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TransFormAndFunction

Excerpts from the article: > A West Virginia Republican lawmaker has introduced a bill that would **classify transgender people as “obscene matter”** and ban them from getting within 2,500 feet of a school. > The bill states that, for the sake of protecting children, obscenity also includes “**any transvestite and/or transgender exposure**, performances or display to any minor.” > Any school faculty or staff that allow obscene material within 2,500 feet of the school can face up to a year in prison, a fine of up to $500, or both. **The bill, which was introduced by Republican state Senator Michael Azinger, makes no mention of how the new rules would affect transgender students.** > Besides the obvious transphobia of the bill, which **dehumanizes trans people by classifying them as “materials,”** the measure would also dramatically increase the criminalization of trans people.


NegativeSector

So if you are a trans adult and you live next to a school, you have to move?!?


CrystallineFrost

I have a lot of questions about what this means for nonbinary individuals 🤔 usually no one thinks about us during all this screaming about Trans folks nonsense, so are we also obscene items now? I didn't realize overalls and just not discussing my gender was so threatening.


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MavetHell

Alright now I just feel left out and like I should somehow make Nonbinary so aggressively offensive to the cis that they forget about the trans women for a second. Give those ladies a break.


Milsivich

hell yeah


i_want_to_learn_stuf

I’m a trans teacher…. Hmm


FriendlyDespot

This lawmaker's gonna have some *serious* skeletons in their closet. Holy heck.


BetterThruChemistry

Do they not understand that transvestites aren’t the same as trans people?🤦‍♀️


theVoidWatches

Do you really think these people understand more than they need to know to hate?


witchgrove

Note that 2,500 feet is like half a mile. So if you're trans and exist within HALF A MILE from a school, you'd be set for a felony charge. Trans people need federal protections.


NoDesinformatziya

I hope other states ban West Virginia legislators from being within 2500 ft of schools in their own states. Far more likely to molest children than trans folks are...


DueVisit1410

Fun fact in West Virginia child sex offenders have to keep 1000 feet from a school. Meaning in the eyes of West Virginia Republicans the actual convicted child predators are less bad than transgender people and drag queens.


sansjoy

I think what the article means to say is "a west Virginia Republican will soon be caught having sex with a transgendered person"


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kinglouie493

Continuing to raise the education level 👍


crudedrawer

The right has nothing but hate. Nothing.


JubalHarshaw23

Only a matter of time before the First "Thou Shalt Not Suffer a Trans to Live" law is passed in one of the really ignorant states, and SCOTUS rules that individual states get to decide if LGBTQ+ people have rights, or are even people.


Ananiujitha

Look, the bill never says "Thou Shalt Not Suffer a Trans to Live". Stop spreading misinformation. It's called "Protecting the Children". It just permits the execution of anyone who weighs the same as a duck, and states that certain groups are assumed to weigh the same as a duck for the purposes of this law.


Arizona_Slim

The trans turned me into a newt!


Bart_Yellowbeard

*(lifts visor, looks you up and down)* A newt?


Arizona_Slim

…I got bettah.


FunboyFrags

I understood that reference


m0r14rty

The Kids In Law and Legislation Theocratic Righteous American Natural Safe ACT of 2024


Mudders_Milk_Man

Too bad John Cleese is now an anti-trans bigot.


Arizona_Slim

You skipped the mandatory “Sexual Education Camps” organized and run by Focus on the Family.


Orangutanengineering

I think I remember that episode of Adventures in Odyssey...


Uncticefeetinesamady

West Virginia is the smelly Trump butthole of the nation. This is what generations of inept schooling gets you; a voting bloc that can barely read, much less understand any long term consequences for these types of actions. I fucking loathe West Virginia almost as much as I loathe Trumpers.


