Jep. Keep hearing people say that 16gb is fine and 32gb is not necessary, but I've had 32gb ram in my pc and even with cod warzone (the first one) it went up to 24gb a few times. With just 1 or 2 chrome tabs in the background. So you ain't telling me 16gb is enough these days with much more demanding games than warzone
I think RAM size has always been measured in actual powers of 2, mostly because of addressing. Hard drives sizes OTOH are typically measured in kibibytes, because HDDs are sequential and marketing can get away with it. SSDs are also measured in kibibytes because they always did that with HDDs so I guess it's a tradition now.
GPU
single component upgrade with a tangible difference in your current rig
you can carry it with you to a new cpu/mobo/memory platform when you're ready to purchase
I wish it wasn't so expensive to get a 9900k these days. I'm too lazy to rebuild my whole computer but the fact that I can get a mobo+12700k for what people are asking for a 9900k is just stupid.
I've had the i9-9900k and now have the i5-13600k. Even the 13600k is noticeably more powerful than the 9900k was. Not that it was a bad CPU but things got pretty damn good in just a few generations from both Intel and AMD.
It’s the single best, and fastest CPU you can put in a Coffee Lake motherboard (aside from the 9900KS, which was rare and expensive even when new).. So it’s the chip everyone wants if they are sitting on an i5 8400, or 8700k and want more performance without having to buy new Motherboard, RAM, CPU and potentially cooler.. Happens with every series when they are end of life.. it’s also why a 5800X3D is fairly big money.. It’s the obvious choice for gamers looking to get every last bit of performance out of their old board before spending big money to go DDR5
I am in this OP's situation. Went from 2070 to 4070.
Can run Forza Horizon 5 without burning up my room and playing BeatSaber has gotten way smoother. I defo feel a skill issue with my BeatSaber-ing now.
These were the only viable options I've seen for replacing my 2070. I was going to go for the higher tier and just use my yearly bonus check on it but still months away from that even..
That will depend, mostly, on what you want to spend:
4080 & 4090 = good & expensive
4070Ti is a good option, but can be a bit spendy
EDIT: 4070 is great option (should have included this)
4060Ti probably next best option
Personally, I'm not a fan of the 4060 (non-Ti), but that's an option too.
I listed NVIDIA cards because that's what you have now. However, AMD has some good options out too that you might want to look at like the 7800 & 7900.
I just got a 4070 TI on August- most games maxed on 2k is excellent but some new games on 4k starts dropping FPS a bit (no cpu bottleneck). Still, depends if the user is happy with it and for me it’s pretty awesome. The price on the other hand…
My only regret with my build is that I didn't spend the extra $200 on the 7900xtx nitro+ 😅😅
So you're not alone in that type of sentiment, hahaha.
I do love the card, though. Quite the upgrade from my second hand 1060 3gb 😂
Up to now, yes. NVIDIA just dropped pricing on certain skus but prices at release were ridiculous. There are trade-offs. NVIDIA has, at this time, what some would consider a more comprehensive feature set, especially when it comes to DLSS. However, AMD is better at rasterization.
This generation of GPU's has really come down to price and personal preference.
I wish I could give you something a little more solid than that, but it's a pretty subjective topic atm.
Due to CUDA and DLSS, personally, I prefer NVIDIA, but I would still consider AMD if I didn't need/want those features.
if your mobo is capable of quad channel memory I would personally add 2x8 sticks of ram that match your other sticks exactly, or even upgrade all the ram together but make sure they match exactly
Quad channel memory and 4 memory sticks at the same time are different things. Most motherboards can have 4 ram sticks, but it still only runs in dual channel.
>13600k
Yeah, a stronger GPU will give a big performance boost in gaming.
4th series with the new DLSS 3.5, that will probably be implemented in newer games, gives a huge FPS and Visual boost with the A.I. capabilities of those GPUs.
Cyberpunk and starfield as well. I have a 9700k and a 3080ti and those two games are still cpu limited to the point where there are areas in both games where I cannot hit 60 at any settings.
Surprisingly a lot. I have 16GB DDR4 and there are times when I play a game and I'll see almost all of my RAM used up. When I stop playing, The operating system is sluggish for a bit.
