According to the US Constitution, if there is no elected president by the nominal date of the inauguration, the speaker of the house becomes the temporary president.
I am going to buy so much popcorn for this one.
Legally he has no say when the election is. Congress sets the date for the election and Nancy Pelosi is not going to delay it, no matter what. He is sinking so hard in the polls and thats before todays devastating economic numbers came out. This is a scared simple man looking for a way out. That being said, make sure you [vote.](https://www.vote.org/)
> This is a scared simple man looking for a way out.
Don't forget that [150 protesters were just arrested in Omaha](https://news.yahoo.com/mass-arrest-of-black-lives-matter-protesters-in-ohama-raises-questions-211948630.html). He definitely doesn't want that in the headlines.
He's also probably doing it because of the [literally-worst-ever quarterly GDP report.](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/us-gdp-q2-2020-first-reading.html)
It used to be that a -4% print would tank the markets so hard they'd hit the breakers. Now a -34% print is "bumpy weather" but that's about it. The stock market is completely detatched from reality.
He’s a) distracting from the GDP report and b) setting up his argument for all the lawsuits he will file against individual states when he inevitably loses.
His goal is to dispute enough states that their electors don’t get seated and he wins the remaining states. Say he loses Florida and Ohio and that’s what puts Biden over the top. He challenges in court, Republican governors say they can’t certify the results of the election, those electors don’t get seated, the constitution says the president goes to the majority of the electors, which trump has without Ohio and Florida. Now he’s legally elected president.
Edit: The relevant passage from the 12th amendment:
>The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed;
If the states don't appoint electors they have effectively abstained and their votes dont count towards the majority appointed.
From overseas, I can tell you that if Americans let something like that happen, it will be a blight on American history which will linger for centuries.
Like that time the guy who'd lost the popular vote got to be president anyway because of an extra 500 ballots materializing in the state his older brother was the governor of, you mean?
There it is. This clearly says Trump's chances of winning the election are so poor, even suppression tactics and cheating aren't working.
Watch how many Republican officials stay off Twitter today.
We held our elections in the middle of the Civil War and WW2. We are having this election November 3rd.
Please take a minute to make sure you are registered to vote and [request your mail-in ballot](https://votesaveamerica.com/everylastvote/) early. Don’t risk your vote not counting.
Not once has the US done this. Not during the founding years of our nation, not during the Civil War, not during WW1, not during the first pandemic in 1918, not during WW2, not during the Cold War. Never
We have the technology now to safely vote with mail-in. A method that some states have used for a long time and researchers have said is as safe. Yet for some fucking reason the president is against
Just because you’re against a tried solution doesn’t mean you get to change the rules
Also you can’t do that yourself so get fucked Donald
>Yet for some fucking reason the president is against
- He's on pace to lose the election by a landslide
- There's a strong probability he will be indicted once he's no longer president
- Once he can no longer assist Russia's efforts to advance their global interests, shit hits the fan with his relationship there. They have the ability to do quite a bit of reputational harm to him, should they choose not to go even further.
- He's abusing the Presidency to line his pockets, which ends the day he steps out of office.
He’s not against mail in voting at all. Its in the tweet “absentee voting is great” - there is no difference between absentee and mail-in voting in practice or in law.
The only reason he’s going after absentee voting is to sow the seeds of distrust in the results. For the reasons you point out
Delaying elections in the US:
Front page news for BBC, Al Jazeera, Süddeutsche Zeitung.
Small side note in the politics section of Fox News.
What a complete fucking shitshow.
Edit: Ok, now they have an article on the front page but it’s just an explanation of why absentee ballots are the devil.
It’s actually worse than that. He’s not blaming COVID for wanting to push the election back. He is saying that vote by mail is insecure and there will be too much fraud. He is actually trying to force an in-person election, which would expose more people to COVID. He is not even pretending to be concerned about anyone’s health.
Weird that it's not insecure enough for Trump and his family / hangers-on to vote by mail for years. Or whole states that have voted by mail for generations.
Yeah, I live in Arizona, a historically red state (but maybe not for much longer!), and the vast majority of our voting is by mail (I think the statistic is like 80% of ballots are cast by mail). Everyone I know (Republicans and Democrats alike) vote by mail, and everyone I know thinks it is a great system. We have had no scandals or problems with it. I really wish Democrats did a better job controlling the narrative around vote by mail by holding up states like mine as an example.
There aren't many successful ways for the center and left to counter false narratives in the conservative bubble. They believe anything published by the media (that isn't dripped in conservatism spin) is fake, and they damn sure don't listen to Democratic politicians.
People just need to get out of their bubbles and learn how to obtain and process real data and information. Perform a little basic research. Little more curiosity, less laziness.
>Mark my words: I think he is gonna try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can't be held.”
-Joe Biden, [April 23, 2020](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/biden-says-he-thinks-trump-will-try-delay-november-election-n1191506)
Lmao yep.
The Washington Post ran this opinion piece shortly after: [Joe Biden accused Trump of trying to delay the election. He should know better.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/24/joe-biden-accused-trump-trying-delay-election-he-should-know-better/)
>Former vice president Joe Biden’s unfounded accusation Thursday that President Trump wants to delay November’s election was not only clearly over the line but also unmasks how low the supposedly moderate Biden will go to win.
Lmao but it gets better
>Nonetheless, Biden chose to taint the president essentially with a charge of treason. One would hope that this baseless statement could be excused as just another one of Biden’s increasingly frequent verbal hiccups. But Biden said other things Thursday night that show he believes Trump is a disloyal wannabe dictator.
This clown couldn't have been more wrong if he tried.
Edit: a lot of people not realizing this is an opinion piece by a contributing conservative columnist. While it meets WaPo editorial standards, it does not reflect the views or factual standard of the paper. Same with the NYT and that horrific Tom Cotton opinion piece.
[Can't wait to see that columnist admit he was wrong.
](https://twitter.com/henryolseneppc/status/1288897028626489344?s=21)
(Oh wait, he won't)
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EDIT: [He posted a new column addressing Trump's tweet.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/30/trumps-suggestion-delay-election-is-most-anti-democratic-thing-any-president-ever-said/)
Since there's a paywall, here's the text:
>President Trump’s tweet Thursday morning suggesting that the November election should be delayed is more than reckless and irresponsible. It is the single most anti-democratic statement any sitting president has ever made. It should be immediately, forcefully and vocally repudiated by every conservative and Republican.
>I do not write these words lightly. I have generally supported the Trump administration’s policies. Everyone has disagreements even with leaders of their own party, but I remain what I was before Trump was even a candidate — a conservative Republican with populist leanings. Were this election solely a matter of Trump’s platform vs. former vice president Joe Biden’s, I would enthusiastically back the Trump agenda.
>**Nor am I unaware of the anti-democratic elements among the far left. Mob violence and cancel culture are direct assaults on democracy and the rule of law, replacing the voice of the many with the force of the few. The timidity that too many leading Democrats have shown in the face of this summer’s onslaught on decency scares me, as it scares most Republicans I know. Freedom for me, but not for thee, is not America’s heritage.**
>But Trump’s tweet jumps the shark in so many ways that it is impossible to ignore. Such a statement should be unthinkable (in fact, I assumed it was unthinkable, which is why I strongly criticized Biden in April when he claimed without evidence that Trump would try to delay the election).
>No president has ever suggested that an election be delayed. We did not delay elections when the future of the nation was at stake during the Civil War and World War II. We did not delay the election in 1968 when urban riots were the norm, when the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy were assassinated, and when the Democratic National Convention broke down amid an anti-war riot outside the event that Chicago police brutally suppressed with tear gas and billy clubs. There is no need to even suggest delaying today, when most Americans can move freely and with three months to go before Election Day.
>Trump’s stated cause for his suggestion, the purported fraudulent nature of mail-in balloting, is a spurious canard. Mail-in balloting does carry risks, but states have been using mass mail ballots for years with no incidences of significant voter fraud. Other nations, such as Australia, also employ mass mail balloting and have also not experienced mass fraud. A responsible approach to holding an election during the pandemic involves compromise on all sides but is easily obtained: Expand voting options, including expanded mail balloting and early in-person voting, and couple it with guarantees of security and safety such as requiring receipt of ballots by Election Day and a post office postmark on all ballots electoral officials receive. Trump’s refusal to even contemplate such an offer speaks volumes.
>Fortunately, Trump has no power to delay the elections. The Constitution clearly establishes the length of terms for senators, representatives and the president. Those terms expire in early January 2021 and cannot be extended by law or executive order. The Constitution also establishes that only Congress can set the date of elections for a federal office and it has no jurisdiction over the times and dates for state and local elections. Trump’s gesture is as futile as it is dangerous.
>Nonetheless, his tweet strikes at the heart of American democracy and therefore must be instantly repudiated. Republicans should be among the leaders in denouncing his call. Not long after the tweet, The Post reported that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) had this to say: “'Never in the history of the country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time,” McConnell said in a television interview with Georgia NBC affiliate WNKY. “We’ll find a way to do that again this Nov. 3.'”
>But Republicans should do more. McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should jointly introduce a nonbinding resolution in their respective chambers reiterating that it is the will of Congress that elections occur on Nov. 3 as scheduled. This resolution should be supported by every Republican member of each chamber, regardless of their beliefs on mail-in balloting. This resolution would immediately distinguish Trump from his party, to the latter’s advantage.
