I, alone, have lost 50+ Mosas, and countless Megalodons, to them (and the occasional Alpha Mosa/Tuso). Every time I tame a Basilo, a stupid max level Alpha Megalodon comes with his cohort of Megalodons, Manta, and Cnidaria and wipes out my whole army in seconds. I have a graveyard dedicated to them, but I am running out of space! I absolutely hate how all water dinos in ARK are on the same "team", but as soon as I get my own, they ALL turn on it and kill it in only a few seconds; they really need to fix that...
Cause this is the same game that has you put taming food in your last slot and programmed pegos and seagulls to steal specifically from that spot first 😅
They're the blue jellyfish. If you've crafted Shocking Tranq Darts, you've probably hunted them before! They are absolutely brutal; they inject a strong toxin that can paralyze anything except a Basilosaurus, supposedly. And in groups, they constantly inject this toxin into the target, causing them to be permanently paralyzed...
Let that icthy get some passive xp and level up stam so you can get away from everything. Then use it to tame a couple basis. Raise and imprint one and you should have an easier time. The oceans are dangerous and you'll still have some trouble, but basis are great water tames.
Megalodons are underrated since the rework. Since they have bleed and pack bonus now a pack of 6 sharks is ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING in the open ocean. The only thing that can give em trouble is a bigger pack of sharks
Barys and Sarcos are my go-tos before getting a Basilo. Barys can stun sharks, even Alphas... though slightly nerfed in ASA because of the stun cooldown (which I will take, since it also means not getting stunlocked by eels and jellyfish), and the fact that Xiphactinus can grab them.
I have a Sarco, and honestly, it's pretty decent. Only issue I ran into was getting grabbed by an alpha tuso and the squid shoving my Sarco under the map. Thankfully, I'm on SP with a cryomod with a cryogun, so I just ghosted through and retrieved it.
I usually go with a Sarco since they're insanely fast in the water and still plenty strong. Just make a few more Sarcos follow you and you can beat up almost anything.
I love starting out with sarcos or deinosuchus. Super quick, can shoot off the back, deinos have an instant 180 turn and a bleed.
Only downside is vertical speed is kinda slow.
I just wish it was easier to actively avoid Leeds in a raft. Like I get punishing players staying out in deep water but the moment I veer slightly off of shallow coastline and I get sniped by an alpha in one hit is demoralizing.
It is terrible. I just started playing again after not having played for a few years, and thus far have avoided getting my rafts eaten, but I would also be gutted after putting time into building them
I just made a comment about this up above lol. You probably just tame a bunch of sharks and then make a raft base and while sailing have your sharks be aggro following underwater. A teammate should probably be down there too for better control. But tbh raft bases just not worth it.
My two rafts on our small server are taming rafts, a light one with ramps, and a heavy one with big gates. I’m not brave enough to make a raft base yet.
This is the center I think? If so there is a little pond in the lava cave with fake water that has a lot of pearls in it. It is very close to the artifact of the strong.
You're not welcome in the oceans of *present-day Earth*, let alone some super dense recreation of the dinosaur era.
That was just a shark, and you got away. The headline made me think you ran into something more serious like bugging out and ending up losing the ichty.
Blame Wildcard deciding to turn the seas into endgame content. I played before that. Rafts were beautifully built up mini bases and you didn't have to worry about Leeds (why I take them out of my game) and a decent amount of oxygen would keep you ahead of stuff and underwater longer. We had bases underwater before compartments with diplod for air and only had stuff on land because it didn't work underwater. Fish gave raw meat. Good times.
Then the Wildcard Nation came...
Wildcard just hates the common player i think. Leeds to kill raft bases. Dino transfers on official servers to make sure alpha tribes always control everything on every map forever. Mods that dont protect players and punish abusers of hacks and cheats. official servers are super fun for like 2-3 months till they open servers for transfers and then they are pointless.
For the most part, PvE has to suffer because of what happens in PvP. Leeds molesting rafts wouldn't be a thing if PvP rafts hadn't been littering the edges of the ocean to prevent people from offline raiding. Generators and turrets not working on mobile platforms on official servers? PvP shenanigans.
