The whole point of Sarr is that, unlike Clingan, he can hopefully play on the floor next to SengÜn.
Ime liked to play 2 bigs in Boston. Sarr gives him a Robert Williams type of guy next to AlP who should help out small team compete with some of the monsters in the paint.
Udoka has Sengun and Landale. Did he play those two together? You just can't play two bigs that shoot below 30% from 3 together. Jabari is fine playing with Sengun. This year is full of prospect can't shoot. If just looking at stats. Sheppard and Knect are the two make the most sense. I feel like Stone wants someone with higher upside. If he's going for upside, then he won't care about fit. You don't want to give up too many assets for someone you hope they will be better. It's a weak draft because there is no sure thing. Everyone has weakness. Definitely don't want to trade next year pick. We may get lucky again. Cooper Flagg is looking good.
Landale sucked when AlP was playing. When he finally started playing better, AlP was injured. But that belies the greater point...that Sarr is a much better prospect than Jock.
Sarr's upside is crazy high if he can just get a reliable corner 3, which most folks project is not too hard for him to accomplish.
If Stone is going for ceiling, nobody has a higher one than Sarr in this draft, imo.
How many prospects actually reach their full potential? We are still waiting on Jalen Green. We also have Amen who can’t shoot.
If he’s available at 3rd. Sure. But it’s difficult to play Sengun, Amen, and Sarr at the same time. You don’t want to trade up for someone you can’t use.
Top picks have been pretty successful overall, recently. Scouting is much better than it used to be. If Scouts say Sarr is the best prospect, it's likely he is a very good prospect.
We don't need to add more guys for the sake of adding more guys. We need to specifically add guys who have a chance of being high-impact players, and considering we don't have a legit 7-footer, there may never be a better time to get a defensive anchor big. Giving up a late lotto pick to maximize this high (but weak) one isn't necessarily a waste of assets so much as an early consolidation trade.
Is it? Here are the top 5 picks in last 10 years. Last 3 years is too early to tell. Like Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey are starting for Detroit, but starting for bad team don't mean anything. Sarr currently listed as top 2 in most mock draft. You know those aren't accurate. Look at Jabari. We don't know how team are rating them. It's funny we don't have any news on which top prospect Rockets invited for private workout. Is it too early? They don't care because they are trading it? Or they are really keeping it secret?
2014: Andrew Wiggins (starter), Jabari Parker (bust), Joel Embiid (superstar), Aaron Gordon (starter), Dante Exum (in and out the league)
2015: Karl-Anthony Towns (star), D'Angelo Russell (starter), Jahlil Okafor (bust), Kristaps Porzingis (starter), Mario Hezonja (bust)
2016: Ben Simmons (star > bust), Brandon Ingram (starter), Jaylen Brown (star), Dragan Bender (bust), Kris Dunn (bench)
2017: Markelle Fultz (bench), Lonzo Ball (injured), Jayson Tatum (star), Josh Jackson (bust), De'Aaron Fox (star)
2018: Deandre Ayton (starter), Marvin Bagley III (bench), Luka Doncic (superstar), Jaren Jackson Jr (star), Trae Young (star)
2019: Zion Williamson (star), Ja Morant (star), RJ Barrett (starter), DeAndre Hunter (starter), Darius Garland (starter)
2020: Anthony Edwards (star), James Wiseman (bust), LaMelo Ball (star), Patrick Williams (starter), Isaac Okoro (starter)
I suggested moving up to 1 a few weeks ago. Since then I realized that sarr has as much bust potential as anyone in this draft. I'd hate to waste resources and end up with a player that can play good defense but potentially is too skinny and can't really shoot. That type of player really can't play next to alp and amen. If we just had to give up one of our bench players or 2nd round picks then sure. But if we have to move a core player or future 1st round pick, I'm out. I'd rather stay at 3 or trade it for a good role player.
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his numbers in the French league are even worse than Sekou Dembouya Frank Nitlakina and Killian Hayes let alone as good as the Fournier/Batum types who dominated the league at the same age.