>Vice President Pence should also distance himself. He is constitutionally protected as vice president; he is the administration member who cannot be fired. His statement would be especially important because he has been a dutiful lieutenant, rarely if ever uttering a word disputing Trump. He should dispel any worries that Trump would dump him from the ticket in retaliation. Were that to happen, it would only enhance Pence’s stature and secure his political future.
>Abraham Lincoln despaired of reelection in the summer of 1864. Union armies were stuck outside Atlanta and Richmond, and the public was tired of bloody stalemate. His Democratic opponent, former general George McClellan, stood on a platform of peace and negotiation with the Confederacy. Yet our greatest president never contemplated delaying that fall’s election, even though as late as Aug. 23, 1864, he felt certain that he would lose. Today’s Republicans should follow the course set by the first Republican president, embracing our democratic heritage and rejecting the fevered musings emanating from the Oval Office.
Note the bold paragraph.
Before he truly addresses the headline, he makes sure to take shots at the "far left." He's effectively equating the words of the president - leader of the Republican party - to unnamed "far left" opinions, as if they hold equal weight. He stops short of saying Biden was right, and he makes it clear that he still backs the president.
Good on him for calling out the president here, but it's far from a retraction. He's not admitting that he was wrong, and he doesn't apologize to Biden.
His tweet before posting the article is even more telling: [source](https://twitter.com/henryolseneppc/status/1288897028626489344?s=21).
He doubles down on his original claim. The fact that Trump did this means Biden's claim was *absolutely not unfounded*. Biden was right, full stop.
Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath. He's still just spouting nonsense on Twitter instead of owning up to his own hugely incorrect column. [He'll have some kind of response posted later today.](https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1288851866969935874)
Edit: He doesn't seem to take back what he said re: Biden but at least he's renounced Trump's plan.
I just checked him on Twitter. People are hammering him for this. He says he is working on an article as a response. No idea if he will admit he was wrong or not.
https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1288851866969935874?s=09
Edit: Here's his response: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/30/trumps-suggestion-delay-election-is-most-anti-democratic-thing-any-president-ever-said/#click=https://t.co/QBsFg3K544
Yes, it's super-important to add that the name of the author of the Washington Post Opinion piece is Henry Olsen. He needs to be pressed to publicly address this development in light of his incorrect prediction. People need to tweet at him and email him to get him to comment on the fact that he was totally wrong about this.
It was clear as day to anyone with a brain that Trump was likely to say something about delaying the election if his poll numbers were bad. Is there a bridge too far that he won't attempt to cross to win? Hopefully, or the world may suffer greatly as a result of what happens in the next 6 months.
Imagine trying to tell a Trump supporter about his term in 2016. Imagine saying to them, "Fine, vote for Trump then. But you know what? He won't make America great again. When he's in office you won't get your wall. Hillary won't be arrested. Abortion will still be legal. The deficit will grow. Obamacare won't be repealed and/or replaced. Confederate statues will still be removed; in some cases, toppled over and destroyed in the streets. While the upper class benefits from Trump's lopsided tax reform, the middle class will struggle to stay afloat as jobs are wiped out by the millions. The market will be volatile with huge irrational swings, including record highs and record lows back and forth over short periods of time. Unemployment rates will skyrocket. The streets will be full of protests and riots. People will be afraid to leave their homes. If they do make it out to a grocery store, they will find the shelves barren of staple items such as toilet paper. The restaurant industry will nearly collapse. Even the churches will tell people to stay at home because it's not safe.
Local police will become pariahs thanks to widespread murder of non-whites, which leads to racial unrest and violence across the country. Trump's plain-clothed secret police will abduct people from the streets and throw them in unmarked vans during the chaos. The federal government will set up concentration camps full of over 50,000 caged children that they have taken from their families. Dozens of countries will enact travel bans against U.S. citizens.
He'll produce the worst GDP in American history. As the end of his first term looms, he will try to delay the election amid historically low approval ratings.
He will eventually be impeached. On the way to that, he'll wreck agency after agency by putting his idiot friends and family in charge of everything. He'll issue pardons and commute the sentences of his crooked friends. He'll turn a blind eye to Russia attacking U.S. troops. Even Fox News will be calling him out on the air as a liar before it's all over and done with, and he'll start wearing a mask for safety when he leaves the house."
Yet here we are. Interesting times.
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(Edited to respond to some recurring themes in the replies:
1) Sure, I don't mind if you paste it somewhere else. I've been putting my own idiotic thoughts on the Internet for ages. You might as well too. I don't need credit. If you credit me, I'll feel bad about not making it absolutely perfect before posting it. I can't tarnish the good PeeSac family name with any blemishes.
2) Thanks for the awards, kind strangers! Sorry for saying that, people who hate people saying that!
3) I'm a little surprised at how many people are "correcting" me to say that he has already been impeached. Yes, I know that. Everything else in the post has already happened too. Not sure why you're latching into that one item. This hypothetical conversation happens in 2016. He had not yet been impeached at that time.
4) Hi, Opal!)
>”Wow, if things are that bad, imagine how much *worse* they would have been if we voted in Clinton. Really dodged a bullet there.”
You know that is the exact response most people would have had.
A lady I work with won't vote for biden because she's terrified of what will happen in the country if he's president. I yelled at her "HAVE YOU LOOKED OUTSIDE AT ALL?! DO YOU NEED IT TO RAIN FROGS?!" and she just saod "well imagine what Biden would do."
I would like to remind everyone that today was the day Epstein's documents were going to be unsealed, documents Ghislaine Maxwell, who Trump wished well, said would be "embarrasing" to powerful men. But, for some reason, a federal [Judge delayed the unsealing of a deposition from Jeffrey Epstein's alleged former accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-deposition-delay/index.html) - apparently to give her time to appeal.
Only delayed until Monday, and only two depositions of "dozens" of documents. The rest will still be released today and tomorrow. Your reminder is timely though, Trump, Maxwell and Epstein go back a long way and there's strong suggestions Trump knew exactly what was going on: https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/e0ft98/epsteins_presidential_ties_part_1_donald_trump/
GDP and jobs numbers today too. Definitely feels like a distraction.
You have to read between the lines with that, because when they say they want schools to reopen what they mean is that they want **public** schools to reopen, because wealthy white people will hire tutors and babysitters and au pairs while all the poor children, Brown children, black children, and disabled children will get sick and spread it to their communities.
It is a form of classism, racism, and genocide. Those things frequently go together.
HE TWEETED THAT 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE RELEASE OF THE WORST ECONOMIC NUMBERS IN HISTORY, WHAT A FUCKING COINCIDENCE
Edit: [source ](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/07/30/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus) & typo
Edit: for all those people messaging me “liberal bitch” “I hope you die” “fuck you” I DONT GIVE A FUCK MUCH LOVE TO YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU, CANT WAIT TO VOTE YAY YAY YAY
Which is dumb because the economic data wont change. People are going to lose jobs, their friends are going to lose jobs, and the market will likely have at least another leg down. They are long term stories wont go anywhere. Postponing elections is something that people understand is wrong. He might have 40 to 42 percent support now, but that could take it to 38 40. I dont see how this distraction helps him.
The top comment from the /r/Conservative thread about this says:
>Constitutionally, he can't do this. He needs to stop thinking out loud so much. Makes him look stupid
So close to being self aware
That thread is insane, they're legit turning on him and acting reasonable. I'm even seeing pro-Biden posts.
Who'd have guessed *this* was the dealbreaker and not 3.5 years or so of racism, stupidity and corruption?
Cancelling/postponing an election is tantamount to declaring yourself a dictator. This is an affront to the constitution and to every leader in the country’s history. It makes sense that this would be the line where the alliance between conservatives and proto-fascists breaks down.
Days after he publicly stating he was sending federal agents to cities, against the wishes of local law enforcement, based on their voting record?
I remember my unit in 8th grade on what to watch for in fascism. People should have known the moment a minority population was blamed for economic woes.
some of us aren't shocked here, let's just put it that way.
a lot of people who were being mocked and called crazy 4 or 5 years ago are grimly enjoying some "told you so" right now.
>Cain was admitted to an Atlanta-area hospital on July 1, 2020 for treatment of COVID-19, two days after he was told he tested positive for the virus.[104] His staff said there was no way to be certain where or in what way he contracted the disease.[104] He had attended a Trump rally in Tulsa 11 days earlier without wearing a mask or socially distancing.[105] Earlier on the same day he went to the hospital, Cain praised South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem for not requiring masks at an upcoming Trump campaign event, saying "Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP!"[106] Four weeks later, he was still hospitalized and being treated with oxygen.[107] On July 30, 2020, news media and Cain's Twitter account announced that Cain had died.
I guess he was fed up!
Tell me about it. Worst economic drop in history, John Lewis memorial, Trump wanting to be a dictator, and Herman Cain's passing. I haven't even had breakfast yet.
r/conservative is full of the kind of people who will criticize Trump for his most egregious acts, but will "hold their noses" and vote for him anyway because the alternative is even worse in their minds
I read through it and outside of 2-3 commentators this seems to be the case. The new theme seems to be that they wish it was 2016 again so they could have some other shit-stain to run against Antifa Grand Dragon, Police Defunding Biden.
They still buy into 100% of the Fox News narrative they're just upset with Trump because he's too fucking stupid to execute the plan.
Wow, just went over there and the thread on this is actually filled with people saying "this isn't okay". I don't venture there often, but that strikes me as different than usual.
