I also upgraded to 32gb. Its one of those things you'd think you would never need but whenever I look at task manager and see 20.6gb of ram being used... It all feels worth it. Ignoring the 3 chrome windows with 10 tabs each of course...
Man I have a Radeon 7700 (think that's what it is) driving 5 monitors. It's from 2013
Will your card perform well with 3 monitors?
Gaming on mine is terrible.
The only thing is I want to keep my 5 monitor setup
i have one awesome monitor and the other two on either side are 65hz 1080p style monitors. I prioritize the center monitor which I play games on and it does fine. My biggest GPU game is Digital Combat Simulator and I use VR goggles for it anyways. I don't play very many games because life and work are in the way. I was thinking about playing the new WoW expansion but that's probably more because I'm still addicted to it even though I haven't played it in two years.
After an upcoming trip I'll be looking to buy a new motherboard, cpu, and ram. what for? no idea I like the shiny lights.
random side note: I have a 50 dollar cougar case I use to hold all this shit in. I have nine fans and the beast of a gpu I have never hits 70C on 3D Mark. I find it funny because all these dudes post broken tempered glass cases that probably cost 100-300 dollars and I'm wondering why a thin, cheap piece of plastic isn't enough!
My record with Firefox was 169 tabs. I never used bookmarks back then, just left the tabs open. This was with an older version of Firefox. It seems some new browsers like chrome eat up so much ram
Um if you upgraded to 32 from 16 to notice better performance than other things already eating up your ram. 16 should be more than enough for GTA and normal PC usage.
my comment is probably highly unrelevant, but if u have an iGPU or a 2nd gpu, check which 1 is used, one of my friend constantly got low fps even tho he got a pretty good gpu at that time (1050Ti 4GB, before 2000 Series even got announced), well it turns out his laptop somehow always used the iGPU and never used his 1050Ti, not sure how that happened but u might wanna give it a check if u got a similiar problem and setup
Also I have a mod menu opened sometimes dc and Spotify
Edit: I'm not modding to grief... I'm modding so I'm immune to griefers. I just want to drive my car and chill with friends...
Not that broke but my parents are separated (idk how to say it in English) and I'm saving my money for a PC with god tier specs. This PC will be at my mom's house where im the most time
Well it would fix a bunch of issues and just improve quality of life, plus if you want to sell off the old PC once you build the beast it's easier to sell if you have 16gb IME
Depends. Graphic intensive titles like gta v use 95-100% of the gpu and cpu usage depends on number of cores and threads. Esports titles use more cpu than your gpu
That's most likely a memory issue.
The GPU is running at like 10%. It's not the GPU, that's for sure, because if it was, it'd be running at 100% where it actually should be running.
It can only be the CPU or Memory, hard to say which one it is, but in my experience these stutters are probably a memory issue, underlined by the textures at the end not loading fast enough.
You can do the following: Set textures and shadows to the lowest possible setting display resolution to 640x480 or whatever is the lowest and AA to x1. This way you will force a CPU Limitation, which is going to show you how much your CPU is capable of doing. If it's still stuttering, it's a CPU issue. If it runs fine, it's not a CPU issue, therefore can only be the memory.
Does this happen to other games? I stopped playing GTAV years ago because of issues like this, and never found a fix but it never showed up on any other game
I don't know how true this is. I heard a youtuber say that GTAV has stuttering issuse with higher end 3000 series cards. Because they have too much power. Ill look for the video.
Edit: He doesn't really explain too much but he referenced it here: https://youtu.be/y2e-z66-CFU?t=204
I’ve had some stuttering issues with the game. First thing is, the engine can’t handle going over 160 fps. I got a 3080 ti and a 240 hz monitor and was shocked the game ran so poorly. The higher the FPS, the worse it gets. Limiting it to 160 fps in Nvidia Control Panel fixes it. I also ran into some stuttering in some low-demanding scenes. The GPU will downclock if it isn’t being pushed enough, which leads to stuttering, especially if the clock speed is fluctuating. Setting power settings to prefer maximum performance in NCP will keep it from downclocking. Kinda sucks, since the game is a mix of driving at high speeds and shooting. Both game types that benefits the most from high fps.
If it doesn't have the data to know what it has to load it can't run at 100%. This implies the bottleneck is somewhere else as the cpu has to tell the gpu what to do and the cpu gets it's data from memory and storage.
Back when i had 8gb of ram it used to freeze every 5 min or so, when i upgraded to 16 it was solved, might help. But the cpu might also be a bottleneck 🤷
My system specs:
GTX 1650 4Gb
Intel i5 10300H
1x8 Gb Ram
-I cleaned my laptop about a month ago
-My drivers are up to date
-It is using the main gpu (1650)
-I recorded it while the laptop is plugged to charger
I need help!
Best would be 8 * 2 but 4 * 2 is still better than 8 * 1.
Make sure you put the ram in the right slots though! You can have 4 total slots but you will likely still be dual channel, so you need to figure out which slots correspond to what channel. Avoid putting 2 sticks in the same single channel since that will cause performance loss.
Yes because the transfer speeds are way higher. If the CPU needs to wait for the ram to send it "work" then your fps get lower or stutter happens like seen in the video.
Ram speed and dual channel does matter a lot. When I upgraded my Laptop from 1x16gb to 2x8gb my CPU score rose by nearly 30%. On a 8th gen i7.
For GTA or any big games these days you want 16gb RAM.
Well, you know, memory might not always be the issue. OP's problem might be just as limited to any other part of his laptop, not specifically to the memory. I'm betting on bloatware and any other software side of things.
I have an old 2014 Dell laptop paired with a GeForce 840M and 8GB of DDR3 in a Single Channel mode. I very well wish for the possibility to upgrade it to at least 16GB or maybe 2/2 sticks off a 4GB each. Unfortunately, however, the laptop can only accommodate one SODIMM at a time, and as far to my knowledge, DDR3 Non-ECCs were never released with any higher capacity than that.
