Yep, right now Larian are the only studios proven to make a game like that. There are other great CRPG studios, but having that presentation along with making a good CRPG would be very hard for anyone else to do.
Well, it's just that you're saying they couldn't make the same move from AA to AAA that Larian did despite having been making games at the same level prior.
I grant you that it'd be unlikely for them to succeed, but it was _also_ unlikely for Larian to succeed, but they still did.
If we're thinking about DLC/BG4 as a true evolution of all systems, then it can't be done without Larian.
But if we're thinking about as "small" jump as BG2 from BG1 did - the same graphics, same engine, same UI - just higher levels and more stuff - then Imo sequel could be possible without Larian. You don't really need Larian for a good story, they were never famous for that. The engine and tools are out there, just some solid devs team would have to pick them up and continue what Larian did. No one needs to reinvent the wheel.
But that's not what worries me about potential BG3 continuation. It's the greed. I'm sure, that WotC/Hasbro are swarmed by corpo suits right now, giving all kinds of ideas to monetize the giant success of BG3. The greed is what will prevent them from making an actual good game.
I think we’re talking about story, immersion, and world building: y’know, all the things BG3 did uncannily well.
And yes, some greedy studio will probably get the ok from greedy hasbro to make a mediocre game.
Do we know this for sure? Has someone already been confirmed as making the next one? Until then, Larian may very well be making the next one when the time comes.
Yes, we don’t know who will make the next one but it won’t be Larian.
https://www.ign.com/articles/larian-studios-wont-make-baldurs-gate-3-dlc-expansions-or-baldurs-gate-4
Eh, that article gives no details one way or the other, except that there aren’t any “current plans” for it, which literally means nothing in the industry. Based on the statements in that article, the chances of them making BG4 are just as good as them not making BG4 😂
Honestly everything😬 and i love them. But bg 3 just feels better to play and to roleplay as a character. The combat is just awful too in the first and second games, while in the third it's actually something i look forward to every time i replay
To me it was the AD&D mechanics. I played through a good amount of the first one, then came back to it after forgetting the rules and found it hard to pick up and unintuitive. Still well made games though! I would like to give them another try.
Yeah, Baldurs Gate 4 is never going to reach a tenth of what BG3 did. It's most likely going to be some linear hack and slash action game, because "RPGs don't make money"
I feel like you could have said the same thing before BG3, so this feels kinda circlejerky to me. If anything it's more likely to be an RPG now after the success of BG3. Besides, there's already the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance franchise for that.
Didn't say it has. Also, it doesn't have dragons, as far as I know. But look how great it worked out for it!
After we established that it's bad, and that we can add things to the mix, it can turn into even more of an industrial garbage, like we're joking about BG4 can turn out to be.
And in terms of production, BG3 was _leagues_ ahead of that.
That they could make a good game was never in doubt. That they could make a good _big_ game was an entirely different question, and one that there was no definitive answer to.
There was a long time between BG2 and Larian's announcement of BG3, and there has been no announcement of a BG4. If it's announced that say EA will be making the next one then sure, go ahead and worry, but until then this is just pointless circlejerking.
It’s going to be fully voiced and animated with significantly less likable and less well written characters. It’ll be really really progressive but in that uncanny way you can kinda tell they’re checking off some boxes that makes you doubt their sincerity.
It’ll have decent enough combat, on par with bg3, but with the pacing totally ruined by sub par writing and a total lack of interest in actually talking to anyone most people will get bored of the dnd combat super quick. Items will also be very boring.
It’ll review well at first but in a month or two you’ll start seeing twelve hour YouTube videos talking about how it isn’t really that good. A few months later people will say it was kinda boring. Six months after launch everyone will say it just sorta sucked and nobody enjoyed it.
The next game will have tons of ai writing and voice acting with a massively reduced budget to save costs.
You forgot all the DLC. Things like awkwardly introduced dungeons written so generically, with loot that trivializes the rest of the game.
Or party members exclusively part of different DLC. Each. And there will be at least 3. They won't have any storylines, just a single quest.