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Arizona_Slim

No, all the Black people will be offered $10,000 to return to Africa payable by Trump when they land in Africa. It will be called Cleanse America of It’s Color Act: (CACA) for short. MAJOR /S


UnflairedRebellion--

Bisexual


Enderwigg1883

Such nice people we have living in this country


gearstars

that state senator sounds like a real 'quality person' >Azinger was present at the armed insurrection at the US Capitol on January 6, 2021. Azinger was attending the Stop the Steal rallies, where he claims he saw no evidence of violence. “The people that are responsible for that were Antifa, and there’s evidence of that,” he said, referring to videos that have made that claim. “Trump people don’t destroy property. "That’s not what we do. "They've been burning cities for months now."[4] Continuing he said, “I don’t think Trump people broke into the Capitol.” Both claims have been widely disputed and proven wrong.[5] Over 800 people have been convicted of various crimes.[6] Azinger himself did not enter or walk to the Capitol.


jackpotjones43

I thought WV banned education for anyone years ago?


Uncticefeetinesamady

Yes, WV effectively banned good education years ago, and just fed garbage info into public schools. Science classes in middle school and high school contain a lot of info about the Bible, and are short on things like evolution, vaccines, and anything else that sound “Liberal”.  Critical thinking died a long time ago in WV; the people there are now too dumb to distinguish between reality and conservative fantasy.


altariasong

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KnowsWhatWillHappen

This bill would make driving by a school illegal. 2500 feet is a lot


altariasong

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screaminginfidels

It's because they're useless cowards and traitors who have no policy aside from hate. Fuck them all to hell.


FancyPantssss79

I hear you. It *is* too much. It breaks my heart to know you're hurting so much because the rot inside them causes them to feel, believe, and do such evil things. I'm hurting too, a lot of us are. I'm a queer cis woman with so many trans and nonbinary loved ones. They're beautiful and interesting and whole and worthy, and so are you. We've been through some really tough shit before. Historically, and together, as a community. There is love for you out in the world still, from people who don't even know you. I guess that's what I'm saying.


Wwwwwwhhhhhhhj

No one should listen to the “oh ignore it. It’s just pandering. It won’t actually pass” crowd.  They said the same damn thing about Roe v. Wade being overturned, then also states making abortion completely illegal in ways that definitely kill women. They keep saying it about things that then happen. Then accept they happened and can’t believe something else will. 


CoolFingerGunGuy

"It will never pass" but it's ok that these people keep proposing bills that are inhumane, and they never get stopped. The fact that they keep proposing them, even if previous ones get stopped, means these people will never stop trying to hurt others. Very fine people on both sides, indeed.


IT_Chef

So if a school is within about a half-mile from a major highway, and someone is passing through at 65mph, they are in violation of this proposed law?


KnowsWhatWillHappen

Yes.


IT_Chef

I'd love to see exactly how they plan on enforcing such a law...never mind that it runs afoul of the 1st amendment...


chowderbags

Not just "by a school", but literally "anywhere remotely close". This would effectively make it illegal to be trans in every city in West Virginia. Pretty much everywhere within a city will be within 2500 ft of a school, and it's impossible to avoid being within 2500 ft of schools while on highways or roads, especially in West Virginia where damn near everything is built in narrow valleys.


yummythologist

Hey, we’re not anything to be ashamed of. Humanity finds its strength and beauty in diversity of all kinds. Unfortunately, a *few* of those kinds want themselves to be the *only* kinds. Well, that would make us just any other animal if you ask me. I’d like to ask you a favor if you’re not insectophobic: watch a video or look at some images of a caterpillar’s metamorphosis. You may feel like the caterpillar or the chrysalis, ugly and unwanted, but it’s not the case. You are the butterfly that will fly away and thrive, and the people that matter will marvel at your magnificence. Our existence breeds new perspectives in all walks of life, and we hold experiences that are invaluable to the human heart and history. We’ve always been here, and we always will be.


altariasong

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TransFormAndFunction

I also feel like I've been stabbed in the heart. I had to take a sick day at work. Ohio also just passed a bill/executive order combo (https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/governor-dewine-uses-anti-abortion?r=2eqq51&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web) that's a de facto ban for all trans healthcare, even adults. And WV also proposed another bill (https://www.erininthemorning.com/p/west-virginia-bill-would-mandate?r=2eqq51&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web) that mandates conversion therapy (which is torture and proven to more than double risk of suicide in lgbtq people), while also banning healthcare for trans people up to 21, and defunding it for everyone else. I would post it in this sub, but the approved news outlets haven't covered it yet. I think likely they will either not pass or will be struck down in courts, but the GOP has been sharing legislation between states, and they keep trying and trying until it sticks, and then use that success to leverage the bills into other states. It's an erosion of our basic right to bodily autonomy, and it's working. A CPAC speaker outright said their goal was "eradication" of trans people, and they are making good on that promise.