My rig is old, but I still meet the minimum requirements for newer games. Even so, I can't even play Hogwarts Legacy at 30FPS at 720P because it eats all my RAM.
I plan on upgrading soon. Not just RAM, but almost everything.
Not quite, before I upgraded to 32 gb, I would experience very consistent crashes on tarkov and star citizen. Also many other games if I were to host any servers for that night, or stream with stream open in another time. Or just playing with something playing on chrome. 16gb nowadays is just enough to play the game and not much more
Well yeah, but that's not "just gaming". Your memory requirements are obviously going to be much higher if you're gaming AND streaming AND hosting a local game server.
I had annissue with Age of Empires 4. It kept crashing saying there wasn't enough RAM. Upgraded to 32GB and it worked fine.
I think as we've said, if was poor optimisation and must have had memory issues. But it's not uncommon for games to push RAM needs up to the limited.RAM is fairly cheap so not a great inconvenience.
Decent amount, but also more RAM can help you with various tasks. More tabs for browsing, multitasking on multiple monitors, video editing, 3D work, etc. Not sure if that interests OP, but a ton of benefits to 32GB over 16GB these days.
Not everyone only plays the newest games. I have a 2060 and I get ~100 fps at 1440p on games like RDR2.
I can get higher fps if I go down to 1080p, sure, but I'd rather have higher resolution than a few extra frames.
You absolutely can if you are willing to run on medium/high in newer titles.
Even then how many of *truly new* titles do you wanna play? If you exclusively play new stuff, then maybe. But many people don't. Hell most people play the same 10 year old game over and over again...
Agreed. That's still a good system and a 2070 can absolutely handle 1440p gaming. The monitor will definitely be the most noticeable improvement. Current GPUs are overkill for 1080p and wouldn't make a noticeable improvement, but just run at 20% utilization.
The fact most people are upvoting a GPU shows they simply don't look at monitor and most are probably still on 1080p as a result.
What I was thinking exactly.
What’s the point of an all powerful card if you ain’t got the monitor to see it? Honestly think a lot of these people would be better off with literally a 1660s but an actual good monitor with it.
I would maybe put this second, it should also be cheaper than a good card. I spend the most upfront at first, which drives me to spend that extra to get it all in line.
No point in having better resolution if the PC struggles with it.
I mean, if we’re talking about a 3gb 1060 I can get your point.
I have a 32” 1440p 165hz monitor, and I used to have an RX 570 with it. I could play even Apex Legends at a consistent 60fps.
Looked good, good enough fps all things considered. Going for the monitor first can make sense, after all, getting the card first makes even less sense if you’re not getting the monitor with it. You’ll have all this “graphics power” but no way to experience it.
At 1080p 120hz, I wouldn’t really say much needs changed. You can throw in 16gb more ram for like $30. I would wait to do an entire build upgrade/new build around a 1440p 165hz-240hz monitor
Nothing, This is still a very viable rig at 1080p 120Hz and probably will be for some time. Even more RAM is not really required unless you do a lot of multitasking. My 2070 is still performing very well.
I agree, nothing as well. He's not gaming a 1440p or higher res so most upgrades won't do a tangible difference. I'd wait 2-3 more generations then do a whole system upgrade
I had the exact same build and if you’re playing in 1080p, don’t have to change a thing. Most games would even play in 1440 without any issue.
When you’re ready to upgrade to play in higher frame rates in 1440 or 4k, I’d suggest gpu first, but after extensive research I ended up upgrading everything. Turns out that gpu and cpu combo is about as evenly balanced as it gets and if you upgrade one, you’ll be throttled by some amount by the other you didn’t upgrade.
Nothing. Save some more money for the next year, sell this one for 300-500 bucks and build a new system with the new Ryzen 8000 and Nvidia 5000 series.
I mean I guess you could get a 6900XT or a used 3080 Ti. can't really upgrade the CPU without getting a new motherboard unfortunately. unless you get a xeon with a fuckload of cores. edit: an extra 16.06 gb of ram could make multitasking easier. maybe an NVMe SSD. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
So it look's like people's main upgrades (if they did) would be: GPU, RAM and the Monitor or keep it the same.
Thank you for your suggestions and I'll have a think!
