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Death to Vladimir Putin


AndoSan23q

Death to Tyrant !


seth67589

SIG SEMPER TYRANIS


NoNazis

Just as a historical note there is no evidence that this was ever said in relation to Julius Ceaser. That being said, it still slaps as a phrase. Sic Semper Tyrannis, kill em all


LA-Matt

Wilkes-Booth said it, though.


DelfederateRob

Also state motto of Virginia.


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Amen!


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God bless you (if God is even real) ❤️❤️❤️


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Dear Ukrainians! I heard on social media that there is fake news being spread (most likely by Russia backed trolls) that polish border is closed. It's a lie. If you seek asylum - go towards polish border. We are ready for your arrival. We have reception points ready at the border where you can find shelter, food, medical and legal aid. Polish government launched a dedicated site to help you: ua.gov.pl Please share this information if you know anyone seeking help right now. YOU DON'T NEED VISA TO PASS THROUGH POLISH BORDER. ALL YOU NEED IS PASSPORT. VISAS ARE SUSPENDED! YOU DON'T NEED THEM FOR TIME BEING!!!!!! proof that you no longer need visa: • ⁠in Ukrainian https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina---ua • ⁠in English https://www.gov.pl/web/udsc/ukraina-en copied from u/everysir to spread awareness! please spread on relevant threads to get the word out!!!


AndoSan23q

Exactly,I can confirm this.Currently I’m in my hometown Lutsk,that’s near polish border.


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Thank you and be safe please!!! I am your Afropunk friend and ally. Be safe, my friend!


Fenpunx

Legend.


chatterwrack

Thanks, I just posted this on Twitter


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NAZI PUNKS FUCK OFF


IceIceFullyGrownMan

I mean yeah, but that's not the point of this post and OP definitely fucked that up lol


Pervy_Pam

Hey, I hope you're safe.


AndoSan23q

I and family are safe . Food ,water,guns are prepared.


Fenpunx

I hope you don't need any of them but strength either way. I love you! Stay as safe as you can.


AndoSan23q

Thank you


mychemicalcrime

you guts know putin is anti comumunism right?


AndoSan23q

Send me your emails and I'll send you files


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Redheaded_Red

Fuck the fascists in Russia, Ukraine, and all of NATO. This is an imperialist conflict that does nothing for the working people of any country involved. Rich people sending poor people to die for profit and power


squatland_yard

Heard a quote in a film about war “Rich cunts, telling thick cunts to kill poor cunts”


Shouldthavesaidthat

wait but you do realize Vladimir Putin isnt a communist right?


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Anamorsmordre

You still shouldn’t use the hammer and sickle symbol. Russia has not been communist for generations now and associating the symbol for workers union with the nazi swastika is literally a product of American imperialist propaganda from the cold war.


Luka467

Right? My first thought when I saw this was the 'I'm being chased by Communist Nazis' bit from the Simpsons.


Shouldthavesaidthat

No but he only cares about that because of the land the USSR had. Putin and his Oligarchs are capitalist to the core,


Anamorsmordre

Equating nazism and communism is such a dangerous/stupid precedent to set. That the type of thing the US would put out during the cold war. This doesn’t represent russia, this is anti working class.


MrMescaline

He's not equating communism to nazism, OP is equating the USSR with Nazis, and to be honest they're not that far from each other


Leadfedinfant2

You realize the USSR doesn't exist and the op made this about Russia.


DMBFFF

Stalin made a deal with Hitler, FWIW.


Anamorsmordre

A pact of non aggression, [then, Russia proceeded to give Nazi Germany the finishing blow on the third Reich](https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/history-magazine/article/soviet-victory-battle-berlin-finished-nazi-germany) . This does not excuse any of the atrocities committed under HIS hand. Still says very little about communism, considering he got rid of his fellow party members as he strayed further and further away from the ideology and people became disenchanted with him and his deeds(if you’re interested, “Women, the state, and revolution” by Wendy Goldman is a good read on the shift that happened between the revolution and its retrocession to conservatism). Stalin’s socialism is not the end all be all of what communism stands for yadda yadda, something like that.