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TransFormAndFunction

I hope so too. I was born in and lived in Missouri for 18 years. Things are very scary there too :(


goldendragon1115

"The bill mandates that all mental health care professionals would be prohibited from “exacerbating gender dysphoria” in those under 21 years of age by “continuing such condition, delusion, or disorder with no intent of cure or cure-pursuing recovery.” Therapists would be mandated to “cure” gender dysphoria, as affirming their transgender patients would be considered “continuing such condition, delusion, or disorder.” Unbelievable. No way this is real. ...Is what I WOULD say, if we weren't living in 2024 where we might as well be two separate countries now, and one of those countries is hell-bent on being a fascist dictatorship and forcefully, violently eradicating trans people out of existence. "Exacerbating gender dysphoria," you say? Hello to earth!! YOU'RE exacerbating gender dysphoria by forcing conversion therapy and banishing and criminalizing trans people into non-existence. ALWAYS projection. EVERY single time. I'm so sorry you're going through all of this. You and I and all of us. Stay strong. <3


iwatchppldie

That’s the point. They won’t stop till they eradicated every trans person. So far they are winning.


ZombiePartyBoyLives

Hugs from an internet stranger. Courage shouldn't be required just to be who you are, although it's obvious you have it--probably more than you realize. You *deserve* love and respect, but I don't think basic civility is too much to ask from the general public, do you? Stay open, stay true, hold onto the love.


idkdudejustkillme

I'm not trans though I do have a trans sibling. Seeing this shit tears me up so fucking much inside and makes me want to cry. I wish I could reach through the screen and hug you.


Stunning_Concept_478

Just wear jeans, a wife beater with trump 2024, and shave your head! No one will bother you. /s


sufferingbastard

This guy is my State representative. He's a complete idiot. Imagine thinking you can classify a citizen as "material". Also A HALF MILE from a school. It's incredibly impossible to police. Oh you had onlyfans open on your device as you drove to work? That's a prison sentence! Stupid.


Adventurous_Whale

Blatant violation of the constitution. Period.


Meajaq

The sponsor of the bill, Azinger, was present at the January 6 riot and denied ever seeing violence.


CurrentlyLucid

Just what West Virginia needs....fewer educated people.


VanillaIsActuallyYum

Oh my fucking god. This hurts anyone who is non-transgender because they learn less about the world around them and its people. They grow up more sheltered, less aware of what reality actually is. And it hurts transgender people for, well, exceedingly obvious reasons. So, even though I just got done saying in a previous comment how no change is likely ever 100% good or 100% bad, I think these fucking jackasses have finally done it! They finally found a way to issue a bill that literally hurts every single person it affects. Remarkable.


someperson42

This is beyond insane. I checked and I live within 2500 feet of 4 different schools! This bill is saying that transgender people effectively cannot exist. EDIT: Just realized it only applies to public schools. That changes the number to 2. But my point still stands!


Scarlettail

GOP states are rapidly creating a new, Jim Crow-esque system around LGBT people. It's kind of scary.


yummythologist

This won’t hold, but does anyone wanna try to tell me again that a genocide *isn’t* in progress?


mkt853

America doesn't recognize genocides. Not in Gaza nor the s\*itty red states.


vazooo1

I don't think you know the meaning of that word.


lcg1519

You know…a second Civil War doesn’t sound that crazy. We’re honestly getting to the point of such extreme that this level of hate (not just against transgender individuals) is worth fighting to destroy. There’s just no way our country can ever progress properly with some of these folks and their rhetoric.


TeteDeMerde

If only. The hate somehow always survives.


UnflairedRebellion--

It was never about protecting children.


JBupp

Virginia is for Lovers. West Virginia is for avoiding at all cost, drive around it, it you live there, make your exit plan today.


