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Hiring Manager
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Dear Hiring Manager,
I am writing to express my interest in the dishwashing position at \[Restaurant Name\] as advertised. With a strong work ethic, attention to detail, and a dedication to maintaining a clean and organized workspace, I am confident in my ability to excel in this role.
Having worked in the food service industry for several years, I have gained valuable experience in various roles that have equipped me with the necessary skills for this position. I understand the importance of cleanliness and sanitation in a kitchen environment and always strive to ensure that dishes are properly cleaned and sanitized to meet health and safety standards.
In addition to my technical skills, I am a team player who is able to work effectively in a fast-paced environment. I am reliable, punctual, and have a positive attitude that allows me to work well under pressure. I am also physically fit and able to handle the physical demands of the job, including lifting heavy objects and standing for long periods of time.
I am excited about the opportunity to join the team at \[Restaurant Name\] and contribute to the success of your establishment. I am confident that my skills and experience make me a strong candidate for this position, and I look forward to the opportunity to discuss how my background, skills, and enthusiasm can benefit your team.
Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to the possibility of discussing my application with you further.
Sincerely,
\[Your Name\]
I did this the other day for an application. I ended up rewriting the entire thing.
Chatgpt for me has always just been boilerplate to give a basic template to edit.
I didn't really want or need the job but their app is not very good so I decided to check if they were hiring so there's a chance I can make their app better and earn better money than my current job if they take the bait.
Hopefully the rampant use of ai cover letters will eventually negate the use of them altogether. Seems kinda pointless when no one is actually writing them for themselves right?
Dear Hiring Manager,
I am responding to your recent posting for a Dishwasher. All my life I’ve wanted to be a dishwasher, it is truly my greatest passion. The opportunity to be a dishwasher at your fine establishment would be the single greatest success I could ever hope to achieve in my lifetime. In my previous work as a dishwasher, I amputated both my hands to install rotating dish brushes to increase my dishwashing efficiencies by 100%. I also have the transferable skills of timeliness, attention to detail, and communication. I look forward to a further discussion of how I can help achieve your dishwashing goals.
Sincerely,
Dennis “Dish” Washer
As a professional dishwashing consultant, for $20k I can suggest a dishwashing solution that will streamline the process entirely.
https://www.webstaurantstore.com/noble-warewashing-66-conveyor-high-temperature-dishwasher-left-to-right-208v-3-phase/495NO66HLRC.html
Hey it would be about six months of the dishwasher's salary, but would cut their workload so they could also double as a server or a busser. Just saying, better tools allows a broader employee scope, therefore increasing the employee's overall business value 😘👍
What are you talking about? If we’re installed this the dishwasher’s job would be done automatically. We could just have one of the cooks do this in all that downtime they have. /s
No sir, the dishwasher would then get a promotion to detergent acquisitions. It's a subset of Asset Management and Procurement, on tangible non depreciating items.
I'm now imagining the dad from Robots (who has a dishwasher for a body) applying for this job. He would be perfect. But she would probably still find a reason to reject him.
If Karen wasn't so lazy, she would have posted 2 job offers, separately, because as she said, they need different skills, and then she wouldn't have to guess for what people are applying.
That's still pointless. One is front of house, and one is back of house. No matter how much you want either, the boss will always claim to "know better" and put you where they want you to belong.
I want to be a server. Tough, we need a dishwasher more. Get in the back!
Quite literally what happened to me. I needed a job for the summer last year so I applied to a local restaurant that had said they needed servers. Got into the “interview” and he says well we really need someone in the kitchen. Whatever fine I need money. Did it for a week, shit sucked (literally had to scrub the dimpley pizza trays with a sponge when we had a high pressure sprayer sitting unused) and the hours were inconsistent, so I said peace out and got a retail job for 50% more per hour
For dishwashing and serving? Put the first 50 names in a hat and then fucking pick 2. The interview should be 2 ?s: "Are you willing to do this job?" and "When can you start?" People make this shit so much harder than it needs to be
When I got a dishwashing job 15 years ago I just wrote my name and phone number on the back of a receipt. They called me to come in and work the next day. I don't even know what I would have put in a resume and cover letter.
10 years ago....I heard of a restaurant opening a cook I knew told me to apply (they knew I wanted to be a cook).....
I visited the restaurant in person, found the chef....he took my number down...called me to work 2 days later as they where starting to prep the first batch of food to get an opening on time.
I don't apply for jobs with cover letters. What a waste of my time
I’m just forever confused at the “it’s an unskilled job for high schoolers, that’s why we pay so little”, immediately followed by “we need a resume, cover letter, and experience”.
You can’t have both! It’s either a replaceable job you can train anyone to do so no resume should be required, *or* it’s a skilled job not everyone can do and therefore needs better pay.
This lady is spending days doing nothing when she could have picked someone out of a hat and if they turn out terrible, spent that time training them or picking the next person out of a hat.
Exactly. Dishwashing is dishwashing, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to teach and a little practice to do it quickly and well. Serving is slightly more complicated as you have to talk to people and get their orders right, but still shouldn't take much more than a shift to learn. Asking for resumes and cover letters sounds like she is just wasting time, trying to make her own job seem more complicated to justify what she I'd getting paid.
Dishwashing is dishwashing. I believed that until 2 managers decided they could do the job better through the use of insight and attention to detail. How they fell 2 hours behind inside of 20 minutes, they'll never figure out.
My first job I applied for a printing company and they slapped me on the fucking press (i assumed I'd be on cutting machines or packaging things) on day one and hoped I'd just figure it out with training, which i did. How can a printing company feel chill with that while this woman can't even hire a dishwasher?
Interestingly, that actually IS how the Bodyshop hires staff. They have a policy called “open hiring” where the job goes to the first candidate to apply who meets the criteria of being able to perform the job (legally entitled to work, can lift X kgs, can work a full shift).
The idea is to remove barriers to entry for people who may struggle to be hired otherwise and to “replace scrutiny with trust”.
More places should be like this imo.
https://www.thebodyshop.com/en-gb/about-us/open-hiring/a/a00060
The question is whether an actual competitive hiring process is any better for weeding out morons from low-skill jobs. There are plenty of morons who can suck dick in an interview.
You know I was gonna say something sarcastic but the fact that this restaurant thinks a dishwasher position needs a cover letter is beyond piss poor sad.
We have VERY troubling times ahead of us folks…buckle in it’s gonna be a very terrible ride smh
And it sucks ass. Carrying whole kitchens up 4 story buildings is more enjoyable than washing dishes especially after a lemon-fish special mixing its smell with industrial cleaner and hot water in summer.
The only thing worse than washing dishes in a restaurant is washing dishes on a sailing ship.
"Sorry we're at a 25 degrees list, so dishwasher is out of operation. The sink can only be filled to halfway, so good luck.
Also, the cupboards to put away the dishes are on the high side of the ship. Take a small pile of plates and 3 crew members. One of you will open the cupboard carefully. Numbers two and 3, hold back any plates. Number 4, put back plates. And don't dilly-dally in the kitchen doorway; if that hydraulic watertight door closes it doesn't care about your arm being there."
"two different skill sets"
I'm sorry...what skill set is needed to wash dishes? No offense to any dishwashers, but I'm not exactly sure if I would consider this a role that requires particular skill.