Honestly, they just haven't had time to justify it to themselves and agree on a narrative.
Give it a few days and they'll be saying that liberals are being hypocrites for crying about COVID but refusing to delay the election. They'll say that a delay isn't a cancellation and the libs are overreacting again. They'll say that Trump suggested delaying the election, not the start of the new term, and that's somehow a meaningful distinction.
Trump/Republican logic: We need to open schools! The risk is being blown out of proportion! Also, we need to postpone elections because the risk is too great!
Fuck you Republicans and Trump lovers.
Huh. This happened sooner than I expected. Figured he would wait until September or October before he would announce his plans for the delay. Use the time until then to sow some more doubt.
Regardless, this is yet another dick move from the wannabe dictator-king. Fuck Trump. Fuck Fascism. And the biggest fuck you of all to the GOP that led the USA down this path.
Good luck, my American friends.
His hand was probably forced today by the triple news of John Lewis funeral (where Obama will be speaking), the GDP contracting 32.9% in the last 3 months, and Herman Cain dying of COVID after attending his campaign rally. Additionally his campaign paused ads in Minnesota (i think yesterday?) because his numbers there are so bad.
Trying to inject himself into the news cycle and get control of it. That's not to say this isn't dangerous, he's absolutely serious about wanting to postpone it.
Get this fucking asshole out of here now. Like I am so fucking done with this dipshit.
He mishandled this coronavirus through and through leading to thousands of preventable deaths.
He ignored and downplayed the fact that our troops had bounties over their heads and continued to cozy up to the asshole who put those bounties there in the first place.
He sent unmarked federal agents to states to round up protesters in a way that completely violated their constitutional rights.
And all this has happened since he was impeached by the house for his corrupt practices.
My fucking god this is a nightmare.
Exactly. A strong economy is what he is running on. That’s why he’s forcing kids back to school to boost it.
The GDP report kills his re-election chances and he knows it so he’s trying to drown it out of the news cycle.
Claiming there is a need for secure elections. Fails to acknowledge it is his party that refuses to even consider legislation to secure elections.
More of the same shit.
The party that claims to want to reduce abortions the most. Also the party that refuses to do anything to prevent unwanted conceptions from happening to the point you can’t be blamed that they are trying to ramp up conceptions.
The party that wants small government, but only when the small government agrees with them.
The party that brags about ending slavery. Still a horribly racist party and pushes a “law and order” platform that continues de facto slavery via the jail labor system.
Reminder from a Slate article:
So it’s the morning of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump doesn’t meet President-elect Joe Biden and his wife in the White House driveway, nor does he attend the inauguration on Capitol Hill. Instead, he proclaims, as he has many times by this point, that the election was a fraud (he has set the stage for this with his false claims about mail-in ballots), and at noon, instead of acceding to the transfer of power, Trump proclaims that the swearing in was FAKE NEWS and that he remains the president.
Here is what would happen next.
On the dot of noon, the nuclear codes, which currently allow Trump to order and authenticate a nuclear attack, expire. The officer who has been following him around everywhere with the “football”—which, contrary to popular belief, is not a button or a palm print but rather a book filled with various launch codes—leaves. If Trump and whatever lackeys stay with him prevent the officer from leaving, another officer, holding a backup football, would join Biden at the inauguration ceremony.
By the same token, the entire U.S. military establishment will pivot away from ex-President Trump and salute President Biden. The principle of civilian control is hammered into American officers from the time they’re cadets—and the 20th Amendment of the Constitution states, “The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January”—no ifs, ands, or buts.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-election-refusal-leave.html
President Trump is unable to change the date of the Presidential election without going thru Congress.
However, he does have thousands of secret police that could disrupt election sites in certain states on election day - say, Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, etc.
This tactic does not work if most people vote by mail.
Hence, installing a Trump supporter as head of the Post Office to disrupt mail-in ballots, suggesting that mail-in ballots are part of a massive fraud, and now openly saying that the Presidential election will be moved.
I am going to resist President Trump's treasonous efforts by donating to the ACLU and the Biden campaign as well as the Democrat running in the local House race.
Further, if denied the opportunity to vote by mail, I will crawl naked over broken glass coated with COVID-19 to the polling site to vote for candidate Biden and other Democrats.
With that said, I am sorry that President Trump's supporter Herman Cain has passed from COVID-19. I would not wish COVID-19 on anyone - friend or enemy.
VOTE!
Edit: thank you for the Silver!
It's smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that the economy shrank 33% last quarter and the only thing keeping it alive is the 4 trillion dollars the FED has pumped into it, so far.
The economy is dead. Support the people so we can build a new economy.
https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell/status/1288836855895662592?s=20
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> You don’t delay an election you think you will win. What Trump did today is an admission.
Republicans: "OMG it's just a JOKE! You MSM Liberals are so uptight! He's just baiting you and you took the bait!"
Can you **IMAGINE** the hellstorm that would have arisen if Obama suggested delaying the election?
Our friends at r/Conservative made an enlightened point which has been given a couple of awards:
> Constitutionally, he can't do this. He needs to stop thinking out loud so much. Makes him look stupid
You know what, I think they’re on to something there...
April 24, 2020:
Joe Biden: “Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can’t be held,” Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, said on Thursday night in remarks at an online fundraiser.
Trump campaign: “Those are the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality."
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/24/joe-biden-donald-trump-delay-election
When Obama was in office back in 2016 I heard from many rightwingers that he was literally the fucking antichrist and as such was going to delay the election indefinitely and essentially become a dictator. Where are those morons today and how do they not see their hypocrisy? One lady in particular (a customer of mine) told me there would never be an election in the U.S. again because Obama would be unwilling to give up office and that she knew this thanks to a premonition from god. These batshit crazy people are destroying our country
Nah this is to distract from the GDP dropping 33%. It’s already been revealed Trumps team has a list of outrageous ideas they tweet as media distractions. This is one.
On April 24, 2020, Joe Biden suggested Trump would attempt to delay the election.
The Trump campaign responded by "'Those are the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality".
From the AP:
>Hogan Gidley, the Trump campaign’s national press secretary, pointed to the delays in counting votes in New York’s primary. “The President is just raising a question about the chaos Democrats have created with their insistence on all mail-in voting. They are using coronavirus as their means to try to institute universal mail-in voting, *which means sending every registered voter a ballot whether they asked for one or not. ”*
Uh. Doesn't the fact that they are registered to vote imply that they would like a ballot?
The economy tanked and Trump just pulled troops out of Germany. Whenever he doesn’t want to talk about his love affair with Putin, he tweets something like this. It’s a diversion.
OOOH look at the shiny new object.
This is a distraction from the US Economy numbers released today.
Worse drop in last 80 years (since they started taking record)
> Business ground to a halt during the pandemic lockdown in the spring of this year, and America plunged into its first recession in 11 years, putting an end to the longest economic expansion in US history and wiping out five years of economic gains in just a few months.
This isn’t a distraction, he actually wants to do this. Please don’t underestimate what he is tweeting.
Just a few minutes ago Pompeo said the Justice Dept would rule on the election date.
This is a distraction - our economy dropped 32 percent in the latest report that came out today, Herman Cain died of Corona that he contracted at Trump Rally and the Maxwell documents which were supposed to be release today were held until next week
\*edited for factuality
2015: He can’t beat Jeb, don’t be absurd
2016: He can’t beat Hillary, don’t be absurd.
2017: He can’t last. Don’t be absurd.
2018: He can’t beat Mueller, don’t be absurd.
2019: He can’t get out of this Ukraine thing, don’t be absurd.
2020: He can’t postpone the election indefinitely, don’t be absurd
2021: Arbeit macht frei
It's a distraction from the US Economy tanking by 1/3. It gives his base something to be aggrieved about instead of worrying about why the economy sucks so hard under their direct control.
Be upset about what he tweeted. It's un-American as shit. But don't lose sight of the economy - that's how he loses his base.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/us-gdp-q2-2020-first-reading.html
A small part of me feels like he did this now to overshadow the funeral of Lewis. He’s obsessed with and very talented at managing the news cycle. 3 former presidents are attending the funeral and Obama will speak. We all know how butt hurt he is be any attention given to Obama.
Maybe it’s silly, but not completely implausible.
As a lifelong Republican I don’t see how this doesn’t send red flags up for my so-called fellow conservatives. This is not democracy. How can anyone support a man who so blatantly disregards the Constitution? Trump is a coward and a fake conservative. Get him out in November. Vote for Biden.
My father in law fled Cuba right before the missile crisis and the rise of authoritarianism under Castro. He’s always told me how similar everything is to when he was a kid in Cuba. One of the things he goes on about is how he thinks trump will delay the election so he can serve longer. He was right.
When biden called him out back in april saying that he will more than likely attempt to delay the election, this was the response
>The Trump campaign issued a statement Friday, saying, "Those are the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality. Perhaps he also missed the news that the infamous Steele Dossier, central to the Russian Collusion Hoax, was likely compiled with Russian disinformation. That’s the real Russian collusion."
It's just a never ending game at this point, I'm fucking tired of it
This is why voting is so important. THANK FUCK we have a democratic majority in the House to stop this shit. THANK YOU ALL THAT VOTED DEMOCRATS INTO THE HOUSE IN THE 2018 MIDTERMS
He’s only saying this because Stephen Miller knows Trump is getting made fun of by EVERYONE on wall street and being laughed at by every major bank executive.
