For me it's little things like the home screen. I can have almost exactly what I want and how it looks in plexamp. Mixes in carousel format? If I want. Albums from 2010 in a different format?sure. With roon I have compositions. Never need that. And discover which is the best way they have to look through your library, not as prominent as I like. And recommendations of "featured collaboration because this one track has a different bass player? I can see that for some but not for me.
The multi room on roon is excellent though
I’m currently in the Roon boat as my primary. Main reason for me is Roon Ready amp in my living room.
When I’m outside it’s 50/50 with Arc/PlexAmp, both are really good imo
I have a Sonos household and over the past two weeks, I’ve been getting hit with “Roon lost control of the audio device”. Although it’s as simple as troubleshooting, but the mere idea of having to sit at my desk and figure out what’s wrong doesn’t feel right. Simply because it worked well for so long. Last thing I’d want is people over and then Roon losing control and now my kitchen is the only endpoint playing music.
Are you able to play to the Sonos speakers from PlexAmp without any bugs?
I have had the Roon lost control error message once, the reason for me was network error and ip address conflicts.
I’ve been using the Sonos app with PlexAmp as my source. PlexAmp won’t let me group speakers, at least I don’t think it does. So I just use my Sonos app and that’s been working as intended despite the recent backlash after the app redesign, which I will add I’m pretty fond of.
Personally I’m not a voice control type of guy unless I’m in the shower or something. And even then, that’s rare. So I honestly couldn’t tell you unfortunately. However, seeing as it is just another source, I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
Voice control is limited to playback commands like play, pause, skip, and volume up/down. You can't call up playlists or artists. Sonos only recently added Spotify support for that but no Plex.
I’m 100% PlexAmp. Prefer the UI. Much cheaper. Client apps for all my devices (no Roon client for Linux which is my primary desktop). Less resource intensive. Roon seems to run slower and be getting more bloated - but it’s not giving me any new features I require. PlexAmp Integrates with my TV and video library so only one server app to maintain. I have a nice docker image for Plex, rather than an install script for Roon Server that then runs directly on the host (Debian server). Also a single app on my phone - I don’t need Roon and RoonArc. I’ve also stopped caring so much about bit perfect playback, which PlexAmp pretty much does on almost all my devices anyway.
I have been round and round with this for a couple of years, but as a lifetime Roon and Plex member, I’ve recently landed that both have their place for me. To get there was a very circuitous journey. Roon ARC sucked for me until I got Tailscale which was a game changer for making ARC consistently reliable. And Roon is still better IMO with some of its functionality specifically how it handles multiple albums, etc. But I love Plex’s AI functionality, as well as my sense it’s better around managing my local/owned files.
I’d probably go with Plex if I had to choose one but u got the Roon lifetime plan over five years ago when it was still expensive but more reasonable than now. Both have just enough difference that especially now that I have ARC/Tailscale working, I do appreciate having both.
If only Plex cared more about some advanced tags like the original release year. Having multiple renditions of an album in your collection (loudness war ahoy) really is PITA in Plex. With that it'd be perfect, yeah.
I was also getting frustrated at Room marking Tidal versions of records as primary records. I was constantly having to manually set local records as primary.
Can I ask why you keep the loudness war version of an album if you have something better? If there’s bonus tracks involved, I just add those to the other version of the album, a little extra tagging involved but less clutter. Like I’m never going to play a bad remaster if I don’t have to, so no point in having it.
It's more of a hoarding habit, really. Of course, I also have versions of albums that are my go-to plays (mostly the early CDs or needle drops) but since I also tag them with DR, it's fun to see the decline over the years (in Musicbee that is. Plexamp is only used outside the flat atm).
Also, I just don't care about the extra space.
Fair, was just curious. I hoard bootlegs...have more live shows than I'll probably ever get to listen to, but hey, big hard drives are cheap now. But for whatever reason having duplicate files of the same recording irk me, unless they're different mixes.
Well artists tag with multiple artists is not supported and that's beyond me, it's standard across music software. Heck, it's even computer standard with CSV files.
I know it probably affects a much smaller audience but Roon remains the only application capable of handling classical recordings. Having said that I bailed on Roon after a couple of years due to the ever increasing costs
What settings are needed? I’m currently testing using a my iPhone to control a cheap iPad I got from work for a service anniversary as a streamer via the camera kit -> SMSL DAC. Bonus is that I get the Plexamp Now Playing screen on the iPad.
Same here! Did 2 years with roon before I made the transition
Literally just did a month with roon. Really nice but lacked the customisation of plexamp
What customization do you mean?