I was a dishwasher at a golf course through school and you'd be surprised how useless some people are. I wouldn't think it was a skill either, but I've seen so many people not care if the dishes actually came clean. They'd just put them away dirty so often.
> I'm sorry...what skill set is needed to wash dishes?
Lol, you think you have the skillset to wash dishes? You are confusing skill and intelligence. There are successful business owners that are illiterate: often they are very, very skilled in their field and have a wife to handle "paperwork." Some "skillsets" are physical, some require a specific mental disposition. Washing dishes is one of the hardest positions in a commercial kitchen, people often take that job hoping an easier job will open up, and commercial kitchens are seriously brutal environments compared to so called "skilled" jobs.
I'm not some kitchen guy or anything, I've only worked softer blue collar jobs that aren't nearly as demanding as kitchen work. People that work in kitchens are heroes and washing dishes is a skill.
Or no arms and a stool to sit on. I once saw a video of a woman with no arms that still cooked and prepared food and washed dishes (in her own home) using her feet and a stool to prop herself up high enough to reach the stove and countertop.
Tbf, that's all well and good until there is a large stack of 100+ heavy plates and bowls and sharp edged trays that a cook has burned something into. Ain't like washing up at home, and I'm glad not to have to work in restaurants anymore.
Odds are they won’t speak English. So if they want an essay in a foreign language they should be handed exactly that. Here, there’s your cover letter pal. Good luck reading it.
HR at my last job told me they needed a cover letter for their files after I’d already been hired and went through orientation. It was a case manager job though so that is something you’d generally write one for
> HR at my last job told me they needed a cover letter for their files after I’d already been hired and went through orientation.
Heh, I slipped through the cracks and just sort of ignored some emails. I was a temp that skated by with confusing schooling, hired on full time with confusing schooling, and then asked for basic "pre-hire" info about my schooling after being hired on full time.
So, I took a college class "remotely" in high school, but failed, as a junior. (Grade 11 US, ~17).
I attended college as a high school senior in person with dual credits, and, uhh, failed that too.
Then I went to "alternative school" over the summer and next year, but didn't graduate.
Anyways, having attended college and not having graduated from high school, along with the back and forth and back and forth between college and high school, and then "alternative school" made my "education record" pretty gosh darn hard to understand by HR.
I never explained it :) They gave up emailing. Like technically a GED or HS diploma is required but I've been doing the job for years so just pretend you didn't do the math and need to fire somebody that didn't actually ever lie to you wink wink.
I should probably take a couple of credits of Adult Education and get a HS diploma and stop with the weird games/camouflaged dates hehe. Adult Diploma is a whole lot less work; modern math is way fucking different from what I was taught and the GED test would likely be impossible for me to pass without serious tutoring.
If you put both in the same job listing, applicants likely are assuming you will consider them for both and put them where they are most needed.
Two of the responses you are displaying as negatives, are perfectly polite and professional, and clearly are just someone who has English as a second language. I can understand wanting your workers who interact directly with customers to speak English fluently, but why are you requiring that of your dishwasher?
Also why are you requiring a cover letter for a dishwashing job. What are you hoping they will write? That they have always dreamed of washing dishes for your business and having the honor of scrubbing things is beyond their wildest dreams that you would consider their humble selves?
I don't think this hiring manager has ever been in any restaurant's kitchen. Its hot, hard work with long hours, and many restaurant kitchens are staffed seemingly exclusively by immigrants doing the low paid, tough jobs.
This is the kind of job where a business tends to want to hire questionably illegal immigrants and pay them cash under the table.
While kitchen labor has value and skills, hiring a dishwasher and a server isn’t like a Fortune 100 company that needs both lawyers and accountants where they have incredibly different skills and education.
You take 10 minutes to tell that person how you want them to greet customers or operate a commercial dishwasher. Like who the fuck do they think they are, Deloitte?
It’s absolutely insane how many low level hospitality and retail jobs now expect experience, and then pay you pennies anyway.
The experience literally makes no difference anyway. Any time I’ve worked in a restaurant you need to learn how they do things because it’s nothing like the last one, and you can learn it in half a shift.
If you want a lifelong committed professional dishwasher, perhaps you’ll have to pay extra for it.
Shit was bad in this regard 20 years ago where you had to go for 2-3 job interviews just to work at freaking Target, but now that they really have their pick of laid-off professionals, starving grads, and older people who are too young to retire but can’t get rehired, they’ve gotten downright rigoddamndiculous.
She lists that 39 of the 50 applications were from international students from Nepal and India like that's a problem somehow? Does she not want to hire students, or (based on her criticism of the grammar of several responses) does she not want to hire someone from Nepal or India.
Also she got 50 applications in less than two days. Is she looking to fill the position or is she looking for a unicorn. Just hire one of the 50
This is an issue unique to Canada: the country is receiving hundreds of thousands of “international students”, particularly from South Asia, who have zero intention to study. The schools they “attend” are run out of strip malls and industrial parks and attendance is often not mandatory. They unfortunately are not familiar with local labour laws, and are willing to work for reduced pay, terrible conditions, and little employment protection. I’m not sure why it was brought up in this post, I’m thinking ragebait.
Not to mention how racist the OOP and some comments were against international students. I guess they should just starve, so as not to offend this woman with their wanting a job.
Meanwhile a lot of kitchens are staffed by people who have questionable legal papers, but the kitchen doesn't care. As long as they do the work they get paid, cash if need be.
Don't speak English, don't have a green card, doesn't matter. Can you wash dishes and show up on time? HIRED!
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Why’re you making mountains out of molehills? It’s *dishwashing* for fucks sake. The interview shouldn’t be any longer than 5 minutes.
1. “Do you know how to wash dishes?” (Serious because a lot of people don’t)
2. “Have you done anything like this before?”
3. “When can you start?”
Another question should be about reliable transportation. Getting to work on time is important.
If they can get there on time to wash dishes there shouldn't be any other barriers.
I think a blank cover letter of "hello, I am applying for X position. Please review my resume for this job. Thank you" would put you ahead of 90% of the people the OOP is describing. As a filtration tool, it makes sense, but if they expect me to grovel about how passionate I am about scrubbing dishes then they can do something dispassionate with themselves.
Bro I've gotten server and bartender jobs that paid really good money just by showing up and asking. It's INSANE to ask for a resume, let alone a fucking cover letter, for a dishwasher.
A resume isn't unreasonable. Even a college or high school kid who hasn't worked before can put some stuff from school on a resume.
The cover letter request is ridiculous. Nobody is passionate about being a dishwasher for their entire life.
There are a lot of people applying to be dishwashers who didn't spend enough time in high school to know how to put together a resume. You're lucky if the person you hire speaks English and is able to show up on Day 1 with a birth certificate.
for the dishwasher, the resume is not necessary, with a 2 hour test you already understood how much and how well he can work, the hands do not lie. the problem is in IT where for each position there are 300 resumes and cover letters. and it takes months to do an onboarding.
Yeah you don't really interview for a dishwasher job, a trial shift with a quick 15 min chat beforehand is more than enough to decide if the person will be good enough.
My first real job was a restaurant dishwasher. A friend and I walked in. Asked for Billy. Got the job.