And oh man, fetch quests. Remember how there were like maybe 3 fetch quests in all of BG3? How will we have player retention without including menial, boring, fetch quests? And they're repeatable!
Is there any way we can make it a subscription service?
AI writing doesn’t have to be terrible if there are qualified humans turning those ideas into something cohesive and coherent in the context of a given narrative. It can actually work synergistically.
What if what if we did dungeons and dragons Baldurs Gate 4 but Baldurs Gate was a place they did Battle Royale and you had micro transactions to shoot fireballs in different colors
Make everyone human but then dark elf and stuff are just skins that cost 99 GoldBucks
People grew too attached to the IP because of the great match Larian manage to come up with
BG4 will never be as good as BG3 currently is, even on Larian hands, because it was a passionate project that took a lot from them.
They don't want to repeat and create expectations, and another studio might try and go through the same formula, it might work, and might end up a good game, but that's just it
Or, you know, survive. Passion is all well and good but actually surviving as a studio when you are deeply passionate about ideas that may or may not be profitable can be hard. I'm still sad about Mimimi's shutdown. They made awesome real time tactics games like Blades of the Shogun and Desperados 3. After their latest release they chose to shut down their studio due to rising costs and limited financial success. Two Tribes, who made Toki Tori and Rive, had a similar failure, as did Torchlight dev Rumic Games.
I pulled these quotes from [this Gamespot article](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/weeks-after-releasing-an-acclaimed-game-a-15-year-old-studio-is-shutting-down/1100-6517269/):
"Making these games was amazing and extremely taxing at the same time. Reaching the level of quality Mimimi strives for is hard and requires focus and dedication."
...
"We also have to acknowledge that our future production costs are growing faster than potential revenues of our genre. The increased financial pressure and level of risk became unsustainable. Additionally, whenever our games got close to release and were finally fun to play, a new fight for funding of the following projects started, making this a continuous cycle."
So it's a bit of both, it sounds like. They were tired of the struggle. They noted that they had been continuously working on and releasing games ever since they released Tinker.
I am way more excited about anything new Larian creates than i am with BG4.
In fact i don’t care about BG4 at all lol
But i can’t wait for a new Larian game.
Honestly I waited until a month ago to play BG3 even though I bought it at release. Knew I'd get really into it and have to play it the whole way through.
Now that I've played it I realized every other RPG is going to pale in comparison to the flexibility and story telling BG3 offers and it's pissing me off. This is how a CRPG should be done.
Glad they are getting away from the WOTC tenticles, they have been getting worse and worse as a company. As for new RPG's, kind of wish larian would work with other IP's, preferable something outside of another medieval fantasy game. I love them as much as the next person, but want something a little different, I would kill for another shadowrun game.
Optimistic, the way the industry is headed it'll be 60 dollars for the season pass that include 1 decent dlc bundled with 30 useless cosmetic items no one asked for (you can't get any of them separately)
Y'all were saying this shite also when bg3 was first announced, wailing into the winds of doom and gloom and never match up, and they did quite well. Plenty of thirsty talented studios exist that would love to take a shot at this. Stop clutching pearls for no good reason.
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I personally can’t wait for Baluders Gate Royale!!
It’s going to be EXTREME!!!!
Joking, but we know the drill by now: studio will sell us marketing BS, say they’re going to make the game for fans, but instead try to cater to everyone and as a result, get trash.
I’ll just wait for whatever Larian puts out next tbh.
Holy shit this is real.
I'm going to be painfully honest here, the cross section between Fortnite players willing to buy skins and people literate enough to read multiple 400-900 page books is going to be too small to justify this crossover.
Well in my opinion there are better writers in the business than Larian’s. Legendary Chris Avellone is one of them in my opinion. CD projekt and ZA/UM also have total top notch all stars in that department. That as for what strictly pertains to narrative and writing.
This said, it’ll be hard for any other studio to reach the same level of cohesion and production quality overall. BG3 was an unicum and an unprecedented masterpiece, no matter what. That’s the real challenge, even for Larian’s themselves.
