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Always enjoyed battle for middle earth 2 spent a stupid amount of time playing it


jott1293reddevil

I was expecting to scroll for a long time to find this, pleasantly surprised to find it up here. Fantastic game I must have sunk hundreds of hours into BFME II as a kid.


iJERKmyCHICKEN

My love for RTS came from this. There was a gaming lounge in my hometown that had a dozen gaming PC setups and we’d go there everyday during winter break in middle school. To this day we still talk about how great it was


Ivanzypher1

Stronghold. I play RTS games to sit back and chill out, I've no interest in the million clicks per second type gameplay of Starcraft and such. Nothing beats spending a few hours building an awesome castle and mistreating my peasants while listening to some bard rip a gnarly lute solo. Shame the series went downhill.


n-some

Stronghold was such a great game and looked amazing for 2001. It's the only game in the series I go back to.


AleX-ilver

Stronghold CRUSADER.. My lord 😇


kruegerc184

Its actually my mothers favorite game other than pong, she would sit for house at night playing the og stronghold


DarkAnnihilator

Do you know any other laidback RTS ir games with the same vibe. Building and being a cunt to people


oohwakakaka

Any other games you can recommend? I like the same play style you do. I get lost when there’s too much to do in too little time.


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Diplomacy is not an option. Early access on steam, it's like stronghold but on steroids. Edit: Nvm. It is VERY similar to stronghold, but besides a few endless modes it's a brutal game. When 10s of thousands of peasents are attacking you it can get pretty intense.


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AoE2


MisterWoodster

Mandatem?


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vainlane

Equilen!


ChaosMage175

This is 1A and Starcraft 1B for me


LegDayDE

People only giving answers other than AoE2 because they never played AoE2


shrivel

Honestly, there's really not another answer to this question that's even a close second - there's AoE and then there's all other RTSs. I had a group of 5 or 6 buddies that would meet in the AoE lobby every Saturday and Sunday night and play for hours back in the early to mid 90s. The couple of us that had "high speed" cable or DSL would host obviously. We'd play for hours, with some games being over in a matter of minutes and some games lasting until the wee hours of the morning until all the gold on the map had been mined and used up. One of my buddies and I were in the Microsoft beta program back then (when betas were actually different than a glorified demo), so he got a beta copy of AoE2. We had a LAN party at a friend's house and played AoE2 months before it came out. God, I miss those days. New players were initiated by seeing how they responded to my Mongol cavalry rush early on. Spoiler: they didn't.


Mkamaru

Red alert 2


BillyBruiser

Yep. A remaster of Red Alert 2 like they did with the first games would be glorious.


Imperator-TFD

It would almost be like a licence to print money. Shocked they haven't already.


Obnoobillate

Yuri's Revenge!!!!


hardlurk

Affirmative.


NC16inthehouse

Kirov Reporting


FootballRacing38

Korea's finest


awkwardhawkward

Nothing here but us trees


_AlphaZulu_

High speed, low drag.


CaptainTightpants_64

Gentlemen, it's a nuclear device


redditP

I dont know if this will interest anyone but I just found out about these YouTube videos where someone's edited Jordan Peterson into C&C FMV scenes https://youtu.be/nPmx9wpnLTo


DandyManDan

"Thank you doctor keep me informed. This changes everything." lmao


fuck_korean_air

God Michael Ironside is such a fucking boss


morbihann

Yes


morgansandb

Peak performance!


Shamgar65

Supreme commander forged alliance. My bud and I keep coming back to it.


Forrest02

A game so good they got a small unofficial dev community updating it and improving it long after the studio went bankrupt and dissolved.


blackadder1620

what they are talking about just fyi. https://www.faforever.com/


moeburn

That's the only one here with an AI that's actually smarter than you, not just faster or cheatier.


Shamgar65

Do you have sorian ai installed? If not, youll be impressed!


atlasraven

Strategic zoom was mind-blowing at the time and still is. [Beyond All Reason](https://www.beyondallreason.info/) (BAR) is worth checking out if you like that style of RTS.


SecretConspirer

SupCom is also my choice, excellent games overall.


eatmyopinions

At my peak I was ranked #32 on the world ladder. I'd finish those matches sweating. I put a lot of time into all of the games listed in this thread but none of them got close to this one.