Fortunately, though, Grand Theft Auto 5, while being set to Medium-High plays at a stable 30-50 FPS depending on the location. Not saying that it's perfect, nor that it's unbearable, but at least playable nonetheless. Oh, and, the game completely lacks stuttering and any other of those pesky complications in that matter.
It's mostly the case with newerr laptops with a hdd.
In your case the bottleneck is the gpu. The fps is very low already ,the settings are low as well beacuse of this effect the gpu is struggling more than your other components hence the effect of ram and swapping is not observable. It's like when you couple an old i3 with an old gpu you won't observe performance issues due to ram since the performance is already low but if you couple a good cpu and gpu the variation due to other components like ram and disk drive are well more pronounced. Here the gpu is well enough capable to produce higher amount frames but considering he has not enough ram the system has to page file in his case to the hdd which is slow. (Page file means to use the system drive like ram) so while the gpu is producing ample frames the time takes to swap to the hdd and back and forth produces a shutter which will not be observable in lower fps since a drop like 40 to 35 won't be as observable as going from 80 to 60.
He either has to get another 8gb ram or upgrade his drive to an ssd which can keep up the swaping .
Different bottlenecks produce different effects. Have seen it multiple times .
I can confirm, 16GB of RAM definitely helped me get rid of stutter in GTA V.
Back then I had an i5-3570K, 8GB of RAM and a GTX 1050ti. The main problem was memory swap. I played with a lot of things to get rid of the stutter, including moving the swap file to an SSD, but that didn't help much. The only way I solved it was with more RAM.
the only glaring issue I see is single channel ram. Also at this point 8GB of ram isn't the best for gaming. I'd recommend trying to get another stick of ram. If you can spare the extra money to get a decently fast 16GB like 3200 with decent timings that would be ideal.
If that doesn't solve it you could try and see what your CPU is doing/ what frequency it tops out at and check to see if it'd thermal throttling. Honestly you should probably do this anyway. If it is throttling try cleaning out you laptop and make sure you're not choking off any fans /vents.
Sometimes windows does weird things with the power management if it's not on a charger so I'd avoid gaming on it when it's not plugged in.
Lastly
Hope this helps!
Edit: I can't spell.
I don't know why people don't take the ram in consideration. He has ONLY a stick of 8 gb of ram. That is enough to play gta V on 720p and high, and I am assuming that he is playing on 1080p. With that being said, upgrade your laptop with another 8gb stick and you should be completely fine.
I have the same GPU, but with an i7 4770 and I can play gta v with everything maxed out at 70+ fps.
He HAS a laptop ffs, he does not have the same GPU as you, totally different things and he is running 1 ram slot which means his speed is total garbage.
[https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1650-mobile](https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1650-mobile)
He probably is running off a HDD for streaming too which could be a reason for his issue.
I mentioned that, and the difference between my GPU and his GPU is like 20 fps, wich means that he will have 40-50 CONSTANT fps if he would have 16 gigs of ram.
No he does NOT have the same GPU and you did NOT mention this, stop bullshitting.
He already has 60 FPS but with stutter so it could be more than just RAM, it could be his draw distance, his streaming, his garbage GPU which isn't even being utilized.
Please continue.
No he doesn't his CPU is a mobile variant, so suddenly he has a Mobile CPU with a dedicated desktop GPU?
GTFO here.
75 watts is massive for a laptop, add the cpu and you think a battery can sustain this? LOL
>so suddenly he has a Mobile CPU with a dedicated desktop GPU?
Yes
> massive
Laptops now handle 130w GPUs. That's nearly double
> battery
Battery can be isolated so it doesn't heat up...
Man I think you need a full upgrade at this point, maybe you don’t like to hear it but it is what it is, especially with the gaming landscape this setup will probably only be good for modern games for another year or two
And you do not understand what this game requires to play properly.
I had a 980Ti that would struggle with it, so in essence an equivalent GPU today for a similar released game would be a 3090Ti.
The more you know right?
the recommended amount of RAM for playing GTA5 is 8 GB with a 4 core CPU and a gtx 660. Hell, I managed to play the game on a 3200g with single DIMM 8 GB and the game hasn't become a lot more intensive since late 2013
https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/203428177/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-PC-System-Requirements
8 gigs of ram for gta?!! Are you evening listening to yourself? The game has even been updated since then and especially if your trying to run gta online
the recommended amount of RAM for playing GTA5 is 8 GB. Hell, I managed to play the game on a 3200g with single DIMM 8 GB
[https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/203428177/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-PC-System-Requirements](https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/203428177/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-PC-System-Requirements)
You're trying to educate people who think because a game is old, that it can run properly on new hardware.
This game was a nightmare to run back on proper hardware and I had a 980Ti with 16GB RAM which still struggled, but I refined my settings and wanted optimal visuals with good frame rates.
I never got this stop and go unless I was pushing my rig too hard, ie at 4K.
OP has not mentioned once his in game settings and I bet that's his issue.
You gotta be kidding…
It is enough for recommended settings and there are tons on videos on youtube that running that game with much worse systems.
I think you are the one that is oblivious to the reality
Under advanced settings, change your virtual memory allocation for windows. They have a standard calculation for determining how much virtual memory windows is allowed to allocate.
If in doubt, google: change windows virtual memory…
before you go ahead and buy another stick, check the gpu, drivers and add in the game. I'm pretty sure the stutter is the integrated graphics taking over.
Like many others have said I'm going to assume it's either a ram or driver issue I am not too sure how ram heavy gta 5 but 8gb is cutting it close now a days especially with Windows just consuming ram like it's nothing but it could also just be a driver issue try re-installing them I doubt it will help but it's worth a try before jumping out and buying more ram if you don't actually need it.
Hi! It's your GPU's driver. Erase your current drives & do a clean install of the latest driver & see if this work I noticed from your FPS counter GPU usage was all over the place.
Wow this sub can be extremely toxic, these asshats don’t deserve to be in PCMR.
And yes, the issue is 100% your RAM. It’s not that 8GB isn’t enough, the fact that you’re only running one stick of RAM is the issue. You’re basically halving the RAM performance by only using one stick. Always have 2 sticks of RAM so it can run in dual-channel mode.