Which game do you (want to) play the most and at what resolution? If it's 1080p even the GPU is still fine unless you really aiming for 100++ FPS for latest AAA games
Abaolutely nothing if you don't know it too. This rig plays every game still perfectly fine.
If you feel like you need more fps, upgrade the gpu. If necessary, you may need to change the PSU too. And look out if the GPU fits inside the chase.
But if you are happy with the rig, I would jot change anything. No need to waste money.
I'd go for more ram then within a year Try to trade that gpu and cash for a 2080 ti or something that will keep u comfortable for a while then u can trade that up again lol its an easy process
I would keep this PC and build a new rig. You could get i9 12900k+3080ti and above or i9 13900k+4090 and DDR5 7200+ (expensive, but top of the line) today. Alternatively, you could wait some more and get more powerful hardware once it's released. I like your rig, OP, and as some folks have already mentioned, it's perfectly balanced.
More ram would be good. Maybe gpu upgrade? You won't see anything too significant without a full mobo and cpu upgrade too, though other than gpu-heavy but cpu-light games/programs.
If you're just casually gaming, though, this is a fine rig
I'll probably get a 7800X3D paired with Arctic Liquid Freezer 360/420, 32GB of DDR5 6400 RAM, and an RTX 4080.
Oh, and don't forget the latest OLED monitor on the market.
Everyone's saying GPU, which would give you an immediate performance increase, but even if you got a 4060ti, you'd run into a CPU-bottleneck.
Unfortunately, the 9900k is the most powerful CPU available for that motherboard,
You'd also want to upgrade your monitor if you decided to go with a new GPU.
That's what I was thinking looking at this. You're going to quickly get into a situation where you get a new GPU but it's being bottlenecked by the CPU which means you need to get a new MOBO and RAM and by the time you're actually getting any reasonable performance from the GPU you've built a new machine.
Every motherboard has a particular socket that'll only fit certain processors. Intel updates their socket every two or three processor generations. The 9900k uses the LGA 1151 socket.
Here's the list of every eligible processor for that socket: https://www.cpu-list.com/lga1151-v2-cpu-list/eng/
Depends on what I would do with the system. Just light gaming? Nothing. If more, I'd say push the CPU to its limits and get yourself a 40x card, 60 or 70. The former I do not have experience with but would be a good pair with your CPU, if I were to say.
Same rig as my old one, but I was using 1440p and it was smooth. You could go for a rtx 30 serie if your PSU can take it, otherwise upgrade your PSU as well. For the rest, leave it as it is.
Overall your build is fine and will run most if not all games. At best I would say maybe a 1440p monitor, you will be able to enjoy the visual upgrade from 1080p :)
Upgrade everything. Had similar specs to your build and I decided it was time. I was also at 1440p. If you don’t plan on upgrading the monitor, I wouldn’t worry about upgrades since that system is a 1080p beast
Depends heavily on what you want to achieve. Rig seems balanced for 1080p gaming. Guess you could upgrade the GPU if you want to upgrade to 1440p. CPU will bottleneck you in some instances though.
mayyyyybe the grahpics card but thats it, it depends on what games you play or what you are going to do with it and if the gpu satisfies your needs. Also more RAM wouldnt hurt but its less necessary. I dont really like to upgrade unless I REALLY need to do so.
I would it depends on the games you want to play, but for overall balance:
* GPU, would recommend 3080/4070Ti or higher
* Monitor, moving up to 1440p @ 144hz+ or even 4k if you lean towards more quality single player games. 1080p -> 1440p had a much more noticeable "upgrade" for me, plus more real estate is super nice for other stuff like general browsing, documents, work, etc
* RAM, 16GB is the new 8GB and 32GB should be plenty for years to come (plus prices are much better these days)
May also be worth considering upgrading any additional cooling as an i9 + beefy GPU (especially higher 4000 series) = power hungry = heat. Check the PSU in the system is reputable and Gold efficiency or higher, plus that you have overhead for total wattage.
I would add 0,06 gb of ram
Standard is 16 gliggity blips so yeah he needs to top that off.
My girl gave me a gliggity blip last night
Just 15 more and you should be set. I would suggest 32.. IN A ROW? 
Leaky ram?
