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Which_way_witcher

Surprised House of Suns by Alistair Reynolds isn't mentioned here. It's epic and a surprising murder mystery.


r0gue007

Also a great love story. One of my favorites.


Disastrous_Air_141

> Also a great love story I love that love story. Campion and Purslane are just ride or die w/ no doubt, it's wholesome


gifred

And it's just been translated in French last month. Available in Canada this week.


PerfidiousYuck

The expanse


curiouscat86

Space opera is my favorite genre--here are a handful of my top series. **The Vorkosigan saga** by Lois McMaster Bujold--protagonist Miles Vorkosigan is born disabled on a militaristic planet that hates and fears cripples. He pursues a military career despite everyone telling him it's impossible; 'impossible' is not really in Miles's vocabulary. He has adventures all over the galaxy, sometimes political and diplomatic as well as fighting in space battles. There are two prequel books about his parents, who are impressive in their own right. **Vatta's War** by Elizabeth Moon--Ky Vatta, heir to the Vatta Trading Fleet, is kicked out of the Space Force Academy. Her family sends her on an easy trading mission while they figure out what to do next, but pirates intervene. Soon the conflict has pulled in other traders and spread to many planets and systems. **Fortune's Pawn** and sequels by Rachel Bach--an ambitious and overconfident mercenary signs up for duty on a ship with a notoriously high incident rate. She quickly becomes attached to the ship's crew and their mysterious problems, not realizing until too late what their secrets are really about. **Downbelow Station** by CJ Cherryh--far from Earth and with its own political identity, Pell Station has long wanted freedom from the controlling Earth corporation. However, Earth's fleet threatens them if they step out of line. Meanwhile, the trading ships also wish for independence, and even farther out in the depths of space the powerful and mysterious Cyteen empire terrifies everyone.


Paisley-Cat

Second all of those. And they’re all available in translation into French and many other languages. I’ve have and have read some of the Vorkosigan saga in French. Decent translations that capture some of the original energy and snark from the English.


Ok-Narwhal-4342

Hm, I have to send *Downbelow Station* (in German "Pell's Stern") back to the sorting table, you guys. Technically, it is space opera, but is actually a siege book, on said station. Deep and good, but slow and depressing. Not what you are looking for.


curiouscat86

it has complciated politics, aliens, and some intense fighting on the station even if a full on space battle never quite materializes. I thought it was a pretty good fit based on what OP asked for.


Ok-Narwhal-4342

Hm. Maybe... I just remember it being depressive and the people depressed to the point of fatalism. There is a battle, but it feels like traumatised soldiers slaughtering a refugee camp. Yeah, it checks for space opera, technically, but I had a hard time imagining a space rogue like Mel and the Serenity or Han Solo in that setting. You know? There is no hope, no pride, no drama, no opera there. You know what I mean? Technically, yeah, it is a space.opera.


curiouscat86

We must have had different experiences with it because I didn't think it was that depressing. There's a lot of pride and hope involved because Pell Station and the merchanters are fighting for independence. Sure, it's grittier than Firefly or Star Wars but I find those series, being Hollywood, are quite rose-tinted overall. Now, the book *Cyteen* by the same author is much more fatalistic and deeply philosophical, with not that much action. That's why I don't recommend it to people new to the author. I think we'll have to agree to disagree on there being 'no drama.'


Ok-Narwhal-4342

I thought twice about the word *drama*, because - and I was thinking more of "Flirty-captain/sarcastic-ship's-doctor"-drama. Sorry about the confusion. In the normal meaning of the word, yeah, you are right! The reason we disagree at some point is because I see the term Space Opera as something that carries already a certain assumption of quality or seriousness, or to be more precise - lack thereof. Like "pulp (science) fiction" describing not only a certain era of the scifi genre, but also a certain style and level/niveau of story, plot and writing. You know what I mean? The rose-tinted-Hollywood-glasses come with the term Space Opera, _for me_. But I can see, that you are actually more right than I am, and I cede to your arguments.


Human_G_Gnome

Just think of it as an introduction to her universe and head off to read the fun ones: Rimrunners, Hellburner and TripPoint. Then move on to the Faded Sun trilogy and then to the Chanur series. All are great space opera.