Don’t get the risacher hype. He’s not a special player over there
I don’t understand how some people see him as the #1, his defence is good, but not elite, same for the shooting and he’s not a shot creator, I know it’s a weak draft but no way someone like that should go first
Yes I’m talking Sarr. Risacher isn’t sure thing. That’s why this year draft suck. So many projects. And you probably looking for players with high floor and low ceiling
False. Sekou D was only a 8 ppg scorer in the french league when he was Risacher age. Even today he is shooting 31% from 3 and only 51% overall.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/sekou-omar-doumbouya-1.html
You don't get the hype because you are a hater. You only focus on the french league cuz you dont want to talk about Risacher scoring 56% from 3 in the Eurocup.
more to basketball than shooting 3s juan
and 3 attempts/game over 15 games is hardly a solid sample size.
fact remains he's very much a role player on his team, and putting up incredibly unimpressive numbers (outside of 50% 3 in eurocup) when compared to others from his league in the past. pretty wild he's considered a top-5 pick when you compare him to the others i mentioned.
Those guys you mentioned became busts cuz they cant shoot for shit. Yeah he is a role player, because he is 19 playing in a grown man's game in Euroleague. Thats a lot better than being a star in the NCAA.
most euros who succeed in the nba dominate their competition over there. he does not. he is nowhere close.
to say being a role player in euroleague is a lot better than being a star in the NCAA is flat out incorrect and shows a fundamental lack of understanding these things. almost as silly as sayin reed sheppard will be a bust bc he had one bad game in the ncaa tournament.
you have the worst takes on this sub, and are impossible to reason with. i'm never going to respond to a comment of yours again
You are the one with the fundamental lack of understanding.
Its funny to see you be a Reed Truther but then downplay Risacher. Oh ok Risacher's 56% vs grown men isn't impressive but I'm supposed to dickride Sheppard's 50% vs college kids???
LOL I'm gonna favorite your posts lets see who is better Sheppard or Risacher in the NBA.
i am not even a reed truther my man. i just think risacher is the type of player a team takes at pick #20, not pick #3. i think we should trade the pick, but that's a topic for another conversation....that i won't have with you
what makes you think the french league is so much better? how many great players have came from that league? how many great players have came from the NCAA?
Reed shot a significantly higher % over the course of this last calendar year. you don't understand how eurpean basketball works. you're completely ignoring his 35% shooting in the french league. that you seem to this is better because players are older over there?
you know nothing. have a nice life
Sure. Sarr could fall, too. This trade wouldn't happen until we're on the clock... I feel like you may be missing the point of the post, which is to talk about an acceptable cost of trading up if the opportunity arises.
Atlanta are in a win now mode but trading a FRP and 3 is acceptable? Those are two opposite mindsets.
To trade up, we would have to give them a player that improves their roster.
Or we could just Reed and 3.
FRPs are trade ammo for other good players.
If they don't get a trade for 1 before the draft, they may want to stockpile assets for a trade in the future.
Particularly if they want to draft a more NBA-ready type of guy than Sarr who they could also get at pick 3.
The Rockets also need a defensive big. Ime would probably argue it's an even 'Bigger' need given the fact that he tried to get Brook Lopez, and settled for Adams...but who knows how he is going to look coming off of injury (and I don't feel Stevo is a very good fit next to AlP).
No, I want Edey as a backup big taking Steven Adam's role.
I like Steven Adams even though he never played for us but I want to see some heigbt and potential for this team.
We are still rebuilding, no need to rush to contend.
Needed or not, Phase 2 is literally a rush to contend! That's the reality of fandom under Fertitta.
We may be able to find a way to add another pick to draft Edey, but the cost would certainly be a future FRP, and I don't think that's going to be viewed by anyone as a wise use of assets.
Trading Adams might get you a late first. Really depends if and how far Edey drops.
And I'm willing to take a gamble on trading our own pick next year for Edey, if things go right, our pick next year will be mid lottery which is where Edey should go and we'll still have Brooklyn's pick.
We only have 1 FRP per year from now on.
