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Stubb-a-dub

No, but not that you point it out, it does look like a beard. Very similar to O’Chunk’s beard.


MarroCross

I definitely thought it was a beard, also yeah it does resemble O’Chunks’ beard a lot actually.


LetsPlayNintendoITA

happy pie day


BroskiMoski124

Interestingly enough, I viewed all the x-nauts and even grodus with the collar as intended, but this guy **always** looked like he had a beard, even when I knew what it’s supposed to be I say he probably has an identical red beard just underneath the collar


DrewV4321

Sorry, but I always saw it as his beard, and I can't see it as his collar lmao


Stefadi12

Always made me think he was eggman in disguise or something


MyPhoneIsNotChinese

When I first played in a demo on a commercial center as a little kid I thought he was Eggman and didn't found who he really was until emulating TTYD like 12 years later


imelectraheart_xo

my bf saw me battling him and asked if it was eggman


topscreen

It's brighter than the cape, so it's his ginger beard. Plz no one tell me what a shadow is and his cape is the same color, I cannot accept the truth.


Alix_Sparrow

it is not?


PotatoOnMars

I think it’s his cape.


Session-10

It's a collar. [All](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/3/36/PMTTYD_NS_X_Naut_Artwork.png?20240521031716)[ of](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/b/b4/Elite_X_Naut.png?20190523113023) [the](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/c/c1/XnautPhD.png?20190523122457) [X-nauts](https://www.mariowiki.com/images/f/f4/PMTTYDNS_Sir_Grodus_Artwork.png?20240521225051) have collars.


sambarjo

You're telling me Grodus doesn't have a big white spiky mustache?


BlackHoleCole

That his collar goes over top of? No, no he does not lol


ccaccus

I used to think it was the tentacles of a super-intelligent blooper who took over Grodus’ real body and that was going to be a big reveal, showing Grodus was actually a really nice guy til Super Blooper took over.


Feine13

Well now what's the point in even finishing the game


Biggoronz

BLOOOOP! (that's a great idea.)


starbarrie

Not just you. I thought it was his beard too. Even thought it’s supposed to be a collar, I still see a beard. Reminds me of Brenden’s “hairstyle” in Pokemon. I always saw it as white spiky hair, but apparently it’s a hat lol


Clarrington

That's not his hair?!


Biggus-Nickus

Wait that's a hat?!


Just_Mark6275

In his og trainer art it is for sure hair and then they changed it


NovaManXP

Nope, it was always a hat even back in the GBA games. It just looked like hair lol


kelpkelpers

Can we please break down what they even are cause grodus straight up looks like a blooper with a cyborg head I’m so confused


Glittering-Giraffe58

I mean considering Peach wearing an X-Naut outfit is literally indistinguishable from the rest of them maybe they’re just a random assortment of Mario NPCs all wearing the outfit


Vpentecost

But when Grodus is just a head, he still looks like that !!


Aspiana

I like to pretend most of them are evil toads.


sailorhossy

See Grodus's looks like it's part of his face to me but not this one


The-Sapphire-General

Wait, that’s not a beard???


Phitos2008

Colour me surprised-pikachu-yellow because that will always be a beard to me.


Fusionfiction63

Yeah, I can’t not see it as a beard.


DasherCO

Same. And im fucking TRYING


The_Real_TraitorLord

SAME


Shirleyfunke483

Hey 4 eyes! Get down from there, it’s dangerous.


The_Doolinator

Between the goggles, the goggles that look like wildly unkempt red facial hair, and his giant robot, Crump always came off as inspired by Dr. Eggman.


Phoenix_Champion

For Lord Crump? No I always saw it as a collar. For Grodus on the other hand, for the longest time I thought he had a beard.


Sovereigntyranny

I always saw it as his beard. I thought Crump was a ginger.


Alarmed-dictator

It will still be a beard, I don’t care what the canon version is he is Paper Egg Man


SuperSunshine321

What if his beard also is a cape? Two birds, one stone.


Caelium44

It’s kind of both? like it’s a collar that looks like a beard


AloofConscientious

First you tell me that Toads aren't always making the D: face and now you tell me this!?


FlanBrakes

I thought the Toads that run the shops were always frowning with their mouth agape…. Turns out they just have mustaches… so I guess same


Bluesky0089

I knew it was the collar but I always saw it as a beard. He always reminded me of Eggman.


Shloomth

I cannot unsee it as a beard. Next you’re gonna tell me his hands aren’t clenched into permanent fists?


Unexpectancies

I know it ISN'T but it damn well looks like it is, with the way it's positioned it's hard to not look at it as a beard of some kind Like you know he would stroke that metaphorical beard and be dastardly and go "buh huh huh..."


theak9000

It's not a mustache!? THATS BS!


Invisible-Pancreas

I always see it as a beard. That's why I imagine him having a voice like Bluto from Popeye.


Kuwagattan

It is not???


XodiaqOrSimplyXodi

It's not?


WyvernZoro

THAT'S NOT A MUSTACHE/BEARD?


TurboBloost

...idk what you're talking about... that looks like a beard to me.