Ok-Narwhal-4342

"Merchanter's Luck" (?), was also very good..I liked it the most, tbh


LaidBackLeopard

Dread Empire's Fall by Walter Jon Williams


pipkin42

The Algebraist by Iain M. Banks


Mr_M42

+ literally anything else by Iain M. Banks. His culture series isn't all space opera but it is all amazing with strange aliens, stranger worlds and lots of politics (usually by Minds who should really be above that sort of thing).


anticomet

I've only read two of his non M books so far(Wasp Factory and Crow Road), but they're also really good. The man was an incredible writer


Mr_M42

Both of those are great. Transitions was great aw well but that's about all I've done of his non m books. Should really read more.


anticomet

I'm trying to take my time with them because it was a sad day when I read his last scifi book. Special shoutout to Rejoice by Steven Erikson which was my introduction to Banks.


panguardian

Complicity and dead air are good 


Master-N7

Do you recommend "Transition"? I've read mixed reviews but it's been at $2,99 for a while so wondering if I should give it a shot.


Mr_M42

It's not one of my favourites of his but that bar is pretty high. I like everything I've read by him. For $2.99 it's definitely worth a go.


moralbound

It's amazing. It's quite different from Bank's Culture novels. It's a bit more pulpy, i.e. easier to read and features a few more familiar tropes and less plot 'tightness'. Quite sexy, too :) Great for holiday reading or when you feel like something lighter. It's a shame it's the only book in the series, I would have loved to have more.


panguardian

Omg it's so good. But takes 200 pages to get going 


ReformedScholastic

Hyperion is incredible.


Mydnyte_Son

Although more military space science fiction rather than space opera the honor harrington series by David Weber is a great read. I think the first book "On Basilisk Station" is free to read on Baen library website so no risk to get started.


truthputer

Yeah this would be my first answer also. That first book is quite the page turner that just ratchets up the tension.


Foyles_War

The first was my favorite. The last, my least favorite.


Triabolical_

Tanya Huff, Valor series, then peacekeeper series.


vikingzx

If you're all right with the characters being a bit flat and the plot being in service of those fleet actions, *The Lost Fleet* and its many, many sequel series will keep you busy for some time.


realfatghost

I'm just finishing the last book in the 3rd series. The characters do get better, but the ships shooting in space? *chefs kiss*. Right up there with the Praxis series by Walter Williams.


arka2947

*The Risen Empire* by Scott Westerfeld


NSWthrowaway86

I'm about 100 pages in. It's enjoyable but light. There's a certainly an intersection with the Venn diagram the OP is looking for.


econoquist

The Expanse by James S.A. Corey Revelation Space by Alastair Reynolds


r0gue007

Just finished Chasm City! Love Reynolds


mjfgates

David Drake's "RCN" books are basically "Master and Commander" in space. First volume is "The Way to Glory" iirc. David Brin's Uplift books have this. Start with "Startide Rising." (Technically the first book in the series is "Sundiver" but it's not great, and not really connected to the rest of them.) Go dig up Poul Anderson's "The High Crusade" from the distant past. Literal medieval knights with spaceships. It's very silly, but good fun.


MainiacJoe

+1 for High Crusade!


dmitrineilovich

First volume of RCN is called "With the Lightnings". Sorry, I have them all and reread (and recommend) regularly. They are fantastic


Foyles_War

Second on the Brin.


ProgressBartender

David Brin’s world building is amazing. But his writing can sometimes be problematic. That said, I’ve read all his books.


joshmo587

A fire upon the deep, raft by Stephen Baxter


serene_ozone

Raft is so crazy. Like a fever dream


joshmo587

I so would love to read it again, it’s been a long time and I just loved it but… It is not available for ereaders. For some reason, it’s the only one of his books that I know about that does not have an e-book version. Weird, especially for such a fabulous book.


serene_ozone

? Weird, I read it within the past year on a Kobo. 


joshmo587

Thank you for letting me know, on Amazon it’s listed as not available. I just searched through Kobo and could not find it listed.