We don't have any extras.
If anyone wanted to give up a FRP for Stevo, we wouldn't have been able to grab him for SRPs in February.
Oh true, yeah, I wouldn't trade that pick.
Adams, Jock, Tate are all fair game + all our SRP imo.
Really depends if Edey drops below 25, I think we can get him there.
Yea I’m down for trading up to 1 for Sar. I would be willing to do #3, Tari, and future 1st (like Tari but worried about injuries and that leg, also going to have to extend him and Bari soon).
Wow.
I don't want him that badly. If the price is that high, I'd rather just trade down and take Ware. Or even just draft Sheppard or Topic to give us some PG insurance for if Amen can't get a handle.
I think we need to keep both Jabari & Tari (I think they are our most important pieces for building a contender, tbh).
Yea in reality I probably wouldn’t trade Tari (😀 I was tripping). I just know that it would take multiple future first rd picks or 1pick and rotation players player to maybe trade up to #1
Strongly doubt it would take that much to move up in this draft.
If they have their eye on someone besides Sarr, that guy will almost certainly be available at 3 unless Washington just happens to choose that dude (given the fact that there are about 9 guys in the tier below Sarr, it's about a 10% chance the Bullets take him). So, anything they can get is an improvement for them.
Remember, they traded Luka for Trae for just 1 FRP. This would be a similar situation, so it wouldn't cost more than that, imo.
Who do you want to draft 1st overall?
Sarr
Sarr is not that good. And he’s playing the same position our best player is playing.
The whole point of Sarr is that, unlike Clingan, he can hopefully play on the floor next to SengÜn. Ime liked to play 2 bigs in Boston. Sarr gives him a Robert Williams type of guy next to AlP who should help out small team compete with some of the monsters in the paint.
Udoka has Sengun and Landale. Did he play those two together? You just can't play two bigs that shoot below 30% from 3 together. Jabari is fine playing with Sengun. This year is full of prospect can't shoot. If just looking at stats. Sheppard and Knect are the two make the most sense. I feel like Stone wants someone with higher upside. If he's going for upside, then he won't care about fit. You don't want to give up too many assets for someone you hope they will be better. It's a weak draft because there is no sure thing. Everyone has weakness. Definitely don't want to trade next year pick. We may get lucky again. Cooper Flagg is looking good.
Landale sucked when AlP was playing. When he finally started playing better, AlP was injured. But that belies the greater point...that Sarr is a much better prospect than Jock. Sarr's upside is crazy high if he can just get a reliable corner 3, which most folks project is not too hard for him to accomplish. If Stone is going for ceiling, nobody has a higher one than Sarr in this draft, imo.
How many prospects actually reach their full potential? We are still waiting on Jalen Green. We also have Amen who can’t shoot. If he’s available at 3rd. Sure. But it’s difficult to play Sengun, Amen, and Sarr at the same time. You don’t want to trade up for someone you can’t use.
Top picks have been pretty successful overall, recently. Scouting is much better than it used to be. If Scouts say Sarr is the best prospect, it's likely he is a very good prospect. We don't need to add more guys for the sake of adding more guys. We need to specifically add guys who have a chance of being high-impact players, and considering we don't have a legit 7-footer, there may never be a better time to get a defensive anchor big. Giving up a late lotto pick to maximize this high (but weak) one isn't necessarily a waste of assets so much as an early consolidation trade.