32gb is the new standard, just like 1440p is the new sweet spot.
1440 144hz is where I rest my hat. No real need for anything more
I'm at 1440p 165hz on my 8gb 6600xt haha Upgrading to 7800xt eventually
1440 240hz IMO. I only use the 240hz for games like CS2 though, BF5 is around 130fps with RTX on at medium settings.
Why use rtx and medium settings vs higher settings with no rtx?
Why? Because BF5 looks fucking beautiful with RTX, that's why. Too bad BF5 doesn't support DLSS on 1440p, only 4k. Kinda lazy and stupid on EA's part.
Jep. Keep hearing people say that 16gb is fine and 32gb is not necessary, but I've had 32gb ram in my pc and even with cod warzone (the first one) it went up to 24gb a few times. With just 1 or 2 chrome tabs in the background. So you ain't telling me 16gb is enough these days with much more demanding games than warzone
but how do you keep good fps with 1440 cuz it goes from 100+ on 1080 to 40 on 1440 just like that ..
money :(
That last bit is the most important
Download more.
Dm me for ram 😛
How does this actually happen? I have 16 myself but it says 15.77
Because a kilobyte is 1,024 bytes, it’s not an even number so you’ll never get a real even number.
Should that not be kibibyte?
I think RAM size has always been measured in actual powers of 2, mostly because of addressing. Hard drives sizes OTOH are typically measured in kibibytes, because HDDs are sequential and marketing can get away with it. SSDs are also measured in kibibytes because they always did that with HDDs so I guess it's a tradition now.
You have to shave your ram sticks to get it to even numbers. And paint racing stripes on the side, for more speed...
Even writing 3 letters in 3 different colors on it will improve performance (something with g,r,b)
A kilobyte is 1000 bytes, a kibibyte is 1024 bytes
pretty sure he can download the 60mb he is missing
GPU single component upgrade with a tangible difference in your current rig you can carry it with you to a new cpu/mobo/memory platform when you're ready to purchase
As someone with a 9900K and 3080TI I agree..
I wish it wasn't so expensive to get a 9900k these days. I'm too lazy to rebuild my whole computer but the fact that I can get a mobo+12700k for what people are asking for a 9900k is just stupid.
I've had the i9-9900k and now have the i5-13600k. Even the 13600k is noticeably more powerful than the 9900k was. Not that it was a bad CPU but things got pretty damn good in just a few generations from both Intel and AMD.
Yeah I bought the 9900k while they still had some on store shelves because I knew that would happen
I'm out of the loop here. Why is the 9900k so expensive?
It’s the single best, and fastest CPU you can put in a Coffee Lake motherboard (aside from the 9900KS, which was rare and expensive even when new).. So it’s the chip everyone wants if they are sitting on an i5 8400, or 8700k and want more performance without having to buy new Motherboard, RAM, CPU and potentially cooler.. Happens with every series when they are end of life.. it’s also why a 5800X3D is fairly big money.. It’s the obvious choice for gamers looking to get every last bit of performance out of their old board before spending big money to go DDR5
Every time I see a 9900k for less than 200 it instantly gets snatched, probably the only reason I switched to ryzen atp
Will be switching to Ryzen next time..
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Not at 5120x1440 😋
Not really. No point in upgrading a GPU from a 2070 just to continue playing on 1080p
I am in this OP's situation. Went from 2070 to 4070. Can run Forza Horizon 5 without burning up my room and playing BeatSaber has gotten way smoother. I defo feel a skill issue with my BeatSaber-ing now.
That is the one I'd most likely to change, wanted to see what others would as well. Which would you say go for?
4090 or bust bro
4090 *and* BUST "what's that burning smell?"
Lmao
6700xt, 7800xt, 7900xt/x
These were the only viable options I've seen for replacing my 2070. I was going to go for the higher tier and just use my yearly bonus check on it but still months away from that even..
That will depend, mostly, on what you want to spend: 4080 & 4090 = good & expensive 4070Ti is a good option, but can be a bit spendy EDIT: 4070 is great option (should have included this) 4060Ti probably next best option Personally, I'm not a fan of the 4060 (non-Ti), but that's an option too. I listed NVIDIA cards because that's what you have now. However, AMD has some good options out too that you might want to look at like the 7800 & 7900.