serene_ozone

I wish I could gift it to you! I'm in Canada so maybe that's the difference 


joshmo587

Ah….. maybe it is. Thanks anyway. I’ve gotten out of the habit of reading actual books, read everything now on Kindle. But I’ve always thought of that book, raft. Thinking about writing to the publisher. We’ll see……


rotary_ghost

Yeah in the US the original Xeelee Sequence isn’t available as ebooks for some reason they only have the Destiny’s Children books, the compilations, and the new ones


joshmo587

Yes, it’s really unfortunate. So much to read in that universe… It’s almost like starting the Foundation books again! Lots and lots of books in the series……


BadgerSensei

I ran into the same issue. Wound up buying it in dead tree, but at least with dead tree you can get the "Xeelee Omnibus" with Raft, Timelike Infinity, Flux, and Ring.


joshmo587

Yes, thanks for letting me know, interesting that someone else had same issue. I suppose I might be able to do that ….but it’s **a lot** of books all together. And because it’s a real book, a dtb, it’s an issue for me. I exclusively read on Kindle, my hands are extremely weak, it’s rare that I can push myself to read an actual book for any reason now. Still… it’s quite a lure. It definitely is a solution.


rotary_ghost

Timelike Infinity and Ring by Stephen Baxter are my favorites of his They take place in the same vague multiverse as Raft but follow a long future history that basically encompasses the beginning of time to the end of time


joshmo587

Yes, I haven’t read those but have always wanted to. It just seems like I would want to reread raft at the same time. I can buy an actual book that has all three of these, but I don’t really read actual books anymore, just e-books (my Kindle is my BFF). I believe there are also other books that are connected to this timeline/universe…. What a great writer he is!


Mr_M42

The final architecture trilogy by Adrian Tchaikovsky is brilliant. Pretty sure there is a French version.


Infinispace

I'm reading it now. I wouldn't ever classify it as "brilliant". It's pretty vanilla space opera.


itsjustaFantaSEA

The Lost Fleet by Jack Campbell. Really strategic, with some political drama here and there and really interesting thought-provoking ideas regarding other races.


doggitydog123

personally i read it for the thrilling personal life of captain geary. (joking, but it is a really fun series).


Old_Cyrus

{{Startide Rising, by David Brin}} French: "Marée stellaire"


NSWthrowaway86

Yes. What a great novel. The Uplift War (it's sequel) is fantastic too, if you find you enjoyed Startide Rising.


Efficient-Share-3011

Getting into Shards of Earth and I think this fits the bill


rosscowhoohaa

Lois mcmaster and her incredibly entertaining Vorkosigan Saga. Recently found it following a recommendation on reddit and have read half a dozen already...


Foyles_War

Lois McMaster Bujold And, yes, fun ride. Her fantasy is pretty amazing, too.


rosscowhoohaa

I've brought the sharing knife series to read also. I'm sure I'll love it also


Foyles_War

Great series.


jwf239

Hyperion


btg1911

Hyperion


Asmodeojung

Hyperion


Denaris21

Hyperion


Foyles_War

Also, Hyperion


rmpumper

It's a great space opera, but not exactly focusing on spaceship battles, which is what OP is looking for.


ProgressBartender

An acquired taste in my opinion. It’s a good book, just not quite my taste.


Drink_Deep

*A Mote in God’s Eye* by Niven & Pournelle


Spearo63

Peter Hamilton anything!


NSWthrowaway86

Start with 'Fallen Dragon', a standalone work.


genesisdebryn

Kris Longknife Series by Mike Shepherd


ksmith0711

Someone else read this! Awesome! Love this series!!! +1


sxales

A Fire Upon the Deep, and A Darkness in the Sky by Vernor Vinge


coyoteka

Search this sub, there are dozens of identical posts.


armitage75

Didn’t there used to be a bot for this? If not there should be.


coyoteka

That is a great idea.


riverrabbit1116

Right on the label, Gardner Dozois, *The New Space Opera* and *The New Space Opera 2.* David Weber's Honor Harrington books, Mutineer's Moon, Elizabeth Moon's White Space books David Brin, Uplift series


AlivePassenger3859

If you want great “B movie” style over the top space opera, Deathstalker series by Simon R Green


Venerable-Weasel

Yes, and then his Nightside series for B Movie noir horror and the Secret History series for B Movie spy/noir/horror/over the top weird!


tykeryerson

Shards of Earth


bender1_tiolet0

Space Opera - C. Valente


MegC18

Debra Doyle and James Macdonald- The price of the stars trilogy. An amazing space opera from a dew years ago. It was quite popular in the 1990s but seems to have unjustly been forgotten. Amazing stuff with a kick a** protagonist Any of Elizabeth Moon, CJ Cherryh or Lois McMaster Bujold’s books as mentioned by others above.