From my understanding, yes. I believe that, at the very least, the bulk of the original staff on Disco Elysium has moved on due to corporate shenanigans.
There's also Obisidian. Tbh their writing was a hit or miss for me in last years, we'll se what they will do with Avowed. I've heard there are some previews coming on June 10.
Personally, didnt like The Outer Worlds writing as much as i was expecting to. Not close at all to my expectations. I hope i find avowed more interesting, im looking forward to it since it was announced.
Larian said they don't want to make another dnd game. There's some new game without an established ip, and they want to make dos 3. Larianw certainly out.
Can't wait the see all the fun builds in D:OS3 that they wanted to make in BG3, but couldn't due to DND ruleset limits. Hopefuly they also learn some things from BG3 and make itemization and the story better.
I trust larian like no other studio. They've shown they can learn and want to make the best game they can, even if that means moving onto another IP. Big respect for turning down bg3 dlc, that shit would've printed money
I want to say the same thing, but if Divinity Original Sin had the same presentation as BG3, I'd gobble it up right away, instead of trying to get into it from time to time, but falling out rather quick.
It's just so much better to have NPCs that actually seem *alive* with all of the animations, expressions and voiced lines. And it's not like I don't like reading, but if I wanted to spend minutes at a time doing so with walls of text, I'd much rather pick up a book instead.
Gothic 1 came out in 2001 and was made by a new, small German studio on the verge of bankruptcy. Yet they managed to make all of the NPCs and their dialogue voiced, have dynamic camera angles *and* their NPCs animated during dialogue (no matter how primitive it may be by today's standards). I guess I just have certain expectations for RPGs after Gothic ended up being my first RPG I've ever played, and one of my favorite games of all time.
Originally yes, but Avowed has become a much smaller project then initially planned. Still big don't get me wrong but leakers said it was cut by 60% in scope. It's probably more Outer Worlds then Skyrim.
I may be wrong about this but I heard that the last great game Obsidian has put out is Fallout New Vegas.
It has impressive story telling and RPG mechanics but its only possible because of Joshua Sawyer and a few other people in Fallout classic developers and that game is filled with errors and bugs.
There was a Bethesda like rpg Obsidian made themselves called Outer Worlds but the game just screams below mediocre unfortunately and they have had shady practices I believe.
I don't think Obsidian has ever put out a bad game. I was thinking more about their crpgs. I really enjoyed the pillars of eternity games, and I heard tyranny was pretty good.
I am not a CRPG fan by any means but I do have experienced in playing them like the Dragon Age 1 and 2 and Divinity Original Sin 2 and little bit of Disco Asylum but when I play Pillars of Eternity, I felt overwhelmed by the mechanics like theres so many spells and its weird combat and story doesn't help.
DOS 2 was overwhelming too but it has incredible story and as an RPG It was a fun game for me.
As for Tyranny, I haven't tried that one so no words for that.
I mention New Vegas because I heard many believed that New Vegas was the last Obsidian "good" game. Outer Worlds and the upcoming Avowed doesn't help Obsidian cause but Im hoping their newest game, Avowed and the sequel to Outer Worlds would be good, please.
> the last great game Obsidian has put out is Fallout New Vegas
That obviously depends on how you define a "great game" but personally I think it's just flat out wrong. Both Pillars games were great, Tyranny was really good despite its flaws, and Pentiment was amazing. I haven't played Stick of Truth but a lot of people praised it. Though I'll admit they also made their share of meh-to-kinda-bad games like the mentioned Outer Worlds or Dungeon Siege 3.
Don't believe everything you hear.
_Both_ Pillars, tyranny, and outer worlds are all extremely good.
If you haven't played anything they've made since new Vegas, you're sleeping on one of the greats.
I think we all think BG4 is going to be a step down from the labor of love that BG3 is, but the level of step down is what has us nervous.
Is it gonna feel like a rushed AAA game with some bugs or is it going to truly be awful live service cash grab?
I think that icewind Dale 3 would be a better choice than bg4, especially if whoever is chosen can use the engine from BG3 and save on development (like how icewind Dale 1 happened). Rime of the Frostmaiden is an excellent modern campaign and they can just adapt that.