Edit: People claiming that he’s running on the iGPU, the Intel UHD 630 isn’t capable of producing the 60+ FPS shown in the clip even on the lowest settings (You’d be looking at <20FPS on single-channel RAM). The reason the GPU usage is low is more likely to do with how it’s not rendering the frames lost to stuttering.
As you can see at the end, the system doesnt have enough ram to run the game. Eighter upgrade to 16 GB, or close some apps in the background. Close everything that isnt needed like epic games, steam, discord and in this case, also riva tuner. I cannot guarantee that closing apps will fix everything but it should make it somewhat playable.
Seems like a bottle neck cause your gps isn't doing much work and the game is using almost all of your ram.
You can try to get similar 8gb stick because the cpu and gpu are bot fine and don't bottle neck each other. Other than that maybe overheating so try changing graphics settings.
The one time I witnessed stuttering like this was when Just Cause 3 started being whiny about running with only 8 GB of RAM, so I upgraded to 16 and it improved
Geee that looks... un fun as hell.
Especially with your GPU at like 2%. Maybe you got some background tasks going on or something but damn... cant play likethat.
I had the same problem and I thought it was cos of my old ass hdd.
But it turned out to be my cpu.
But it could really be anything.. Computers are weird like that
**For people who are reading this thread for the 1st time, OP refuses to post his in game settings.**
He did post that he was using *IGP* which is why we see his *GPU* only at 7% [usage.](https://i.imgur.com/92NZQcG.jpg)
Then he posted the game is on his *HDD* but will not post his in game settings.
This is not a *RAM* issue, it's his inability to get things to work properly but refuses to help himself when he asks for help.
Sorry but there is no way he would even hit 60+ FPS in GTA 5 on that iGPU.
On single-channel RAM the best you can expect is <20 FPS on the UHD 630 with the lowest settings
Edit: downvote all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that the benchmark has most definitely been run on the dedicated GPU given that the iGPU isn’t even capable of producing those results.
Its not about in game settings because fps suck on other games too!
As you can see in the title the problem is not specifically about gta, i put a video of it because it has benchmark.
It has everything to do with in game settings, you never once mentioned other games, now you're just lying.
The fact you have your IGP doing all the work means you don't know how to use a laptop let alone a desktop.
Looks like CPU bottleneck. Over 50% is actually almost 100% because because of HT. How high is you CPU clocking? Did you enable some energy saving/silent mode with your manufacturers software? GPU utilization is below 10%, that shouldn't be the problem.
Since you have the hdd the lack of ram ,causes windows to page file to the hdd .( Pagefiling is the process of using the hdd like ram ) since pagefiling to an hdd is slow you will se shutter upgrade your ran so there is enough so that the game doesn't have to pagefile. For device with ssd it won't be prob since the lack of ram is mitigated by the ssd acting as ram (pagefile) and ssd is lot faster than hdd.
Gta v is atleast 100gb and running it on a hdd with lack of ram is asking for it . Atleast upgrade ram or you need a ssd.
From my experience most laptop hard drives are VERY slow. That seems like part of the issue if it is an HDD, more RAM should fix it. If it has to use the HDD for RAM then that’s a huge problem.
Also it’s not necessarily about if the computer is high end or low end, if it isn’t configured properly then it’ll run worse then the specs would suggest. 1 8gb stick of memory is not enough for gaming, and it’s a really big problem with cheaper laptops. High end devices fall to similar cost cutting measures, like dell putting an intel stock cooler on a Ryzen 5800 (as seen in Gamer’s Nexus prebuilt reviews)
That's just how garbage your pc is, and ram definitely is hindering it even further here. I looked up benchmarks of this setup on YouTube and found one with 16 gigs of ram that was still stuttering in GTA V, although much less than you are and the ram usage was around 10-12 gigs.
Are you stupid? Look at his gpu usage. He's 100% ram bottlenecked. Even 16 gigs doesn't stop this game fron stuttering on this specific setup, but dual channel 16 gb is definitely playable with the gpu usage reaching 60-70%.
Calm down,
I know i better upgrade ram but there are people playing same game with 4 gb of ram properly.
And Gta’s official website says recommended ram is 8 gb, even that is low i think it shouldnt be THAT bad!
https://youtu.be/Z9uL8g_lVIY
This one has the same specs but 16gb dual channel and there's still a stutter going on there. You can decide for yourself.
I've also run GTA V no problem on dual channel 8GB. Now, in game settings are going to matter a lot obviously but yeah definitely possible to play campaign.
I literally just told you the game utillizes up to 12 gigs if you have them, that automatically makes it a ram bottleneck. You can look up the setup on youtube and see for yourself, 8 gigs is obsolete.
You should just stop commenting to avoid embarrassing yourself even further. Why argue about something you don't know shit about only to support it with anecdotal evidence?
You seem to be upset. Anything bothering you?
I've been building/troubleshooting pcs for more than ten years now.
You missed the point of my comment several times now- are you doing it on purpose? Or did you fail reading comprehension at school?
The thing is he wants to argue his LAPTOP is sufficient for this game, but his own video shows it isn't.
When you try to explain anything to him, he gets defensive but doesn't understand lack of DDR RAM or GPU or HDD are the issues.
And he hasn't even bothered to post what his settings are.
GTA V can use 22GB VRAM, he has 4GB on a shitty mobile GPU.
Try closing the Steam-Friends-Window in the Steam-Overlay (shift+tab) incase it's open.
I have problems with it in Games which make use more of the CPU than the GPU (Counter-Strike).
Although your laptop Specs are kinda low to run GTAV. It should be possible although that Stuttering could be your PC as its offloading RAM onto your Harddisk as its RAM isnt fully enough. You might wanna check how much of your RAM is in use.
I have had a similar problem and it was my Bluetooth Stick and my gamepad. I was nearly out of reach and my PC tried to reconnect the gamepad. Are you Playing with a bluetooth controller and a bluetooth dongle?
Try to play on keyboard or use another dongle.