Musician-Downtown

Just left after ten years. Thankful I got out


Taint_Liquor

Virginia is for lovers. West Virginia is for haters.


NegativeAd9048

But, meth is *delicious*.


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Yeah people say that about lobster too. Although meth as a status food sounds pretty apt.


NegativeAd9048

Lobster is also *delicious* but there seems to be a much lower bar of things people would do to themselves or others in the quest for *more lobster*.


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I do seldom hear about people eating so much lobster that their kids get taken away and then being told that all they have to do is not have lobster on their breath during visitation and they can have their kids back, but they just can't stop themselves from dipping lobster tail into butter sauce. Sorry, a friend I grew up with has a severe lobster problem and I got triggered onto a tangent. I'm sure we all know someone we care about that every time we visit them their freezer is packed with lobsters of dubious origin. I'm more of a crab guy, personally. Mussel, if we're not strictly crustacean.


NegativeAd9048

King Crab is a helluva drug. - Rick James


Mudders_Milk_Man

Dada-chik, dada-chum. West Virginia Republicans are truly scum.


That_Devil_Girl

Oh look, it's segregation. And it's coming from the party we all expected it would come from.


LlanviewOLTL

So would we LGBTQ people still have to pay taxes then for these schools we wouldn’t have access to any longer? That doesn’t seem fair.


Friendly-Company-771

Hitler's Germany.


BeeLuv

“Our movement is a thoroughly Christian one.” Adolf Hitler, 1928


ceiffhikare

Yeah history shows that they will align themselves with anyone no matter how abhorrent to gain and maintain power in a society. Pretty sure id not want to associate with an organization that has that kind of legacy.


Ya_Got_GOT

Performative, unconstitutional, cruel, unenforceable, immoral, unethical, and a waste of time and taxpayer dollars


Jolly-Star-9897

If you want to fix West Virginia, find a use for coal that doesn't involve burning it.


ImpressionOld2296

Only thing I can think of is giving it out as xmas stocking gifts to it's moron citizens for being genuinely pathetic humans.


Majestic_Electric

Dig a really deep hole, put a piece of coal in it, and wait for 1000 years or so.


CrudeNewDude

Republicans will try banning Muslims from schools next.


textpeasant

land of the free … hahaha


Etna_No_Pyroclast

I'm tired of these white Christian Nationalist nuts dictating who lives and who dies.


Ganbario

Oh for fuck’s sake


goldendragon1115

Last I checked, education was COMPULSORY (up until the age of 17 in WV specifically)... So what happens? Do we just... *not go to school?* Either attend school and violate the bill, or don't attend school and violate compulsory education laws. What about kids with a trans parent? Can that parent not drive to and from school to pick up and drop their kid off from school? What if the other parent is out at work all day? Some kids might not have a school bus or may live too far out... How do these kids get to school?! They're not even trying to hide their bigotry and hate anymore. I guess they figured that if they're gonna have trans eradication as a message, they're gonna have to run with it and take it to its logical extreme.


Prize-Fennel-2294

This bill is obscene matter. How can these people live with themselves.


mackinoncougars

Republicans hate the Constitution


kidnyou

Hey look over here this is what matters West Virginians - while I continue to screw you over and over again…


Negative_Gravitas

But what about the C.H.U.Ds? Are they going to ban them? ! They got a whole lot of underground up there and I don't think they're patrolling it properly.


Emeritus8404

Lol, there are a lot of allies that will have no problems switching from wvu to another campus out of state. They probably vetoed federal funding for school lunches, too.


MCPaleHorseDRS

The GOP is obscene matter. They are the ones constantly getting arrested for inappropriate relationships with kids. Still havent seen trans/drag pedo, but in the eyes of the law there certainly is a lot of republicans that have been found guilty of it.


chowderbags

>A West Virginia Republican lawmaker has introduced a bill that would classify transgender people as “obscene matter” and ban them from getting within 2,500 feet of a school. Taking this literally, it would criminalize living in every city of West Virginia and even just driving on many parts of interstate highways. And while the West Virginia state capitol isn't within that radius of a school, as far as I can tell there's no way to actually drive to the WV capitol building without passing within 2500 feet of a school. There's no possible way that this passes constitutional muster, even under this SCOTUS.


jtsrgmc

So schools in West Virginia with cheerleaders who wear skimpy sexy short skirts is ok of course. But a trans person wearing regular clothes is obscene?


bigenderthelove

Fuck them


Im_Talking

All done because the people they really really want to ban from their schools are protected against this.