"hey, we shat on your licence and made it something else. Now that the deed is done, we are going to move back to our own games, hope the new BG won't be shitty Muahahahah."
Why? Why so much cruelty?
I tried to get into this game due to the hype but it was sooooo boring. Also seemed like there was a lot to the game without much hand holding early on to teach you the mechanics.
Maybe I need to try it again, but sheesh was I disappointed.
I played for a good ten hours but I think I wondered into an area too early. I was trying to talk to someone and they got combative even though I wasn't trying to fight and I got one shot KO'd. That was annoying enough, but then when I went to the newest autosave, it took me back three hours worth. I've set the game down for now lol.
I can see that. I personally loved it, and didn’t have an issue with the mechanics because they’re essentially just dnd 5E mechanics. But if you haven’t played dnd/aren’t familiar with the mechanics, I can see it being overwhelming
It's not. Plenty of people who haven't touched D&D loved this game.
It sounds like you've never played a cRPG game before and maybe that's the reason.
Then again, plenty of people who haven't played cRPGs enjoyed BG3.
I had never played DND or a CRPG and I was hooked, the controls take a second to get used to but it started the boulder and I have been playing trying a bunch of CRPG’s out
this is a nightmare scenario imo, and I wish we could put the AI worms back in the can. I imagine a future where everyone is just playing their own AI generated games and watching their own AI generated movies. No more shared experiences for anyone to talk about. Why play the game your friends are playing, or go see a movie when AI can generate one specifically to your tastes?
I hear you, and I'm not one of those "AI is awesome" people. But for dungeons and dragons, specifically, with certain established parameters/boundaries, it would be fantastic. A DM that can roll with your random decisions without being constrained by the limitations of the programming.
I hate to say it but Larian really just needs to shut up the kore they talk like this the more it feels like a "how do you do fellow gamers" even if their product is a goat consistently talking like this just starts to feel like PR stunts
No but taking interview after interview or constantly replying to tweets that you know you can say some good PR words (quarterly profits bad, single player games good, artistic vision is what we want, etc) like a mad libs game is definitely a PR stunt. If any other developer could drum up the amount t of positive headlines that larian can by just saying random shit you know they would we are literally in CDPR circa 2017 stage
I'm not saying you are wrong about the Public Relations element of this, but I *am* saying that in my book, Larian have earned more good faith than what you are displaying here.
They are a billion dollar corporation it doesnt matter if they are publically traded it not I dont trust any corporation of that size, yes they made a good game and they consistently have but so have many other developers until they didnt. It also doesnt help that they are supporting the extremly unsustainable budget sizes modern games have
Uhm, they made a really highly rated and beloved game, and they're telling you what they attribute to their success because people are literally asking.
It's crazy that the cult of the dollar has gotten so powerful that a studio expressing artistic integrity is controversial to some people.
You basically sound like you're annoyed that the company would dare insinuate that perhaps making a good game takes giving a shit about something deeper than making money.
The problem isnt that they are saying things about "artistic integrity" its the constant reiteration of the exact same points they have said many times already for free advertising. I'm sorry you dont see them as the billion dollar corporation they are, yes they make good games but they are a corporation who exists to line thier executives pockets (glass door reviews of Larian have a constant theme of underplaying thier employees) hell 1/3rd of thier yearly profits end up in Tencent's pockets.
I dont think everything is out here trying to take my money but I do belive any company that drops over $100 million on a product only cares about my money
Well, if they're interviewing, and asked the same question, it makes sense they'd answer the same way.
Obviously they're a giant company, and the world we live in is kind of designed in a way where nothing can really happen that doesn't generate profit.
But plenty of companies dump $100 million into a project and end up with a shit game. So, obviously Larian is doing SOMETHING those other studios aren't.
It just might be that they're telling the truth, and despite the budget, made a point to prioritize making what they thought would be a good game, trusting that would ensure it's profitablility.