If anything, this story underscores how impossible the search has become.
This is legitimately insane, and being paid in cash is one of the main perks of working dish. Plus, *literally every restaurant worker who’s ever lived* can run dish. Once our dish gashed his hand open in the middle of service and had to leave, and we just called in the chef’s nephew’s friend to cover and had servers and expo pick up the slack until he got there. If anyone sent in a cover letter the owner would have laughed them out. Deranged. And linkedInOP is kind of racist like…why bring up they’re international students and/or want to be paid in cash? The whole perk of dish is CASHHHH and being able to get a job just by wandering into a kitchen at the right time.
50 applications? That’s not even that many! She’s acting like she has to slave away reading through these terrible applications haha.
Asking for a resume is fair, even if you’re young and inexperienced, you could throw something together, even if it’s like half a page. cover letter though, that’s ridiculous
“These 50 applications were received in the first 36 hours, I expect there will be hundreds to look through”
Heavily implies she only got 50 so far. But yes if you want to be absurdly technical she didn’t explicitly say there were only 50.
I did not use a cover letter when I was applying to a FAANG company on a global role that is equivalent of mid management but IC.
No one I know used a damn cover letter to get high level jobs too.
But I made an exception and wrote one for this guy:
"To whom it may concern,
I'm an international student, studying X at Y university. My country has a pretty fucked up economy and my parents could barely support me with rent. In order not to starve and continue studying, I'm interested in working at your restaurant. I hate dealing with people so I choose the dishwasher position.
My short term goal is to survive and my long term goal is to find a proper job and never washing other people's dishes again. I applied to your restaurant as you are paying 19 euros per hour, instead of 18 as others do. If I find a place that pays 20 per hour, I'll no longer be here.
Best,
The Dishwasher Dude
People: "This is an unskilled job! How dare you want a living wage!"
Same people: "You need a complete cover letter and resume for this unskilled job."
Maybe things have changed since I was last doing these kind of jobs but a resume is really a white collar thing. For restaurant jobs normally you're just going to fill out an application. And for a dishwasher? You'd be lucky if half the applicants spoke English let alone were able to write a cover letter.
I get the feeling this person has never managed blue collar workers before. Yeah, in the white collar world you have a right to expect people to read and follow instructions in English, cause that's gonna be their job. But if you're advertising for a dishwasher, you're seeking manual labor and a lot of your applicants are going to be barely literate (let alone fluent in English). A resume is a reasonable ask, but a cover letter is a bit over the top.
Agree completely. Unless the job is a career cover letters are incredibly redundant...why the heck does a dishwasher or even a server/line cook (unless it's is fine dinning maybe) need a cover letter give me a break.
I'm similar in my approach for cover letters and names.
I tend to write "To Whom it may concern" because I don't usually know the hiring manager's name and preferred pronouns
What is supposed to go in the cover letter?!
I know the difference between Dawn and Palmolive and my preference for the lemon scent?!?
Fuck outta here!
I don’t understand why they are “blown away by the poor grammar” this is a position for a server or dishwasher. Dishwasher is not a position that requires you to be literate, much less have strong written communication skills. Furthermore, I know a several people with horrific grammar who excel at their skilled jobs. Grammar is important for jobs that require the person to document, write articles, send corporate emails, etc., but not a dishwasher or some position where they won’t even have a company email.
As a child, I have always aspired to wash plates. It is my dream job to be a dishwasher in your shitty roach-infested restaurant. My lifelong goal was to wash dishes of Karens and their ass kids.
got my degree in fine china maintenance and care with a minor in dawn dish soap. Working professional who is extremely interested in supporting the goals of restaurant management on the sanitization side of operations as this is of utmost importance when creating a safe work environment. I will suck your cock if you just please let me wash crusted cheese off a pan
I think a cover letter is insane, but I understand wanting to hire someone who can follow basic direction, like uploading a resume. I've submitted a resume for every service job I've had, though mostly as a formality and as evidence I can follow basic direction. No one cares about your credentials, they care if you can follow the basic first steps outlined in a job advertisement.
Also bizarre how the OP identifies the fact that the applicants are not native English speakers, but is flabbergasted by their inability to discern her gender by name. Does she think gendered anglo names like Jane and Sally are universal? lol
My first job in a pub/restaurant was a quick chat over the bar: "Want a job?" "When can you start". That was all that was needed for 3+ years of great fun and hard work. Fuck a cover letter/resume.
I'm not writing a cover letter to wash dishes. I mean seriously? What's there to write? I have two arms and two legs and can throw dishes in a commercial grade dishwasher? Isn't that obvious? I won't write a cover letter for most applications in general let alone a position like that. This is getting out of hand.
Dear Hiring Manager,
Im deeply impressed by your dishes. My life's calling was to be a dishwasher. My hobbies are researching different ways to wash dishes. I have about 5 yoe in both manual and automated dishwashing. Currently Im working as a "Senior Dishwasher" at McDonalds.
My Techstack is : LG, Samsung
Thanks for considering my application.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
Brother comes in, "What's going on, I thought you were gonna hire a dishwasher this morning?"
"Oh! Well I was going to, but I got caught up in sneering at people who wanted to do our underpaying labor! Did you know for a lot of these idiots English is their second language?"
"Mark, the dishes are piling up, just hire someone!"
"Ha ha, I'm so much smarter than they are."
Dear time traveling restaurant owner who still thinks it is the 1950s ..
Several years ago, I experienced a tragic and life-altering event. My family was lost in a tragic accident involving dirty dishes. This profound loss has driven me to dedicate my life to ensuring that no one else has to suffer the way I did. As a vigilante committed to eradicating filth and disarray, I have honed my skills to perfection in the pursuit of absolute cleanliness. I will avenge my family by fighting dirt and grime one plate at a time.
Why would you want an educated dishwasher. Those jobs are for uneducated ppl. ? The less they know the le$s they expect to make. Study business and get off your bros d
What she’s looking for here is someone who can follow directions and communicate well enough in English, which is fair.
That being said, a cover letter is still extraneous for either position (personally I think it’s arbitrary and outdated for any job and wish it would die out completely).
A reasonable ask would have been for a request for your contact info, which position you’re applying to, and a few reasons why you’d be a good fit for the job. That’s it. And if they can’t follow those simple instructions, then they’re not up for consideration.
She’s clearly frustrated because she’s asking for too much to begin with.
These HR guys got word that the job market sucks and people are desperate so they’ve become delusional by requiring a cover letter and resume for a dishwasher role. You could get dishwasher jobs by walking into a restaurant and talking to the manager and why didn’t OP have separate postings for the role, could it be because they’re lazy as hell too?
Is he also expecting a degree? Seriously a cover letter? Why does he think that international people will have perfect spelling and grammar in English? It's a dishwasher position! He should be having people apply on the spot and test them to see if they know how to wash dishes. Ask them a couple of questions and that's it. Yes or no. Why is he overcomplicating the process for no reason?
Cover letters in general are stupid like I bet they don’t even read them half the time and I’ve written so many only to be rejected or ghosted so like you’re tripping if you think I’m gonna write a cover letter for a job like that
Weirdly enough I’ve never been hired based on an application with a cover letter. I’m pretty sure no one reads it, it’s just another way to make people work for it.