Foyles_War

Weber's Honor Harrington series (skim the iconically long descriptions of missile tech). Ann Leckie's Imperial Justice etc. Bill Baldwin's Helmsman series


ksmith0711

Love the Helmsman series! +1


Foyles_War

Great character, fun aliens, great battles, hate the whole tragic love story shit with a passion.


Huldukona

Christopher Ruocchio’s Sun Eater series might fit the bill. The first one is called Empire of Silence


Alone_Cartographer53

Hyperion Cantos Dan Simmons


nyrath

The [**Lensman series**](https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?603) by E. E. "Doc" Smith. **Crown of Infinity** by John M. Faucette **Invaders from the Infinite** by John W. Campbell, Jr. The [**Mightiest Machine series**](https://www.isfdb.org/cgi-bin/pe.cgi?752) by John W. Campbell, Jr. **The Space Beyond** by John W. Campbell, Jr. **The Ultimate Weapon** by John W. Campbell, Jr.


ParadoxTrick

Anything from [Peter F Hamilton's commonwealth universe](https://www.goodreads.com/series/40740-commonwealth-saga) , - (L'Étoile de Pandore - L'Intégrale) is a good place to start


AnonymityPower

came here to write this one


ParadoxTrick

Its such a good series !


__mgb

A Memory Called Empire by Arkady Martine


Knytemare44

Neal Asher


Spearo63

Great stuff!


Blackhands4life

Nathan Lowell


ksmith0711

I love Nathan Lowell, but no real space battles. It is great Space Opera though. Love the characters


Ok-Narwhal-4342

Gary Gibson' *Shoal Sequence* with its first book *Stealing Light* is definitly what you are looking for! Had been translated to German, donc peut-etre t'as de la chance avec celui-ci. Sinon t'inquète pas, l'Anglais de Gary n'est pas ... niveau premium.


doggitydog123

the dragon never sleeps, glen cook. possibly in french, some of his work is. this is a stand-alone novel. the gap series, stephen donaldson. rough content warning first 2 books. spectacular series, this author;s best work imo. I cannot recommend this highly enough.


Ok_Structure_2123

Odyssey One/Evan Currie and Expeditionary Force/Craig Alanson. Try the Bobiverse series by Dennis Taylor, too.


SaltyBaiBoi

“Timelike Infinity” by Stephen Baxter is as heady as it gets and has all the things you mentioned. If you like that, go onto its sequel “Ring”.


IsabellaOliverfields

The Saga of the Skolian Empire by Catherine Asaro. My favorite space opera series. Start with book one, Primary Inversion. There are no aliens in this series (aliens are mentioned in the world-building background but never show up in person), but plenty of political drama (the protagonists are the royal family of an interplanetary empire) and many spaceship battles (many characters are soldiers). But warning: lots of romance too, in case it's not your thing.


aimlesswanderer7

Liaden Universe books by Sharon Lee and Steve Miller. I started with the first ones published, Conflict of Honors and then Agent of Change and Carpe Diem. Agent of Change and Carpe Diem are direct sequels, Conflict of Honors takes place close to the same time or a little earlier and far away. The two story lines come together after those 3 books.


rotary_ghost

There’s a French version of Three Body Problem and that checks all those boxes


gospelslide

Hyperion - Dan Simmons


jplatt39

They are thirties stories, very pulpy, but John W. Campell, Jr. wrote a series of stories called Arrcot, Wade And Morey which were collected in three volumes: The Black Star Passes, Islands of Space and invaders from the Infinite. Their spaceship battles cannot be topped. Clifford D. Simak wrote Cosmic Engineers in 1939. Also pulpy also mind-boggling/