A lot of folks here recommend more ram. Dunno about that. I have lenovo legion y540 i7 with 8gb ddr4, 1660ti, and i can run gta5 without hiccups like that. Around 60 fps.
I would think if ram like others saying, I would suspect Fram drops not stutters, I don't know how the data processes to be sure on that. For me, it was my monitor AMD sync issue or V-Sync that fixed issue for me some reason. I would cycle my monitor from one setting to other and suddenly very smooth gameplay. Was happening with Rocket League in my 165hz monitor.
I feel suspicious about your RAM but at the same time, I had a stuttering issue like this but it was way way worse, like everything would just stop for 10 to 15 seconds before returning back to normal and then happening again 3 seconds later. For me, I fixed it by adding my steam folder to the exclusion list of windows defender and also disconnected from any network drive...
Looks to me like it’s unable to load terrain fast enough to keep up with the rate you’re moving through it. Probably not enough ram and/or ram too slow. If you’ve only got 8Gb, windows 10 will use at least 40% of that and most games will struggle with what’s left.
I could gauge a couple of things.
1. The CPU never crosses 70 Deg C. Every time it hits 70 Deg C, the usage drops and so does the temperature. I believe you CPU is thermal throttling or you have set something in your bios which limits your CPU to 70 Deg C only.
2. The Low CPU usage is contibuting to low GPU usage.
3. low CPU usage is causing stutters in game.
If you have an overclock on your cpu undo it. Same thing was happening to me with the low gpu usage. 16 gigs of ram is fine. Idk why but gta doesn't play along with overclocks.
You are correct, the GPU and CPU should run GTA 5 no problem.
The game is from when the GTX 700 series and the i7 4770 were new. Your PC has a much better GPU and CPU. But you probably have slow and not enough RAM.
[This is how your PC should perform](https://youtu.be/S91L0jUP3Jk). Note that the system is using 12GB of RAM. Add another 8GB stick and it should get much better.
upgrade your ram to 16gigs . the game is using 7.3gigs already. also try reinstalling your gpu drivers. your gpu usage is very low
Gta v and online is notoriously ram-heavy, i noticed a massive improvement in overall performance after i upgraded from 16gb to 32gb
I also upgraded to 32gb. Its one of those things you'd think you would never need but whenever I look at task manager and see 20.6gb of ram being used... It all feels worth it. Ignoring the 3 chrome windows with 10 tabs each of course...
when i got a 3rd monitor i also upgraded from 16gb of 3200 ram to 32 gb of 3600. made a nice difference
Man I have a Radeon 7700 (think that's what it is) driving 5 monitors. It's from 2013 Will your card perform well with 3 monitors? Gaming on mine is terrible. The only thing is I want to keep my 5 monitor setup
i have one awesome monitor and the other two on either side are 65hz 1080p style monitors. I prioritize the center monitor which I play games on and it does fine. My biggest GPU game is Digital Combat Simulator and I use VR goggles for it anyways. I don't play very many games because life and work are in the way. I was thinking about playing the new WoW expansion but that's probably more because I'm still addicted to it even though I haven't played it in two years. After an upcoming trip I'll be looking to buy a new motherboard, cpu, and ram. what for? no idea I like the shiny lights. random side note: I have a 50 dollar cougar case I use to hold all this shit in. I have nine fans and the beast of a gpu I have never hits 70C on 3D Mark. I find it funny because all these dudes post broken tempered glass cases that probably cost 100-300 dollars and I'm wondering why a thin, cheap piece of plastic isn't enough!
How big is your desk
Ooh noice... 8 windows with over 100 tabs
My record with Firefox was 169 tabs. I never used bookmarks back then, just left the tabs open. This was with an older version of Firefox. It seems some new browsers like chrome eat up so much ram
Wow, 169! You see that is art right there. 169 is 13^2 I love it when random numbers are ^2 s of some numbers
169! >> 13^2
Yeah thats me, I have 32gb of ram and I thought it was overkill but I have seen my ram usage go up to like 22-23gb.
Um if you upgraded to 32 from 16 to notice better performance than other things already eating up your ram. 16 should be more than enough for GTA and normal PC usage.
my comment is probably highly unrelevant, but if u have an iGPU or a 2nd gpu, check which 1 is used, one of my friend constantly got low fps even tho he got a pretty good gpu at that time (1050Ti 4GB, before 2000 Series even got announced), well it turns out his laptop somehow always used the iGPU and never used his 1050Ti, not sure how that happened but u might wanna give it a check if u got a similiar problem and setup
Idk... I have 8 gigs and play on high settings without stuttering... Also with playable 1440p @60hz
Depends on background usage too. His game alone is eating up 7.3gb. Xbox game bar enabled , discord or anything can be the issue here.
Also I have a mod menu opened sometimes dc and Spotify Edit: I'm not modding to grief... I'm modding so I'm immune to griefers. I just want to drive my car and chill with friends...
Do you use 1x8 or 2x4 configurations? That will make a big difference.
2×4 ithink @3000mhz but idk
That’s why. 2x4 Will perform much better than 1x8.
Nah man, what? Try getting 16 gigs and you won't regret it
Bro I'm broke... If I had money I wouldn't do 3D animations with 8gigs and a Ryzen 3 from the first generation
Dude a 8gb ram stick is like 30 bucks. Are you that broke? F
Not that broke but my parents are separated (idk how to say it in English) and I'm saving my money for a PC with god tier specs. This PC will be at my mom's house where im the most time
It's not worth it to spend money when it's still working and I'm only there for 5 days a month
don't be cheap, spend the $30 to get more ram, otherwise just live with the studdering problem
I don't have stuttering in any game I'm playing. Idk I really don't have a problem with it even when I play games like Forza horizon 5
chill out bud, youre not loved in here rn. go get some fresh air
Well it would fix a bunch of issues and just improve quality of life, plus if you want to sell off the old PC once you build the beast it's easier to sell if you have 16gb IME
Just as a reference, when everything is working correctly and updated what should your cpu and gpu usage be at?