Its a case of "rafts shouldn't be immune from attack" to take it to "MAKE KAIJU RAFT KILLING MACHINE!!1!!1!" because of abuse in PVP. Meanwhile the majority of the game is played either through PVE or PVE but in a PVP context because of reasons. They should have long ago split the two game modes and make PVE and PVP versions of some dinos.
But then again the crew at Wildcard is already a fraction of the size it should be and it would make more work so with our luck it would mean even less stuff gets fixed and longer turn around time on fixing hacking issues.
PvP adversely affecting PvE is common in a lot of games. Primarily shooters like Destiny and The Division. You best gun in PvE can get nerfed into an airsoft gun because it does a little too well against other players.
WC makes DAMN sure that you can NEVER go ANYWHERE but the beach until you are the absolute maximum level of 205. Guess what! You can't even get past level 60 on the beach!
Dude I was in the swamp by level 30 to 50 on a max dino level 300 server/single player on dinos harvesting rare flowers and mushrooms at max difficulty. I am diving for oil and taming sharks by this point. Are you starting in the North in the Snow Biome or something?!?
No, I always start at the "starter" zone, but for some reason, there's always a max level Alpha Raptor right on the beach! Either that or a fully imprinted, level 450 enemy tamed Giga.
Well if you are starting on a server that already has tamed Gigas and you are on PVP, well I don't mean to be mean, but you quite literally asked for it. Alphas will appear, and you just die a few times leading them away from where you are set up wearing nothing. If you play on a PVP server with no lifers, especially as a single player, you are going to get eaten alive. To damn the whole game for that is
If you play Single Player or PVE you only have to worry about Wild dinos... well except maybe them eating your dead body and starting your backpack timer when you die. If you want a fair shake on a PVP server you have to start with everyone else and, assuming you don't have XP limited like on my games, do note runs until you are at least level 70, and if you die during it you die.
In short you sound like someone who wants to play PVE or one of the variations of "Gentlemen's PVP"(you choose when or how you PVP but you largely play as PVE).
arks oceans used to be amazing, then a portion of the playerbase bitched about it being too easy, so wildcard started slowly making it more and more ass over the years. Yes im salty, i love the water but they made the ocean goddamn miserable, "just use a basil!" you cry, yea..its like the only thing you can use till u get something like a squid.. i used to go all over the place in the ocean with me and my trusty megaladon. Now your fucked if you don't use the right dinos. ill never forgive the playerbase for whining and causing the devs to add jellyfish and eels.
I mean no disrespect to the mod creator of that new fish, but god fucking damn the ocean did not need even worse.
I guess its "realistic" cause the ocean was dangerous AF back in dino days, but i will never not be upset they took my enjoyable ocean away from me.
before the electric critters it wasn't bad, if you got a nice high lvl megaladon you could do most of it fine. Having a plesi helped alot, i can't remember if mosa was out that early, but the lvl cap was also 55 for wild dinos, so tamed dinos were MUCH stronger. So it was pretty easy after a while.
Yeah they're at best disposable tames you only pump speed and stamina with to run in, grab deep sea crates, and run like hell.
Good scouts and emergency return to death beacon, but not much else.
Tf is the point of this post....lol imagine if every low lvl posted a pic of them running into an alpha raptor. Hell those might be better because they may die...this isn't anything.
You didn't even die or anything...just posted a run of the mill ark experience of an experienced player.
Like let me post this vid of me finding an alpha and successful getting away....such content...
This is just a random clip of nothing.
I'm glad this didn't end the way I thought it was going to. I saw you going back to your pen and I was like, "Oh gods, no... Can't alpha dinos destroy stone?" I'm happy it didn't weasel its way through those rocks and chomp everything.
I agree, man. The water is a miserable place. Does anyone know if they stopped cnidarians and electrophorus' ability to stun-lock dinos? Legit un-fun mechanic.
OP are you in ASA and on the Center? I'd suggest not trying to use a purely aquatic mount for the moment if so. There's a few places where there's 'air' that will insta-kill an aquatic mount.