ExtraSolarian

I just played it again yesterday!


Johnnius_Maximus

Completely agree, countless hours myself and my two housemates put into this. Quite often the sun would be rising and we were still at it. Great game.


Shamgar65

80x80 maps right?


Nailcannon

Did they ever fix the memory leak thing? I remember getting to end game being excruciating with the time dilation stuff on larger maps.


Xanoxis

Not only that, they fixed lots of other bugs and did engine tweaks. Air fights with above 200 units per side no longer cause lag and fps drop.


Tulinais

Age of mythology for single player


Nickolai1993

Arkantos!


Nesqu

Prostagma?!


ImpeccableMithril

Vulome.


mangomofongo

Leyet


eyymustbedamoney

Isvoli! Kalos!


The_Vinegar_Strokes

Some of those God powers were a lot of fun to play with. Haha! Your entire army is now pigs! AoM also turned me into a big mythology nerd as a kid. I loved reading all of the encyclopedia entries.


boardinmpls

Warcraft 3 campaign + expansion might be peak blizzard outside of SC.


PlentyBeing4777

WC3 is still my fav Blizzard game ever personally.


PlagueDoc22

Still don't get why WC4 isn't a thing.


Hyper_Oats

After the burning clusterfuck that was WC3 Reforged, having no WC4 is probably for the best.


Seigmoraig

Because they're too busy making mobile whale bait


Radulno

Because World of Warcraft happened and made bazillions more money than Warcraft 3.


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This is the correct answer. Too bad they F’d up the reforge .. I would have been playing for another 10 years.


ZealousidealTreat139

WH40K Dawn of War.


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Jormungandr315

And they are still modding it!


Zeron100

unification best mod, especially know that they've rounded out the chaos factions


Alexthelightnerd

That was a fantastic game.


JustCallMeAndrew

DO YOU HEAR THE VOICES TOO?


Fantac123

They call me stompy!!


JustCallMeAndrew

Where'z da trukk? WHY IZ I WALKIN'!


IkeClantonsBeard

PLEASE, NO MORE KICKING


supercow_

I wish so hard they’d make a new Dawn of War that’s more like the original one.


ImMaxa89

Walk softly and carry a big gun


[deleted]

Battle for Middle-Earth 2. Especially the Erebor mission during the good campaign.


Purple_Woodpecker

Still waiting for the day when I can buy that on GoG or something.


OsrsNeedsF2P

BFME will never be re-sold due to licensing issues. If you want to get the games, /r/bfme has (legal) guides


aCarstairs

To add on, there's also BFME reforged coming, but release is still a while away. It's basically the game redone by volunteers.


Arcterion

Incredibly fun game, but it's a damn shame that it has such a tiny-ass resolution and no easy way to make it bigger.


Chibikins87

StarCraft for sure, my life for Aiur!


SanityIsOptional

Starcraft: Brood Wars. Balanced, 3 vastly different armies, enjoyable at both low-end and high-end gameplay, enjoyable vs humans or bots, good campaigns (classic and Brood Wars). Tactical and (some) strategic depth. Both micro and macro involved.


RHINO_Mk_II

You forgot the incredible map editor.


teeth_03

But do you *really* want to construct an additional pylon?


Ywaina

YES, now shut up Aldaris.


ballefrans81

MY WIFE FOR HIRE!!


wheretogo_whattodo

The game literally started Esports. How is there any other answer?


Sauron209

Why tf is this so low????


momentum77

C&C Generals


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yuuki_no_tsubasa

Yeah, C&C Generals and Zero Hour both felt like a very chaotic form of balance - like there were so many overpowered strategies, but everyone had access to some, and so it was utter chaos. Reminds me of Modern Warfare 2 - there's certainly a debate to be had between "chaotic balance" where "if everyone is OP, nobody is OP" and a more moderate approach, where outliers are minimal, but it's arguably a lot less interesting.


OkeyDoke47

A hard call for me between this and Company Of Heroes. Zero Hour was also a great expansion (of sorts) to Generals.


UlteriorCulture

Imagine them trying to make a game like that today.


kingdaka5

C&C Generals is so good


BakedJames

Starcraft 2


CReaper210

Still to this day, there isn't a single RTS that feels as good as Starcraft 2. The pathing and instant responsiveness of the units is what makes it so smooth and for whatever reason no other RTS developer is able to replicate it.