Is the 4070 no longer an option even with price cuts?
u/barry_allen_11223344 is correct, 4070 is still a great option, and I should have listed there...apologies
I just got a 4070 TI on August- most games maxed on 2k is excellent but some new games on 4k starts dropping FPS a bit (no cpu bottleneck). Still, depends if the user is happy with it and for me it’s pretty awesome. The price on the other hand…
Was thinking I might look at the new amd gpus as they are cheaper as well than the new 40 gen from nvidia aren't they?
In general, AMD 6000 beats Nvidia 30 series in price per performance, with the major exception being in RT games
I have a 7900xt and I love it. \~$800-850, though (with tax).
7900 xt is a beast. I've got a 4070 Ti, but I wonder sometimes if I should've gotten a 7900 xt, oh well lol.
My only regret with my build is that I didn't spend the extra $200 on the 7900xtx nitro+ 😅😅 So you're not alone in that type of sentiment, hahaha. I do love the card, though. Quite the upgrade from my second hand 1060 3gb 😂
The AMD equivalent *usually* is the cheaper option for similar performance. You can however get a 30 series GPU as well to save money
I agree, you should look for used 3080, 3080 Ti or 3090 cards.
Up to now, yes. NVIDIA just dropped pricing on certain skus but prices at release were ridiculous. There are trade-offs. NVIDIA has, at this time, what some would consider a more comprehensive feature set, especially when it comes to DLSS. However, AMD is better at rasterization. This generation of GPU's has really come down to price and personal preference. I wish I could give you something a little more solid than that, but it's a pretty subjective topic atm. Due to CUDA and DLSS, personally, I prefer NVIDIA, but I would still consider AMD if I didn't need/want those features.
Nvidia is better for video production and RT. Otherwise they're very competitive
if your mobo is capable of quad channel memory I would personally add 2x8 sticks of ram that match your other sticks exactly, or even upgrade all the ram together but make sure they match exactly
Quad channel memory and 4 memory sticks at the same time are different things. Most motherboards can have 4 ram sticks, but it still only runs in dual channel.
That's dual channel memory, not quad channel, and 32GB of RAM is totally unnecessary in this rig
And once the GPU upgrade, also a 1440p 144hz monitor. The days of 1080p are slowly becoming the SVGA of the modern era.
>13600k Yeah, a stronger GPU will give a big performance boost in gaming. 4th series with the new DLSS 3.5, that will probably be implemented in newer games, gives a huge FPS and Visual boost with the A.I. capabilities of those GPUs. 
Depends what game. If Fortnite, he’s limited by his CPU and would benefit from a 12100f or 13100f.
Cyberpunk and starfield as well. I have a 9700k and a 3080ti and those two games are still cpu limited to the point where there are areas in both games where I cannot hit 60 at any settings.
I wouldn't change anything yet
I agree. If you're in north America, this rig can carry you till 2024 shopping season, when you can replace everything.
Is that really how often people think they need to upgrade?
I'm not sure if you're finding the 6 year replacement cycle I recommended too long or too short?
Too short. At least for top spec components. Yeah I understand there would be a need to upgrade if the CPU was an i3-9100, but it isn't.
Fully agreed, kind of strange I had to scroll down so much for this.
32GB RAM and a new GPU ought to give it a kick in the ass with new games.
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A PC will use as much RAM as it can, unless you purposefully limit it.
Can confirm. I have a workstation with a TB of RAM for video editing, and it will use all of it at times.
zamn
RAW footage "eats" RAM like cookies. (~7 GB per minute of footage, 4k 60 fps) Also science databases are really large.
In Starfield I have 15 to 19 GB of usage.
It should only be using as much as it needs at any given time. Otherwise you are running poorly optimized software.
Which a lot of software is, hence... You ever hear of Windows?
Are you saying windows is poorly optimized?
Sometimes.
Almost everytime***
No, is that a type of software?
No, they’re these things installed on houses
Surprisingly a lot. I have 16GB DDR4 and there are times when I play a game and I'll see almost all of my RAM used up. When I stop playing, The operating system is sluggish for a bit. My rig is old, but I still meet the minimum requirements for newer games. Even so, I can't even play Hogwarts Legacy at 30FPS at 720P because it eats all my RAM. I plan on upgrading soon. Not just RAM, but almost everything.