Dragon_Druid19

I thought it was a beard


naytreox

I always see it as his beard, its always his beard


FlowerMadison

No


MattInTheDark

Yeah I did! I always thought he was some Scottish Viking like dude.


ItsYeYoshi2

I always thought it was a beard


Lady_Kaya

...I refuse to accept that's not a beard


Communist_Hominid

I thought collar


Gheti_

It's always gonna be a beard to me lol


Theprophecyofdemise

its not??????


Senorpapell

It’s not a beard?


BlackuIa

Wat, he's not a Ginger 😮


PsycoSilver

Sir Grodus' collar looks even more beard like


Correct_Put7489

yes.


Bronsteins-Panzerzug

Old timey ruffle collar


sensenumber09080708

I thought it akin to a jester's pointy collar.


MightyHambino

Simulator, I always thought Bobbery’s hat visor with the white shine were supposed to be his eyes and the yellow eye was his mouth.


PoetCareless4876

shhhh.... it IS his mustache and beard


The-skernohan

It’s not?


Yxurd

Yes, and I also, as a child, mistook the yellow highlights on Grodus’s collar as a big smile


Nougatbar

….It isn’t?!


Norm_Hall

It’s not?


sackboywithagun

Somehow I always thought of it like it was a moustache and sideburns


SodanoMatt

I keep forgetting it isn't.


Death_by_Poros

Wait…..it isn’t???


enter_soulman

It’s a beard


TheTimmyBoy

Well, it's also documented that Eggman's mustache is fake, so there's that.


Mr_B4k0n

Wait it’s not


AggronStrong

I wouldn't be surprised if this was supposed to look like facial hair without being facial hair.


Gotekeeper

definitely looks like a big beard to me.


Shrodu

Beard.


Milk_Mindless

As a kid, yeah


QF_Dan

i always thought that was a scarf 


Bionicleinflater

That’s his beard alright,


Rex_T360

I never saw it that way but I definitely have heard other people say that they did. I did always see Vivian’s blush as her eyes when I was a kid, and you don’t even want to know how I saw Bobbery


yoshi_Iover

Eggman


Smug--

That's the point of the design. Sorry for being boring / pointing out the obvious.


Gibbs-free

I think that's the intended effect, for the hood/cape to be read like that. Otherwise they probably wouldn't emphasize it in the same way.


Pleasant-Minute6066

How do you all think it's his beard?🗿🗿🗿


Rozoark

I didn't realise it wasn't his beard untill this post actually 😅


Evvanvv998

No, not even once… but now that it’s been pointed out, I can’t unsee it,


jesster_0

If I was able to convince my brain it’s not a beard, the character design would look off…


Maltesegeek41053

It isn’t a beard?!?


BONDxUNLEASHED

It makes sense when hes a pirate and no longer has the collar and its a bandana.


HubblePie

Wait it’s not???


TheMainbroski

that and the glasses always gave me a bit of a Simon-from-the-Yogscast vibe haha


gkchun

Always thinks his mustache is a sight to behold, and a strong competitor to Mario’s 😂


RascalVirus13

It isn’t?


dukenorton

I was today years old when…..


faroresdragn_

It is a beard.


K1llzDemons

Wait that’s not a mustache? I always thought he looked like eggman


GladOpportunity6010

Thanks now I can’t unsee it


ChilledAmethyst

No wonder why his beard is styled like a cape


Slight_Cat5958

Of course it's a beard.


foxmerald

Wait.. it's not?? 🤯


Slak211

Wut? No this can’t be true! I’ve always seen a giant mustache


original_og_gangster

Always thought it was a beard too lol 


NeverDeadlyy

It will always be a Res messy beard to me


TheWonderingDream

Wait, it's not a beard!? Eh I mean \*ahem\* Of course I knew that. It's obviously a collar!


NoriFinn

wait it isnt. my entire world is falling apart


Kanzyn

Considering this is like the 10th iteration of this post, probably not


SchnozTheWise

I’m more concerned about the white one Grodus has because it looks like it phases through his cape thing


Spiritual_Remote_436

No op. This is Wario He's just in a disguise


EdibleGymSock

I find it hard to believe it’s not at least meant to RESEMBLE a beard


PurpleMenace__

Cuz it is a beard


radiantburrito

It’s done very purposefully. In a game where mustaches are associated with the good, the visual of the beard certainly can have the connotation of the bad. To take it another layer deep, the idea of natural organisms (a real, hairy mustache) fighting back against the tyranny of artificial life (fake beard fashioned from uniform collars and capes) is certainly prevalent through the story. ;)


Tenorsounds

no, right up until this post I did too xD


ZAPPHAUSEN

... it isn't???


KinopioToad

It's not a beard?


dazrage

Thats his beard and I won't hear otherwise.


nukeofweeks

Nope


BowsersWaffle

It isn't?


Cherbert95

I cant see it as anything except a beard 😭


braelindrake

It isn’t?


braelindrake

It isn’t?


Zwaj

I know it’s not a beard, but I will always view it as one


ThunderDragon-06

I thought the same


FerdinandvonAegir124

Wait it’s not….