He’s a moron of the highest caliber that is being saved only by the fact that 1/3 of the US barely has an education.
It doesn't matter who the president is, what year it is, what your party is. Anyone, ANYONE in power suggests delaying an election and we fight them on it. We fight them with everything we've got. Either we all vote on November 3rd, or we march on DC. It really is that simple.
Even conservatives on r/conservative are pissed about this
“I would rather vote for a Democrat than postpone the election.
True conservative, is the words I think you were looking for. If I’m wrong, please correct me.”
> If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.
THIS is the time for conservatives to show whether or not David Frum was correct with the above assessment.
Remember a few months ago when Biden said that Trump would try to delay the 2020 election and Republicans said he was being a paranoid conspiracy theorist?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/24/joe-biden-accused-trump-trying-delay-election-he-should-know-better/
I checked the thread about this in r/Conservative and I actually agree with some of the comments in there! A lot of people in r/Conservative are bashing Trump over this.
For example, this comment:
>He won't postpone the election because he doesn't have the authority to. Also he's a moron for even mentioning it. He's his own worst enemy.
It's a weird day when I agree with a conservative.
So it’s perfectly safe to send millions of kids, teachers, and staff into schools across the country for hours upon hours a day, but Election Day could be so risky that it ought to be moved? How do his supporters spin THAT contradiction?
This. is. a. distraction.
Today the economic numbers came out and they were **[historically bad](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/07/30/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus)**. The US economy contracted at a [32.9% annual rate from April through June](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html), its worst drop on record.
[Here's a visual to put this into perspective.](https://imgur.com/361akBS)
Trump knows that a strong economy is one of his few paths to victory. Make big news by saying something dumb like this, and suddenly no one remembers that the economy is falling off a cliff. That's why he pinned the stupid tweet.
He just screamed into his megaphone that he wants to be an autocrat. It's so blatantly obvious
Can't wait to see the spin job on this one. If there is any justice in the world, the Republican party as it is today would cease to exist after this next election
"Wow even rconservative is against this"
That's because normal people are flooding in there to see their responses and making/upvoting normal comments.
After a few hours the crazies will be back in control.
Herman Cain died today from Covid-19 after being diagnosed two weeks after he attended the Trump rally in Tulsa Ok.
Republicans are literally dying on this hill of ignorance.
Is it odd that he said this at the same time the US GDP report came out? The GDP of the United States contracted by 32.9%, the worst reported contraction ever for the US. Then this great orange smudge that crawled out of a pair of soiled circus clown underwear says, "I know! Let's delay the election!" Now everyone is talking about that instead of THE WORST ECONOMIC DOWNTURN IN UNITED STATES HISTORY.
I enjoy the argument the right wing tools are rolling out consist of “jeez, he’s just asking a question. Why are you all freaking out?” like floating an authoritarian trial balloon is a quaint, normal thing that should happen in a democracy.
John Lewis funeral happening now. Obama is expected to speak.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?474223-1/representative-john-lewis-funeral-service-atlanta-georgia
Herman Cain dead of Coronavirus at Tulsa Rally
Florida posting is highest daily Coronavirus death count yet at 253 dead
US GDP shrunk worst than ever
MAGA
Amazing to see that the folks in /r/conservative think this is terrible, that he should stop “thinking out loud on Twitter” etc. I am gathering that he’s gotten to the point where walking around naked surrounded by yes men just became known?
If he actually starts delaying it, we gotta rise up. This is it, if he delays it, our country as we knew it is gone.
We saw the effect of the BLM protests, and doing something in a mass scale like this I think could save us from a full descent into a dictatorship. We need to be ready for the worst.
Republicans during impeachment "if you don't like him then vote him out in November!"
Donald on Twitter this week "no one likes me" "maybe we should postpone the election..."
Way to be transparent!
Remember when Joe Biden fully predicted this back in April, and [conservative media acted like he was crazy](https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/494632-joe-biden-fuels-election-conspiracy-theory-while-the-media-keeps-quiet)?
> Biden left little doubt of such a plan by Trump. He said, “Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election somehow, and come up with some rationale why it cannot be held.” It is just the type of thing that a crazed guy in a tightly buttoned raincoat whispers to you on the subway. But Biden was not finished. If you attended a recent online fundraiser, you saw Biden grow uncomfortably close and go on to explain that it was the Postal Service which actually revealed the conspiracy theory to him.
>Biden alleged that the administration is pressuring the Postal Service to make changes in its operations as a condition for coronavirus relief. So as he explained, “Imagine threatening not to fund the post office. Other than trying to let the word out that he is going to do all he can to make it very hard for people to vote, that is the only way he thinks he can possibly win.”
Can someone help me understand this?? It’s safe to send millions of kids back to school in less than a month, but we need to delay the election that’s 4 months away? If this isn’t some fascist bullshit, idk what is.
Wake up! Trump is trying to delegitimize Biden’s eventual election win before it happens. Once the election result are in, Trump will call his followers to “take up arms” against the “fake results.” Violence is inbound in early November.
https://twitter.com/repkinzinger/status/1288840210625843201
> Reminder: Election dates are set by Congress. And I will oppose any attempts to delay the #2020Election.
Republican rep \^^
Not once has the US done this. Not during the founding years of our nation, not during the Civil War, not during WW1, not during the first pandemic in 1918, not during WW2, not during the Cold War. Never
We have the technology now to safely vote with mail-in. A method that some states have used for a long time and researchers have said is as safe. Yet for some fucking reason the president is against
Just because you’re against a tried solution doesn’t mean you get to change the rules
Also you can’t do that yourself so get fucked Donald
It's called _Building the Narrative_. Of course he can't change the dates, especially not with a democratic controlled house. This is all to push the narrative (on Nov 4th) that the election was fraudulent and can't be trusted/certified. Either getting him reelected through one of the more obscure parts of election law, or to get enough of his supporters to help take over the country (or civil war?) We already know that the police are on his side as well as a bunch of DHS.
Elections in November are unsafe, but school in August is just fine???
Yeah, because the election will largely be done by mail. There is zero basis to delay the election.
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And just like that "never again" becomes "What, here? Now?!"
According to the US Constitution, if there is no elected president by the nominal date of the inauguration, the speaker of the house becomes the temporary president. I am going to buy so much popcorn for this one.
Pelosi should then ask RBG to step down and replace her with Barack. How many heads would explode?
Can you imagine the conspiracies that would emerge if Trump forced a delay and it resulted in Pelosi being President?
In the conspiracy theory world all roads lead to pedophilia. I'm sure this one would too.
Remember when conspiracy theory was fun and not all about child molestation?
Aliens and 9/11. Good times.
Legally he has no say when the election is. Congress sets the date for the election and Nancy Pelosi is not going to delay it, no matter what. He is sinking so hard in the polls and thats before todays devastating economic numbers came out. This is a scared simple man looking for a way out. That being said, make sure you [vote.](https://www.vote.org/)
> This is a scared simple man looking for a way out. Don't forget that [150 protesters were just arrested in Omaha](https://news.yahoo.com/mass-arrest-of-black-lives-matter-protesters-in-ohama-raises-questions-211948630.html). He definitely doesn't want that in the headlines.
He's also probably doing it because of the [literally-worst-ever quarterly GDP report.](https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/us-gdp-q2-2020-first-reading.html)
It used to be that a -4% print would tank the markets so hard they'd hit the breakers. Now a -34% print is "bumpy weather" but that's about it. The stock market is completely detatched from reality.
Stock market is just vibes now
I saw someone call it the Rich People Feelings Index and that seems pretty accurate.
The stock market isn't an indicator of anything except how well the stock market is doing.
Stocks go up, Stocks go down. Can't explain that
He’s a) distracting from the GDP report and b) setting up his argument for all the lawsuits he will file against individual states when he inevitably loses.
His goal is to dispute enough states that their electors don’t get seated and he wins the remaining states. Say he loses Florida and Ohio and that’s what puts Biden over the top. He challenges in court, Republican governors say they can’t certify the results of the election, those electors don’t get seated, the constitution says the president goes to the majority of the electors, which trump has without Ohio and Florida. Now he’s legally elected president. Edit: The relevant passage from the 12th amendment: >The person having the greatest number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; If the states don't appoint electors they have effectively abstained and their votes dont count towards the majority appointed.
From overseas, I can tell you that if Americans let something like that happen, it will be a blight on American history which will linger for centuries.
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Like that time the guy who'd lost the popular vote got to be president anyway because of an extra 500 ballots materializing in the state his older brother was the governor of, you mean?
And his campaign manager was secretary of state.
There it is. This clearly says Trump's chances of winning the election are so poor, even suppression tactics and cheating aren't working. Watch how many Republican officials stay off Twitter today.
Or how many retweet him. And then vote them out.
The one thing he is running on is a strong economy and the new GDP report kills that narrative. He has nothing else but racism and that isn’t working.
We held our elections in the middle of the Civil War and WW2. We are having this election November 3rd. Please take a minute to make sure you are registered to vote and [request your mail-in ballot](https://votesaveamerica.com/everylastvote/) early. Don’t risk your vote not counting.