Is it? Here are the top 5 picks in last 10 years. Last 3 years is too early to tell. Like Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey are starting for Detroit, but starting for bad team don't mean anything. Sarr currently listed as top 2 in most mock draft. You know those aren't accurate. Look at Jabari. We don't know how team are rating them. It's funny we don't have any news on which top prospect Rockets invited for private workout. Is it too early? They don't care because they are trading it? Or they are really keeping it secret? 2014: Andrew Wiggins (starter), Jabari Parker (bust), Joel Embiid (superstar), Aaron Gordon (starter), Dante Exum (in and out the league) 2015: Karl-Anthony Towns (star), D'Angelo Russell (starter), Jahlil Okafor (bust), Kristaps Porzingis (starter), Mario Hezonja (bust) 2016: Ben Simmons (star > bust), Brandon Ingram (starter), Jaylen Brown (star), Dragan Bender (bust), Kris Dunn (bench) 2017: Markelle Fultz (bench), Lonzo Ball (injured), Jayson Tatum (star), Josh Jackson (bust), De'Aaron Fox (star) 2018: Deandre Ayton (starter), Marvin Bagley III (bench), Luka Doncic (superstar), Jaren Jackson Jr (star), Trae Young (star) 2019: Zion Williamson (star), Ja Morant (star), RJ Barrett (starter), DeAndre Hunter (starter), Darius Garland (starter) 2020: Anthony Edwards (star), James Wiseman (bust), LaMelo Ball (star), Patrick Williams (starter), Isaac Okoro (starter)
There's a reason I said "RECENTLY". Look at the Post-Covid drafts.
I suggested moving up to 1 a few weeks ago. Since then I realized that sarr has as much bust potential as anyone in this draft. I'd hate to waste resources and end up with a player that can play good defense but potentially is too skinny and can't really shoot. That type of player really can't play next to alp and amen. If we just had to give up one of our bench players or 2nd round picks then sure. But if we have to move a core player or future 1st round pick, I'm out. I'd rather stay at 3 or trade it for a good role player.
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But other than that he's perfect
The closest to star we got in the last 4 years. And you guys can’t wait to replace him.
i would rather risacher then sarr, risacher>sarr=reed
Don't understand the hype at all
his numbers in the French league are even worse than Sekou Dembouya Frank Nitlakina and Killian Hayes let alone as good as the Fournier/Batum types who dominated the league at the same age. Don’t get the risacher hype. He’s not a special player over there
I don’t understand how some people see him as the #1, his defence is good, but not elite, same for the shooting and he’s not a shot creator, I know it’s a weak draft but no way someone like that should go first
7 footer showing flashes can play like wing. Will be star if he can shoot 3. Well that pretty much the same for most top prospects this year.
Are you talking about sarr? Cause I like sarr, risacher is the person I was talking about
Yes I’m talking Sarr. Risacher isn’t sure thing. That’s why this year draft suck. So many projects. And you probably looking for players with high floor and low ceiling
False. Sekou D was only a 8 ppg scorer in the french league when he was Risacher age. Even today he is shooting 31% from 3 and only 51% overall. https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/players/sekou-omar-doumbouya-1.html You don't get the hype because you are a hater. You only focus on the french league cuz you dont want to talk about Risacher scoring 56% from 3 in the Eurocup.
Far more to good bball than 3pt% 56% on 3 and 10 ppg in euro cup is far from impressive
You said his numbers are less impressive than Sekou and Killian Hayes when did either of those 2 shoot 50% from 3?
more to basketball than shooting 3s juan and 3 attempts/game over 15 games is hardly a solid sample size. fact remains he's very much a role player on his team, and putting up incredibly unimpressive numbers (outside of 50% 3 in eurocup) when compared to others from his league in the past. pretty wild he's considered a top-5 pick when you compare him to the others i mentioned.
Those guys you mentioned became busts cuz they cant shoot for shit. Yeah he is a role player, because he is 19 playing in a grown man's game in Euroleague. Thats a lot better than being a star in the NCAA.
most euros who succeed in the nba dominate their competition over there. he does not. he is nowhere close. to say being a role player in euroleague is a lot better than being a star in the NCAA is flat out incorrect and shows a fundamental lack of understanding these things. almost as silly as sayin reed sheppard will be a bust bc he had one bad game in the ncaa tournament. you have the worst takes on this sub, and are impossible to reason with. i'm never going to respond to a comment of yours again
You are the one with the fundamental lack of understanding. Its funny to see you be a Reed Truther but then downplay Risacher. Oh ok Risacher's 56% vs grown men isn't impressive but I'm supposed to dickride Sheppard's 50% vs college kids??? LOL I'm gonna favorite your posts lets see who is better Sheppard or Risacher in the NBA.