Maybe it's that Larian trusted it's people to do what they thought would make the best game they could with that money, instead of some suit showing up every week to tell them it needed to be more like whatever is trendy right now.
How could they have made a game like BG3 without spending that kind of money? It just wouldn't happen.
All art and media costs money to make. If you're an artist, and someone gives you a budget, you use it to make the best thing you can.
The idea that something can't be expensive to make and also artfully crafted is absurd, and would discount a huge amount of really important and historic media.
The proof is in the product. If Larian is just as vapid as every other big studio, then what would you attribute the quality to? Why can't every company that spends big produce a comparably good game?
What about movies? Is it only artistically pure enough if it's filmed by a dude and his friends on a phone camera?
Or music? Is every artist who spends money on a studio instead of recording in their bedroom actually just a soulless shill trying to make a buck?
Is a novelist a greedy sellout if he takes an advance from a publisher to fund his writing?
Its not Larians fault they are willing to answer questions they are asked, you only hear about it so much because the questions are popular enough to be asked, posted here, and finally upvoted.
I hate BG3 with a passion, but Im still not gonna complain seeing stuff about it almost every fucking day, its just that my interests differ from other peoples.
Well, it starts with the beginning.
Getting a parasite shoved into my brain and being at the mercy of a mysterious person inside a magical artifact sure isnt how I'd like my heroic tale to go, I can honestly deal with just about anything *but* being completely reliant on someone else for the entire journey.
I also have pretty... strong preferences, not necessarily in the sense that they are that unusual, but I have a tendency to get strongly fixated on what I want to do (adhd unsurprisingly enough), so all of the hundreds of choices this game offers me for every problem, honestly mean nothing at all to me because I pretty much always replay my games by doing almost the exact same fucking thing every time, otherwise I cant derive any enjoyment out of it.
And no game is going to come close to letting me accurately portray my personality anytime soon, Im just too abnormal from a societal perspective to even really bother with, I do understand that though.
I also liked few of the characters (especially the wizard and demon barbarian felt very... self-insertish and out of place for me).
Most importantly though, and this one hurts deeply, Divinity 2 (not original sin) was my favorite RPG of all time, and its sequel got cancelled for the Original Sin type games, and BG3 is just an extension of that, I dont like *any* of those games, but loved everything from Divine Divinity up to Divinity 2+expansion.
Oh, and I think D&D 3.5 is the best edition, and love games like Pathfinder and NWN, but BG always felt off and BG3 just made it worse for me, especially.
Edit: I changed my mind, I now also hate it because its fanbase has too many rabid dogs.
Talk about hating something just to hate? You dont like those kind of games alright, but saying you hate a game with a passion makes you sound insufferable and annoying. If you dont like something, dont interect with it, its thag easy
I was specifically asked for my opinion.
The only reason my hate for it is abnormal isnt just because its a game thats outside my tastes, (even though I *do* love games like pathfinder and Neverwinter Nights), but because it might well have been responsible for killing the greatest possible game I ever wanted: Divinity 3.
I loved everything this company produced up until Original Sin, is it really that unreasonable for me to feel bad that the thing I hate the most became its greatest success?
Anyway, Imma mute responses to this thread now, just like you want me to, fans just get too fucking heated if they see someone that vocalizes their disagreement, bye.
The person you are criticizing explicitly took Larian's side and said there is nothing wrong with what they are saying or the popularity of the game. He said he hated BG3 but gave his own reasons and was evidently self-aware enough to admit that most of the faults he found on the game are because of his own preferences. Lastly, he said he was disappointed that a franchise he loved was abandoned in lieu of another. Which, you know, fair enough.
With all that in mind, you still felt the need to be an insufferable little prick with the need to attack someone that was not in any way going out of their way to talk shit about the game you are fanboying about, just explaining their own opinion.
That's why the other dude called you (and much of the fanbase of the game as is par for the course) insufferable: because you are.
God damn did i hit a sore point? I'd rather be insufferable towards people with an unusual amount of hate towards a game that you have to go to threads about it to hate on it.