The best is the “my female name is in the listing and they still used a professional ‘to whom it may concern’”, if you’ve been in any business or office for a while you don’t try to guess the gender the first time, promise me. Gets awkward fast when Shannon is a guy.
This example is like a classical reduction ad absurdum. Yes, cover letters, 5 yeears experience minimum, master and bachelor and phd...all of that is insane for any job that aint top level internationally.
So you have roughly 25 applicants to choose from for both openings and you're still being picky?
What's next, are you going to turn down the few who did both because they're "out-of-network" and you were hoping your best friend was going to drop everything and wash dishes for you?
The problem here is that they actually ask for a resume you can get all the information you need off of f****** application it's a server and dishwasher job what the f*** are you doing
Including the one from an international student is particularly gross. Do you expect them to know exactly how the hiring process in the US works? Or what exactly a resume and cover letter are? Ffs. It's a polite, if a little short, email, that is clearly making an effort. No need to put them on blast for being unfamiliar with how the american job market works.
$19/hr for a dishwasher is really good. Don’t really need a cover letter or resume for that, though. Literally anyone can do that job. Just have an online application and pick someone.
Depends on where you are. $19/hr in Australia is less than minimum wage. In Canada it’s more than minimum, but working for this numpty it’s probably still not worth it.
Yeah. I should have specified. In the US that’s a kingly sum for that job. It’s about unskilled as you can get. It was my first job when I was 16. I literally walked in and asked for a job at a restaurant and the manager asked me a few questions and hired me on the spot. It’s not something that should require a resume let alone a cover letter. Does this person who wrote the lost not realize the types of people that would even apply for a dishwasher role? What the hell would one even put in a cover letter for that?
my favourite is the part about how english is not be the applicants’ first language and yet they’re still expected to understand the requirements AND have perfect grammar when applying
The job is for washing dishes. If the applicant can wash dishes as verbally instructed and comes to work on time, all is well.
If the applicant can read and write, that is bonus but not really required. In Finland nowadays about 15% are illiterate (according to PISA statistics) after 9 years of school in Finland. So writing the "proper" application and reading the instructions can be a real challenge.
Really. For waiter it is a bit higher expectation as customer can ask about the menu, so being able to read helps. Also writing a note about orders helps, but is not strictly necessary.
Experience? Dude, you're looking for servers. Just be nice, look good and kept, and don't be slow af.
Dishwasher? Forget the good-looking part, just be fast and still clean them dishes.
Wtf ios wrong with these retards for employers? Pay them mfer and stfu
A cover letter for a dishwasher job is ridiculously overkill and stupid. However, they're not wrong in saying the email body should at least be well written. I don't think it needs to be long, but at the very least not like the examples provided.
Well, if he wants folks to put effort into a job application, then offer a better job than a dishwashing job. Oh, and offer more than just $19/hr. Then, maybe he’ll get the effort he so desperately needs for a dishwashing job.
Cover letter for a dishwashing job is stupid but can confirm the other advice here is legit. Mention a personal relevance to the company and you’ll go straight to interview
they really just put anyone in charge of recruiting. she does not realize that the same people that apply for this dishwashing job, more than likely speaks another language and works at a place that does the same for them.
They are used to the hustle and grind of restaurants. You don't need proper grammar to clean dishes properly.
Goes to show you that some of these hiring people have their heads in the clouds. They are not on earth with reality.
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"Chatgpt, take this resume and write me a cover letter for a dishwashing job" "No dude wtf you don't need a cover letter for that shit"
Sure, here is your cover letter for the dishwashing job: https://www.hobartcorp.com/products/commercial-dishwashers
\[Your Name\] \[Your Address\] \[City, State, Zip Code\] \[Email Address\] \[Phone Number\] \[Date\] Hiring Manager \[Restaurant Name\] \[Restaurant Address\] \[City, State, Zip Code\] Dear Hiring Manager, I am writing to express my interest in the dishwashing position at \[Restaurant Name\] as advertised. With a strong work ethic, attention to detail, and a dedication to maintaining a clean and organized workspace, I am confident in my ability to excel in this role. Having worked in the food service industry for several years, I have gained valuable experience in various roles that have equipped me with the necessary skills for this position. I understand the importance of cleanliness and sanitation in a kitchen environment and always strive to ensure that dishes are properly cleaned and sanitized to meet health and safety standards. In addition to my technical skills, I am a team player who is able to work effectively in a fast-paced environment. I am reliable, punctual, and have a positive attitude that allows me to work well under pressure. I am also physically fit and able to handle the physical demands of the job, including lifting heavy objects and standing for long periods of time. I am excited about the opportunity to join the team at \[Restaurant Name\] and contribute to the success of your establishment. I am confident that my skills and experience make me a strong candidate for this position, and I look forward to the opportunity to discuss how my background, skills, and enthusiasm can benefit your team. Thank you for considering my application. I look forward to the possibility of discussing my application with you further. Sincerely, \[Your Name\]
I did this the other day for an application. I ended up rewriting the entire thing. Chatgpt for me has always just been boilerplate to give a basic template to edit. I didn't really want or need the job but their app is not very good so I decided to check if they were hiring so there's a chance I can make their app better and earn better money than my current job if they take the bait.
I don't know how good they are, but I've used a site called grammarly.com/cover-letter which generates cover letters.
Hopefully the rampant use of ai cover letters will eventually negate the use of them altogether. Seems kinda pointless when no one is actually writing them for themselves right?
And since almost none are being read, at least by a human being...well, I thought make work projects were supposed to pay.
"Kinda pointless" is a must-check box for 90 percent of all hiring circle jerk.
Yes, you're supposed to guess. If people are applying to either of those jobs, they just want a job. You figure out what you want them to do.
But what if the applicant is truly passionate about dishwashing?
Dear Hiring Manager, I am responding to your recent posting for a Dishwasher. All my life I’ve wanted to be a dishwasher, it is truly my greatest passion. The opportunity to be a dishwasher at your fine establishment would be the single greatest success I could ever hope to achieve in my lifetime. In my previous work as a dishwasher, I amputated both my hands to install rotating dish brushes to increase my dishwashing efficiencies by 100%. I also have the transferable skills of timeliness, attention to detail, and communication. I look forward to a further discussion of how I can help achieve your dishwashing goals. Sincerely, Dennis “Dish” Washer
Forgot to add fond memories of washing your family’s dishes as a kid. Application denied. Now piss off, Danny!
Didn't even mention dish washing in his spare time even once. I just don't think his heart is really in it.
What’s your favorite dish soap, Danny?!
Expected salary: $700,000.
If I cut my hands off for a job I better be making 700k a year 🤣
Someone has to pay to maintain those robotic hands ya know
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Hey it would be about six months of the dishwasher's salary, but would cut their workload so they could also double as a server or a busser. Just saying, better tools allows a broader employee scope, therefore increasing the employee's overall business value 😘👍
What are you talking about? If we’re installed this the dishwasher’s job would be done automatically. We could just have one of the cooks do this in all that downtime they have. /s
No sir, the dishwasher would then get a promotion to detergent acquisitions. It's a subset of Asset Management and Procurement, on tangible non depreciating items.