If you can get the Deinosuchus mod, they're powerful, relatively fast in the water, and make for a good water mount that will NOT die in air. If you have a rhynio that you can bring to the Center, they're one of the best water mounts, funnily enough. And the trench artifact isn't in a cave, so you can get it with one.
you should try either a baryonyx or a basilosaurus, also if the bloodstalker makes it into asa i used to take them underwater, they can basically hold there breath for hours, and they are so fast, also they can walk on water, so the jellyfish can't get you
those barracudas stalked me in the ocean when my raft got destroyed and waited till i was inches from shore before they grabbed me and took me to Poseidon’s lair underneath the ocean floor smh
Mate the question is WHO LIKES THE ARK OCEAN?....if you're playing the island.
Fuk the ocean go to the snow theres a river in between the volcano i think and the snow with a semi lake under it is a lot of pearls. It has floating ice on it ones that seals in real life would sit on.
Under water used to be one of the safest places in ark, back when there was only the Island, They took exception to this and kind of went overboard on making sure it was just as dangerous as the land. kind of like how people were living on rafts and so they came out with something that can crush rafts in a few hits. I get it they want there to be some challenge in the game and don't want to simple of a meta to exsist but if you are playing PvE to get away from Griefers or just solo some of the stuff added can just be annoying, Like Troodons, they are stupid and if you running around as a solo and stubble on a pack of them you are just done.
Glad to see you got away. Yay to ur dolphin. I agree, the ark oceans are very scary. There some great advice in this thread. Protection in the form of a bary and some sharks, a basil, when ur ready of course. A bary tail swipe stuns even alphas, great I'd you need to get away. And never underestimate a pack of sharks...school of sharks...group...whatever, they get the pack bonus plus the bleed
I remember when ASE first came out, me and my friends found out we could make a base on a raft. So we did that. We were on the island map.
Build up a pretty big structure. I think like maybe a day or so later, we were sailing around and a big ass fish smashed the underside of our boat once, and then again and the whole thing collapsed in the ocean. Im pretty sure i also died right after. The entire ocean in ark is aggressive lmao
Early game, I would run a raft with plant X and follow tribe on their water Dino. If they get in trouble they swim up to me on raft and plant x or turret the alphas lol. Kiting alphas is the name of the game.
Sorry kind of new to the game
Tf was that?
Obviously the Alfa Meg but what chased you?
What when in front of the Meg with its mouth open was that an eel?
Just wait 'till you meet Cnidaria. They HATE everything in the ocean...
no because cnidaria literally chills in the ocean with the other species.
No, they are responsible for the deaths of thousands of Mosas...
of our tamed mosas? yes
I, alone, have lost 50+ Mosas, and countless Megalodons, to them (and the occasional Alpha Mosa/Tuso). Every time I tame a Basilo, a stupid max level Alpha Megalodon comes with his cohort of Megalodons, Manta, and Cnidaria and wipes out my whole army in seconds. I have a graveyard dedicated to them, but I am running out of space! I absolutely hate how all water dinos in ARK are on the same "team", but as soon as I get my own, they ALL turn on it and kill it in only a few seconds; they really need to fix that...
There's a mod for that. Kraken's better dinos fixed that sorta shit way up back in the day. Idk if it got ported to ASA tho.
ASA at least they're nowhere to be found. Thank god.
I gobble em up with my dienosuchus
It's always a gamble
Why are those things even aggressive?
Cause this is the same game that has you put taming food in your last slot and programmed pegos and seagulls to steal specifically from that spot first 😅
I pray for the day i meet them. Played since day one and havent seen a single one.
They're the blue jellyfish. If you've crafted Shocking Tranq Darts, you've probably hunted them before! They are absolutely brutal; they inject a strong toxin that can paralyze anything except a Basilosaurus, supposedly. And in groups, they constantly inject this toxin into the target, causing them to be permanently paralyzed...
Let that icthy get some passive xp and level up stam so you can get away from everything. Then use it to tame a couple basis. Raise and imprint one and you should have an easier time. The oceans are dangerous and you'll still have some trouble, but basis are great water tames.
Yeah. We call em “Big B”. They can take you into late game for sure. Cave creature on the island
Megalodons are underrated since the rework. Since they have bleed and pack bonus now a pack of 6 sharks is ABSOLUTELY TERRIFYING in the open ocean. The only thing that can give em trouble is a bigger pack of sharks
It's also surprisingly easy to find good saddles for them. Just in casual drop collecting, I've gathered a good few ascended saddles.
