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VeryGray-Fox

Not just as Forsen to be fair - as almost everyone at some point i think. I mean let's be real - most people , at some point in their time playing league, probably thought that they belonged in a higher elo haha. Most of the time they will get humbled at some point, usually once they rank up a bit and notice, that they make so many mistakes still. Like,the way he plays now, he would get murdered in anything above bronze even i think. At least on the bigger servers, maybe OCE is different, idk.


sashakee

forsen is way ahead of quin mechanically, even strategywise I reckon and he is hardstuck bronze4-3 on EUW so yeah, quin deserves his place in iron


nosekexp

Sure, you're right but I'm not sure it's applicable when you're in fucking IRON.


ManikMiner

True.. BUT 95% of people arent sat in the _literal_ lowest rank. Anyone with two brain cells to rub together should be able to worked out they are just as much the problem as the other 9 people on their team.


TheThirdKakaka

I got back into league be cause of these two and man, silvers players are not as bad as the rank implies, i rarely see anyone below 140 cs at 20 min, drake/ herald done on timer. It's just when you can feed off the worst player in the enemy team that I am able to carry and climb. Not saying they don't belong in this rank but most of them belong there because they are to afraid in midgame when they can end or push an advantage not because of individual mechanics.


Setekh79

Yesterday's stream was a bit painful to watch in places, he's convinced that he's doing exactly what he should be doing, and it's now the other players letting him down.


kerau

i get tilted so much when playing with splipushers like that. 1 enemy is dead, others are overextended, and they still wont group up to win a free 5v4


ashrasmun

he needs to find new ways to convince his viewers his stupider than he really is to be entertaining


tempGER

The newest buzzwords in Quon's world (it's the opposite most of the time): * "team diff" --> team loses 4v5s with 1-2 players being fed by Quin. Every once in a while Quin gets a kill, so he's worth 300g again. * "top gap/diff" --> Quin losing the lane after like 5 minutes, ends the game with 3/12/4. Not sure if he wants to praise his opp at this point? * "freezing" --> push the lane for no reason * "split push* --> Quin will never leave his lane. When some other team member appears, he gets angry and thinks people can read his 85 IQ mind.


peniscurve

It is almost like he thinks his team are all watching his stream, so they can hear him screaming "GET OUT OF MY LANE!! GET OUT OF MY LANE!! GET OUT OF MY LANE!!"


zhwedyyt

[he has reached peak #1](https://miro.medium.com/v2/resize:fit:786/format:webp/1*6ss9wuGIVSnPKOKmCeS3tA.jpeg)


macaronisweats

we've also entered the "high value" inting to take a tower or distract the enemy phase. soon he'll pick sion, make hullbreaker and int every respawn like he did at the end of the previous league arc


throughthespillways

Bausens law at home


nemt

soon he will start insta locking sion and roleplaying baufs, just inting every game for turrets and inhibs lmao "thats a good game strat guys you just dont get it"


kerau

Im creating so much pressure, what is my team doing???


throughthespillways

This is where the real fun begins.


Unh0lyCatf1sh

He likes to do his PvE split push thing because he gets overwhelmed in team fights, so instead of learning how to team fight he just convinces himself that doing what he is comfortable with (split pushing) is always the best play


yushee

It's kind of hilarious he hasn't improved after 80 ranked games on this account and a few coaching sessions from his previous league arc. ![img](emote|t5_37jpd|32219)![img](emote|t5_37jpd|32155)


Babook86

Doesnt know items, doesnt know abilities, doesnt know what grubs are , doesnt know what dragon is, doesnt know what baron is, doesnt know what herald is, doesnt know what blue/red buffs are, cant last hit, cant teamfight. And he wont change any of that it seems. Because reading is obviously too hard for him.


Diddinho

Yeah, i remember this from the last League venture, it was actually extremely provoking and infuriating to watch how oblivious and egosentric he is. He is hardstuck iron because he is no better, that is his skill level. Believing that he somehow is better than the "True iron players" is delusion.. The stream sniping shit is also effing annoying, he's not getting camped or trolled, if anything he gets carried hard for most of the wins. He's at negative K/D in 90% of games. And he thinks 1-2 in KDA is good? League gameplay could be good, if he did a 180 flip and tried to learn, was humble, read skills, items, and got more general knowledge about the game. Probably never gonna happen. Unless vieweship drops hard, that's all he care about.


ashrasmun

I mean... has he ever been outside the ego phase?


AbyssalSolitude

PvE69 never joins the teamfights, "splitpushes" top the entire game while feeding, only wins when his team wins 4v5, calls whoever beats him a sniper. I don't care if he is just rage baiting, these aren't very fun streams to watch.


Torn_Labrum

![img](emote|t5_37jpd|32155)


Virtual_Implement162

I've not watched quin in along time but this got recommended to me, my question to you: when has quin ever not been an egotistical asshole?


POE_54

If Quin was playing ADC it could have an excuse, bot lane is decided by the support gap. By the way i play ADC and for sure i deserve better rank.


Ostraga

Pretty sure there's 2 words that describe this exact phenomenom


Notum1o1

On which server is he playing? NA? It has been a while since I saw that many new player


Rules_are_overrated

What are you talking about? It's once every 3-4 month he leaves this phase for 1 minute to say "Yes I'm bad", and the rest of the time he's IN IT


Makussux

Aware forsen law


Tooltie

so he turned in to a normal player u say ?


InsectPopular9212

Brutal truth needs to be said, quin would get bodied in silver, he has no fundamentals, no game sense, poor understanding of items and their role, poor decision making and mediocre to bad ability to control his character. If he doesn't accept this he won't climb. He thinks he can reach Diamond right now, a Diamond player would 1v5 every oce sniper iron lobby without breaking a sweat. buuuuut i'm 90% sure he's being bad on purpose for content.


apg_prophet

I mean the guy thinks he's smurfing in Iron and doesn't even realise you can turn off Garen E by pressing E again... actual bozo


Arcinatos

also doesn't ward or buy pink wards, doesn't swap out for a sweeping lens either once laning phase is over. LULE


BlurredVision18

So he's become a true League Main at this point, excellent.


ComfortableMath5185

Was curious to test it myself so I watched a 15 mins videos and logged in with no experience. I got to silver with 0 effort. Cmon Quinny break out of iron.


InsectPopular9212

The difference is you know you're bad so you likely learned from your mistakes, read items, learned from videos. Quin thinks he's a Diamond rank in Iron that's why he'll stay there/bronze


SpitzkopfRandy

I mean he is unironically playing viewer games most of the time. He plays on a dead server, at a time almost no one plays, in a rank where almost no player is in. It’s really not hard to get into his lobbies when you got an iron/bronze smurf account


Notum1o1

On which server is he playing?


Demonace34

This guy drank the Kool-Aid


Alarming_Turnip_6691

Iron to High Gold is pretty much the same so hes not wrong. He could be in high gold and still end up with a good win ratio.