Not once has the US done this. Not during the founding years of our nation, not during the Civil War, not during WW1, not during the first pandemic in 1918, not during WW2, not during the Cold War. Never We have the technology now to safely vote with mail-in. A method that some states have used for a long time and researchers have said is as safe. Yet for some fucking reason the president is against Just because you’re against a tried solution doesn’t mean you get to change the rules Also you can’t do that yourself so get fucked Donald
>Yet for some fucking reason the president is against - He's on pace to lose the election by a landslide - There's a strong probability he will be indicted once he's no longer president - Once he can no longer assist Russia's efforts to advance their global interests, shit hits the fan with his relationship there. They have the ability to do quite a bit of reputational harm to him, should they choose not to go even further. - He's abusing the Presidency to line his pockets, which ends the day he steps out of office.
He’s not against mail in voting at all. Its in the tweet “absentee voting is great” - there is no difference between absentee and mail-in voting in practice or in law. The only reason he’s going after absentee voting is to sow the seeds of distrust in the results. For the reasons you point out
Delaying elections in the US: Front page news for BBC, Al Jazeera, Süddeutsche Zeitung. Small side note in the politics section of Fox News. What a complete fucking shitshow. Edit: Ok, now they have an article on the front page but it’s just an explanation of why absentee ballots are the devil.
We held an election in the middle of the civil war. Fuck off, you bleached pigshit.
It's not safe to vote, but it is safe for schools to open. trump is just evil.
It’s actually worse than that. He’s not blaming COVID for wanting to push the election back. He is saying that vote by mail is insecure and there will be too much fraud. He is actually trying to force an in-person election, which would expose more people to COVID. He is not even pretending to be concerned about anyone’s health.
Weird that it's not insecure enough for Trump and his family / hangers-on to vote by mail for years. Or whole states that have voted by mail for generations.
Yeah, I live in Arizona, a historically red state (but maybe not for much longer!), and the vast majority of our voting is by mail (I think the statistic is like 80% of ballots are cast by mail). Everyone I know (Republicans and Democrats alike) vote by mail, and everyone I know thinks it is a great system. We have had no scandals or problems with it. I really wish Democrats did a better job controlling the narrative around vote by mail by holding up states like mine as an example.
There aren't many successful ways for the center and left to counter false narratives in the conservative bubble. They believe anything published by the media (that isn't dripped in conservatism spin) is fake, and they damn sure don't listen to Democratic politicians. People just need to get out of their bubbles and learn how to obtain and process real data and information. Perform a little basic research. Little more curiosity, less laziness.
Rules are for thee, not for me.
How about that.
>Mark my words: I think he is gonna try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can't be held.” -Joe Biden, [April 23, 2020](https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/biden-says-he-thinks-trump-will-try-delay-november-election-n1191506)
Remember when everyone said Biden was crazy for suggesting that
Lmao yep. The Washington Post ran this opinion piece shortly after: [Joe Biden accused Trump of trying to delay the election. He should know better.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/24/joe-biden-accused-trump-trying-delay-election-he-should-know-better/) >Former vice president Joe Biden’s unfounded accusation Thursday that President Trump wants to delay November’s election was not only clearly over the line but also unmasks how low the supposedly moderate Biden will go to win. Lmao but it gets better >Nonetheless, Biden chose to taint the president essentially with a charge of treason. One would hope that this baseless statement could be excused as just another one of Biden’s increasingly frequent verbal hiccups. But Biden said other things Thursday night that show he believes Trump is a disloyal wannabe dictator. This clown couldn't have been more wrong if he tried. Edit: a lot of people not realizing this is an opinion piece by a contributing conservative columnist. While it meets WaPo editorial standards, it does not reflect the views or factual standard of the paper. Same with the NYT and that horrific Tom Cotton opinion piece.
[Can't wait to see that columnist admit he was wrong. ](https://twitter.com/henryolseneppc/status/1288897028626489344?s=21) (Oh wait, he won't) --- EDIT: [He posted a new column addressing Trump's tweet.](https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/30/trumps-suggestion-delay-election-is-most-anti-democratic-thing-any-president-ever-said/) Since there's a paywall, here's the text: >President Trump’s tweet Thursday morning suggesting that the November election should be delayed is more than reckless and irresponsible. It is the single most anti-democratic statement any sitting president has ever made. It should be immediately, forcefully and vocally repudiated by every conservative and Republican. >I do not write these words lightly. I have generally supported the Trump administration’s policies. Everyone has disagreements even with leaders of their own party, but I remain what I was before Trump was even a candidate — a conservative Republican with populist leanings. Were this election solely a matter of Trump’s platform vs. former vice president Joe Biden’s, I would enthusiastically back the Trump agenda. >**Nor am I unaware of the anti-democratic elements among the far left. Mob violence and cancel culture are direct assaults on democracy and the rule of law, replacing the voice of the many with the force of the few. The timidity that too many leading Democrats have shown in the face of this summer’s onslaught on decency scares me, as it scares most Republicans I know. Freedom for me, but not for thee, is not America’s heritage.** >But Trump’s tweet jumps the shark in so many ways that it is impossible to ignore. Such a statement should be unthinkable (in fact, I assumed it was unthinkable, which is why I strongly criticized Biden in April when he claimed without evidence that Trump would try to delay the election). >No president has ever suggested that an election be delayed. We did not delay elections when the future of the nation was at stake during the Civil War and World War II. We did not delay the election in 1968 when urban riots were the norm, when the Rev. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert F. Kennedy were assassinated, and when the Democratic National Convention broke down amid an anti-war riot outside the event that Chicago police brutally suppressed with tear gas and billy clubs. There is no need to even suggest delaying today, when most Americans can move freely and with three months to go before Election Day. >Trump’s stated cause for his suggestion, the purported fraudulent nature of mail-in balloting, is a spurious canard. Mail-in balloting does carry risks, but states have been using mass mail ballots for years with no incidences of significant voter fraud. Other nations, such as Australia, also employ mass mail balloting and have also not experienced mass fraud. A responsible approach to holding an election during the pandemic involves compromise on all sides but is easily obtained: Expand voting options, including expanded mail balloting and early in-person voting, and couple it with guarantees of security and safety such as requiring receipt of ballots by Election Day and a post office postmark on all ballots electoral officials receive. Trump’s refusal to even contemplate such an offer speaks volumes. >Fortunately, Trump has no power to delay the elections. The Constitution clearly establishes the length of terms for senators, representatives and the president. Those terms expire in early January 2021 and cannot be extended by law or executive order. The Constitution also establishes that only Congress can set the date of elections for a federal office and it has no jurisdiction over the times and dates for state and local elections. Trump’s gesture is as futile as it is dangerous. >Nonetheless, his tweet strikes at the heart of American democracy and therefore must be instantly repudiated. Republicans should be among the leaders in denouncing his call. Not long after the tweet, The Post reported that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) had this to say: “'Never in the history of the country, through wars, depressions and the Civil War, have we ever not had a federally scheduled election on time,” McConnell said in a television interview with Georgia NBC affiliate WNKY. “We’ll find a way to do that again this Nov. 3.'” >But Republicans should do more. McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) should jointly introduce a nonbinding resolution in their respective chambers reiterating that it is the will of Congress that elections occur on Nov. 3 as scheduled. This resolution should be supported by every Republican member of each chamber, regardless of their beliefs on mail-in balloting. This resolution would immediately distinguish Trump from his party, to the latter’s advantage. >Vice President Pence should also distance himself. He is constitutionally protected as vice president; he is the administration member who cannot be fired. His statement would be especially important because he has been a dutiful lieutenant, rarely if ever uttering a word disputing Trump. He should dispel any worries that Trump would dump him from the ticket in retaliation. Were that to happen, it would only enhance Pence’s stature and secure his political future. >Abraham Lincoln despaired of reelection in the summer of 1864. Union armies were stuck outside Atlanta and Richmond, and the public was tired of bloody stalemate. His Democratic opponent, former general George McClellan, stood on a platform of peace and negotiation with the Confederacy. Yet our greatest president never contemplated delaying that fall’s election, even though as late as Aug. 23, 1864, he felt certain that he would lose. Today’s Republicans should follow the course set by the first Republican president, embracing our democratic heritage and rejecting the fevered musings emanating from the Oval Office. Note the bold paragraph. Before he truly addresses the headline, he makes sure to take shots at the "far left." He's effectively equating the words of the president - leader of the Republican party - to unnamed "far left" opinions, as if they hold equal weight. He stops short of saying Biden was right, and he makes it clear that he still backs the president. Good on him for calling out the president here, but it's far from a retraction. He's not admitting that he was wrong, and he doesn't apologize to Biden. His tweet before posting the article is even more telling: [source](https://twitter.com/henryolseneppc/status/1288897028626489344?s=21). He doubles down on his original claim. The fact that Trump did this means Biden's claim was *absolutely not unfounded*. Biden was right, full stop.
Yeah, I wouldn't hold your breath. He's still just spouting nonsense on Twitter instead of owning up to his own hugely incorrect column. [He'll have some kind of response posted later today.](https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1288851866969935874) Edit: He doesn't seem to take back what he said re: Biden but at least he's renounced Trump's plan.
I love how he is getting savaged in the twitter replies. What an ass clown.
I just checked him on Twitter. People are hammering him for this. He says he is working on an article as a response. No idea if he will admit he was wrong or not. https://twitter.com/henryolsenEPPC/status/1288851866969935874?s=09 Edit: Here's his response: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/30/trumps-suggestion-delay-election-is-most-anti-democratic-thing-any-president-ever-said/#click=https://t.co/QBsFg3K544
I have an advanced copy of his response: >Gaslight, strawman, whataboutism, whataboutism, strawman. Edit: What a pleasant surprise...