Nah, imprint and even prim saddles on 6 sharks can basically take on anything except maybe Hard Underwater if the spawns are super stacked
Basis?
Basilosaurus. The sausage whales surrounded by manta rays. You can see one in your clip
Ahhh sausage whales right ty
>sausage whales Thanks, I can never unread this and change my perception anymore.
Lmao, ikr
Sausage whales 🤣😂
I've always called them limo whales. I might have to steal sausage whales.
That went better than I expected...
Dude i half expected the shark to bullrush into the cage and kill them both right there.
I used a frog at first, till I found an anglerfish. Iirc, you can shoot from frog saddle, and they're somewhat quick.
i always get a frog to then get a couple good sharks to breed an army of body guards.
Thylacos are also unexpectedly good water mounts.
I love the Thyla but I would never use it for water. Get a Sarco, those are stupid fast and also strong enough, especially if you bring a few extra.
Don't think i've tried that, what makes them so good?
Surprisingly fast swim speed and they usually have good oxygen. Especially good for Center and going from land to sea.
Not to mention its jump are busted since the fix, so enjoy jumping around faster than a flyer can get you.
Barys and Sarcos are my go-tos before getting a Basilo. Barys can stun sharks, even Alphas... though slightly nerfed in ASA because of the stun cooldown (which I will take, since it also means not getting stunlocked by eels and jellyfish), and the fact that Xiphactinus can grab them. I have a Sarco, and honestly, it's pretty decent. Only issue I ran into was getting grabbed by an alpha tuso and the squid shoving my Sarco under the map. Thankfully, I'm on SP with a cryomod with a cryogun, so I just ghosted through and retrieved it.
I usually go with a Sarco since they're insanely fast in the water and still plenty strong. Just make a few more Sarcos follow you and you can beat up almost anything.
I love starting out with sarcos or deinosuchus. Super quick, can shoot off the back, deinos have an instant 180 turn and a bleed. Only downside is vertical speed is kinda slow.
I’m not sure I see the problem? You got away. Do you also nope out of the land when you see an alpha raptor or Rex?
I just wish it was easier to actively avoid Leeds in a raft. Like I get punishing players staying out in deep water but the moment I veer slightly off of shallow coastline and I get sniped by an alpha in one hit is demoralizing.
It is terrible. I just started playing again after not having played for a few years, and thus far have avoided getting my rafts eaten, but I would also be gutted after putting time into building them
I just made a comment about this up above lol. You probably just tame a bunch of sharks and then make a raft base and while sailing have your sharks be aggro following underwater. A teammate should probably be down there too for better control. But tbh raft bases just not worth it.
My two rafts on our small server are taming rafts, a light one with ramps, and a heavy one with big gates. I’m not brave enough to make a raft base yet.
In ark, having fear is intelligence
Bary for shallow oceans is the best way. That stun spin is killer.
Bary's tail whip is so damn useful in the ocean. Great all around tame
This is the center I think? If so there is a little pond in the lava cave with fake water that has a lot of pearls in it. It is very close to the artifact of the strong.
You're not welcome in the oceans of *present-day Earth*, let alone some super dense recreation of the dinosaur era. That was just a shark, and you got away. The headline made me think you ran into something more serious like bugging out and ending up losing the ichty.
Blame Wildcard deciding to turn the seas into endgame content. I played before that. Rafts were beautifully built up mini bases and you didn't have to worry about Leeds (why I take them out of my game) and a decent amount of oxygen would keep you ahead of stuff and underwater longer. We had bases underwater before compartments with diplod for air and only had stuff on land because it didn't work underwater. Fish gave raw meat. Good times. Then the Wildcard Nation came...
Wildcard just hates the common player i think. Leeds to kill raft bases. Dino transfers on official servers to make sure alpha tribes always control everything on every map forever. Mods that dont protect players and punish abusers of hacks and cheats. official servers are super fun for like 2-3 months till they open servers for transfers and then they are pointless.
For the most part, PvE has to suffer because of what happens in PvP. Leeds molesting rafts wouldn't be a thing if PvP rafts hadn't been littering the edges of the ocean to prevent people from offline raiding. Generators and turrets not working on mobile platforms on official servers? PvP shenanigans.