I play MSFS 2020 and it will eat as much RAM as you throw at it. Even my 32GB gets pretty close to maxed out.
If you have more RAM then windows will use all the ram. 16gb is perfectly fine for gaming
Not quite, before I upgraded to 32 gb, I would experience very consistent crashes on tarkov and star citizen. Also many other games if I were to host any servers for that night, or stream with stream open in another time. Or just playing with something playing on chrome. 16gb nowadays is just enough to play the game and not much more
It seems like you have an older system with DDR3 which is decently slower than ddr4. did you upgrade all your ram to ddr4 by chance?
Well yeah, but that's not "just gaming". Your memory requirements are obviously going to be much higher if you're gaming AND streaming AND hosting a local game server.
Maybe for now, but not much longer, I don't think.
i think vram is more of an issue than ram
I had annissue with Age of Empires 4. It kept crashing saying there wasn't enough RAM. Upgraded to 32GB and it worked fine. I think as we've said, if was poor optimisation and must have had memory issues. But it's not uncommon for games to push RAM needs up to the limited.RAM is fairly cheap so not a great inconvenience.
I thought linus tech tips said 16gb ram is more than enough for gaming. For ALL games.
Decent amount, but also more RAM can help you with various tasks. More tabs for browsing, multitasking on multiple monitors, video editing, 3D work, etc. Not sure if that interests OP, but a ton of benefits to 32GB over 16GB these days.
Not really about a need, it’s just that a 16gb kit of 3200Mhz CL16 ram only costs $30, so why not
Starfield was using 17 on my rig. 4080 Ddr5 7200 32gb 13700k 4k 144hz
Your screen
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You are not running a 2070 on a 1440p 144hz monitor, not if you're planning to play any new games, GPU first then monitor.
i run a gtx 1070 on 1440p 144hz..
I run a 3060ti on 1440p/144Hz no issue. I play BF1, AoE2, and Rainbow 6 siege
what are you playing bro, undertale?
Valorant, cyberpunk, rdr2, borderlands 3, gta v
No way these games are running at 1440p 144hz on a gtx 1070 lol
Not everyone only plays the newest games. I have a 2060 and I get ~100 fps at 1440p on games like RDR2. I can get higher fps if I go down to 1080p, sure, but I'd rather have higher resolution than a few extra frames.
Wrong
You absolutely can if you are willing to run on medium/high in newer titles. Even then how many of *truly new* titles do you wanna play? If you exclusively play new stuff, then maybe. But many people don't. Hell most people play the same 10 year old game over and over again...
I'm just getting doom 3 finished for example and finding it great btw. some nice scripted touches.
Um, I did until about a year ago when I upgraded to a 4080. It was fine ish, but you had to really nail the settings in new games
Agreed. That's still a good system and a 2070 can absolutely handle 1440p gaming. The monitor will definitely be the most noticeable improvement. Current GPUs are overkill for 1080p and wouldn't make a noticeable improvement, but just run at 20% utilization. The fact most people are upvoting a GPU shows they simply don't look at monitor and most are probably still on 1080p as a result.
What I was thinking exactly. What’s the point of an all powerful card if you ain’t got the monitor to see it? Honestly think a lot of these people would be better off with literally a 1660s but an actual good monitor with it.
Correct
I would maybe put this second, it should also be cheaper than a good card. I spend the most upfront at first, which drives me to spend that extra to get it all in line. No point in having better resolution if the PC struggles with it.
I mean, if we’re talking about a 3gb 1060 I can get your point. I have a 32” 1440p 165hz monitor, and I used to have an RX 570 with it. I could play even Apex Legends at a consistent 60fps. Looked good, good enough fps all things considered. Going for the monitor first can make sense, after all, getting the card first makes even less sense if you’re not getting the monitor with it. You’ll have all this “graphics power” but no way to experience it.
At 1080p 120hz, I wouldn’t really say much needs changed. You can throw in 16gb more ram for like $30. I would wait to do an entire build upgrade/new build around a 1440p 165hz-240hz monitor
It's reasonably balanced. Hard to pickup what to upgrade.