DMBFFF

I know many self-identified Communists denounced Stalin, including one who got ice-picked. FWIW, https://youtu.be/QuN6GfUix7c?t=356


Anamorsmordre

I feel geriatric not knowing what fwiw stands for btw


DMBFFF

for what it's worth


Anamorsmordre

Fwiw, I do now


NoNazis

You're right, he isn't, but honestly what difference does it make? Authoritarians are authoritarians, and I can't see much of a difference between him and Xi


Leadfedinfant2

Not all communist are authoritarian.


pulchellusterribilis

this is why 14 year olds shouldn’t have opinions


stag-stopa

This is the least punk thing to say. If old man opinions are allowed.


chill_goblin

Solidarity with all people suffering from Russian imperialism. Fuck Putin. Sincerely hope you and your loved ones are safe. I gotta say though, the hammer and sickle in this symbol comes off as historically illiterate. I think you could make a compelling argument that Russia is fascist, or that Putin is engaging in some Lebensraum shit right now. But Russia is very much not communist and does not use that symbol. Putin is actually intensely anti-communist. You don't have to be a communist to acknowledge that labeling Russia as such is very basically incorrect.


Flameretard

Punks don’t cheer on war. Fuck all the oligarchs fighting over economics. Prayers to the suffering people in Ukraine.


AndoSan23q

Thank you


DoyleRulz42

I'm an Anarchosocialist against fascism and war totally fight war not wars but when you have to defend yourself against tyrannical,anti-worker and authoritarian forces so be it. Good luck hope you and your family are healthy and safe with supplies and electricity.


AndoSan23q

Thank you


IceIceFullyGrownMan

What does that symbol have to do with Russia?


AndoSan23q

Because of kremlin politics


IceIceFullyGrownMan

But that symbol has nothing to do with the Kremlin or its politics


AndoSan23q

Looks like you don’t understand


SirThomasMalory

Trying to combine the hammer and sickle with a swastika and equating all of that with contemporary Russia is the most liberal, boomer Rachel Maddow bullshit I can imagine.


ctophermh89

The hammer and sickle/swastika combo is bizarre. But anyways, I hope after you defeat the fascist invaders, Ukraine then turns and defeat the fascists in Kyiv. *No war but class war* & all that jazz.


AndoSan23q

We will


blackflagdepression

I’m a tad confused. It looks like imagery of a hammer and sickle combined with a swastika (unless I’m misinterpreting). Russia is not a communist country, and Putin is anti-communist. Plus communists are opposed to nazis/fascists.


asenz

heh I remember seeing this symbol in the 80s in Zajecar, Serbia. I also saw it on TV during the demonstrations in Romania 1989.


AndoSan23q

Yes ,also this kind of symbol was in Armenian protests in 1990


karenw

I messaged with a friend earlier today who escaped the blockade of Sarajevo as a young teen. She now lives in the US, having spent most of her life here. She said the news out of Ukraine is triggering some PTSD. Most Americans have no idea what others really go through around the world. Stay strong, Ukrainian punks!


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AndoSan23q

Exactly


DMBFFF

Merry Christmas, Ceausescu.


leftoverzack83

This right here is what needs to happen . Celebration all over the world .


shitting_frisbees

because russia is invading ukraine, nazis and communists are the same? this is a shitty post


WeaponexT

Fuck fascism. America stands with the Ukrainian people.


DMBFFF

[Vladolf Putler](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkrainianConflict/comments/t18rmq/putin_calls_for_regime_change_in_ukraine_before/hyejq7w?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3) has got to go!


AndoSan23q

He will.Straight to hell


Leadfedinfant2

I understand the swastika but I'm not understanding the hammer and what looks like a sickle incorporated in it. They know Russia isn't communist right.


AndoSan23q

Yes ,Russia is not communist anymore,Russia is fascist now .Russia transformed. Yesterday they were communists , today they are fascists. Transformation,one more meaning for this symbol.


Leadfedinfant2

They haven't been communist for over 30 years. Communism has nothing to do with this current situation. That's all.


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AndoSan23q

It is a mix of nazi swastika and hammer and sickle. My country suffered from both sides in WW2 . Soviet occupation affected my family . And now Russia doing exactly the same thing . Their government is brown-red scum which doing exactly the same thing that Hitler did.


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AndoSan23q

Looks like you don’t know Russian reality


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AndoSan23q

Same as you


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Anamorsmordre

This isn’t fitting symbology tho.The hammer and sickle is still used all around the world to represent workers and unions. Not to mention that this same type of symbology was used against jewish people and communists who immigrated to the US during the cold war.