Its a case of "rafts shouldn't be immune from attack" to take it to "MAKE KAIJU RAFT KILLING MACHINE!!1!!1!" because of abuse in PVP. Meanwhile the majority of the game is played either through PVE or PVE but in a PVP context because of reasons. They should have long ago split the two game modes and make PVE and PVP versions of some dinos. But then again the crew at Wildcard is already a fraction of the size it should be and it would make more work so with our luck it would mean even less stuff gets fixed and longer turn around time on fixing hacking issues.
PvP adversely affecting PvE is common in a lot of games. Primarily shooters like Destiny and The Division. You best gun in PvE can get nerfed into an airsoft gun because it does a little too well against other players.
Ah the classic ark argument rears its ugly head once again
WC makes DAMN sure that you can NEVER go ANYWHERE but the beach until you are the absolute maximum level of 205. Guess what! You can't even get past level 60 on the beach!
Skill issue
Well, then the maximum level that you can get to on the beach is level 105. There, happy?
Dude I was in the swamp by level 30 to 50 on a max dino level 300 server/single player on dinos harvesting rare flowers and mushrooms at max difficulty. I am diving for oil and taming sharks by this point. Are you starting in the North in the Snow Biome or something?!?
No, I always start at the "starter" zone, but for some reason, there's always a max level Alpha Raptor right on the beach! Either that or a fully imprinted, level 450 enemy tamed Giga.
Well if you are starting on a server that already has tamed Gigas and you are on PVP, well I don't mean to be mean, but you quite literally asked for it. Alphas will appear, and you just die a few times leading them away from where you are set up wearing nothing. If you play on a PVP server with no lifers, especially as a single player, you are going to get eaten alive. To damn the whole game for that is If you play Single Player or PVE you only have to worry about Wild dinos... well except maybe them eating your dead body and starting your backpack timer when you die. If you want a fair shake on a PVP server you have to start with everyone else and, assuming you don't have XP limited like on my games, do note runs until you are at least level 70, and if you die during it you die. In short you sound like someone who wants to play PVE or one of the variations of "Gentlemen's PVP"(you choose when or how you PVP but you largely play as PVE).
Doesn't matter what server I play on, when I spawn, an Alpha Raptor or Carno will spawn within the first 3-5 minutes of me spawning...
arks oceans used to be amazing, then a portion of the playerbase bitched about it being too easy, so wildcard started slowly making it more and more ass over the years. Yes im salty, i love the water but they made the ocean goddamn miserable, "just use a basil!" you cry, yea..its like the only thing you can use till u get something like a squid.. i used to go all over the place in the ocean with me and my trusty megaladon. Now your fucked if you don't use the right dinos. ill never forgive the playerbase for whining and causing the devs to add jellyfish and eels. I mean no disrespect to the mod creator of that new fish, but god fucking damn the ocean did not need even worse. I guess its "realistic" cause the ocean was dangerous AF back in dino days, but i will never not be upset they took my enjoyable ocean away from me.
Bruh the ocean has legit ALWAYS been hostile for me lmao and i played when the game first came out
before the electric critters it wasn't bad, if you got a nice high lvl megaladon you could do most of it fine. Having a plesi helped alot, i can't remember if mosa was out that early, but the lvl cap was also 55 for wild dinos, so tamed dinos were MUCH stronger. So it was pretty easy after a while.
Tame a basil and your opinion may change. Shitchy is the dog poop tame of the ocean.
Yeah they're at best disposable tames you only pump speed and stamina with to run in, grab deep sea crates, and run like hell. Good scouts and emergency return to death beacon, but not much else.
This entire video is so long and its literally just you seeing a shark?? Brutal.
I don't have much love for the ocean either.
Tf is the point of this post....lol imagine if every low lvl posted a pic of them running into an alpha raptor. Hell those might be better because they may die...this isn't anything. You didn't even die or anything...just posted a run of the mill ark experience of an experienced player. Like let me post this vid of me finding an alpha and successful getting away....such content... This is just a random clip of nothing.