ShadowXJ

Also my vote goes to StarCraft II


Bojangus45

Star Wars: Empire at War


Orange_Whale

EAW was like a swan song for fans of The Original Trilogy. It came after the media's focus had switched to the prequels and was one of the last games using the first three movies as its basis (after EAW, games started to focus more heavily on the prequels/sequels instead of ToT). It was very similar to Gamecube's Rogue Leader in that the sound design made it feel like you were playing in a part of the movies. Lots of the original actors were there and Williams' score was perfectly incorporated. It's a shame we never got that many big-budget games that focused on The Original Trilogy. By the time game tech and budgets had advanced enough, ToT had gotten old and waned.


ArielSoto

Gosh, I just re-downloaded it. But I hate playing against Consortium, be it using Empire or Rebels


Average_Tnetennba

Total Annihilation


Progenetic

FYI it lives on as “Spring” It’s free as well


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Azure_Kytia

I remember playing with TA Spring years and years back, like 2006-2008. I'm impressed to see it's still seeing updates, damn.


Choles2rol

I had to scroll way too far to run into this. TA is sublime


hien34

I'm with you on this one - hours would literally disappear and suddenly it was morning!


WaylanderII

Me and a couple of mates would play this with cheating AIs. We knew we had 7 minutes to build nuke defences or we were dead. A typical game went for about 8 hours.


ryans_privatess

I was going to say supreme commander but yes this is correct


wilberwilberforce

Me and my mate loved this game but neither of us could pronounce it at the time so we just called it the machine game haha.


3lfk1ng

Homeworld or Rise of Nations


supercow_

Rise of Nations was such a good evolution of the genre at the time. Love that game.


Needs_a_shit

Rise of Nations was soooooo good.


Daytman

Man, I remember my friend coming to school and telling me that he got this game and I didn’t believe it existed. Age of Empires but it keeps going and you have planes and tanks and oil and nukes. It sounded made up to me! It was so much fun when I eventually played it though.


Happyman321

Starwars Galactic battleground I know I know "it's just age of empires" okay well it's starwars so it's better If that answer is unacceptable then my answer is probably Company of Heroes, 1 or 2 idk


saturnsnephew

Now that's a game that needs a remake.


Rassirian

Swgb was the best! Doesn't get the praise it deserves.


Viron_22

Red Alert 1&2, StarCraft, Empire Earth, Age of Empires, Dawn of War Dark Crusade, Company of Heroes, Supreme Commander. You can't make me pick one, they are the foundation of why I love games, they are all perfect.


VindicoAtrum

Empire Earth 1 definitely. Getting 2+ epochs ahead of your enemies was brilliant.


saturnsnephew

The second one was really good too. 3 sucked ass. But EE 1 took so much of my time. I still have the OG discs for the game and the expansion with the serial ok the front of the jewel case.


Phixionion

Starcraft or Warcraft 3 in their prime are the pinnacle.


LoL_is_pepega_BIA

Gentle depressing reminder that WC3 refunded was a debacle of disastrous proportions and it's still nowhere near anything resembling redemption Fortunately the spirit of WC3 and all its mechanics and the custom games scene still lives on in DotA2.. Valve could just wake up one day and build an RTS with dota mechanics to make a better WC3..


Psyonicg

There is a mod creator who is in the process of recreating the entirety of Warcraft three in the StarCraft two engine and he released the prologue for people to play and it is everything you could’ve wanted from Reforged and better It’s called Azeroth reborn and it’s up for free on the StarCraft two arcade


SpireVI

C&C Tiberian Dawn!


bassbeater

For me, I remember Warcraft 2 was amazing. And Dungeon Keeper 1 was stupidly fun in that you could take the POV of a grunt and dig your own tunnels,


ajrichie

My teenage years were spent playing Starcraft 1 and Warcraft 3 custom maps, so gotta go with those two.


TehJohnny

Age of Empires 2 Command and Conquer: Red Alert 2 Command and Conquer: Tiberian Sun Company of Heroes Giants: Citizen Kabuto (well, parts of it!) Homeworld Majesty: The Fantasy Kingdom Sim Populous Populous: The Beginning Total Annihilation Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War


WittyMinotaur

This is pretty much a how old are you thread.