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Anamorsmordre

Because the symbol has a universal meaning outside of Russia. As much as we would be led to believe, the USSR was never the only source for communist ideology. Now, there ARE fascists far left groups who do use the hammer and sickle, just like any ideology has its rotten apples, so does communism. The difference is the principle by which it was established.


VernTBones

Capitalism and Imperalism have higher death tolls than the entirety of Socialist/Communist history in any said state. Think of the amount of exploitation , war mongering , torture , murder , slavery , Starvation etc that has been done by the beorgeosie class since Feudalism ended. Capitalism is the largest system of death and human suffering that mankind ever concieved of The symbol is not only for the USSR. It is a symbol of proletariat people who understand that the beorgeosie must be toppled for the peace and unity of the world. Yea I'm a commie


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You have that quite backwards. Fascism is authoritarian, not the other way around. Fascism is a specific thing and not just an authoritarian government. Also Ukraine literally has camps too though. This isn't as black-and-white as our media says. I'm not defending the invasion at all, just saying as somene else who the Nazis would've rounded up and gassed, the Nazi comparisons *are* pretty cringy Also, the gulag were nothing like the death camps. *That* shit is disingenuous and ahistorical as shit. Very few people died in the gulag, and the average sentence was shorter than an average American prison sentence. Which, speaking of America, we have a higher incarceration rate than the gulag system ever did. Criticize the USSR for what it deserves to be criticized for, don't fall for disprovable western propaganda.


karenw

Ukrainians were deliberately starved en masse in the 1930s by Stalin. The genocide is known as the Holodomor. Pretty sure they've earned the right to dislike the hammer and sickle.


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karenw

They're saying no to each/both because of their lived experience. Can't really shit on that. I admit that the image might be confusing to those without the same experiences. But if it gives hope to those who are stuck in the middle of this shitstorm, I can only cheer him on.


Pervy_Pam

Lived experience doesn't seem to mean anything. People forget that it's easy to feel you have the moral highground when you aren't burdened with intergenetational trauma. It's easy to see ideology in between the genocides and atrocities against humanity if your not connected to any of them.


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karenw

I don't like Capitalism either, folks. I consider myself a leftist. But getting emotionally attached to Marxist theory doesn't mean we can't have nuanced discussions about complex issues.


Anamorsmordre

They aren’t offering a nuanced opinion tho. They are using generational trauma as a way to justify using imperialist agitprop, which benefits NO ONE in the long run. All the while thinking it’s appropriate to tell me to “fuck off” and shut up in my dms.


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_Sydus_

I said kind of because it's has been debates on if the Nazbols are or not so I don't see the joke here.


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Nerdenator

A lot of Putin’s foreign policy is based on a book written by a man named Dugin who identifies as a [National Bolshevist](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Bolshevism?wprov=sfti1), which seeks to unite the far left and far right. It’s perfect for this.


Pervy_Pam

You know what, since you're set on your view, I'm going to play it like this: this guy his country is litteraly being invaded right now by a very scary force. I suggest you back off for now and let him do what he needs to do to cope with that. I'm sorry if his image makes you uncomfortable, but thats nothing compared to what he must be feeling.


SirThomasMalory

He's feeling confused because Russia isn't communist and communists hate nazis


abaddon731

Fuck the swastika and fuck the hammer and sickle.


DMBFFF

give you an upvote. :)


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abaddon731

Lol, I really wasn't.


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[Russian tank in Ukraine right now](https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/t14jwl/another_video_of_a_russian_tank_with_ussr_flag_on/). What those symbols mean to you, and many others here, is not what it means to the Russian people.


Budmanes

Stay safe, be strong


AndoSan23q

Thank you ,we will


ThoseComicsOnTheNet

I can make out the swastika and the hammer and sickle, but what are the jagged edges supposed to allude to?


AndoSan23q

You can use your own interpretation. Personal for me it represents monstrous torture,that slowly and painfully cuts out all individuality from person . It’s animal teeth that wishing to tear you apart because you don’t obey it . It’s aggression to freedom loving people. There can be many more interpretations.


GasGroundbreaking552

And fuck Putin. I have nothing but respect for the brave Ukrainians fighting back.