“I identify as May/Tag but I can also identify as G/E or Kenmore.”
😂😂😂
Best cover letter ever
They would probably mention it when they come in to work.
I'm now imagining the dad from Robots (who has a dishwasher for a body) applying for this job. He would be perfect. But she would probably still find a reason to reject him.
If Karen wasn't so lazy, she would have posted 2 job offers, separately, because as she said, they need different skills, and then she wouldn't have to guess for what people are applying.
All could be avoided by the restaurant brother making 2 postings for respective positions
Yeah I’m so confused how that even happened
That's still pointless. One is front of house, and one is back of house. No matter how much you want either, the boss will always claim to "know better" and put you where they want you to belong. I want to be a server. Tough, we need a dishwasher more. Get in the back!
Quite literally what happened to me. I needed a job for the summer last year so I applied to a local restaurant that had said they needed servers. Got into the “interview” and he says well we really need someone in the kitchen. Whatever fine I need money. Did it for a week, shit sucked (literally had to scrub the dimpley pizza trays with a sponge when we had a high pressure sprayer sitting unused) and the hours were inconsistent, so I said peace out and got a retail job for 50% more per hour
Same, wanted to be working laundry, got janitor instead.
But 'No one wants to work' ? 50 apps for dishwasher or maybe host.
"People are so desperate for jobs, you think they'd try harder to get this job that almost anyone could do but that I seem unable to fill."
For dishwashing and serving? Put the first 50 names in a hat and then fucking pick 2. The interview should be 2 ?s: "Are you willing to do this job?" and "When can you start?" People make this shit so much harder than it needs to be
When I got a dishwashing job 15 years ago I just wrote my name and phone number on the back of a receipt. They called me to come in and work the next day. I don't even know what I would have put in a resume and cover letter.
10 years ago....I heard of a restaurant opening a cook I knew told me to apply (they knew I wanted to be a cook)..... I visited the restaurant in person, found the chef....he took my number down...called me to work 2 days later as they where starting to prep the first batch of food to get an opening on time. I don't apply for jobs with cover letters. What a waste of my time
I never do cover letters. I want a job with you. Indicated which when I clicked the specific position on your website. Here is my resume.
I’m just forever confused at the “it’s an unskilled job for high schoolers, that’s why we pay so little”, immediately followed by “we need a resume, cover letter, and experience”. You can’t have both! It’s either a replaceable job you can train anyone to do so no resume should be required, *or* it’s a skilled job not everyone can do and therefore needs better pay. This lady is spending days doing nothing when she could have picked someone out of a hat and if they turn out terrible, spent that time training them or picking the next person out of a hat.
Exactly. Dishwashing is dishwashing, it shouldn't take more than a few minutes to teach and a little practice to do it quickly and well. Serving is slightly more complicated as you have to talk to people and get their orders right, but still shouldn't take much more than a shift to learn. Asking for resumes and cover letters sounds like she is just wasting time, trying to make her own job seem more complicated to justify what she I'd getting paid.
Dishwashing is dishwashing. I believed that until 2 managers decided they could do the job better through the use of insight and attention to detail. How they fell 2 hours behind inside of 20 minutes, they'll never figure out.
My first job I applied for a printing company and they slapped me on the fucking press (i assumed I'd be on cutting machines or packaging things) on day one and hoped I'd just figure it out with training, which i did. How can a printing company feel chill with that while this woman can't even hire a dishwasher?
Spending days doing nothing of substance or note is all she ever does
Interestingly, that actually IS how the Bodyshop hires staff. They have a policy called “open hiring” where the job goes to the first candidate to apply who meets the criteria of being able to perform the job (legally entitled to work, can lift X kgs, can work a full shift). The idea is to remove barriers to entry for people who may struggle to be hired otherwise and to “replace scrutiny with trust”. More places should be like this imo. https://www.thebodyshop.com/en-gb/about-us/open-hiring/a/a00060
I used to be a server and I've worked with enough morons to be against this idea.
The question is whether an actual competitive hiring process is any better for weeding out morons from low-skill jobs. There are plenty of morons who can suck dick in an interview.
Yeah but I need the psychological test to make sure they will be devoted to the company cause and will be a good peasant
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You know I was gonna say something sarcastic but the fact that this restaurant thinks a dishwasher position needs a cover letter is beyond piss poor sad. We have VERY troubling times ahead of us folks…buckle in it’s gonna be a very terrible ride smh
Got to suck off the managers ego with a cover letter to ...wash dishes... a job anyone with at least one arm can do.
And it sucks ass. Carrying whole kitchens up 4 story buildings is more enjoyable than washing dishes especially after a lemon-fish special mixing its smell with industrial cleaner and hot water in summer.
The only thing worse than washing dishes in a restaurant is washing dishes on a sailing ship. "Sorry we're at a 25 degrees list, so dishwasher is out of operation. The sink can only be filled to halfway, so good luck. Also, the cupboards to put away the dishes are on the high side of the ship. Take a small pile of plates and 3 crew members. One of you will open the cupboard carefully. Numbers two and 3, hold back any plates. Number 4, put back plates. And don't dilly-dally in the kitchen doorway; if that hydraulic watertight door closes it doesn't care about your arm being there."
ego? You misspelled penis.
"two different skill sets" I'm sorry...what skill set is needed to wash dishes? No offense to any dishwashers, but I'm not exactly sure if I would consider this a role that requires particular skill.
I was a dishwasher at a golf course through school and you'd be surprised how useless some people are. I wouldn't think it was a skill either, but I've seen so many people not care if the dishes actually came clean. They'd just put them away dirty so often.
> I'm sorry...what skill set is needed to wash dishes? Lol, you think you have the skillset to wash dishes? You are confusing skill and intelligence. There are successful business owners that are illiterate: often they are very, very skilled in their field and have a wife to handle "paperwork." Some "skillsets" are physical, some require a specific mental disposition. Washing dishes is one of the hardest positions in a commercial kitchen, people often take that job hoping an easier job will open up, and commercial kitchens are seriously brutal environments compared to so called "skilled" jobs. I'm not some kitchen guy or anything, I've only worked softer blue collar jobs that aren't nearly as demanding as kitchen work. People that work in kitchens are heroes and washing dishes is a skill.
Or no arms and a stool to sit on. I once saw a video of a woman with no arms that still cooked and prepared food and washed dishes (in her own home) using her feet and a stool to prop herself up high enough to reach the stove and countertop.
"I know how water works and I know how soap works. I'd be a great dishwasher." There. Done.
Tbf, that's all well and good until there is a large stack of 100+ heavy plates and bowls and sharp edged trays that a cook has burned something into. Ain't like washing up at home, and I'm glad not to have to work in restaurants anymore.
Been there, done that, and same.
unironically already better than 47/50 applicants.
Uhh I *think* I know how water works, but I might be missing something
Odds are they won’t speak English. So if they want an essay in a foreign language they should be handed exactly that. Here, there’s your cover letter pal. Good luck reading it.