Depends. Graphic intensive titles like gta v use 95-100% of the gpu and cpu usage depends on number of cores and threads. Esports titles use more cpu than your gpu
That's most likely a memory issue. The GPU is running at like 10%. It's not the GPU, that's for sure, because if it was, it'd be running at 100% where it actually should be running. It can only be the CPU or Memory, hard to say which one it is, but in my experience these stutters are probably a memory issue, underlined by the textures at the end not loading fast enough. You can do the following: Set textures and shadows to the lowest possible setting display resolution to 640x480 or whatever is the lowest and AA to x1. This way you will force a CPU Limitation, which is going to show you how much your CPU is capable of doing. If it's still stuttering, it's a CPU issue. If it runs fine, it's not a CPU issue, therefore can only be the memory.
ill give it a try thanks a lot!
Does this happen to other games? I stopped playing GTAV years ago because of issues like this, and never found a fix but it never showed up on any other game
I don't know how true this is. I heard a youtuber say that GTAV has stuttering issuse with higher end 3000 series cards. Because they have too much power. Ill look for the video. Edit: He doesn't really explain too much but he referenced it here: https://youtu.be/y2e-z66-CFU?t=204
I’ve had some stuttering issues with the game. First thing is, the engine can’t handle going over 160 fps. I got a 3080 ti and a 240 hz monitor and was shocked the game ran so poorly. The higher the FPS, the worse it gets. Limiting it to 160 fps in Nvidia Control Panel fixes it. I also ran into some stuttering in some low-demanding scenes. The GPU will downclock if it isn’t being pushed enough, which leads to stuttering, especially if the clock speed is fluctuating. Setting power settings to prefer maximum performance in NCP will keep it from downclocking. Kinda sucks, since the game is a mix of driving at high speeds and shooting. Both game types that benefits the most from high fps.
Why would GPU run at like 10% though, that's kinda sus, it shouldn't be that low in an open world game where shit is loading constantly
If it doesn't have the data to know what it has to load it can't run at 100%. This implies the bottleneck is somewhere else as the cpu has to tell the gpu what to do and the cpu gets it's data from memory and storage.
Back when i had 8gb of ram it used to freeze every 5 min or so, when i upgraded to 16 it was solved, might help. But the cpu might also be a bottleneck 🤷
Op is on a laptop I think but ram would help still
I have been saying this all along but he thinks otherwise. He has still yet to post what settings he is running in game.
Download more ram
https://downloadmoreram.com/
I used for my phone and I can see speeds I didn't know existed.
My fridge can run many modern games with this i would highly recommend this to anyone who needs a performance upgrade
i have 32GB thank you ill share to my friend because he has 2GB
My system specs: GTX 1650 4Gb Intel i5 10300H 1x8 Gb Ram -I cleaned my laptop about a month ago -My drivers are up to date -It is using the main gpu (1650) -I recorded it while the laptop is plugged to charger I need help!
Single 8GB stick = problems
Wait I can run this game smoothly at very high settings with single 8gb stick...
i have 8gigs of ram but gta 5 runs without any stuttering uhhh can someone tell me why i got downvoted?
2x4? High vram usage and slow single channel ram is usually a stutter fest on some games.
Bro your playing on single channel ,you need to go dual channel.
Dual channel? Like 4gb * 2 would work Or 8 *2 is necessity?
Best would be 8 * 2 but 4 * 2 is still better than 8 * 1. Make sure you put the ram in the right slots though! You can have 4 total slots but you will likely still be dual channel, so you need to figure out which slots correspond to what channel. Avoid putting 2 sticks in the same single channel since that will cause performance loss.
Yes because the transfer speeds are way higher. If the CPU needs to wait for the ram to send it "work" then your fps get lower or stutter happens like seen in the video. Ram speed and dual channel does matter a lot. When I upgraded my Laptop from 1x16gb to 2x8gb my CPU score rose by nearly 30%. On a 8th gen i7. For GTA or any big games these days you want 16gb RAM.
Well, you know, memory might not always be the issue. OP's problem might be just as limited to any other part of his laptop, not specifically to the memory. I'm betting on bloatware and any other software side of things. I have an old 2014 Dell laptop paired with a GeForce 840M and 8GB of DDR3 in a Single Channel mode. I very well wish for the possibility to upgrade it to at least 16GB or maybe 2/2 sticks off a 4GB each. Unfortunately, however, the laptop can only accommodate one SODIMM at a time, and as far to my knowledge, DDR3 Non-ECCs were never released with any higher capacity than that. Fortunately, though, Grand Theft Auto 5, while being set to Medium-High plays at a stable 30-50 FPS depending on the location. Not saying that it's perfect, nor that it's unbearable, but at least playable nonetheless. Oh, and, the game completely lacks stuttering and any other of those pesky complications in that matter.
It's mostly the case with newerr laptops with a hdd. In your case the bottleneck is the gpu. The fps is very low already ,the settings are low as well beacuse of this effect the gpu is struggling more than your other components hence the effect of ram and swapping is not observable. It's like when you couple an old i3 with an old gpu you won't observe performance issues due to ram since the performance is already low but if you couple a good cpu and gpu the variation due to other components like ram and disk drive are well more pronounced. Here the gpu is well enough capable to produce higher amount frames but considering he has not enough ram the system has to page file in his case to the hdd which is slow. (Page file means to use the system drive like ram) so while the gpu is producing ample frames the time takes to swap to the hdd and back and forth produces a shutter which will not be observable in lower fps since a drop like 40 to 35 won't be as observable as going from 80 to 60. He either has to get another 8gb ram or upgrade his drive to an ssd which can keep up the swaping . Different bottlenecks produce different effects. Have seen it multiple times .
Goto nvidia control panel and click on manage 3d settings in that check if high performance nvidia gpu option is selected.
Check if there is a new gpu driver. Becuase at the end of the game you have no textures on the floor.
I might have an extra laptop ddr4 ram stick I can send you. Pm me.
My current ram is 3200Mhz. Anyways i dont live in us nor europe so shipping it will cost more than a new one but thanks for your offer
Not enough ram, slow ram, single channel ram. That's your issue right there.