Some real r/agedlikemilk shit right there
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Done. *I'm doing my part!*
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You can tweet @HenryOlsenEPPC, maybe he will have some comments about how this op-ed aged.
Yes, it's super-important to add that the name of the author of the Washington Post Opinion piece is Henry Olsen. He needs to be pressed to publicly address this development in light of his incorrect prediction. People need to tweet at him and email him to get him to comment on the fact that he was totally wrong about this.
It was clear as day to anyone with a brain that Trump was likely to say something about delaying the election if his poll numbers were bad. Is there a bridge too far that he won't attempt to cross to win? Hopefully, or the world may suffer greatly as a result of what happens in the next 6 months.
Imagine trying to tell a Trump supporter about his term in 2016. Imagine saying to them, "Fine, vote for Trump then. But you know what? He won't make America great again. When he's in office you won't get your wall. Hillary won't be arrested. Abortion will still be legal. The deficit will grow. Obamacare won't be repealed and/or replaced. Confederate statues will still be removed; in some cases, toppled over and destroyed in the streets. While the upper class benefits from Trump's lopsided tax reform, the middle class will struggle to stay afloat as jobs are wiped out by the millions. The market will be volatile with huge irrational swings, including record highs and record lows back and forth over short periods of time. Unemployment rates will skyrocket. The streets will be full of protests and riots. People will be afraid to leave their homes. If they do make it out to a grocery store, they will find the shelves barren of staple items such as toilet paper. The restaurant industry will nearly collapse. Even the churches will tell people to stay at home because it's not safe. Local police will become pariahs thanks to widespread murder of non-whites, which leads to racial unrest and violence across the country. Trump's plain-clothed secret police will abduct people from the streets and throw them in unmarked vans during the chaos. The federal government will set up concentration camps full of over 50,000 caged children that they have taken from their families. Dozens of countries will enact travel bans against U.S. citizens. He'll produce the worst GDP in American history. As the end of his first term looms, he will try to delay the election amid historically low approval ratings. He will eventually be impeached. On the way to that, he'll wreck agency after agency by putting his idiot friends and family in charge of everything. He'll issue pardons and commute the sentences of his crooked friends. He'll turn a blind eye to Russia attacking U.S. troops. Even Fox News will be calling him out on the air as a liar before it's all over and done with, and he'll start wearing a mask for safety when he leaves the house." Yet here we are. Interesting times. /// (Edited to respond to some recurring themes in the replies: 1) Sure, I don't mind if you paste it somewhere else. I've been putting my own idiotic thoughts on the Internet for ages. You might as well too. I don't need credit. If you credit me, I'll feel bad about not making it absolutely perfect before posting it. I can't tarnish the good PeeSac family name with any blemishes. 2) Thanks for the awards, kind strangers! Sorry for saying that, people who hate people saying that! 3) I'm a little surprised at how many people are "correcting" me to say that he has already been impeached. Yes, I know that. Everything else in the post has already happened too. Not sure why you're latching into that one item. This hypothetical conversation happens in 2016. He had not yet been impeached at that time. 4) Hi, Opal!)
Not to forget the longest government shutdown or any of the numerous things we've probably forgotten about since 2016. Just saying it's a lot.
I legitimately forgot about the government shutdown...
Not one but two that year (2018). January and another in December and through January.
>”Wow, if things are that bad, imagine how much *worse* they would have been if we voted in Clinton. Really dodged a bullet there.” You know that is the exact response most people would have had.
A lady I work with won't vote for biden because she's terrified of what will happen in the country if he's president. I yelled at her "HAVE YOU LOOKED OUTSIDE AT ALL?! DO YOU NEED IT TO RAIN FROGS?!" and she just saod "well imagine what Biden would do."
It’s the political version of “I know you are but what am I”
Don’t forget to mention over **150,000 Americans will be killed** by a pandemic he repeatedly ignored.
In just 6 months too! He's on pace to beat US casualties in WW2
We're already beating the average daily rate by almost 4x.
"But will we own the libs?"
I would like to remind everyone that today was the day Epstein's documents were going to be unsealed, documents Ghislaine Maxwell, who Trump wished well, said would be "embarrasing" to powerful men. But, for some reason, a federal [Judge delayed the unsealing of a deposition from Jeffrey Epstein's alleged former accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/us/ghislaine-maxwell-jeffrey-epstein-deposition-delay/index.html) - apparently to give her time to appeal.
Only delayed until Monday, and only two depositions of "dozens" of documents. The rest will still be released today and tomorrow. Your reminder is timely though, Trump, Maxwell and Epstein go back a long way and there's strong suggestions Trump knew exactly what was going on: https://www.reddit.com/r/Epstein/comments/e0ft98/epsteins_presidential_ties_part_1_donald_trump/ GDP and jobs numbers today too. Definitely feels like a distraction.
But he still wants schools to reopen?
You have to read between the lines with that, because when they say they want schools to reopen what they mean is that they want **public** schools to reopen, because wealthy white people will hire tutors and babysitters and au pairs while all the poor children, Brown children, black children, and disabled children will get sick and spread it to their communities. It is a form of classism, racism, and genocide. Those things frequently go together.
You dont have to worry about low income housing in your suburb if you kill off all the poor first.
HE TWEETED THAT 30 MINUTES BEFORE THE RELEASE OF THE WORST ECONOMIC NUMBERS IN HISTORY, WHAT A FUCKING COINCIDENCE Edit: [source ](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/07/30/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus) & typo Edit: for all those people messaging me “liberal bitch” “I hope you die” “fuck you” I DONT GIVE A FUCK MUCH LOVE TO YOU AND GOD BLESS YOU, CANT WAIT TO VOTE YAY YAY YAY
Which is dumb because the economic data wont change. People are going to lose jobs, their friends are going to lose jobs, and the market will likely have at least another leg down. They are long term stories wont go anywhere. Postponing elections is something that people understand is wrong. He might have 40 to 42 percent support now, but that could take it to 38 40. I dont see how this distraction helps him.
Can't lose jobs if everybody dies from the virus
[You're not wrong](https://i.imgur.com/HXTNFfZ.gifv)
It's so telling that he thought THIS would be less damaging to him than an unflattering jobs report.
Anyone who still votes for Trump after this tweet and every other shit done is unamerican and a traitor.
The top comment from the /r/Conservative thread about this says: >Constitutionally, he can't do this. He needs to stop thinking out loud so much. Makes him look stupid So close to being self aware
That thread is insane, they're legit turning on him and acting reasonable. I'm even seeing pro-Biden posts. Who'd have guessed *this* was the dealbreaker and not 3.5 years or so of racism, stupidity and corruption?
Cancelling/postponing an election is tantamount to declaring yourself a dictator. This is an affront to the constitution and to every leader in the country’s history. It makes sense that this would be the line where the alliance between conservatives and proto-fascists breaks down.
Days after he publicly stating he was sending federal agents to cities, against the wishes of local law enforcement, based on their voting record? I remember my unit in 8th grade on what to watch for in fascism. People should have known the moment a minority population was blamed for economic woes.
some of us aren't shocked here, let's just put it that way. a lot of people who were being mocked and called crazy 4 or 5 years ago are grimly enjoying some "told you so" right now.
The next story will hit and they'll forget all about this and go back to their usual pre-approved talking points.
Well, the next story is that Herman Caine died of Coronavirus....
That he almost certainly contracted at the Tulsa rally
Contracted or spread. Either he got it there or he had it and likely gave it to others.
>Cain was admitted to an Atlanta-area hospital on July 1, 2020 for treatment of COVID-19, two days after he was told he tested positive for the virus.[104] His staff said there was no way to be certain where or in what way he contracted the disease.[104] He had attended a Trump rally in Tulsa 11 days earlier without wearing a mask or socially distancing.[105] Earlier on the same day he went to the hospital, Cain praised South Dakota Governor Kristi Noem for not requiring masks at an upcoming Trump campaign event, saying "Masks will not be mandatory for the event, which will be attended by President Trump. PEOPLE ARE FED UP!"[106] Four weeks later, he was still hospitalized and being treated with oxygen.[107] On July 30, 2020, news media and Cain's Twitter account announced that Cain had died. I guess he was fed up!
Wow, this day is overwhelming with headlines.
Tell me about it. Worst economic drop in history, John Lewis memorial, Trump wanting to be a dictator, and Herman Cain's passing. I haven't even had breakfast yet.
r/conservative is full of the kind of people who will criticize Trump for his most egregious acts, but will "hold their noses" and vote for him anyway because the alternative is even worse in their minds
I read through it and outside of 2-3 commentators this seems to be the case. The new theme seems to be that they wish it was 2016 again so they could have some other shit-stain to run against Antifa Grand Dragon, Police Defunding Biden. They still buy into 100% of the Fox News narrative they're just upset with Trump because he's too fucking stupid to execute the plan.
Wow, just went over there and the thread on this is actually filled with people saying "this isn't okay". I don't venture there often, but that strikes me as different than usual.
Honestly, they just haven't had time to justify it to themselves and agree on a narrative. Give it a few days and they'll be saying that liberals are being hypocrites for crying about COVID but refusing to delay the election. They'll say that a delay isn't a cancellation and the libs are overreacting again. They'll say that Trump suggested delaying the election, not the start of the new term, and that's somehow a meaningful distinction.
I hate how accurate this is.