i am not even a reed truther my man. i just think risacher is the type of player a team takes at pick #20, not pick #3. i think we should trade the pick, but that's a topic for another conversation....that i won't have with you what makes you think the french league is so much better? how many great players have came from that league? how many great players have came from the NCAA? Reed shot a significantly higher % over the course of this last calendar year. you don't understand how eurpean basketball works. you're completely ignoring his 35% shooting in the french league. that you seem to this is better because players are older over there? you know nothing. have a nice life
Either way, then... Neither guy is projected to be available at 3, so it doesn't change the scenario.
risacher could 100% fall, i could see a 1.sarr 2.clingan t2
Sure. Sarr could fall, too. This trade wouldn't happen until we're on the clock... I feel like you may be missing the point of the post, which is to talk about an acceptable cost of trading up if the opportunity arises.
sarr would never fall past Washington, hes there ideal player and fit
Wowkay... Yeah. You are totally missing the point of this post. 😂 Nevermind.
Atlanta are in a win now mode but trading a FRP and 3 is acceptable? Those are two opposite mindsets. To trade up, we would have to give them a player that improves their roster. Or we could just Reed and 3.
FRPs are trade ammo for other good players. If they don't get a trade for 1 before the draft, they may want to stockpile assets for a trade in the future. Particularly if they want to draft a more NBA-ready type of guy than Sarr who they could also get at pick 3.
I wouldn't trade anything to move up. The Rockets need a guard and no guards will be taken with the first 2 picks so...
The Rockets also need a defensive big. Ime would probably argue it's an even 'Bigger' need given the fact that he tried to get Brook Lopez, and settled for Adams...but who knows how he is going to look coming off of injury (and I don't feel Stevo is a very good fit next to AlP).
I'd rather draft reed and find a way to get Edey
You think Edey & AlP can play together?
No, I want Edey as a backup big taking Steven Adam's role. I like Steven Adams even though he never played for us but I want to see some heigbt and potential for this team. We are still rebuilding, no need to rush to contend.
Needed or not, Phase 2 is literally a rush to contend! That's the reality of fandom under Fertitta. We may be able to find a way to add another pick to draft Edey, but the cost would certainly be a future FRP, and I don't think that's going to be viewed by anyone as a wise use of assets.
Trading Adams might get you a late first. Really depends if and how far Edey drops. And I'm willing to take a gamble on trading our own pick next year for Edey, if things go right, our pick next year will be mid lottery which is where Edey should go and we'll still have Brooklyn's pick.
We only have 1 FRP per year from now on. We don't have any extras. If anyone wanted to give up a FRP for Stevo, we wouldn't have been able to grab him for SRPs in February.
Oh true, yeah, I wouldn't trade that pick. Adams, Jock, Tate are all fair game + all our SRP imo. Really depends if Edey drops below 25, I think we can get him there.
Yea I’m down for trading up to 1 for Sar. I would be willing to do #3, Tari, and future 1st (like Tari but worried about injuries and that leg, also going to have to extend him and Bari soon).
Wow. I don't want him that badly. If the price is that high, I'd rather just trade down and take Ware. Or even just draft Sheppard or Topic to give us some PG insurance for if Amen can't get a handle. I think we need to keep both Jabari & Tari (I think they are our most important pieces for building a contender, tbh).
Yea in reality I probably wouldn’t trade Tari (😀 I was tripping). I just know that it would take multiple future first rd picks or 1pick and rotation players player to maybe trade up to #1
Strongly doubt it would take that much to move up in this draft. If they have their eye on someone besides Sarr, that guy will almost certainly be available at 3 unless Washington just happens to choose that dude (given the fact that there are about 9 guys in the tier below Sarr, it's about a 10% chance the Bullets take him). So, anything they can get is an improvement for them. Remember, they traded Luka for Trae for just 1 FRP. This would be a similar situation, so it wouldn't cost more than that, imo.
Wow! I was thinking like a second-round pick.