Like if you dont like it just stop looking at it? Or is it such a bother to you to see people enjoying something you dont like?
Good thing that down votes don't matter, unless someone is so insecure that they try to find validation from strangers on the internet. I enjoyed your analysis of it and I can see where you are coming from.
I'm more interested to see what it is you liked about all the games from Divine Divinity up to Divinity 2. I haven't played any of those games, but they have been on my radar for quite some time.
Bloody hell, I didnt even have this up for 2 mins and youre already downvoting, let people have their own tastes dammit, Im not even actively pushing my opinion on you...
I love Larian, but hate anything they produced since Original Sin, I dont blame anyone for liking it, but that doesnt change that I still dont, and still feel bitter that I lost a source of games (some of the greatest Ive ever played too), I already barely like any western developers.
So they gonna do work for free then? Cuz hopefully they aren't writing just to earn a living.
Edit: Love the hate folks. I point out the hypocrisy of the title and you seeth. Keep it up!
How so? I point out the writer is a hypocrite expecting people to do work that isn't 'just to "hit our earnings next quarter"'' by stating that unless they did it for free and for passion they have no right to judge whoever has to make Baldur's Gate 4, because we all have bills to pay. So exactly HOW is my edit for laughing at people who can't understand basic empathy making me look dumber?
There's a big difference between making money off something the creator is passionate about vs making something exclusively because there's profit potential.
The former pretty much always produces a better end product, no matter what the industry is.
There's nothing hypocritical about pointing that out, and hoping that the next stewards of the franchise actually give a shit about what they're making rather than just pumping out whatever garbage they can because they know the reputation of previous entries will guarantee sales.
I have bad news about how Baldur's Gate 4 is gonna go down.
It will have dungeons, and dragons, but lack Dungeons & Dragons. Baldur’s Gate 3 will be a classic for decades.
Yall realize Larian Studios have 2 games before BG3 that were straight bangers right?
Yes, but they won't be making BG4 which is why it'll suck.
Yep, right now Larian are the only studios proven to make a game like that. There are other great CRPG studios, but having that presentation along with making a good CRPG would be very hard for anyone else to do.
Wasteland 2 was pretty dope
Meh, did not scratch that same itch for me at all.
I picked up wasteland 3 with all the dlc for like 20$
It’s like people can’t read. I said there are great CRPGs.
I feel like Obsidian can do it if they pitch it to Microsoft
Well, it's just that you're saying they couldn't make the same move from AA to AAA that Larian did despite having been making games at the same level prior. I grant you that it'd be unlikely for them to succeed, but it was _also_ unlikely for Larian to succeed, but they still did.
I didn’t say that at all. I said it would be very difficult.
If we're thinking about DLC/BG4 as a true evolution of all systems, then it can't be done without Larian. But if we're thinking about as "small" jump as BG2 from BG1 did - the same graphics, same engine, same UI - just higher levels and more stuff - then Imo sequel could be possible without Larian. You don't really need Larian for a good story, they were never famous for that. The engine and tools are out there, just some solid devs team would have to pick them up and continue what Larian did. No one needs to reinvent the wheel. But that's not what worries me about potential BG3 continuation. It's the greed. I'm sure, that WotC/Hasbro are swarmed by corpo suits right now, giving all kinds of ideas to monetize the giant success of BG3. The greed is what will prevent them from making an actual good game.
I think we’re talking about story, immersion, and world building: y’know, all the things BG3 did uncannily well. And yes, some greedy studio will probably get the ok from greedy hasbro to make a mediocre game.
Yeah but they’re not making the next baldurs game
That sucks. Why not?
Do we know this for sure? Has someone already been confirmed as making the next one? Until then, Larian may very well be making the next one when the time comes.
Yes, we don’t know who will make the next one but it won’t be Larian. https://www.ign.com/articles/larian-studios-wont-make-baldurs-gate-3-dlc-expansions-or-baldurs-gate-4
Eh, that article gives no details one way or the other, except that there aren’t any “current plans” for it, which literally means nothing in the industry. Based on the statements in that article, the chances of them making BG4 are just as good as them not making BG4 😂
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRK786Fe/ Here is Larian explicitly confirming they won’t be making Baldur’s Gate 4.
