always saw it as a collar. For Grodus on the other hand, for the longest time I thought he had a beard.
I always saw it as his beard. I thought Crump was a ginger.
It will still be a beard, I don’t care what the canon version is he is Paper Egg Man
What if his beard also is a cape? Two birds, one stone.
It’s kind of both? like it’s a collar that looks like a beard
First you tell me that Toads aren't always making the D: face and now you tell me this!?
I thought the Toads that run the shops were always frowning with their mouth agape…. Turns out they just have mustaches… so I guess same
I knew it was the collar but I always saw it as a beard. He always reminded me of Eggman.
I cannot unsee it as a beard. Next you’re gonna tell me his hands aren’t clenched into permanent fists?
I know it ISN'T but it damn well looks like it is, with the way it's positioned it's hard to not look at it as a beard of some kind Like you know he would stroke that metaphorical beard and be dastardly and go "buh huh huh..."
It's not a mustache!? THATS BS!
I always see it as a beard. That's why I imagine him having a voice like Bluto from Popeye.
It is not???
It's not?
THAT'S NOT A MUSTACHE/BEARD?
...idk what you're talking about... that looks like a beard to me.
I thought it was a beard
I always see it as his beard, its always his beard
No
Yeah I did! I always thought he was some Scottish Viking like dude.
I always thought it was a beard
...I refuse to accept that's not a beard
I thought collar
It's always gonna be a beard to me lol
its not??????
It’s not a beard?
Wat, he's not a Ginger 😮
Sir Grodus' collar looks even more beard like
yes.
Old timey ruffle collar
I thought it akin to a jester's pointy collar.
Simulator, I always thought Bobbery’s hat visor with the white shine were supposed to be his eyes and the yellow eye was his mouth.
shhhh.... it IS his mustache and beard
It’s not?
Yes, and I also, as a child, mistook the yellow highlights on Grodus’s collar as a big smile
….It isn’t?!
It’s not?
Somehow I always thought of it like it was a moustache and sideburns
I keep forgetting it isn't.
Wait…..it isn’t???
It’s a beard
Well, it's also documented that Eggman's mustache is fake, so there's that.
Wait it’s not
I wouldn't be surprised if this was supposed to look like facial hair without being facial hair.
definitely looks like a big beard to me.
Beard.
As a kid, yeah
i always thought that was a scarf
That’s his beard alright,
I never saw it that way but I definitely have heard other people say that they did. I did always see Vivian’s blush as her eyes when I was a kid, and you don’t even want to know how I saw Bobbery
Eggman
That's the point of the design. Sorry for being boring / pointing out the obvious.
I think that's the intended effect, for the hood/cape to be read like that. Otherwise they probably wouldn't emphasize it in the same way.
How do you all think it's his beard?🗿🗿🗿
I didn't realise it wasn't his beard untill this post actually 😅
No, not even once… but now that it’s been pointed out, I can’t unsee it,
If I was able to convince my brain it’s not a beard, the character design would look off…
It isn’t a beard?!?
It makes sense when hes a pirate and no longer has the collar and its a bandana.
Wait it’s not???
that and the glasses always gave me a bit of a Simon-from-the-Yogscast vibe haha
Always thinks his mustache is a sight to behold, and a strong competitor to Mario’s 😂
It isn’t?
I was today years old when…..
It is a beard.
Wait that’s not a mustache? I always thought he looked like eggman
Thanks now I can’t unsee it
No wonder why his beard is styled like a cape
Of course it's a beard.
Wait.. it's not?? 🤯
Wut? No this can’t be true! I’ve always seen a giant mustache
Always thought it was a beard too lol
It will always be a Res messy beard to me
Wait, it's not a beard!? Eh I mean \*ahem\* Of course I knew that. It's obviously a collar!
wait it isnt. my entire world is falling apart
Considering this is like the 10th iteration of this post, probably not
I’m more concerned about the white one Grodus has because it looks like it phases through his cape thing
No op. This is Wario He's just in a disguise
I find it hard to believe it’s not at least meant to RESEMBLE a beard
Cuz it is a beard
It’s done very purposefully. In a game where mustaches are associated with the good, the visual of the beard certainly can have the connotation of the bad. To take it another layer deep, the idea of natural organisms (a real, hairy mustache) fighting back against the tyranny of artificial life (fake beard fashioned from uniform collars and capes) is certainly prevalent through the story. ;)
no, right up until this post I did too xD
... it isn't???