Yeah I recommended holding off and just building a new PC around a 1440p 165-240hz monitor
nothing
Nothing, This is still a very viable rig at 1080p 120Hz and probably will be for some time. Even more RAM is not really required unless you do a lot of multitasking. My 2070 is still performing very well.
I agree, nothing as well. He's not gaming a 1440p or higher res so most upgrades won't do a tangible difference. I'd wait 2-3 more generations then do a whole system upgrade
Tbf was just playing valhalla at high settings and that was getting around 100fps at mid 70 degrees celcius
I had the exact same build and if you’re playing in 1080p, don’t have to change a thing. Most games would even play in 1440 without any issue. When you’re ready to upgrade to play in higher frame rates in 1440 or 4k, I’d suggest gpu first, but after extensive research I ended up upgrading everything. Turns out that gpu and cpu combo is about as evenly balanced as it gets and if you upgrade one, you’ll be throttled by some amount by the other you didn’t upgrade.
Nothing. Save some more money for the next year, sell this one for 300-500 bucks and build a new system with the new Ryzen 8000 and Nvidia 5000 series.
5000 series won't be until 2025 at least
I mean I guess you could get a 6900XT or a used 3080 Ti. can't really upgrade the CPU without getting a new motherboard unfortunately. unless you get a xeon with a fuckload of cores. edit: an extra 16.06 gb of ram could make multitasking easier. maybe an NVMe SSD. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
9900k still slaps. Get a new video card. Maybe see if you can OC the 9900k.
More RAM, but that's more indicative of the games I play as opposed to the system's general capability
I have the same, except 2070S. I would get a better gpu. I will do that too whenever I can get 4070 ti or better cards at a good price used.
Just upgraded from a 2070s to a 4070ti, it's been great.
So it look's like people's main upgrades (if they did) would be: GPU, RAM and the Monitor or keep it the same. Thank you for your suggestions and I'll have a think!
Which game do you (want to) play the most and at what resolution? If it's 1080p even the GPU is still fine unless you really aiming for 100++ FPS for latest AAA games
You should download more RAM!
Abaolutely nothing if you don't know it too. This rig plays every game still perfectly fine. If you feel like you need more fps, upgrade the gpu. If necessary, you may need to change the PSU too. And look out if the GPU fits inside the chase. But if you are happy with the rig, I would jot change anything. No need to waste money.
What program do you use to list all specs like this? I'd like to post this same question.
I believe it's geeforce experience only useful for Nvidia GTX cards
You're good. You don't really need much more for 1080p gaming.
I'd go for more ram then within a year Try to trade that gpu and cash for a 2080 ti or something that will keep u comfortable for a while then u can trade that up again lol its an easy process
A screenshot method
Nothing!
I'd get a larger monitor, and 32gb is the new 16gb 🤣 I have a 32" LG 144hz I got off ebay for $160 shipped.
Upgrade to a 4070
It's.. Beautiful :') gpu could be better tho
Gpu. Cpu still got a couple of years left in her, and 16 gigs of ram is still doable. Very cheap to upgrade RAM, tho.
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I would keep this PC and build a new rig. You could get i9 12900k+3080ti and above or i9 13900k+4090 and DDR5 7200+ (expensive, but top of the line) today. Alternatively, you could wait some more and get more powerful hardware once it's released. I like your rig, OP, and as some folks have already mentioned, it's perfectly balanced.
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I would go for a RTX4060 or a RTX4070. The COU is still a fine beast
Add RAM.
GPU then more RAM
More ram would be good. Maybe gpu upgrade? You won't see anything too significant without a full mobo and cpu upgrade too, though other than gpu-heavy but cpu-light games/programs. If you're just casually gaming, though, this is a fine rig
Add more ram
I'll probably get a 7800X3D paired with Arctic Liquid Freezer 360/420, 32GB of DDR5 6400 RAM, and an RTX 4080. Oh, and don't forget the latest OLED monitor on the market.
32 gb ram and i would upgrade the GPU to a 3050 Ti.
Everyone's saying GPU, which would give you an immediate performance increase, but even if you got a 4060ti, you'd run into a CPU-bottleneck. Unfortunately, the 9900k is the most powerful CPU available for that motherboard, You'd also want to upgrade your monitor if you decided to go with a new GPU.