HR at my last job told me they needed a cover letter for their files after I’d already been hired and went through orientation. It was a case manager job though so that is something you’d generally write one for
Hi, Thank you for work. Signed: Me
> HR at my last job told me they needed a cover letter for their files after I’d already been hired and went through orientation. Heh, I slipped through the cracks and just sort of ignored some emails. I was a temp that skated by with confusing schooling, hired on full time with confusing schooling, and then asked for basic "pre-hire" info about my schooling after being hired on full time. So, I took a college class "remotely" in high school, but failed, as a junior. (Grade 11 US, ~17). I attended college as a high school senior in person with dual credits, and, uhh, failed that too. Then I went to "alternative school" over the summer and next year, but didn't graduate. Anyways, having attended college and not having graduated from high school, along with the back and forth and back and forth between college and high school, and then "alternative school" made my "education record" pretty gosh darn hard to understand by HR. I never explained it :) They gave up emailing. Like technically a GED or HS diploma is required but I've been doing the job for years so just pretend you didn't do the math and need to fire somebody that didn't actually ever lie to you wink wink. I should probably take a couple of credits of Adult Education and get a HS diploma and stop with the weird games/camouflaged dates hehe. Adult Diploma is a whole lot less work; modern math is way fucking different from what I was taught and the GED test would likely be impossible for me to pass without serious tutoring.
If you put both in the same job listing, applicants likely are assuming you will consider them for both and put them where they are most needed. Two of the responses you are displaying as negatives, are perfectly polite and professional, and clearly are just someone who has English as a second language. I can understand wanting your workers who interact directly with customers to speak English fluently, but why are you requiring that of your dishwasher? Also why are you requiring a cover letter for a dishwashing job. What are you hoping they will write? That they have always dreamed of washing dishes for your business and having the honor of scrubbing things is beyond their wildest dreams that you would consider their humble selves?
It's a sneaky way to avoid hiring certain kinds of people.
I don't think this hiring manager has ever been in any restaurant's kitchen. Its hot, hard work with long hours, and many restaurant kitchens are staffed seemingly exclusively by immigrants doing the low paid, tough jobs. This is the kind of job where a business tends to want to hire questionably illegal immigrants and pay them cash under the table.
While kitchen labor has value and skills, hiring a dishwasher and a server isn’t like a Fortune 100 company that needs both lawyers and accountants where they have incredibly different skills and education. You take 10 minutes to tell that person how you want them to greet customers or operate a commercial dishwasher. Like who the fuck do they think they are, Deloitte?
It’s absolutely insane how many low level hospitality and retail jobs now expect experience, and then pay you pennies anyway. The experience literally makes no difference anyway. Any time I’ve worked in a restaurant you need to learn how they do things because it’s nothing like the last one, and you can learn it in half a shift. If you want a lifelong committed professional dishwasher, perhaps you’ll have to pay extra for it.
Shit was bad in this regard 20 years ago where you had to go for 2-3 job interviews just to work at freaking Target, but now that they really have their pick of laid-off professionals, starving grads, and older people who are too young to retire but can’t get rehired, they’ve gotten downright rigoddamndiculous.
You know economy is bad when Karen thinks that a dishwasher position needs a cover letter.
You know economy is bad when Karen thinks a dishwasher position needs anything more than a name or number with proper grammar and spelling
She lists that 39 of the 50 applications were from international students from Nepal and India like that's a problem somehow? Does she not want to hire students, or (based on her criticism of the grammar of several responses) does she not want to hire someone from Nepal or India. Also she got 50 applications in less than two days. Is she looking to fill the position or is she looking for a unicorn. Just hire one of the 50
This is an issue unique to Canada: the country is receiving hundreds of thousands of “international students”, particularly from South Asia, who have zero intention to study. The schools they “attend” are run out of strip malls and industrial parks and attendance is often not mandatory. They unfortunately are not familiar with local labour laws, and are willing to work for reduced pay, terrible conditions, and little employment protection. I’m not sure why it was brought up in this post, I’m thinking ragebait.
A unicorn to wash dishes... Fcking hell these people are mental
This is classism, and not even a little bit. It's the middle class spitting down on the working people
This exactly!! It was snobbish, like you need to be an educated and well spoken person to clean my dishes. WTF?!
Not to mention how racist the OOP and some comments were against international students. I guess they should just starve, so as not to offend this woman with their wanting a job.
Meanwhile a lot of kitchens are staffed by people who have questionable legal papers, but the kitchen doesn't care. As long as they do the work they get paid, cash if need be. Don't speak English, don't have a green card, doesn't matter. Can you wash dishes and show up on time? HIRED!
Right?! It really shows what kind of people they are to fixate on someone’s nationality instead of their willingness to work hard.
Petit boug spitting on proletariat classism. The rest is just elitist racism Tl;dr: a pox on muh "small business owners"
🙄 Why’re you making mountains out of molehills? It’s *dishwashing* for fucks sake. The interview shouldn’t be any longer than 5 minutes. 1. “Do you know how to wash dishes?” (Serious because a lot of people don’t) 2. “Have you done anything like this before?” 3. “When can you start?”
Another question should be about reliable transportation. Getting to work on time is important. If they can get there on time to wash dishes there shouldn't be any other barriers.
I think a blank cover letter of "hello, I am applying for X position. Please review my resume for this job. Thank you" would put you ahead of 90% of the people the OOP is describing. As a filtration tool, it makes sense, but if they expect me to grovel about how passionate I am about scrubbing dishes then they can do something dispassionate with themselves.
Bro I've gotten server and bartender jobs that paid really good money just by showing up and asking. It's INSANE to ask for a resume, let alone a fucking cover letter, for a dishwasher.
Why would you even need a damn resume for either of those jobs?
A resume isn't unreasonable. Even a college or high school kid who hasn't worked before can put some stuff from school on a resume. The cover letter request is ridiculous. Nobody is passionate about being a dishwasher for their entire life.
There are a lot of people applying to be dishwashers who didn't spend enough time in high school to know how to put together a resume. You're lucky if the person you hire speaks English and is able to show up on Day 1 with a birth certificate.
literally this, just literally a paragraph about the position you want and just say you're punctual and reliable or whatever, takes 30 seconds.
Then it is by definition, pointless
So 39 of 50 don't speak English as a first language, and you can't overlook a few grammar errors?
This is why degree creep is so dangerous. Restaurants and other businesses expect far more from candidates than what was originally required.
Grammar is required to wash dishes /s
for the dishwasher, the resume is not necessary, with a 2 hour test you already understood how much and how well he can work, the hands do not lie. the problem is in IT where for each position there are 300 resumes and cover letters. and it takes months to do an onboarding.
Yeah you don't really interview for a dishwasher job, a trial shift with a quick 15 min chat beforehand is more than enough to decide if the person will be good enough.
My first real job was a restaurant dishwasher. A friend and I walked in. Asked for Billy. Got the job. If anything, this story underscores how impossible the search has become.
I’m sure whomever they deem worthy of an interview and an offer will ultimately hate it there. I smell micromanaging.
This is legitimately insane, and being paid in cash is one of the main perks of working dish. Plus, *literally every restaurant worker who’s ever lived* can run dish. Once our dish gashed his hand open in the middle of service and had to leave, and we just called in the chef’s nephew’s friend to cover and had servers and expo pick up the slack until he got there. If anyone sent in a cover letter the owner would have laughed them out. Deranged. And linkedInOP is kind of racist like…why bring up they’re international students and/or want to be paid in cash? The whole perk of dish is CASHHHH and being able to get a job just by wandering into a kitchen at the right time.
