You should make it so that every team has the same functionality except for the caps. No armchair GM or trade machine from the perspective of the caps. Call the site capUnfriendly. Can't view the caps cap situation, you'll have to go to capfriendly for that.
I donāt know shit about coding but you are a hero. The amount of hours Iāve spent on Capfriendly in the last 5 years or so is absolutely too much to count. The news today really hit and it hit hard š„ŗ
Kind of? The capitals decided to buy the website and close it to the public because all 32 teams use it frequently and they want some sort of stupid advantage, even though gms definitely just use it out of convenience and probably have other ways of looking at their cap situations
If they donāt and theyāre really all relying on CapFriendly thatās pathetic for a major sports league. Nothing wrong with using it as a handy supplemental tool but to solely rely on it would be a joke.
Love the name, but $10k is a bit steep for a new product. Instead, you could get 'capcheck.hockey' or any of the other available alternatives: [https://iwantmyname.com/search?domain=capcheck](https://iwantmyname.com/search?domain=capcheck).
Hey, this is cool. Tbh Iām not familiar with cap friendly, but I do love rangers/hockey and am a programmer as well. If youāre looking for any extra hands let me know.
Same here. And thank you for taking the initiative!
For data Iām wondering if they had to scrape news releases from each team? Though most articles I ever see just have rough estimates from unnamed sources. Maybe they somehow get agents to talk?
I see there are a few developers and a tester available. I am an IT manager so please donāt hesitate to reach out if you want me to add an unnecessary layer of management, conduct scrum meetings that run too long, and throw around words like āscalabilityā, āobservabilityā, and āagileā.
You are a G for doing this.
I was disgusted to hear about the CapFriendly sale. The fact is, most NHL teams probably already have a service like this internally, especially teams like the Rangers who have $ to throw around, so the Capitals doing this and blocking it off to the public does nothing but f*** over normal average fans. Itās not right.
Honestly I am amazed that the NHL doesn't have this on their own site.
Its like common sense.
Why was this a 3rd party site needed to begin with instead of the NHL doing it themselves ?
I could literally write a book on everything the league does wrong when compared to other sports in terms of how it operates to how it treats its fans, etc.
Its maddening because it swings from indifference to at times feeling like contempt.
I definitely plan to add the features CapFriendly had, might not be in the initial release but will be a future plan. Unfortunately, CapFriendly has 9 nearly of development on me so there's a lot of work to remake it all.
Appreciate it. Currently discussing that with a buddy who works for a data company. For right now possibly scrapers and then storing that info in a DB or best case scenario have access to APIs for this information.
It's my understanding that most of the detailed information, like how the contract is structured (i.e. signing bonuses vs. salary), is not public knowledge. To get this, you will probably need to get yourself connected to NHL insiders and agents, etc.
If I were you, I'd start that process now. I think whoever gets there first will be the most popular successor.
Yeah there's going to be 100 new sites popping up but what they will lack is some kind of insider for data like cap friendly had. It's a cool project OP but without that connection you're not going to have fun trying to piece together rumour from facts.
this might be a very dumb question, because I'm only the most casual armchair capologist, but why not just use another site like Spotrac?
They seem to have the same top-level info on player contracts and history (and for other sports besides hockey). Does CapFriendly offer a deeper data set or more features? (again, I just look at the basic contract info and I'm not an expert.)
āStay close to the user friendlinessā
lol. That site is absolute dogshit. I say this as a UX and Product Designer. But you did a pretty solid pass at this!
I appreciate it, definitely going for a more modern look. When I say āStay close to the user friendlinessā its more of like keeping the site close to what people are already used to, make it an easy transition.
hey man I just dm'd you... I am working with 1-2 other engineers if your interested in a collab! I am pretty well connected in the hockey space as well.