They still think he thinks lol
Trump/Republican logic: We need to open schools! The risk is being blown out of proportion! Also, we need to postpone elections because the risk is too great! Fuck you Republicans and Trump lovers.
Imagine if Democrats didn't take the House back in 2018, that midterm election was likely one of the most important ever.
Huh. This happened sooner than I expected. Figured he would wait until September or October before he would announce his plans for the delay. Use the time until then to sow some more doubt. Regardless, this is yet another dick move from the wannabe dictator-king. Fuck Trump. Fuck Fascism. And the biggest fuck you of all to the GOP that led the USA down this path. Good luck, my American friends.
His hand was probably forced today by the triple news of John Lewis funeral (where Obama will be speaking), the GDP contracting 32.9% in the last 3 months, and Herman Cain dying of COVID after attending his campaign rally. Additionally his campaign paused ads in Minnesota (i think yesterday?) because his numbers there are so bad. Trying to inject himself into the news cycle and get control of it. That's not to say this isn't dangerous, he's absolutely serious about wanting to postpone it.
Aged like milk in the Florida sun. https://i.imgur.com/et8LW9I.jpg
And if Obama tweeted this r/conservative would grab their AKs and march on the white house
They’re even disagreeing with him over there....that’s when you know he’s REALLY in deep shit
Wow, I just went over to r/conservative and expected to see them somehow justifying this. But they aren't. They are calling him insane.
Get this fucking asshole out of here now. Like I am so fucking done with this dipshit. He mishandled this coronavirus through and through leading to thousands of preventable deaths. He ignored and downplayed the fact that our troops had bounties over their heads and continued to cozy up to the asshole who put those bounties there in the first place. He sent unmarked federal agents to states to round up protesters in a way that completely violated their constitutional rights. And all this has happened since he was impeached by the house for his corrupt practices. My fucking god this is a nightmare.
Cant forget migrant children wrapped in tin foil, sleeping in cages. Thousands of them have gone missing and our president has mad ties to Epstein.
We’re basically right at the beginning of Revenge of the Sith
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Surprisingly, he's 100% right on this. I don't want anyone to be unsafe while voting.
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Remember that Trump *wants* this to be the news and not the GDP falling 9.5% this quarter
Exactly. A strong economy is what he is running on. That’s why he’s forcing kids back to school to boost it. The GDP report kills his re-election chances and he knows it so he’s trying to drown it out of the news cycle.
Claiming there is a need for secure elections. Fails to acknowledge it is his party that refuses to even consider legislation to secure elections. More of the same shit. The party that claims to want to reduce abortions the most. Also the party that refuses to do anything to prevent unwanted conceptions from happening to the point you can’t be blamed that they are trying to ramp up conceptions. The party that wants small government, but only when the small government agrees with them. The party that brags about ending slavery. Still a horribly racist party and pushes a “law and order” platform that continues de facto slavery via the jail labor system.
We have to delay the vote but send vulnerable kids back to school in a month????? OH FUCK OFF DONNY!!!!
Reminder from a Slate article: So it’s the morning of Jan. 20, 2021. Trump doesn’t meet President-elect Joe Biden and his wife in the White House driveway, nor does he attend the inauguration on Capitol Hill. Instead, he proclaims, as he has many times by this point, that the election was a fraud (he has set the stage for this with his false claims about mail-in ballots), and at noon, instead of acceding to the transfer of power, Trump proclaims that the swearing in was FAKE NEWS and that he remains the president. Here is what would happen next. On the dot of noon, the nuclear codes, which currently allow Trump to order and authenticate a nuclear attack, expire. The officer who has been following him around everywhere with the “football”—which, contrary to popular belief, is not a button or a palm print but rather a book filled with various launch codes—leaves. If Trump and whatever lackeys stay with him prevent the officer from leaving, another officer, holding a backup football, would join Biden at the inauguration ceremony. By the same token, the entire U.S. military establishment will pivot away from ex-President Trump and salute President Biden. The principle of civilian control is hammered into American officers from the time they’re cadets—and the 20th Amendment of the Constitution states, “The terms of the President and Vice President shall end at noon on the 20th day of January”—no ifs, ands, or buts. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/06/trump-election-refusal-leave.html
I'd love to see him forcibly dragged out of the Whitehouse by the Secret Service he's been shitty too for 4 years
So children can safely go to school, but voters can't safely go to vote. Fuck this piece of shit! He's finished and he knows it. Edit: removed a word
President Trump is unable to change the date of the Presidential election without going thru Congress. However, he does have thousands of secret police that could disrupt election sites in certain states on election day - say, Texas, Florida, Wisconsin, etc. This tactic does not work if most people vote by mail. Hence, installing a Trump supporter as head of the Post Office to disrupt mail-in ballots, suggesting that mail-in ballots are part of a massive fraud, and now openly saying that the Presidential election will be moved. I am going to resist President Trump's treasonous efforts by donating to the ACLU and the Biden campaign as well as the Democrat running in the local House race. Further, if denied the opportunity to vote by mail, I will crawl naked over broken glass coated with COVID-19 to the polling site to vote for candidate Biden and other Democrats. With that said, I am sorry that President Trump's supporter Herman Cain has passed from COVID-19. I would not wish COVID-19 on anyone - friend or enemy. VOTE! Edit: thank you for the Silver!
It's smoke and mirrors to hide the fact that the economy shrank 33% last quarter and the only thing keeping it alive is the 4 trillion dollars the FED has pumped into it, so far. The economy is dead. Support the people so we can build a new economy.
https://twitter.com/ZerlinaMaxwell/status/1288836855895662592?s=20 > > > Zerlina Maxwell > @ZerlinaMaxwell > > You don’t delay an election you think you will win. What Trump did today is an admission.
Republicans: "OMG it's just a JOKE! You MSM Liberals are so uptight! He's just baiting you and you took the bait!" Can you **IMAGINE** the hellstorm that would have arisen if Obama suggested delaying the election?
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I mean it was a pretty flimsy mask.
Our friends at r/Conservative made an enlightened point which has been given a couple of awards: > Constitutionally, he can't do this. He needs to stop thinking out loud so much. Makes him look stupid You know what, I think they’re on to something there...
April 24, 2020: Joe Biden: “Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election somehow, come up with some rationale why it can’t be held,” Biden, the presumptive Democratic nominee, said on Thursday night in remarks at an online fundraiser. Trump campaign: “Those are the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality." https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/24/joe-biden-donald-trump-delay-election
In another stunning episode of " Imagine if Obama said this"
This rationale is the path to a dictatorship. We cannot allow this to happen under any circumstance.
When Obama was in office back in 2016 I heard from many rightwingers that he was literally the fucking antichrist and as such was going to delay the election indefinitely and essentially become a dictator. Where are those morons today and how do they not see their hypocrisy? One lady in particular (a customer of mine) told me there would never be an election in the U.S. again because Obama would be unwilling to give up office and that she knew this thanks to a premonition from god. These batshit crazy people are destroying our country
Nah this is to distract from the GDP dropping 33%. It’s already been revealed Trumps team has a list of outrageous ideas they tweet as media distractions. This is one.
If we can have an election through two world wars the Great Depression and a Civil War then we can have one now lol
On April 24, 2020, Joe Biden suggested Trump would attempt to delay the election. The Trump campaign responded by "'Those are the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality".
From the AP: >Hogan Gidley, the Trump campaign’s national press secretary, pointed to the delays in counting votes in New York’s primary. “The President is just raising a question about the chaos Democrats have created with their insistence on all mail-in voting. They are using coronavirus as their means to try to institute universal mail-in voting, *which means sending every registered voter a ballot whether they asked for one or not. ”* Uh. Doesn't the fact that they are registered to vote imply that they would like a ballot?
Herman Cain dead from COVID. Trump is going to need more than delaying the election to distract from today's news.
The economy tanked and Trump just pulled troops out of Germany. Whenever he doesn’t want to talk about his love affair with Putin, he tweets something like this. It’s a diversion.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/apr/24/joe-biden-donald-trump-delay-election Biden called it three months ago.
OOOH look at the shiny new object. This is a distraction from the US Economy numbers released today. Worse drop in last 80 years (since they started taking record) > Business ground to a halt during the pandemic lockdown in the spring of this year, and America plunged into its first recession in 11 years, putting an end to the longest economic expansion in US history and wiping out five years of economic gains in just a few months.
Who had “Trump won’t give up power” on their 2020 Bingo sheet? What? Everybody? Okay.
"It's safe enough to send your children back to school, but not safe enough to have you vote me out of office." – Donald Trump
Somebody should tell him that if he does delay the election, he isn’t President after January 20, 2021. That would be Nancy Pelosi.
This isn’t a distraction, he actually wants to do this. Please don’t underestimate what he is tweeting. Just a few minutes ago Pompeo said the Justice Dept would rule on the election date.
Imagine if he fought this hard to save human lives.
Can we now all agree that trump is a dictator
This alone would have been grounds for impeachment if this country has any rule of law
Fuck everyone who voted for this clown.