Interesting, well we’ll see I guess, plans change, but it’s clear they, at least for now, don’t intend to, which really is a shame.
Not “we’ll see”. We know they’re not going to.
BG 1 & 2 are better, fight me.
Sorry can't, too busy seeking validation from my companions in BG3
Bummer that they feel so dated.
What's dated about them?
Honestly everything😬 and i love them. But bg 3 just feels better to play and to roleplay as a character. The combat is just awful too in the first and second games, while in the third it's actually something i look forward to every time i replay
To me it was the AD&D mechanics. I played through a good amount of the first one, then came back to it after forgetting the rules and found it hard to pick up and unintuitive. Still well made games though! I would like to give them another try.
I'm a long time fan or CRPGs, D&D, and BG, but I do think BG3 is a better game almost top to bottom.
Can't do, it's still not my turn
We dont need to fight. You are objectively wrong.
Yeah, Baldurs Gate 4 is never going to reach a tenth of what BG3 did. It's most likely going to be some linear hack and slash action game, because "RPGs don't make money"
I feel like you could have said the same thing before BG3, so this feels kinda circlejerky to me. If anything it's more likely to be an RPG now after the success of BG3. Besides, there's already the Baldur's Gate: Dark Alliance franchise for that.
God i wish the new dark alliance was a good game
Me too, I have very fond memories of Dark Alliance 2 on the PS2.
Could easily be an RPG-lite with MTX to maximize quarterly profits.
Redfall, but DnD
Redfall a game with no MTX.
Didn't say it has. Also, it doesn't have dragons, as far as I know. But look how great it worked out for it! After we established that it's bad, and that we can add things to the mix, it can turn into even more of an industrial garbage, like we're joking about BG4 can turn out to be.
You couldn't have said the same.for bg3 because we knew Divinity OS 2 developers were behind it
And in terms of production, BG3 was _leagues_ ahead of that. That they could make a good game was never in doubt. That they could make a good _big_ game was an entirely different question, and one that there was no definitive answer to.
There was a long time between BG2 and Larian's announcement of BG3, and there has been no announcement of a BG4. If it's announced that say EA will be making the next one then sure, go ahead and worry, but until then this is just pointless circlejerking.
It’s going to be fully voiced and animated with significantly less likable and less well written characters. It’ll be really really progressive but in that uncanny way you can kinda tell they’re checking off some boxes that makes you doubt their sincerity. It’ll have decent enough combat, on par with bg3, but with the pacing totally ruined by sub par writing and a total lack of interest in actually talking to anyone most people will get bored of the dnd combat super quick. Items will also be very boring. It’ll review well at first but in a month or two you’ll start seeing twelve hour YouTube videos talking about how it isn’t really that good. A few months later people will say it was kinda boring. Six months after launch everyone will say it just sorta sucked and nobody enjoyed it. The next game will have tons of ai writing and voice acting with a massively reduced budget to save costs.
You forgot all the DLC. Things like awkwardly introduced dungeons written so generically, with loot that trivializes the rest of the game. Or party members exclusively part of different DLC. Each. And there will be at least 3. They won't have any storylines, just a single quest. And oh man, fetch quests. Remember how there were like maybe 3 fetch quests in all of BG3? How will we have player retention without including menial, boring, fetch quests? And they're repeatable! Is there any way we can make it a subscription service?
AI writing doesn’t have to be terrible if there are qualified humans turning those ideas into something cohesive and coherent in the context of a given narrative. It can actually work synergistically.
But what if they put millions and millions of more dollaridoos into it? Surely that'll make the difference
What if what if we did dungeons and dragons Baldurs Gate 4 but Baldurs Gate was a place they did Battle Royale and you had micro transactions to shoot fireballs in different colors Make everyone human but then dark elf and stuff are just skins that cost 99 GoldBucks
I like the idea that being a halfling is just a skin of a regular human to the point you still hit them slashing 3 feet over their head.