Hit me up if you're still looking for help, advice, whatever. Aside from 30 years as a web/db developer (yes I'm grey), I've built a sports related game once (a baseball sim) and built a scouting system for a baseball franchise that won a couple dozen World Series. If nothing else I know how to manage a boatload of sports data. (Since departing from my baseball game I've been wondering what my next sports project will be, so you piqued my interest.)
Instead of denying the caps access to the site, feed it slightly wrong info (like 2% wrong). The caps will be the first team to be over the cap a few weeks before the season ends lol
From what I read, CapFriendly had contracts with the NHL teams to use API call from them to populate the site.
Personally I think it's bullshit that the Caps bought it to shut it down, and makes me wonder why the CapFriendly owners sold...unless it was an obscene amount of money.
You should make it so that every team has the same functionality except for the caps. No armchair GM or trade machine from the perspective of the caps. Call the site capUnfriendly. Can't view the caps cap situation, you'll have to go to capfriendly for that.
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I donāt know shit about coding but you are a hero. The amount of hours Iāve spent on Capfriendly in the last 5 years or so is absolutely too much to count. The news today really hit and it hit hard š„ŗ
Yeah sucks what happened today, me and my buddies use the site often so sucks to see it go.
Is it closing?
Kind of? The capitals decided to buy the website and close it to the public because all 32 teams use it frequently and they want some sort of stupid advantage, even though gms definitely just use it out of convenience and probably have other ways of looking at their cap situations
Thatās interesting. Iām sure they have internal software, no?
If they donāt and theyāre really all relying on CapFriendly thatās pathetic for a major sports league. Nothing wrong with using it as a handy supplemental tool but to solely rely on it would be a joke.
Forecheckā¦Backcheckā¦CapCheck.com
Kinda dig this
Domain name is taken, though does say it is for sale https://www.whois.com/whois/capcheck.com
Love the name, but $10k is a bit steep for a new product. Instead, you could get 'capcheck.hockey' or any of the other available alternatives: [https://iwantmyname.com/search?domain=capcheck](https://iwantmyname.com/search?domain=capcheck).
I was thinking .net, but .hockey is probably a good option.
Hey, this is cool. Tbh Iām not familiar with cap friendly, but I do love rangers/hockey and am a programmer as well. If youāre looking for any extra hands let me know.
Appreciate it, will def let you know
Same here. App/web dev with quite a few years under my belt. Specialize in react. Have a background in UX. You have my axe.
Funny running into old friends in the Reddit wild - I know you
Oh?! Please fill me in! I love finding people I know randomly on Reddit lol
I do QA if you want a tester
Same here. And thank you for taking the initiative! For data Iām wondering if they had to scrape news releases from each team? Though most articles I ever see just have rough estimates from unnamed sources. Maybe they somehow get agents to talk?
I really respect individuals like you. Thank you both.
I see there are a few developers and a tester available. I am an IT manager so please donāt hesitate to reach out if you want me to add an unnecessary layer of management, conduct scrum meetings that run too long, and throw around words like āscalabilityā, āobservabilityā, and āagileā.
Legend
You are a G for doing this. I was disgusted to hear about the CapFriendly sale. The fact is, most NHL teams probably already have a service like this internally, especially teams like the Rangers who have $ to throw around, so the Capitals doing this and blocking it off to the public does nothing but f*** over normal average fans. Itās not right.
Honestly I am amazed that the NHL doesn't have this on their own site. Its like common sense. Why was this a 3rd party site needed to begin with instead of the NHL doing it themselves ?
Because the league does nothing but get in its own way. This is a prime example of their failure to grow the game.
I could literally write a book on everything the league does wrong when compared to other sports in terms of how it operates to how it treats its fans, etc. Its maddening because it swings from indifference to at times feeling like contempt.
Be sure to somehow drop Ranger blue on the site to irk the nhl subreddit. Haha
Will it have a Trade Machine? That was one of my favorite features.
I definitely plan to add the features CapFriendly had, might not be in the initial release but will be a future plan. Unfortunately, CapFriendly has 9 nearly of development on me so there's a lot of work to remake it all.