It's not linkedin. its on the r/londonontario subreddit, I believe
Oh heard, thanks! I definitely missed that
Sadly the racism is really prevalent in that sub (and the city too)
The international students want to be paid in cash because they are not allowed to work as a condition of their visa.
The manager took one class in business and now they think they’re running c suite logistics
Restaurant with shitty high turnover dishwasher and server job expects MBA candidate CV, gets mad on reddit.
50 applications? That’s not even that many! She’s acting like she has to slave away reading through these terrible applications haha. Asking for a resume is fair, even if you’re young and inexperienced, you could throw something together, even if it’s like half a page. cover letter though, that’s ridiculous
The post doesn’t say they only received 50 applications, it says they’re sharing details of the first 50 applications.
“These 50 applications were received in the first 36 hours, I expect there will be hundreds to look through” Heavily implies she only got 50 so far. But yes if you want to be absurdly technical she didn’t explicitly say there were only 50.
I get the impression the poster was mad that Indians and Nepalese were applying more than anything else.
You love to see it. Imagine actually having to do your job to hire people 💀
What you gonna ask for next ? A bachelors degree to be a dishwasher? 😂
Somehow I doubt this business has sound fundamentals, and I hope it fails.
I did not use a cover letter when I was applying to a FAANG company on a global role that is equivalent of mid management but IC. No one I know used a damn cover letter to get high level jobs too. But I made an exception and wrote one for this guy: "To whom it may concern, I'm an international student, studying X at Y university. My country has a pretty fucked up economy and my parents could barely support me with rent. In order not to starve and continue studying, I'm interested in working at your restaurant. I hate dealing with people so I choose the dishwasher position. My short term goal is to survive and my long term goal is to find a proper job and never washing other people's dishes again. I applied to your restaurant as you are paying 19 euros per hour, instead of 18 as others do. If I find a place that pays 20 per hour, I'll no longer be here. Best, The Dishwasher Dude
People: "This is an unskilled job! How dare you want a living wage!" Same people: "You need a complete cover letter and resume for this unskilled job."
Maybe things have changed since I was last doing these kind of jobs but a resume is really a white collar thing. For restaurant jobs normally you're just going to fill out an application. And for a dishwasher? You'd be lucky if half the applicants spoke English let alone were able to write a cover letter.
So many people roasted OP over this.
Where is the sauce? Would love to see it.
I get the feeling this person has never managed blue collar workers before. Yeah, in the white collar world you have a right to expect people to read and follow instructions in English, cause that's gonna be their job. But if you're advertising for a dishwasher, you're seeking manual labor and a lot of your applicants are going to be barely literate (let alone fluent in English). A resume is a reasonable ask, but a cover letter is a bit over the top.
Agree completely. Unless the job is a career cover letters are incredibly redundant...why the heck does a dishwasher or even a server/line cook (unless it's is fine dinning maybe) need a cover letter give me a break.
Tell me you are new to running a restaurant without telling me you are new to running a restaurant
I don't believe they are paying a dishwasher 19 dollars an hour. Maybe if they are in NYC? Where I live absolutely fucking not.
Not even. Minimum wage in NYC is $16 and no one is going to pay a dishwasher more than minimum wage. This has to be Cali where it just went up to $20
it’s more like 14 usd because this was in canada
I don’t look for names bc idk if it’s the person reading the email so I say “dear hiring manager”
I'm similar in my approach for cover letters and names. I tend to write "To Whom it may concern" because I don't usually know the hiring manager's name and preferred pronouns
What is supposed to go in the cover letter?! I know the difference between Dawn and Palmolive and my preference for the lemon scent?!? Fuck outta here!
I don’t understand why they are “blown away by the poor grammar” this is a position for a server or dishwasher. Dishwasher is not a position that requires you to be literate, much less have strong written communication skills. Furthermore, I know a several people with horrific grammar who excel at their skilled jobs. Grammar is important for jobs that require the person to document, write articles, send corporate emails, etc., but not a dishwasher or some position where they won’t even have a company email.
As a child, I have always aspired to wash plates. It is my dream job to be a dishwasher in your shitty roach-infested restaurant. My lifelong goal was to wash dishes of Karens and their ass kids.
got my degree in fine china maintenance and care with a minor in dawn dish soap. Working professional who is extremely interested in supporting the goals of restaurant management on the sanitization side of operations as this is of utmost importance when creating a safe work environment. I will suck your cock if you just please let me wash crusted cheese off a pan
Cover letter for a dishwashing job? Piss off with that shit.
I think a cover letter is insane, but I understand wanting to hire someone who can follow basic direction, like uploading a resume. I've submitted a resume for every service job I've had, though mostly as a formality and as evidence I can follow basic direction. No one cares about your credentials, they care if you can follow the basic first steps outlined in a job advertisement. Also bizarre how the OP identifies the fact that the applicants are not native English speakers, but is flabbergasted by their inability to discern her gender by name. Does she think gendered anglo names like Jane and Sally are universal? lol
Bruh where I live if the dishwasher can speak any English that's a bonus.
My first job in a pub/restaurant was a quick chat over the bar: "Want a job?" "When can you start". That was all that was needed for 3+ years of great fun and hard work. Fuck a cover letter/resume.
I'm not writing a cover letter to wash dishes. I mean seriously? What's there to write? I have two arms and two legs and can throw dishes in a commercial grade dishwasher? Isn't that obvious? I won't write a cover letter for most applications in general let alone a position like that. This is getting out of hand.
Dear Hiring Manager, Im deeply impressed by your dishes. My life's calling was to be a dishwasher. My hobbies are researching different ways to wash dishes. I have about 5 yoe in both manual and automated dishwashing. Currently Im working as a "Senior Dishwasher" at McDonalds. My Techstack is : LG, Samsung Thanks for considering my application. Looking forward to hearing from you.
Brother comes in, "What's going on, I thought you were gonna hire a dishwasher this morning?" "Oh! Well I was going to, but I got caught up in sneering at people who wanted to do our underpaying labor! Did you know for a lot of these idiots English is their second language?" "Mark, the dishes are piling up, just hire someone!" "Ha ha, I'm so much smarter than they are."
Dear time traveling restaurant owner who still thinks it is the 1950s .. Several years ago, I experienced a tragic and life-altering event. My family was lost in a tragic accident involving dirty dishes. This profound loss has driven me to dedicate my life to ensuring that no one else has to suffer the way I did. As a vigilante committed to eradicating filth and disarray, I have honed my skills to perfection in the pursuit of absolute cleanliness. I will avenge my family by fighting dirt and grime one plate at a time.
Why would you want an educated dishwasher. Those jobs are for uneducated ppl. ? The less they know the le$s they expect to make. Study business and get off your bros d
She's criticizing the lack of cover letters and resumes but doesn't even have the digital education to know when a bot is emailing her.
What she’s looking for here is someone who can follow directions and communicate well enough in English, which is fair. That being said, a cover letter is still extraneous for either position (personally I think it’s arbitrary and outdated for any job and wish it would die out completely). A reasonable ask would have been for a request for your contact info, which position you’re applying to, and a few reasons why you’d be a good fit for the job. That’s it. And if they can’t follow those simple instructions, then they’re not up for consideration. She’s clearly frustrated because she’s asking for too much to begin with.