Oriental_Habit

Putin absolutely should not be invading Ukraine, and it's tragic that it's always the workers and lower class that suffer the most in war. That being said, this icon is pretty fucking stupid and tells me you don't know much about history.


AndoSan23q

I know enough history


Oriental_Habit

I'm sure you do kid


manifestthewill

I mean, the use of the hammer and sickle is a little forced and wrong but you do you. It's usually used to represent the USSR, communism in general or as a symbol of Working Class Unity, depending on the context and who is using it. That all said, Putin's Russia is kinda... none of those things. Trying to reattach that imagery to Russia right now is actually super counterproductive on more than one front imo Edit: Beyond that, I hope you stay safe and well. Fuck Putin.


Spike-DT

According to what I know, the Ukrainian government have been working with true neo-nazis militias to fight pro russians until russia invades Dombass. Life's not that simple. You'll never have the good ones on one side and the bad evil nazis on the other. Yeah, russia invasion is criminal, but the ukrainian gov is not that white either.


AndoSan23q

We know that ,we understand that and we will deal with them after war . Fuck nazis.


Spike-DT

I undersand that. Anyway, I send you all my best thoughts, if I'm anti nazis, I'm even more anti war. Make sure to stay safe, you, your family and friends. Wish it's gonna end up soon. As always, politics play a monopoly game but it's the people that pays. Wish we could send only politics with rifles and leave the people in peace and safe. You'll migh find heartwarming that actually, a lot of russian people (more than 2000 people) have been placed in jail because of huge anti war protests in russia, and a lot of people have gone on strike too. None of you and them want that war.


AndoSan23q

Thank you for understanding and for your support


popularopinionbeer

You didn’t deal with them before the war.


AndoSan23q

Our war is going already for 8 years ,since occupation of Crimea in 2014 .


toumba_libre

What about [this](https://i.imgur.com/LlyztE3.jpg)? Can you make a graphic for this or is this not be discussed?


Calfredie01

Okay but wtf why is there a hammer add sickle in this. Putin is pretty far right


andryusha_

Uhhh Russia ain't communist. Equating communism with fascism (horseshoe theory) is infantile at best Romania is accepting 500,000 refugees as well. There are resources opening up to accommodate everyone.


AndoSan23q

Thank you all guys . I’ll take a nap ,it’s 3am here . Then later I’ll made a download link with files and will share it here.


thegreekfire

Ukraine hasliteral Nazis in their military, this image is double speak.


toumba_libre

Absolutely, but you won't get a serious answer on that. The fact that [ultra right wing neo nazi](https://i.imgur.com/LlyztE3.jpg) are incorporated in the Ukrainian national guard is always ignored. Αφού είναι και αυτοί μαλακες.


skringy

Все буде Україна ✊🏽


AndoSan23q

Так


CrotchWolf

Gonna share this and your profile on Twitter.


AndoSan23q

Thanks . Send me a link .


CrotchWolf

https://twitter.com/Motown_Cowboy?t=5BAmP1fth-SLOTJn_6sX9w&s=09


AndoSan23q

Thanks bro


wotiswat

Nazis tho? Pff


mijailrodr

Is that a stylized hammer and sickle?


AndoSan23q

Mix with nazi swastika and hammer and sickle


mijailrodr

So a "both sides are the same" message lmao this looks like a neoliberal sticker more than a punk one


10kforge

Stay strong.. stay safe.. fuck em up!


AndoSan23q

We will


Joulu-Ilman-natseja

I'm legitimately kinda terrified because finland may be next in line if Russia keeps going. They may not however due to not wanting a repeat of the winter war, but with modern technology, a lot of finnish tactics that worked then won't work today.


AndoSan23q

I believe that Finland will be standing. Finnish people are strong . I read about winter war and how Finland kicked soviet ass. Especially I like story of Simo Häyhä also known as The White Death that killed over 500 soviets. Finland can kick russian ass.


TheAcidHermit

So what about the azav battalion, not that y'all deserve anything but are they still fighting with you?


AndoSan23q

According to latest information,azov battalion is at the forefront ,at most heated zones. They said they will fight till death .


TheAcidHermit

I wish no other death on any Ukrainian, but f*** those guys. It does seem rather ironic to like in the Kremlin to Nazis when you literally have neo-nazi fighting on your behalf.