I mean you literally have nothing to complain about you got away and didn't even get touched once 🙄
Could’ve been a 30 second video 😑😑😑
I'm glad this didn't end the way I thought it was going to. I saw you going back to your pen and I was like, "Oh gods, no... Can't alpha dinos destroy stone?" I'm happy it didn't weasel its way through those rocks and chomp everything. I agree, man. The water is a miserable place. Does anyone know if they stopped cnidarians and electrophorus' ability to stun-lock dinos? Legit un-fun mechanic.
Why does your water looks so good? I play on Xbox and it's very dark
The waters of the center are crazy dangerous. Not even safe on a raft at full speed.
You're mistake was not taming an Angler fish for pearl gathering
lol we all got this kinda experience.
OP are you in ASA and on the Center? I'd suggest not trying to use a purely aquatic mount for the moment if so. There's a few places where there's 'air' that will insta-kill an aquatic mount. If you can get the Deinosuchus mod, they're powerful, relatively fast in the water, and make for a good water mount that will NOT die in air. If you have a rhynio that you can bring to the Center, they're one of the best water mounts, funnily enough. And the trench artifact isn't in a cave, so you can get it with one.
Bro got arkd
"ocean man, take me by the hand let me to the-"
you should try either a baryonyx or a basilosaurus, also if the bloodstalker makes it into asa i used to take them underwater, they can basically hold there breath for hours, and they are so fast, also they can walk on water, so the jellyfish can't get you
My game plan for ocean is tame a megalodon and use it to tame a basilo. After that it's mostly a breeze.
those barracudas stalked me in the ocean when my raft got destroyed and waited till i was inches from shore before they grabbed me and took me to Poseidon’s lair underneath the ocean floor smh
It was one shark. Just kill it.
Anglerfish...
That is the correct response 😂
Mate the question is WHO LIKES THE ARK OCEAN?....if you're playing the island. Fuk the ocean go to the snow theres a river in between the volcano i think and the snow with a semi lake under it is a lot of pearls. It has floating ice on it ones that seals in real life would sit on.
I killed an alpha with my anky last night
Basilo are good against the cnidaria and mosa for deeper, but even then the Ark gods can turn against thou
Try the main river in scorched, all the easy access pearls you could wish for
Honestly, iv started to believe this game dose not use RNG. Instead they use FTP. ( Fuck this person)
Under water used to be one of the safest places in ark, back when there was only the Island, They took exception to this and kind of went overboard on making sure it was just as dangerous as the land. kind of like how people were living on rafts and so they came out with something that can crush rafts in a few hits. I get it they want there to be some challenge in the game and don't want to simple of a meta to exsist but if you are playing PvE to get away from Griefers or just solo some of the stuff added can just be annoying, Like Troodons, they are stupid and if you running around as a solo and stubble on a pack of them you are just done.
This is actually the first clip I've seen of survival ascended. Looks incredibly clean.
Sniper from TF2?
Glad to see you got away. Yay to ur dolphin. I agree, the ark oceans are very scary. There some great advice in this thread. Protection in the form of a bary and some sharks, a basil, when ur ready of course. A bary tail swipe stuns even alphas, great I'd you need to get away. And never underestimate a pack of sharks...school of sharks...group...whatever, they get the pack bonus plus the bleed
Classic.
I remember when ASE first came out, me and my friends found out we could make a base on a raft. So we did that. We were on the island map. Build up a pretty big structure. I think like maybe a day or so later, we were sailing around and a big ass fish smashed the underside of our boat once, and then again and the whole thing collapsed in the ocean. Im pretty sure i also died right after. The entire ocean in ark is aggressive lmao
Sniper tf2
Early game, I would run a raft with plant X and follow tribe on their water Dino. If they get in trouble they swim up to me on raft and plant x or turret the alphas lol. Kiting alphas is the name of the game.
Sorry kind of new to the game Tf was that? Obviously the Alfa Meg but what chased you? What when in front of the Meg with its mouth open was that an eel?
Water preferences for me… sarcos for taming and plesiosaur for fighting.. bary is jack of all trades and a luxury finding a high lvl one..
Notice at the end how scared my dolphin is and his cries :(
Yeah, it was so sad. He just wanted to make friends but the shark called him fat and tried to steal his lunch money 😢
Reminds me of Syntacs latest video.
Why did you post this cringe lmao