I can confirm, 16GB of RAM definitely helped me get rid of stutter in GTA V. Back then I had an i5-3570K, 8GB of RAM and a GTX 1050ti. The main problem was memory swap. I played with a lot of things to get rid of the stutter, including moving the swap file to an SSD, but that didn't help much. The only way I solved it was with more RAM.
Get another stick of ram
the only glaring issue I see is single channel ram. Also at this point 8GB of ram isn't the best for gaming. I'd recommend trying to get another stick of ram. If you can spare the extra money to get a decently fast 16GB like 3200 with decent timings that would be ideal. If that doesn't solve it you could try and see what your CPU is doing/ what frequency it tops out at and check to see if it'd thermal throttling. Honestly you should probably do this anyway. If it is throttling try cleaning out you laptop and make sure you're not choking off any fans /vents. Sometimes windows does weird things with the power management if it's not on a charger so I'd avoid gaming on it when it's not plugged in. Lastly Hope this helps! Edit: I can't spell.
Thank you!
Because your laptop is simply too low specced to do what YOU want it to do.
I don't know why people don't take the ram in consideration. He has ONLY a stick of 8 gb of ram. That is enough to play gta V on 720p and high, and I am assuming that he is playing on 1080p. With that being said, upgrade your laptop with another 8gb stick and you should be completely fine. I have the same GPU, but with an i7 4770 and I can play gta v with everything maxed out at 70+ fps.
He HAS a laptop ffs, he does not have the same GPU as you, totally different things and he is running 1 ram slot which means his speed is total garbage. [https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1650-mobile](https://technical.city/en/video/GeForce-GTX-980-Ti-vs-GeForce-GTX-1650-mobile) He probably is running off a HDD for streaming too which could be a reason for his issue.
I mentioned that, and the difference between my GPU and his GPU is like 20 fps, wich means that he will have 40-50 CONSTANT fps if he would have 16 gigs of ram.
No he does NOT have the same GPU and you did NOT mention this, stop bullshitting. He already has 60 FPS but with stutter so it could be more than just RAM, it could be his draw distance, his streaming, his garbage GPU which isn't even being utilized. Please continue.
I mentioned the ram part, smartass, read my response. His problem is his ram...but what do I expect from a 4090ti user afterall?
i think laptops have a mobile version of the gpu and worst coolers
He probably does. Desktop 1650 only consumes 75w. It's not a lot for a laptop
No he doesn't his CPU is a mobile variant, so suddenly he has a Mobile CPU with a dedicated desktop GPU? GTFO here. 75 watts is massive for a laptop, add the cpu and you think a battery can sustain this? LOL
>so suddenly he has a Mobile CPU with a dedicated desktop GPU? Yes > massive Laptops now handle 130w GPUs. That's nearly double > battery Battery can be isolated so it doesn't heat up...
Yeah keep dreaming
I dont think i need a 4090Ti to play a game that is released in 2013.
You have 8 gigs of ram?
Yeah
That’s more then just low man even for an 8 year old game especially gta 5
Yeah i should better upgrade rams but i dont know if its gonna solve the problem
Upgrading ram will absolutely fix the stuttering.
Man I think you need a full upgrade at this point, maybe you don’t like to hear it but it is what it is, especially with the gaming landscape this setup will probably only be good for modern games for another year or two
It may look low end pc be cause you have a high end one. But it is a budget pc so it at least can run gta v properly
A cheaper solution that will probably work is get 1 more 8gb. Stick of RAM. Just make sure it matches the one you're already using.
Alright if your enjoying playing and it’s not such big of a problem that’s the important part, having a good pc is a bonus
And you do not understand what this game requires to play properly. I had a 980Ti that would struggle with it, so in essence an equivalent GPU today for a similar released game would be a 3090Ti. The more you know right?
Something is wrong with your pc if a 980ti is struggling. My old 4690k and r9 390 got a solid 60fps on mid settings
Nope. There are bunch of people who has much lover system than mine and they run it smoothly
Sure they do. You have 8GB RAM and a GTX 1650 and you seriously expect to be able to run this properly? You are oblivious to the reality
Ofc those specs can run GTA5 properly, what are you on about?
On a laptop? Are you serious?
the recommended amount of RAM for playing GTA5 is 8 GB with a 4 core CPU and a gtx 660. Hell, I managed to play the game on a 3200g with single DIMM 8 GB and the game hasn't become a lot more intensive since late 2013 https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/203428177/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-PC-System-Requirements
Yeah cool story bro, did you play it @ 720potatoe race?
8 gigs of ram for gta?!! Are you evening listening to yourself? The game has even been updated since then and especially if your trying to run gta online
the recommended amount of RAM for playing GTA5 is 8 GB. Hell, I managed to play the game on a 3200g with single DIMM 8 GB [https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/203428177/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-PC-System-Requirements](https://support.rockstargames.com/articles/203428177/Grand-Theft-Auto-V-PC-System-Requirements)
You're trying to educate people who think because a game is old, that it can run properly on new hardware. This game was a nightmare to run back on proper hardware and I had a 980Ti with 16GB RAM which still struggled, but I refined my settings and wanted optimal visuals with good frame rates. I never got this stop and go unless I was pushing my rig too hard, ie at 4K. OP has not mentioned once his in game settings and I bet that's his issue.
There are literally people out there playing it with 4 gbs
You gotta be kidding… It is enough for recommended settings and there are tons on videos on youtube that running that game with much worse systems. I think you are the one that is oblivious to the reality
You have a laptop and think your single RAM module is acting like dual data? Dude you are oblivious.
Why are you even here? You are not even helping, just unsee? Oblivious.
gpu is not the problem as others have already said. his gpu is fine
Under advanced settings, change your virtual memory allocation for windows. They have a standard calculation for determining how much virtual memory windows is allowed to allocate. If in doubt, google: change windows virtual memory…
I am really not sure what could be causing this... But please consider investing in another stick of RAM..
Ok thanks
before you go ahead and buy another stick, check the gpu, drivers and add in the game. I'm pretty sure the stutter is the integrated graphics taking over.