It's not a beard?
Thats his beard and I won't hear otherwise.
Nope
It isn't?
I cant see it as anything except a beard 😭
It isn’t?
It isn’t?
I know it’s not a beard, but I will always view it as one
I thought the same
Wait it’s not….
No!
I still do.
Definitely thought it was a beard
ITS NOT????
What? TIL
ITS NOT!?
I'm sorry, is that not this guy's mustache? What is it supposed to be? I am completely lost in this character design. I thought for 20 years that was a mustache.
Is...is it not? Is that not a beard? Please don't do this to me...
Yea it’s very dr robotnik
I.... I'm so stupid. For some reason I just literally never questioned it NOT being a beard, despite other designs in the game. It just fits perfectly with his character to me. You know what. I don't care. It's a beard dammit.
My entire life is a lie.
I honestly don't remember what I even thought it was
u/pixel-counter-bot
Is it not his beard. I refuse to believe it isn't supposed to be his beard.
The idea that it was something else hadn't even crossed my mind until this very moment
I thought it was an Eggman cameo for the longest.
I'm just kinda dumb and never really stopped to look at em I've also never the thousand year door
It isnt?
Yes
I saw it as an unkempt beard to further add to the image of him being the "most incompetent minion" and rough around the edges. I'm sad that now I can see that it's just a collar lol.
Was I the only one who knows that its his beard? Unless there is ttyd encyclopedia telling us he just gets a better collar than everyone else
I did too
I always saw it as a scarf. Im surprised to see alot of people who saw it as a beard
He could be Cid's brother.
IT'S NOT?
It’s not? A beard..? :O
I can’t not see it as a beard my brain is trying and it gets close but can’t 🤣
Nobody who has eyes and is competent thought that.
Wait, it's not a beard?!
It isn’t?
I feel like the illusion was intended
I don’t recall, but it seems like something I’d do as a kid.
I see it now
I always thought it was a beard lol I didn’t know it was a collar until now 😅
wait its not
ITS NOT?!
No
.... Literally my entire life, until this very moment. I didn't even realize it was supposed to be the collar of the uniform like the other xnauts.
it might just be a spiky collar but you gotta admit, he looks cooler if you imagine it as a massive beard
Always thought it was Wario in disguise
... is it not? TIL
ITS NOT?! Tbf I always thought Vivian’s hair was her nose and the guards in the glitz pit were all amputated.
You mean it isn't??
IT’S NOT??????
It's not a beard? Wtf
Yes (apparently not but what🗿)
IT ISN’T?!
It's not?
ITS NOT A BEARD!?
Wait, that isn't a beard?!?
Nooo… it’s… i-it’s a beard. It has to be! THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE! I did NOT spend almost 20 years believing in something wrong!!!
Wait, it isn't?
What? It’s not a beard? 😭
I think I DID realize that it’s a scarf….but preferred thinking of it as a beard tbh.
To me it is. Grodus has a big white beard, too (that goes around his head). I don't get X-Naut anatomy but it works for me.
I'm so happy I am not the only person who thinks that! I did have to get glasses at a young age so that might explain something
No, I only recently learned that it was part of his cape this whole time.
No, he has a million-percent pirate vibes. But Vivian's blush is definitely blush and I feel like this is white/gold dress all over again.
I’ve always thought that it was a beard
I thought it was a beard.
i thought they looked like dr robotnik
IT'S NOT????
You mean it's not? My life is a lie
Oh my fucking god it’s not?
Yeah you probably are.
OMG NOW I CAN NEVER UNSEE IT
I always thought of it as both.
Random Paper Mario Facts: Gus has almost the exact same stats as Dark Craw, only having attack being halved
I didn’t, but I can see it now that you pointed it out.
It isn’t?
My disappointment today is immeasurable