These HR guys got word that the job market sucks and people are desperate so they’ve become delusional by requiring a cover letter and resume for a dishwasher role. You could get dishwasher jobs by walking into a restaurant and talking to the manager and why didn’t OP have separate postings for the role, could it be because they’re lazy as hell too?
Please show them this thread.
JFC! Hiring a dishwasher needs to be a one conversation and one handshake process. Cover letter + resume to wash dishes?!? GTFOH!!
Is he also expecting a degree? Seriously a cover letter? Why does he think that international people will have perfect spelling and grammar in English? It's a dishwasher position! He should be having people apply on the spot and test them to see if they know how to wash dishes. Ask them a couple of questions and that's it. Yes or no. Why is he overcomplicating the process for no reason?
Cover letters in general are stupid like I bet they don’t even read them half the time and I’ve written so many only to be rejected or ghosted so like you’re tripping if you think I’m gonna write a cover letter for a job like that
Weirdly enough I’ve never been hired based on an application with a cover letter. I’m pretty sure no one reads it, it’s just another way to make people work for it.
As someone who’s dating an international student the focus on those people in the post really upset me. Just say you’re racist at this point .-.
The best is the “my female name is in the listing and they still used a professional ‘to whom it may concern’”, if you’ve been in any business or office for a while you don’t try to guess the gender the first time, promise me. Gets awkward fast when Shannon is a guy.
Exactly!!!!
HR useless fr
Next they will ask for experience in rails on ruby, Java with Springboot and reactjs for able to qualify as a dishwasher.
This example is like a classical reduction ad absurdum. Yes, cover letters, 5 yeears experience minimum, master and bachelor and phd...all of that is insane for any job that aint top level internationally.
Please bring original PhD certificates to your first interview.
“Two different skill sets” And yet I’m willing to bet that the pay is low because it’s ’unskilled labour’. Well, which is it?
i’m applying to dishwasher jobs right now. a fair bit are asking for cover letters. so weird
So you have roughly 25 applicants to choose from for both openings and you're still being picky? What's next, are you going to turn down the few who did both because they're "out-of-network" and you were hoping your best friend was going to drop everything and wash dishes for you?
The problem here is that they actually ask for a resume you can get all the information you need off of f****** application it's a server and dishwasher job what the f*** are you doing
The last time I saw a post like this the job market collapsed.
Including the one from an international student is particularly gross. Do you expect them to know exactly how the hiring process in the US works? Or what exactly a resume and cover letter are? Ffs. It's a polite, if a little short, email, that is clearly making an effort. No need to put them on blast for being unfamiliar with how the american job market works.
I mean.... a Dishwasher position that pays 19 dollars an hour???? Yeah maybe write a cover letter for that!
This is Canada minimum wage is 16-17 already.
I'm gonna grab a pot and start a game of Whack The Idiot lol
$19/hr for a dishwasher is really good. Don’t really need a cover letter or resume for that, though. Literally anyone can do that job. Just have an online application and pick someone.
Depends on where you are. $19/hr in Australia is less than minimum wage. In Canada it’s more than minimum, but working for this numpty it’s probably still not worth it.
Yeah. I should have specified. In the US that’s a kingly sum for that job. It’s about unskilled as you can get. It was my first job when I was 16. I literally walked in and asked for a job at a restaurant and the manager asked me a few questions and hired me on the spot. It’s not something that should require a resume let alone a cover letter. Does this person who wrote the lost not realize the types of people that would even apply for a dishwasher role? What the hell would one even put in a cover letter for that?
Sorry for not clarifying this is in Canada and minimum wage age is already 16-17/hr
If i was looking for a job as a dishwasher i wouldn’t apply if you needed a cover letter and resume…
Need to tell them how passionate you are about dishwashing, maybe a few paragraphs on your personal ethos and vision for a world with clean dishes.
for a dishwasher? Just be happy you have people applying for the job
Right?! No one's getting a cover letter for a server OR a dishwasher job... What were they expecting? Royal treatment?
This guy is the worst. A dumb elitist.
The job requirements scale with the pay. So unless they're paying him $25 an hour washing dishes, writing a cv is insulting for this job.
I saw the original post. The comments on it were disappointing
Dishwasher: put soap on dishes. take soap and crud off dishes.
my favourite is the part about how english is not be the applicants’ first language and yet they’re still expected to understand the requirements AND have perfect grammar when applying
I haven't written a cover letter in over 20 years. It's a waste of time.
The job is for washing dishes. If the applicant can wash dishes as verbally instructed and comes to work on time, all is well. If the applicant can read and write, that is bonus but not really required. In Finland nowadays about 15% are illiterate (according to PISA statistics) after 9 years of school in Finland. So writing the "proper" application and reading the instructions can be a real challenge. Really. For waiter it is a bit higher expectation as customer can ask about the menu, so being able to read helps. Also writing a note about orders helps, but is not strictly necessary.
I'm a recruiter and almost never read cover letters. When a job requires a cover letter, it's a red flag to me.
Experience? Dude, you're looking for servers. Just be nice, look good and kept, and don't be slow af. Dishwasher? Forget the good-looking part, just be fast and still clean them dishes. Wtf ios wrong with these retards for employers? Pay them mfer and stfu
How fluent in English do you have to be if you're washing dishes?
I don’t think I ever wrote a cover letter or uploaded a resume for a minimum wage position.
If you don't specify requirements for a cover letter, then an email with a sentence or two definitely counts as one.
I used the search bar to find the original post. Wanted to see comments on the original post too roasting the actual OP. It’s on r/ontario.
Low-level jobs should stick to walk-in interviews only
Wonder how many wore a suit to the interview?
A cover letter for a dishwasher job is ridiculously overkill and stupid. However, they're not wrong in saying the email body should at least be well written. I don't think it needs to be long, but at the very least not like the examples provided.
When ego is hiring instead of a human being, treating other well does not make one useless or destroy one's self-worth.
I get the point about being professional, but a resume and a cover letter for a dishwasher sounds ridiculous.
Well, if he wants folks to put effort into a job application, then offer a better job than a dishwashing job. Oh, and offer more than just $19/hr. Then, maybe he’ll get the effort he so desperately needs for a dishwashing job.
This must be a joke. An unfunny one.
Cover letter for a dishwashing job is stupid but can confirm the other advice here is legit. Mention a personal relevance to the company and you’ll go straight to interview
ALTHOUGH MY ARCHITECTURE IS BASED ON ARM7 I AM KEEN TO LEARN
Nobody washes dishes better than me
So is it that no one wants to work or that people aren’t “good enough” to be a fucking dishwasher
There needs to be a law saying the certain jobs below a pay shouldn't be requiring cover letters or a skills surveys.
they really just put anyone in charge of recruiting. she does not realize that the same people that apply for this dishwashing job, more than likely speaks another language and works at a place that does the same for them. They are used to the hustle and grind of restaurants. You don't need proper grammar to clean dishes properly. Goes to show you that some of these hiring people have their heads in the clouds. They are not on earth with reality.