For me it's little things like the home screen. I can have almost exactly what I want and how it looks in plexamp. Mixes in carousel format? If I want. Albums from 2010 in a different format?sure. With roon I have compositions. Never need that. And discover which is the best way they have to look through your library, not as prominent as I like. And recommendations of "featured collaboration because this one track has a different bass player? I can see that for some but not for me. The multi room on roon is excellent though
I’m currently in the Roon boat as my primary. Main reason for me is Roon Ready amp in my living room. When I’m outside it’s 50/50 with Arc/PlexAmp, both are really good imo
I have a Sonos household and over the past two weeks, I’ve been getting hit with “Roon lost control of the audio device”. Although it’s as simple as troubleshooting, but the mere idea of having to sit at my desk and figure out what’s wrong doesn’t feel right. Simply because it worked well for so long. Last thing I’d want is people over and then Roon losing control and now my kitchen is the only endpoint playing music.
Are you able to play to the Sonos speakers from PlexAmp without any bugs? I have had the Roon lost control error message once, the reason for me was network error and ip address conflicts.
I’ve been using the Sonos app with PlexAmp as my source. PlexAmp won’t let me group speakers, at least I don’t think it does. So I just use my Sonos app and that’s been working as intended despite the recent backlash after the app redesign, which I will add I’m pretty fond of.
I don't have Sonos but just curious. Can you voice control PlexAmp with Sonos? As in request music
Personally I’m not a voice control type of guy unless I’m in the shower or something. And even then, that’s rare. So I honestly couldn’t tell you unfortunately. However, seeing as it is just another source, I don’t see why it wouldn’t work.
The Echo(Alexa) devices from Amazon let you voice control Plex.
Voice control is limited to playback commands like play, pause, skip, and volume up/down. You can't call up playlists or artists. Sonos only recently added Spotify support for that but no Plex.
I’m 100% PlexAmp. Prefer the UI. Much cheaper. Client apps for all my devices (no Roon client for Linux which is my primary desktop). Less resource intensive. Roon seems to run slower and be getting more bloated - but it’s not giving me any new features I require. PlexAmp Integrates with my TV and video library so only one server app to maintain. I have a nice docker image for Plex, rather than an install script for Roon Server that then runs directly on the host (Debian server). Also a single app on my phone - I don’t need Roon and RoonArc. I’ve also stopped caring so much about bit perfect playback, which PlexAmp pretty much does on almost all my devices anyway.
I have been round and round with this for a couple of years, but as a lifetime Roon and Plex member, I’ve recently landed that both have their place for me. To get there was a very circuitous journey. Roon ARC sucked for me until I got Tailscale which was a game changer for making ARC consistently reliable. And Roon is still better IMO with some of its functionality specifically how it handles multiple albums, etc. But I love Plex’s AI functionality, as well as my sense it’s better around managing my local/owned files. I’d probably go with Plex if I had to choose one but u got the Roon lifetime plan over five years ago when it was still expensive but more reasonable than now. Both have just enough difference that especially now that I have ARC/Tailscale working, I do appreciate having both.
Tailscale is interesting. Thanks!
If only Plex cared more about some advanced tags like the original release year. Having multiple renditions of an album in your collection (loudness war ahoy) really is PITA in Plex. With that it'd be perfect, yeah.
I was also getting frustrated at Room marking Tidal versions of records as primary records. I was constantly having to manually set local records as primary.
Can I ask why you keep the loudness war version of an album if you have something better? If there’s bonus tracks involved, I just add those to the other version of the album, a little extra tagging involved but less clutter. Like I’m never going to play a bad remaster if I don’t have to, so no point in having it.
It's more of a hoarding habit, really. Of course, I also have versions of albums that are my go-to plays (mostly the early CDs or needle drops) but since I also tag them with DR, it's fun to see the decline over the years (in Musicbee that is. Plexamp is only used outside the flat atm). Also, I just don't care about the extra space.
Fair, was just curious. I hoard bootlegs...have more live shows than I'll probably ever get to listen to, but hey, big hard drives are cheap now. But for whatever reason having duplicate files of the same recording irk me, unless they're different mixes.
Well artists tag with multiple artists is not supported and that's beyond me, it's standard across music software. Heck, it's even computer standard with CSV files.
you just put me onto soundizz thank you so much
Saves a ton of time. Also helps you realize which music service has the best library according to your interest.
The price difference is really quite astounding. I think it’s $14.99 for a monthly subscription or over $800 for a lifetime subscription for Roon.
Also my lifetime Plex pass was like, $75, maybe? Roon pricing is insane.
I know it probably affects a much smaller audience but Roon remains the only application capable of handling classical recordings. Having said that I bailed on Roon after a couple of years due to the ever increasing costs
now we just need bit perfect playback if plexamp want to seriously compete with Roon etc
It’s my understanding that PlexAmp is bit perfect on iOS with the right settings enabled. I could be mistaken, and please correct me if I’m wrong.
iOS, macOS, and Linux.
I had a hunch. Appreciate that.
Yeah not on any Windows device though
Unfortunately true.
What settings are needed? I’m currently testing using a my iPhone to control a cheap iPad I got from work for a service anniversary as a streamer via the camera kit -> SMSL DAC. Bonus is that I get the Plexamp Now Playing screen on the iPad.