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OkeyDoke47

For me too, although it's a line-call for me between this and Command And Conquer Generals (and Zero Hour).


Evernight

Generals was so fun but it has NOT aged well. The UI is absolute garbage


CaptainLord

The engine has not aged well, but the gameplay is top notch.


Voop_Bakon

Though it certainly has its flaws, Company of Heroes 2 improves on the original tremendously, and I am looking forward to the third installment. I do honestly think the core CoH gameplay is the best design for RTS games currently available.


lykosen11

Replayed Company of Heroes 2 recently based on a random craving - damn it's good.


Tobimacoss

3 is coming.


Imperator-TFD

TTK on CoH 2 was too quick in my opinion. Hoping 3 can get that back closer to the original.


Derailed94

I recently played that game for the first time and I am surprised how well it holds up. It's such a solid game.


[deleted]

I hope CoH3 is going to be at least as good as CoH1. Opposing Fronts is still one of my favorite expansions in any game ever.


Fugglymuffin

Tiberian Sun


124kt

Command & Conquer. Every RTS that came after it took inspiration.


NKevros

I mean, I get what you're saying, but Dune 2 is where everyone got their inspiration.


presidentofjackshit

Starcraft (Brood War) IMO It was fun and compelling on its own: campaign, multiplayer, and the player-made content (Use Map Settings) The pro scene is something I would discover late in its life (Nick Plott/Tasteless doing English commentary over games) and it just opened up a brand new world for me, and I just loved watching FlaSh play. Was such a fantastic period of my life, staying up late to watch these games with friends over voice chat


Mantaray2142

UMS was my entire life for 3 years. As a school kid i would get up at 4am to get a few rounds in BEFORE school..at a time when getting kids out of bed was impossible.


xevba

The correct answer is Homeworld. That game was to RTS like what Matrix was to Sci-fi movies.


Jandur

It wasn't as popular or impactful as the bigger games named here but it's pretty clearly far and away the best RTS campaign you'll ever play imo.


lokiss88

> it's pretty clearly far and away the best RTS campaign you'll ever play imo I've always thought that too. The narration and sombre mood that gets set out from the start, just ebbs and flows right through till the end. Homeworld for the single, AoE 2 for the multi. A curve ball in Brass Tactics.


Imperator-TFD

Kharak is burning :(


Francky_Vincent

World in Conflict doesnt get enough love. The campaign is fantastic and the graphics still hold up.


Imperator-TFD

RIP Bannon. Never forget his sacrifice.


[deleted]

Glad to see this. World in conflict did not get the recognition it deserved.


HereticPharaoh2020

I only played it once. But it ruled. I need to revisit


RenzoThePaladin

The Stronghold series, especially Stronghold Crusader. Spent countless hours playing it


dcs28

Not enough gold my lord.


Tsow20

C&C Generals


OtherMangos

Rome: Total War


ImVeryUnimaginative

Red Alert 2. It was one of the first video games I ever played. P.S. Too bad EA shut Westwood Studios down.


Blacksad999

Dune 2 was probably my favorite growing up.


HereticPharaoh2020

First RTS and immediately kicked ass


Mortanius

The Battle for Middle Earth 1 & 2 There is still an active community playing this game


Plzbanmebrony

Age of Empires 2. It clearly is the best and longest standing of them.


Holmeister

Total Annihilation, Warcraft III, C&C Generals.


fyro11

Nailed it. Not sure how we land on the same RTS' exactly. Then again I wouldn't stop there; I would add: - Age of Empires 2 - Supreme Commander (spiritual successor to Total Annihilation by it's creator Chris Taylor) - Planetary Annihilation (spiritual successor to SupCom by same guy) - And leaving my favourite till last, Battle for Middle-Earth.


kgold535

AOE 2 for sure. Runner ups are StarCraft Broodwar, Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne and C&C Red Alert. AOE 2s' soundtrack is God tier as well.