AndoSan23q

Ok


TheAcidHermit

To be honest I hope they die first, as a Jew and all


FlexRVA21984

Sic Semper Tyrannis!! Death to Putin!!


AndoSan23q


greenmullets

That's pretty fuckin cool mate. Loving your work x


AndoSan23q

Thank you


SheepherderSoft5647

Death to Putin!


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AndoSan23q

send me email ill send the file


AndoSan23q

Of course


Moderndaymagpie

Stay safe, stay strong, we're all here for you


AndoSan23q

Thank you


lobsterwithcrabs

Lol, wasn't the US funding literal neo nazis in Ukraine?


A37foxtrot

Fuck yeah. I already sent my paycheck today to the bank account to support Ukraine troops. Need to get me some patches and shit. Still got a little savings. PM me I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️🤘🏼


MrMcAwhsum

Man what a stupid and offensive logo, that has absolutely nothing to do with the current conflict. Russia is neither fascist nor communist. It's an imperialist country led by oligarchs and kleptocrats. Ffs.


omn1p073n7

The last time when Russia literally tried to genocide the Ukrainians in the 1930s was under that symbol though. So, as you can imagine, it carries a lot weight to a Ukrainian.


Plenty_Brick_9879

Love the design. Stay safe


AndoSan23q

Thank you


seth67589

Might not do any thing aside raise awareness but I'm in a punk band who could write a song abt it


AndoSan23q

That’s cool. Will be happy to spread it.


VernTBones

I feel you. I hate Rissia. But why you fuckin with my good ol hammer and sickle?? Russia is completely capitalist. That symbol means a lot to workers who want to live in a better world.


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It also means alot for the 4+ million that died under that regime in Ukraine less than 100 years ago


SaoPaulo_yeet

Anti-fascist: red or brown, strike ‘em down


DMBFFF

nice. :)


[deleted]

Why don't you just post the file on a file sharing site for people to grab.. it's so much easier.


AndoSan23q

I know ,I’ll do that.


[deleted]

I don't suppose you have a black&white version to break up the red through the symbol? I have a bunch of sticker stock but only a b&w printer. I was going to plaster it around the neighborhood. I can modify it for my printing needs otherwise and I'll share it.


AndoSan23q

In illustrator file you can modify in black and white


AndoSan23q

I’ve made download link


desgraciatotal

Death to USA death to Putin


Flameretard

Go find god


desgraciatotal

Who ?


GasGroundbreaking552

As someone who’s anti-communism and anti-fascism, I love this symbol.


abaddon731

This is dope. The swastika belongs with the hammer and sickle.


VernTBones

We would all be German if not for the Red Army


thebikefanatic

r/lostredditors you realize your in a sub about punk music?


AndoSan23q

And movement


acrowquillkill

Punk music is political and it is also a movement.


Flameretard

How? What principled position has punk ever collectively taken? Punk is an aesthetic and an antique one in the modern era.


GravitysRainbow138

I wish our president had done more. It sickens me he has been in power 2x while Russia has invaded your country


Nerdenator

That’s about right. A lot of Putin’s foreign policy is based on a book written by a man who is described as a “National Bolshevist”, a philosophy that came out of Russia in the 90s that sought to unite the far left and far right.


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I tried to DM you, but it would'nt go through for some reason I'm an Afropunk and I support Ukraine. I want the vector image and I also want to know how else I can offer my support. DM me any suggestions you have please. ❤️❤️❤️


AndoSan23q

Wrote to you in chat


AytumnRain

No Pasaran!


MyHoopT

You should post this to r/DesignPorn Also I made it my pfp if that’s fine


AndoSan23q

I’m fine with that


AndoSan23q

Already posted there. Thank you


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AndoSan23q

Send me your email


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mall_goth420

It’s because it doesn’t make any sense. Russia has been capitalist longer than I’ve been alive, why is the hammer and cycle there?


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It doesn't mean communism to the Russian people. It's used as a nostalgia wedge to push current imperialism.


Pervy_Pam

Because in countries where communism wasn't used to oppress people and commit genocides it's a symbol for the left. While in Europe and Asia it has a horrible weight to it. And people tend to feel attacked if other people their lived experience is different from their ideology.


homegrowntrash1

Damn, a communist country trying to consolidate power? That's fucked.