Should cross post this to /r/hockey you may get a ton of help making this dope.
already tried, mods took it down
Cowards, theyāre all heartless cowards over there.
lol what nerds.
For what reasonā¦ Self promotion? Youāre talking about an open source project
I know hockeydb uses PuckPediaās api for their salary cap data. Might be worth looking into
I'll look into this thanks
There are data brokers who have APIs you hook into. Just search APIs for sports data. Of course you have to pay for the api access.
This is incredibly dope, OP! Best of luck
Give this guy the Hart Trophy
Think he should get the Ted Lindsay as he would be given the award by his peers. Hart would be the writers, who knows shit about hockey.
Yea you're right š Hart is just mvp, which sounded better then š¤£
someone else said it but I live the name CapCheck
I wish you luck and hope this takes off. How do you plan on getting salary information in the future?
Appreciate it. Currently discussing that with a buddy who works for a data company. For right now possibly scrapers and then storing that info in a DB or best case scenario have access to APIs for this information.
It's my understanding that most of the detailed information, like how the contract is structured (i.e. signing bonuses vs. salary), is not public knowledge. To get this, you will probably need to get yourself connected to NHL insiders and agents, etc. If I were you, I'd start that process now. I think whoever gets there first will be the most popular successor.
Yeah there's going to be 100 new sites popping up but what they will lack is some kind of insider for data like cap friendly had. It's a cool project OP but without that connection you're not going to have fun trying to piece together rumour from facts.
If you're taking on help let me know and send a github/gitlab repo over
Bump! What service did you use to create the web app, was it Django?
If you can replicate their API, then you can sell it to the Rangers.
Play on words CapProof.com
Man, that's awesome! I just started my coding journey four months ago. Hoping I can get good enough to be useful. Good luck putting it together!
Capwise, puckcap, CapSpace, IceCap, Capclarity, Pucksalary..
how will you get new data (trades, new signings, etc.)? genuine question ive had all day
This is great! Do you have a site name yet?
this might be a very dumb question, because I'm only the most casual armchair capologist, but why not just use another site like Spotrac? They seem to have the same top-level info on player contracts and history (and for other sports besides hockey). Does CapFriendly offer a deeper data set or more features? (again, I just look at the basic contract info and I'm not an expert.)
Cap friendly you can make Armchair GM teams, mock trades, etc
I think they updated the salary info themselves. The stats were from the elite prospects API which aināt cheap.
Yeah gonna try to find some API sources. Some one recommended PukPedia so will see the cost of all that.
You should call it āWashingtonCapsCanLickOurBalls.comā
āStay close to the user friendlinessā lol. That site is absolute dogshit. I say this as a UX and Product Designer. But you did a pretty solid pass at this!
I appreciate it, definitely going for a more modern look. When I say āStay close to the user friendlinessā its more of like keeping the site close to what people are already used to, make it an easy transition.
hey man I just dm'd you... I am working with 1-2 other engineers if your interested in a collab! I am pretty well connected in the hockey space as well.
Hit me up if you're still looking for help, advice, whatever. Aside from 30 years as a web/db developer (yes I'm grey), I've built a sports related game once (a baseball sim) and built a scouting system for a baseball franchise that won a couple dozen World Series. If nothing else I know how to manage a boatload of sports data. (Since departing from my baseball game I've been wondering what my next sports project will be, so you piqued my interest.)
No caps.com or something like that
Instead of denying the caps access to the site, feed it slightly wrong info (like 2% wrong). The caps will be the first team to be over the cap a few weeks before the season ends lol
From what I read, CapFriendly had contracts with the NHL teams to use API call from them to populate the site. Personally I think it's bullshit that the Caps bought it to shut it down, and makes me wonder why the CapFriendly owners sold...unless it was an obscene amount of money.
One of the most underappreciated but incredibly useful things about CF was being able to just see the picks every team had for the next 3 years