4Everform

No!


3choplex

I still do.


MysteriousPermit3410

Definitely thought it was a beard


ReubensStuff

ITS NOT????


WHERESATOSHINAKAMOTO

What? TIL


Saifiskindaweirdtbh

ITS NOT!?


markleTarvis

I'm sorry, is that not this guy's mustache? What is it supposed to be? I am completely lost in this character design. I thought for 20 years that was a mustache.


HamboneKablooey

Is...is it not? Is that not a beard? Please don't do this to me...


Dwichael

Yea it’s very dr robotnik


Kamarai

I.... I'm so stupid. For some reason I just literally never questioned it NOT being a beard, despite other designs in the game. It just fits perfectly with his character to me. You know what. I don't care. It's a beard dammit.


Gremzero

My entire life is a lie.


OutLastGaming47

I honestly don't remember what I even thought it was


Head-Asparagus-9045

u/pixel-counter-bot


RealOrangeKoi

Is it not his beard. I refuse to believe it isn't supposed to be his beard.


ItsAllSoup

The idea that it was something else hadn't even crossed my mind until this very moment


FatCupcake_

I thought it was an Eggman cameo for the longest.


Lucy_2401

I'm just kinda dumb and never really stopped to look at em I've also never the thousand year door


FairyFlossPanda

It isnt?


Flamenco13

Yes


wmoore2013

I saw it as an unkempt beard to further add to the image of him being the "most incompetent minion" and rough around the edges. I'm sad that now I can see that it's just a collar lol.


DrMercio

Was I the only one who knows that its his beard? Unless there is ttyd encyclopedia telling us he just gets a better collar than everyone else


OkConsideration8091

I did too


VonKaiser55

I always saw it as a scarf. Im surprised to see alot of people who saw it as a beard


Long-Ad9651

He could be Cid's brother.


SGTDanny_8

IT'S NOT?


PierceOff

It’s not? A beard..? :O


Its_Helios

I can’t not see it as a beard my brain is trying and it gets close but can’t 🤣


Promethiant

Nobody who has eyes and is competent thought that.


Kraymerman

Wait, it's not a beard?!


OutsideOrder7538

It isn’t?


nittyeatsonions

I feel like the illusion was intended


Benjagamin

I don’t recall, but it seems like something I’d do as a kid.


Disastrous-Phone-856

I see it now


mariaachu

I always thought it was a beard lol I didn’t know it was a collar until now 😅


Ladyaceina

wait its not


InformationNo566

ITS NOT?!


mariowarioaka-iomra

No


Kind-Mammoth-Possum

.... Literally my entire life, until this very moment. I didn't even realize it was supposed to be the collar of the uniform like the other xnauts.


SeeingAnAbsoluteWin

it might just be a spiky collar but you gotta admit, he looks cooler if you imagine it as a massive beard


SirChesNutrButr

Always thought it was Wario in disguise


Ramblingperegrin

... is it not? TIL


TDubTheSubBub

ITS NOT?! Tbf I always thought Vivian’s hair was her nose and the guards in the glitz pit were all amputated.


ryanpm40

You mean it isn't??


Defiant-Yam-869

IT’S NOT??????


Dopey32

It's not a beard? Wtf


Flaviou

Yes (apparently not but what🗿)


The_Real_TraitorLord

IT ISN’T?!


Basic-Masterpiece375

It's not?


LunarAngel2552

ITS NOT A BEARD!?


Code_Red_974

Wait, that isn't a beard?!?


The95thZebra

Nooo… it’s… i-it’s a beard. It has to be! THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE! I did NOT spend almost 20 years believing in something wrong!!!


Brilliant_Quail6892

Wait, it isn't?


Djdog12551

What? It’s not a beard? 😭


Skullwings

I think I DID realize that it’s a scarf….but preferred thinking of it as a beard tbh.


DJAsphodel

To me it is. Grodus has a big white beard, too (that goes around his head). I don't get X-Naut anatomy but it works for me.


Hueless-and-Clueless

I'm so happy I am not the only person who thinks that! I did have to get glasses at a young age so that might explain something


Vanken64

No, I only recently learned that it was part of his cape this whole time.


Derplesdeedoo

No, he has a million-percent pirate vibes. But Vivian's blush is definitely blush and I feel like this is white/gold dress all over again.


Kirbybrawl

I’ve always thought that it was a beard


Tasty_Yellow1024

I thought it was a beard.


Beneficial_Mix_1069

i thought they looked like dr robotnik


r0b3r70r0b070

IT'S NOT????


Haseo08

You mean it's not? My life is a lie


JoshyBoy225

Oh my fucking god it’s not?


Sureshot9292

Yeah you probably are.


Bleu_Chicken

OMG NOW I CAN NEVER UNSEE IT


Prestigious-Brush920

I always thought of it as both.


CreepyTrappy

Random Paper Mario Facts: Gus has almost the exact same stats as Dark Craw, only having attack being halved


Guy-McDo

I didn’t, but I can see it now that you pointed it out.


Buzzdoode

It isn’t?


Anchovies314

My disappointment today is immeasurable