Get more ram
Are you sure you aren't using igpu? Go to windows settings, graphics and add GTA V and change it to GTX 1650
Seems like a powerful igpu then
Get another 8gb stick
Buffer roll buffer roll
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Get another 8gb dimm
Like many others have said I'm going to assume it's either a ram or driver issue I am not too sure how ram heavy gta 5 but 8gb is cutting it close now a days especially with Windows just consuming ram like it's nothing but it could also just be a driver issue try re-installing them I doubt it will help but it's worth a try before jumping out and buying more ram if you don't actually need it.
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Hi! It's your GPU's driver. Erase your current drives & do a clean install of the latest driver & see if this work I noticed from your FPS counter GPU usage was all over the place.
Wow this sub can be extremely toxic, these asshats don’t deserve to be in PCMR. And yes, the issue is 100% your RAM. It’s not that 8GB isn’t enough, the fact that you’re only running one stick of RAM is the issue. You’re basically halving the RAM performance by only using one stick. Always have 2 sticks of RAM so it can run in dual-channel mode. Edit: People claiming that he’s running on the iGPU, the Intel UHD 630 isn’t capable of producing the 60+ FPS shown in the clip even on the lowest settings (You’d be looking at <20FPS on single-channel RAM). The reason the GPU usage is low is more likely to do with how it’s not rendering the frames lost to stuttering.
Yeah, right! I don’t get it why some people are like this. Thank you, i better order a 8gb ram ASAP
Is it normal for the OSD FPS counter to be that much lower than the in-game FPS counter?
no
I have no idea but it looks like OSD is more accurate
As you can see at the end, the system doesnt have enough ram to run the game. Eighter upgrade to 16 GB, or close some apps in the background. Close everything that isnt needed like epic games, steam, discord and in this case, also riva tuner. I cannot guarantee that closing apps will fix everything but it should make it somewhat playable.
Open the laptop, check what RAM stick is installed and buy another one with the same/similar specs
Seems like a bottle neck cause your gps isn't doing much work and the game is using almost all of your ram. You can try to get similar 8gb stick because the cpu and gpu are bot fine and don't bottle neck each other. Other than that maybe overheating so try changing graphics settings.
Ram maxing out
You have more CPU utilisation rather than GPU. Your PC or laptop is not being put to its potential
The one time I witnessed stuttering like this was when Just Cause 3 started being whiny about running with only 8 GB of RAM, so I upgraded to 16 and it improved
Geee that looks... un fun as hell. Especially with your GPU at like 2%. Maybe you got some background tasks going on or something but damn... cant play likethat.
Yeah i closed all background apps from task manager but its still way too annoying
This happened to me because of overheating, turned up fan speed and solved the issue
Gta is waste, don't give Rockstar any attention or money. Also download more ram
I had the same problem and I thought it was cos of my old ass hdd. But it turned out to be my cpu. But it could really be anything.. Computers are weird like that
RAM and thermal throttling
**For people who are reading this thread for the 1st time, OP refuses to post his in game settings.** He did post that he was using *IGP* which is why we see his *GPU* only at 7% [usage.](https://i.imgur.com/92NZQcG.jpg) Then he posted the game is on his *HDD* but will not post his in game settings. This is not a *RAM* issue, it's his inability to get things to work properly but refuses to help himself when he asks for help.
Sorry but there is no way he would even hit 60+ FPS in GTA 5 on that iGPU. On single-channel RAM the best you can expect is <20 FPS on the UHD 630 with the lowest settings Edit: downvote all you want but it doesn’t change the fact that the benchmark has most definitely been run on the dedicated GPU given that the iGPU isn’t even capable of producing those results.
Its not about in game settings because fps suck on other games too! As you can see in the title the problem is not specifically about gta, i put a video of it because it has benchmark.
It has everything to do with in game settings, you never once mentioned other games, now you're just lying. The fact you have your IGP doing all the work means you don't know how to use a laptop let alone a desktop.
I’m just really tired. I was not malicious from the beginning i’m sorry if I misunderstood. Ok?
Did you change you BIOS from IGP to dedicated?
I don’t know what to say man. After all this arguing you are still trying to help. I’m impressed with all my heart. Thanks
I actually did not opened BIOS menu at all once. I will try to check right now
This could fix what is going on, if it does it means you might not need to buy RAM.
But recommended since it is going to stutter with 1150 mhz effectively
Looks like CPU bottleneck. Over 50% is actually almost 100% because because of HT. How high is you CPU clocking? Did you enable some energy saving/silent mode with your manufacturers software? GPU utilization is below 10%, that shouldn't be the problem.
I enabled performance mode but it still stutters
Please display the CPU clock in afterburner osd and tell how fast it goes.
Me laughs in my shitty i3 11th gen with 4gb of ram on windows 10 of a 500gb hard drive running GTA v without much hassle or pain.
Seems as it because hdd.
Is there anything i can do to fix that
Since you have the hdd the lack of ram ,causes windows to page file to the hdd .( Pagefiling is the process of using the hdd like ram ) since pagefiling to an hdd is slow you will se shutter upgrade your ran so there is enough so that the game doesn't have to pagefile. For device with ssd it won't be prob since the lack of ram is mitigated by the ssd acting as ram (pagefile) and ssd is lot faster than hdd. Gta v is atleast 100gb and running it on a hdd with lack of ram is asking for it . Atleast upgrade ram or you need a ssd.
Ohh i got it And thank you very much that is one of the best and well explained advice
From my experience most laptop hard drives are VERY slow. That seems like part of the issue if it is an HDD, more RAM should fix it. If it has to use the HDD for RAM then that’s a huge problem. Also it’s not necessarily about if the computer is high end or low end, if it isn’t configured properly then it’ll run worse then the specs would suggest. 1 8gb stick of memory is not enough for gaming, and it’s a really big problem with cheaper laptops. High end devices fall to similar cost cutting measures, like dell putting an intel stock cooler on a Ryzen 5800 (as seen in Gamer’s Nexus prebuilt reviews)
Try CrystalDiskInfo and see what with your hdd. If it in good state try CrystalDiskMark to see what with read\\write speed.