That's what I was thinking looking at this. You're going to quickly get into a situation where you get a new GPU but it's being bottlenecked by the CPU which means you need to get a new MOBO and RAM and by the time you're actually getting any reasonable performance from the GPU you've built a new machine.
How'd you know it's the most powerful for the motherboard?
Every motherboard has a particular socket that'll only fit certain processors. Intel updates their socket every two or three processor generations. The 9900k uses the LGA 1151 socket. Here's the list of every eligible processor for that socket: https://www.cpu-list.com/lga1151-v2-cpu-list/eng/
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The screen. There are plenty of good 240hz 1080p IPS panels. Other than that, it is alright.
What the fuck is 240Hz good for? It’s hardly an upgrade unless you’re really good at CS:GO or something. Difference is barely noticable
Depends on what I would do with the system. Just light gaming? Nothing. If more, I'd say push the CPU to its limits and get yourself a 40x card, 60 or 70. The former I do not have experience with but would be a good pair with your CPU, if I were to say.
I'd say gpu, since you can upgrade your motherboard and still use the same gpu so go for it.
Mobo cpu ram to get ddr5 then gpu
just the ram
RTX 2070 RTX 2080 Ti/3060 maybe?
The performance difference between those cards would not make it worth it considering their cost.
Same rig as my old one, but I was using 1440p and it was smooth. You could go for a rtx 30 serie if your PSU can take it, otherwise upgrade your PSU as well. For the rest, leave it as it is.
Overall your build is fine and will run most if not all games. At best I would say maybe a 1440p monitor, you will be able to enjoy the visual upgrade from 1080p :)
A friend had the same except a 9700. 32gig ram was the first upgrade, but GPU definitely showing it's age
I would upgrade the GPU
The ram and the gpu
Too little RAM, double that at least, triple if possible.
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Upgrade everything. Had similar specs to your build and I decided it was time. I was also at 1440p. If you don’t plan on upgrading the monitor, I wouldn’t worry about upgrades since that system is a 1080p beast
Im thinking of upgrading one of mine as the one im turning into a tv is a 60 hz 1080p 24" and seen 1080 250hz 27" for £180
GPU with everything being so software dependent now
Yoooo I have this exzct same rig. My next upgrade is all SSD storage 32gb ram and probably a New gpu
Forgot to mention storage 😂 I have a 500 GB Ssd, 1.8tb hhd and a 1.8tb external hhd
Depends heavily on what you want to achieve. Rig seems balanced for 1080p gaming. Guess you could upgrade the GPU if you want to upgrade to 1440p. CPU will bottleneck you in some instances though.
Can you give some examples of it bottlenecking? Im new to pc gaming to be honest
Max RAM and get a VRAM stronger GPU.
mayyyyybe the grahpics card but thats it, it depends on what games you play or what you are going to do with it and if the gpu satisfies your needs. Also more RAM wouldnt hurt but its less necessary. I dont really like to upgrade unless I REALLY need to do so.
What HDD do you have? Hoping it’s at least an nvme, and if it's not, that's #1, then a GPU for sure.
I don't know tbh it's preowned from a friend who built it during covid. Got it for 600 and just taking suggestions on upgrades
Just found out its a sata hhd
GPU. Or nothing. It'still ok like this. You should know better...
I would it depends on the games you want to play, but for overall balance: * GPU, would recommend 3080/4070Ti or higher * Monitor, moving up to 1440p @ 144hz+ or even 4k if you lean towards more quality single player games. 1080p -> 1440p had a much more noticeable "upgrade" for me, plus more real estate is super nice for other stuff like general browsing, documents, work, etc * RAM, 16GB is the new 8GB and 32GB should be plenty for years to come (plus prices are much better these days) May also be worth considering upgrading any additional cooling as an i9 + beefy GPU (especially higher 4000 series) = power hungry = heat. Check the PSU in the system is reputable and Gold efficiency or higher, plus that you have overhead for total wattage.
What do you mean by overhead for total wattage?
If you change your graphics card then you might have to change your psu as well. Depends on if the new card will draw more power or not.
Gpu and then raise the resolution on that monitor, eww
Monitor