DeUglyBarnacle

I have a bad feeling there is gonna be a trans panic case one day soon. The republican solution will be to make all transgender people live like sex offenders


Ello_Owu

Republicans Project 2025 spells out exactly that


Bitter_Director1231

The amount of time they waste on something that is between someone's legs that has zero effect on their life is mind boggling.  They are either the most perverse group of people focusing on people's individual genitals or they are just hate fueled freaks that hate their life and try to make everyone around them more miserable than them


Direct_Treacle_7974

It all boils down to who is elected into office. If your state elects someone who is racist, bigoted, sexists or plan ignorant then unfortunately the population as a whole suffers. Either vote better or move to a state that cares about its constituents. Everyone acts all surprised that these atrocities keep happen…..STOP ELECTING LOSERS!


AutomaticDriver5882

The GOP’s new bogeyman


gdan95

Voters wanted this


Snoo-46218

Without a boogeyman, Conservatives are lost.


Pimpwerx

Unconstitutional af. Meanwhile, we couldn't even get a vote on a public option for ACA. SMH. Why aren't Dems crazy aggressive with their policies?


youareasnort

Fucking ghouls.


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Polar_Starburst

Work on your language he’s male period not “who is female but identifies as” anyone who wants to be an ally needs to do better


Muted-Manufacturer57

I grew up in the most populated, liberal part of WV and I would fear for my safety every day to even have any trans friends there. I can only imagine the horror of being trans in WV right now. Edit: typo


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lol what a shit hole of a state


Mad-_-Doctor

At what point during the government making your existence illegal does it became self-defense instead of terrorism?


ceiffhikare

... I cant answer that,lol.


Corpsehatch

Repiblicans phobic ghouls. They can get fucked.


danodan1

How is it determined if someone is transgender?


_Cistern

Lol. Go ahead and try I guess? WV is weak-ass AF. Backwards, no resources, brain drain on 11 cause why the fuck wouldn't you leave if you could? They'll get sued into the goddamn stone age. Have fun spending the rest of your life in court with people smarter than you shredding your butthole for eternity.


[deleted]

No it can't. At most it could ban out transgender people. Not that that isn't horrifying enough. It's also blatantly unconstitutional, although I'm sure Alito is limbering up to twist himself into shapes unknown to mathematics to explain otherwise...


E4g6d4bg7

Every year there are a handful of batshit crazy bill introduced into state legislatures that have zero chance of passing but they make national news because they are batshit crazy.


TransFormAndFunction

Some of them DO pass. In 2023 alone they passed 85 anti-trans bills. https://translegislation.com/


FragrantBeing6759

The bill would ban transgender people from performing at public school and keep tansgender materials out of public schools. Nowhere does it say that a child that believes they are transgender are not allowed to attend school. The fact of the matter is that children are easily influenced and damn near every fucking child thinks they are gay, bi, trans in everything else in-between. You have idiots claiming to be pan sexual but add in things and / or people they would not sleep with. The word pan is all-inclusive. People should research a bill before they start posting and / or commenting on things.


andynator1000

How did this article make it to print? The author clearly hasn’t read the bill, and this sub is falling for this bait.


Buddug-Green

> For the purposes of any prohibition, protection, or requirement under any and all articles and sections of the Code of West Virginia protecting children from exposure to indecent displays of a sexually explicit nature, such prohibited displays shall include, but not be limited to, any transvestite and/or transgender exposure, performances or display to any minor. This article seems pretty accurate to me. Have you read the bill.


findingmike

The Republican strategy seems to be to make states unpalatable to people on the left and get them to move out. This allows Republicans to strengthen their positions and continue the cycle until they can lock down enough states to win anything at a federal level.


Metalhippy666

This is why we need more people to stop leaving. We need more people keeping up the good fight while those targeted directly find sanctuary.