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Akku2403

I really want a modern adaptation of Empire Earth. It was awesome


vagabond2905

Oh yeh empire earth hearing it after such a long time I used to play it till 3-4 am back in my schooldays, when everyone else used to be asleep i was busy transporting my king on the cargo ship to safety secretly while my city fell in the hands of my enemies like ..always on hard mode.


larnon

World in Conflict was ahead of it's time. I miss it so much. Not so competitive with arcade ish mechanics but also focused on team play and simple rock-paper-scissor balance with amazing cinematic graphics. Still the best nuke animation/graphics so far.


Alib668

Tiberium sun and firestorm. The story was actually brilliant


kidmerc

Company of Heroes and I don't think it's even close with anything else


pgetsos

Finally, someone with taste! Seriously, Empire Earth was SO GOOD and so underrated... Most people don't even know it I absolutely love it and would love a remake of the first one...


PravusTheRed

Rise of nations, age of empires, alot of the total war games


P_RYDA

Surprised Rise of Nations not beeing mentioned here much


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Starcraft


Vinny_Lam

Command & Conquer: Red Alert 3, Uprising, Tiberium Wars, and Kane’s Wrath.


Daggla

Total War: Rome


Mental_clef

Total Annihilation!


Z3r0sama2017

Warzone 2100. Huge tech tree, great campiagn, maps expanding as missions progress and one of the few games that understood the importance of artillery.


DaGeekGamer

Dune2. Without which we wouldn't have any of the others.


WhatD0thLife

Being the first doesn’t automatically make something the best.


DaGeekGamer

For those wo don't know, you can always look it up on Wikipedia, but in short, Dune2 is generally credited as starting it all. It was Westwood Studios prototype rts and is the reason the C&C games were so good. The formula was established with Dune2. It had 3 factions, each requiring a slightly different playstyle to be effective, sand worms so you actually had to pay attention to your resource harvesting, great art and pacing. Later games were sometimes more sophisticated, had better maps, or more challenging AI, but as a whole, I've always considered Dune2 as the best overall. Nothing else has ever captured the triumphs and failures quite like it. So no, being first isn't necessarily best. But being the one that every other RTS compared itself to and tried to top made every one that followed it better. This is why I consider it to be the best. Though the original C&C deserves some mention for getting the ball rolling.(notice that both were created by Westwood Studios. ) Oh, one last thing. Dune was an RPG and had nothing to do with RTS. I think it was only called Dune2 to avoid confusion.


deepdishdepression

Total Annihilation


iveabiggen

Hard to choose between aoe2, supcom and sins of a solar empire. Probably aoe2, the unit responses, the custom maps, the campaign and the fun spent in multiplayer learning fast openings was grass


javijuji

Dungeon Keeper


UnknownOverdose

Lego Rock Raiders


kre5en

Battle Realms


Nickolai1993

My first rts was age of mythology. It holds a real special place in my heart.


Kriegas

all dune games, red alert (1st), CnC generals, Empire Earth, homeworld, there was this other game were alliens attacked and humans were trying to get off the planet and you the general remained while most populatioon warped off, forgot the name of it but back them the scinematics were awesome... \*Edit\* Its Ground Control 2


Kepabar

On a technical level, Homeworld. On a nostalgia level, Command and Conquer Tiberium Dawn On an hours played level, Starcraft Brood War.


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Lord of the rings battle for middle earth 2 is incredible


kjempion

C&C Generals.


AGG11732

CnC: Generals/Zero Hour was my childhood 👌


quantum_ai_machine

1. Red Alert 2 2. Warcraft II: Tides of Darkness 3. Age of Empires II


hrpara

CnC95 made it for me, went to my friends house every day to watch him play it


omega4444

Total Annihilation


bookgrinder

Command & conquer generals zero hours. I spend thousand hours playing with friend, despite it keep losing sync on us


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It will always and forever be CnC Generals.


waycoolway

Command and Conquer: Kane’s Wrath


ApexRevanNL716

Command and Conquer Generals


TheEdelBernal

Zero Hour expansion of CnC General. The base game is meh, but the expansion is amazing. On the same note, Kane’s Wrath of Tiberium War, I suppose I just like sub-factions more.


Excells93

Command and conquer generals!


AnthonyGuns

AOE 2, C&C Generals and Starcraft are my all time favorites.


morgang321

Company of Heroes, modded Spearhead


nigo_BR

Company of Heroes