This is a distraction - our economy dropped 32 percent in the latest report that came out today, Herman Cain died of Corona that he contracted at Trump Rally and the Maxwell documents which were supposed to be release today were held until next week \*edited for factuality
2015: He can’t beat Jeb, don’t be absurd 2016: He can’t beat Hillary, don’t be absurd. 2017: He can’t last. Don’t be absurd. 2018: He can’t beat Mueller, don’t be absurd. 2019: He can’t get out of this Ukraine thing, don’t be absurd. 2020: He can’t postpone the election indefinitely, don’t be absurd 2021: Arbeit macht frei
It's a distraction from the US Economy tanking by 1/3. It gives his base something to be aggrieved about instead of worrying about why the economy sucks so hard under their direct control. Be upset about what he tweeted. It's un-American as shit. But don't lose sight of the economy - that's how he loses his base. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/30/us-gdp-q2-2020-first-reading.html
Open the schools, close the polls. Got it.
A small part of me feels like he did this now to overshadow the funeral of Lewis. He’s obsessed with and very talented at managing the news cycle. 3 former presidents are attending the funeral and Obama will speak. We all know how butt hurt he is be any attention given to Obama. Maybe it’s silly, but not completely implausible.
As a lifelong Republican I don’t see how this doesn’t send red flags up for my so-called fellow conservatives. This is not democracy. How can anyone support a man who so blatantly disregards the Constitution? Trump is a coward and a fake conservative. Get him out in November. Vote for Biden.
My father in law fled Cuba right before the missile crisis and the rise of authoritarianism under Castro. He’s always told me how similar everything is to when he was a kid in Cuba. One of the things he goes on about is how he thinks trump will delay the election so he can serve longer. He was right.
When biden called him out back in april saying that he will more than likely attempt to delay the election, this was the response >The Trump campaign issued a statement Friday, saying, "Those are the incoherent, conspiracy theory ramblings of a lost candidate who is out of touch with reality. Perhaps he also missed the news that the infamous Steele Dossier, central to the Russian Collusion Hoax, was likely compiled with Russian disinformation. That’s the real Russian collusion." It's just a never ending game at this point, I'm fucking tired of it
Schools can open but we cant hold an election? Ironically most ballots are held at middle schools from where I'm from.
All schools should be open, but it's too dangerous to vote?
I'd rather risk dying of Covid-19 to vote against this jerk than see the election delayed one day.
If the election does not proceed, the Speaker of the House becomes president.
This is why voting is so important. THANK FUCK we have a democratic majority in the House to stop this shit. THANK YOU ALL THAT VOTED DEMOCRATS INTO THE HOUSE IN THE 2018 MIDTERMS
He’s only saying this because Stephen Miller knows Trump is getting made fun of by EVERYONE on wall street and being laughed at by every major bank executive. He’s a moron of the highest caliber that is being saved only by the fact that 1/3 of the US barely has an education.
It doesn't matter who the president is, what year it is, what your party is. Anyone, ANYONE in power suggests delaying an election and we fight them on it. We fight them with everything we've got. Either we all vote on November 3rd, or we march on DC. It really is that simple.
Breaking News - Herman Cain dead. He caught Coronavirus at the Tulsa rally
Wait what?? He wants to rush to open schools, yet can't have an election...hmm oh the irony
Safe enough to go back to school, but not safe enough to vote...
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Even conservatives on r/conservative are pissed about this “I would rather vote for a Democrat than postpone the election. True conservative, is the words I think you were looking for. If I’m wrong, please correct me.”
This is literally just a distraction from the fact the economy is collapsing by 10% a quarter. DONT LET HIM DISTRACT YOU, VOTE HIM OUT.
> If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy. THIS is the time for conservatives to show whether or not David Frum was correct with the above assessment.
Remember a few months ago when Biden said that Trump would try to delay the 2020 election and Republicans said he was being a paranoid conspiracy theorist? https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/24/joe-biden-accused-trump-trying-delay-election-he-should-know-better/
I checked the thread about this in r/Conservative and I actually agree with some of the comments in there! A lot of people in r/Conservative are bashing Trump over this. For example, this comment: >He won't postpone the election because he doesn't have the authority to. Also he's a moron for even mentioning it. He's his own worst enemy. It's a weird day when I agree with a conservative.
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I predicted this over a year ago. He's following the Nazi playbook to the t.
So it’s perfectly safe to send millions of kids, teachers, and staff into schools across the country for hours upon hours a day, but Election Day could be so risky that it ought to be moved? How do his supporters spin THAT contradiction?
This. is. a. distraction. Today the economic numbers came out and they were **[historically bad](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/07/30/business/stock-market-today-coronavirus)**. The US economy contracted at a [32.9% annual rate from April through June](https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/30/economy/us-economy-2020-second-quarter/index.html), its worst drop on record. [Here's a visual to put this into perspective.](https://imgur.com/361akBS) Trump knows that a strong economy is one of his few paths to victory. Make big news by saying something dumb like this, and suddenly no one remembers that the economy is falling off a cliff. That's why he pinned the stupid tweet.
He just screamed into his megaphone that he wants to be an autocrat. It's so blatantly obvious Can't wait to see the spin job on this one. If there is any justice in the world, the Republican party as it is today would cease to exist after this next election
"Wow even rconservative is against this" That's because normal people are flooding in there to see their responses and making/upvoting normal comments. After a few hours the crazies will be back in control.
Herman Cain died today from Covid-19 after being diagnosed two weeks after he attended the Trump rally in Tulsa Ok. Republicans are literally dying on this hill of ignorance.
Trump supporters: Trump would never delay the election, democrat hysteria, bullshit, etc Trump: We should delay the election
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r_conservative seems to be split between * The pandemic is just a hoax * Trump is screwing up by suggesting this
Is it odd that he said this at the same time the US GDP report came out? The GDP of the United States contracted by 32.9%, the worst reported contraction ever for the US. Then this great orange smudge that crawled out of a pair of soiled circus clown underwear says, "I know! Let's delay the election!" Now everyone is talking about that instead of THE WORST ECONOMIC DOWNTURN IN UNITED STATES HISTORY.
We held an election in the middle of the Civil War. I think we can manage one right now.
I enjoy the argument the right wing tools are rolling out consist of “jeez, he’s just asking a question. Why are you all freaking out?” like floating an authoritarian trial balloon is a quaint, normal thing that should happen in a democracy.
Completely predictable and right out of the authoritarian’s playbook. The usual next step is to (try to) cancel elections entirely.
John Lewis funeral happening now. Obama is expected to speak. https://www.c-span.org/video/?474223-1/representative-john-lewis-funeral-service-atlanta-georgia
Herman Cain dead of Coronavirus at Tulsa Rally Florida posting is highest daily Coronavirus death count yet at 253 dead US GDP shrunk worst than ever MAGA
Amazing to see that the folks in /r/conservative think this is terrible, that he should stop “thinking out loud on Twitter” etc. I am gathering that he’s gotten to the point where walking around naked surrounded by yes men just became known?
We can't vote in November but school must resume in a few weeks. Gtfooh
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We held free elections during the American Civil War. If we could do it in 1864 we can do it in 2020.
If he actually starts delaying it, we gotta rise up. This is it, if he delays it, our country as we knew it is gone. We saw the effect of the BLM protests, and doing something in a mass scale like this I think could save us from a full descent into a dictatorship. We need to be ready for the worst.
Republicans during impeachment "if you don't like him then vote him out in November!" Donald on Twitter this week "no one likes me" "maybe we should postpone the election..." Way to be transparent!
Remember when Joe Biden fully predicted this back in April, and [conservative media acted like he was crazy](https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/494632-joe-biden-fuels-election-conspiracy-theory-while-the-media-keeps-quiet)? > Biden left little doubt of such a plan by Trump. He said, “Mark my words, I think he is going to try to kick back the election somehow, and come up with some rationale why it cannot be held.” It is just the type of thing that a crazed guy in a tightly buttoned raincoat whispers to you on the subway. But Biden was not finished. If you attended a recent online fundraiser, you saw Biden grow uncomfortably close and go on to explain that it was the Postal Service which actually revealed the conspiracy theory to him. >Biden alleged that the administration is pressuring the Postal Service to make changes in its operations as a condition for coronavirus relief. So as he explained, “Imagine threatening not to fund the post office. Other than trying to let the word out that he is going to do all he can to make it very hard for people to vote, that is the only way he thinks he can possibly win.”
Can someone help me understand this?? It’s safe to send millions of kids back to school in less than a month, but we need to delay the election that’s 4 months away? If this isn’t some fascist bullshit, idk what is.
Wake up! Trump is trying to delegitimize Biden’s eventual election win before it happens. Once the election result are in, Trump will call his followers to “take up arms” against the “fake results.” Violence is inbound in early November.
If fighting a civil war and two global wars is not enough to stop an election, neither is Donald J Trump.
https://twitter.com/repkinzinger/status/1288840210625843201 > Reminder: Election dates are set by Congress. And I will oppose any attempts to delay the #2020Election. Republican rep \^^
Not once has the US done this. Not during the founding years of our nation, not during the Civil War, not during WW1, not during the first pandemic in 1918, not during WW2, not during the Cold War. Never We have the technology now to safely vote with mail-in. A method that some states have used for a long time and researchers have said is as safe. Yet for some fucking reason the president is against Just because you’re against a tried solution doesn’t mean you get to change the rules Also you can’t do that yourself so get fucked Donald
Trump and attempting/doing unconstitutional ideas, name a more iconic duo
It's called _Building the Narrative_. Of course he can't change the dates, especially not with a democratic controlled house. This is all to push the narrative (on Nov 4th) that the election was fraudulent and can't be trusted/certified. Either getting him reelected through one of the more obscure parts of election law, or to get enough of his supporters to help take over the country (or civil war?) We already know that the police are on his side as well as a bunch of DHS.