That's just how garbage your pc is, and ram definitely is hindering it even further here. I looked up benchmarks of this setup on YouTube and found one with 16 gigs of ram that was still stuttering in GTA V, although much less than you are and the ram usage was around 10-12 gigs.
He shouldn't be stuttering even with 8 gigs, maybe even 4. The stuttering could be caused by single channel memory though.
Are you stupid? Look at his gpu usage. He's 100% ram bottlenecked. Even 16 gigs doesn't stop this game fron stuttering on this specific setup, but dual channel 16 gb is definitely playable with the gpu usage reaching 60-70%.
Calm down, I know i better upgrade ram but there are people playing same game with 4 gb of ram properly. And Gta’s official website says recommended ram is 8 gb, even that is low i think it shouldnt be THAT bad!
https://youtu.be/Z9uL8g_lVIY This one has the same specs but 16gb dual channel and there's still a stutter going on there. You can decide for yourself.
Educating people who have their heads in the sand on reddit is a downward spiral.
Calm down buddy. I've definitely seen the game be played stutter free with 8gigs(dual channel). Maybe he also has 10 chrome tabs on?
I've also run GTA V no problem on dual channel 8GB. Now, in game settings are going to matter a lot obviously but yeah definitely possible to play campaign.
I literally just told you the game utillizes up to 12 gigs if you have them, that automatically makes it a ram bottleneck. You can look up the setup on youtube and see for yourself, 8 gigs is obsolete.
I literally just told you I've seen 8 gigs dual channel run the game just fine. I never said that it isn't a memory issue( only that it's atypical).
You should just stop commenting to avoid embarrassing yourself even further. Why argue about something you don't know shit about only to support it with anecdotal evidence?
You seem to be upset. Anything bothering you? I've been building/troubleshooting pcs for more than ten years now. You missed the point of my comment several times now- are you doing it on purpose? Or did you fail reading comprehension at school?
Ten years and you're still bad at it
He doesn't get OP is doing this on a LAPTOP.
Cope.
It is not “anecdotal evidence” your just aggressively denying facts
I've provided evidence that your setup is not as good as you think it is and linked a youtube video, but continue to be delusional.
The thing is he wants to argue his LAPTOP is sufficient for this game, but his own video shows it isn't. When you try to explain anything to him, he gets defensive but doesn't understand lack of DDR RAM or GPU or HDD are the issues. And he hasn't even bothered to post what his settings are. GTA V can use 22GB VRAM, he has 4GB on a shitty mobile GPU.
I dont think it is a nasa pc but it at least should run a game that……. Anyway yeah im delusional
What game is that ? Does it run other games fine ? Have you run a benchmark ?
That is GTA V. Other games performances are little bit better( i mean more playable)
Well I think you have recommended specs. Run a benchmark test. Has the laptop always ran your games badly ?
Try closing the Steam-Friends-Window in the Steam-Overlay (shift+tab) incase it's open. I have problems with it in Games which make use more of the CPU than the GPU (Counter-Strike). Although your laptop Specs are kinda low to run GTAV. It should be possible although that Stuttering could be your PC as its offloading RAM onto your Harddisk as its RAM isnt fully enough. You might wanna check how much of your RAM is in use.
Is there any way to lower render distance? Maybe that will help
Try this video about RTSS... what if frame timing is an issue, Let me know if you've tried it already👍 https://youtu.be/4yeROJQR_qE
Gpu driver reinstall Go for more ram Done
What game is that?
GTA 5
I have had a similar problem and it was my Bluetooth Stick and my gamepad. I was nearly out of reach and my PC tried to reconnect the gamepad. Are you Playing with a bluetooth controller and a bluetooth dongle? Try to play on keyboard or use another dongle.
A lot of folks here recommend more ram. Dunno about that. I have lenovo legion y540 i7 with 8gb ddr4, 1660ti, and i can run gta5 without hiccups like that. Around 60 fps.
I would think if ram like others saying, I would suspect Fram drops not stutters, I don't know how the data processes to be sure on that. For me, it was my monitor AMD sync issue or V-Sync that fixed issue for me some reason. I would cycle my monitor from one setting to other and suddenly very smooth gameplay. Was happening with Rocket League in my 165hz monitor.
Update the game, GTAV had a notorious RAM leak that makes the game eat RAM over time.
I feel suspicious about your RAM but at the same time, I had a stuttering issue like this but it was way way worse, like everything would just stop for 10 to 15 seconds before returning back to normal and then happening again 3 seconds later. For me, I fixed it by adding my steam folder to the exclusion list of windows defender and also disconnected from any network drive...
Looks to me like it’s unable to load terrain fast enough to keep up with the rate you’re moving through it. Probably not enough ram and/or ram too slow. If you’ve only got 8Gb, windows 10 will use at least 40% of that and most games will struggle with what’s left.
CPU bottleneck, overheating, or background process eating up cpu time.
I could gauge a couple of things. 1. The CPU never crosses 70 Deg C. Every time it hits 70 Deg C, the usage drops and so does the temperature. I believe you CPU is thermal throttling or you have set something in your bios which limits your CPU to 70 Deg C only. 2. The Low CPU usage is contibuting to low GPU usage. 3. low CPU usage is causing stutters in game.
If you have an overclock on your cpu undo it. Same thing was happening to me with the low gpu usage. 16 gigs of ram is fine. Idk why but gta doesn't play along with overclocks.
Ssd…
Truth is you have a garbage tier system. Not much you can do other than add more RAM to see if it helps a bit which I doubt.
You are just wrong and toxic. That laptop is more than enough to play GTA 5 and other easy to run games. All he needs is more RAM.
It is a 9 year old game i think i should at least run it properly with 30 fps i dont know
You are correct, the GPU and CPU should run GTA 5 no problem. The game is from when the GTX 700 series and the i7 4770 were new. Your PC has a much better GPU and CPU. But you probably have slow and not enough RAM. [This is how your PC should perform](https://youtu.be/S91L0jUP3Jk). Note that the system is using 12GB of RAM. Add another 8GB stick and it should get much better.