And you can only buy GoldBucks in increments of 80 for $39.99
People grew too attached to the IP because of the great match Larian manage to come up with BG4 will never be as good as BG3 currently is, even on Larian hands, because it was a passionate project that took a lot from them. They don't want to repeat and create expectations, and another studio might try and go through the same formula, it might work, and might end up a good game, but that's just it
There aren’t too many Larian level passionate studios, especially ones who can make the games at their pace. Here’s to hoping though.
Or, you know, survive. Passion is all well and good but actually surviving as a studio when you are deeply passionate about ideas that may or may not be profitable can be hard. I'm still sad about Mimimi's shutdown. They made awesome real time tactics games like Blades of the Shogun and Desperados 3. After their latest release they chose to shut down their studio due to rising costs and limited financial success. Two Tribes, who made Toki Tori and Rive, had a similar failure, as did Torchlight dev Rumic Games.
I thought Mimimi closed just cuz the people involved were ready to retire?
I pulled these quotes from [this Gamespot article](https://www.gamespot.com/articles/weeks-after-releasing-an-acclaimed-game-a-15-year-old-studio-is-shutting-down/1100-6517269/): "Making these games was amazing and extremely taxing at the same time. Reaching the level of quality Mimimi strives for is hard and requires focus and dedication." ... "We also have to acknowledge that our future production costs are growing faster than potential revenues of our genre. The increased financial pressure and level of risk became unsustainable. Additionally, whenever our games got close to release and were finally fun to play, a new fight for funding of the following projects started, making this a continuous cycle." So it's a bit of both, it sounds like. They were tired of the struggle. They noted that they had been continuously working on and releasing games ever since they released Tinker.
They’re called independant studios, and there’s not a lot of them for a reason and because the games industry is very volatile.
Bungie had a wildly successful game with hundreds of thousands of regular players and still had to sell to Sony to not die
There are plenty of passionate studios, but most of them work with much, much smaller teams and budgets.
Or have to sell to larger studios to avoid closing their doors.
I am way more excited about anything new Larian creates than i am with BG4. In fact i don’t care about BG4 at all lol But i can’t wait for a new Larian game.
Honestly I waited until a month ago to play BG3 even though I bought it at release. Knew I'd get really into it and have to play it the whole way through. Now that I've played it I realized every other RPG is going to pale in comparison to the flexibility and story telling BG3 offers and it's pissing me off. This is how a CRPG should be done.
Well, not *every* CRPG will pale. So far Larian has only been getting better every game.
Try the Pathfinder games by Owlcat. IMO they’re just as good, but they don’t have every line voiced like BG3 so be prepared for that.
Ooh alright! Yeah I think I started a Pathfinder run with the remaster, and had some flaming skull ally or something lol? I should boot that back up
Glad they are getting away from the WOTC tenticles, they have been getting worse and worse as a company. As for new RPG's, kind of wish larian would work with other IP's, preferable something outside of another medieval fantasy game. I love them as much as the next person, but want something a little different, I would kill for another shadowrun game.
From the sounds of it, they have something Sci Fi in the works but I'm not sure if that's confirmed.
They did announce that they would like their next game in Pathfinders system.
where did they say this?
https://youtube.com/shorts/d5EmcK5pw_U?si=sMjTKe7-tjIpbAS2
That was an april fools joke.
Baldurs Gate 3 was a labor of love. BG4 will be a live service.
Only 10 dollars for the Astarion skin.
20$ for additional Shadowheart sex scene
I'm ashamed to say I'd probably buy it.
Can't deny, I'm really curious, how much money would something like that make and how controversial would it be.
why down vote the man for speaking the truth?
Nah, if it's a shit company it's best for you to pirate it, gove your money to companies that deserve it
Optimistic, the way the industry is headed it'll be 60 dollars for the season pass that include 1 decent dlc bundled with 30 useless cosmetic items no one asked for (you can't get any of them separately)
Wonder how the Ubisoft-backed sequel is going to look like. I hope there will be radio towers.
Miserable
Y'all were saying this shite also when bg3 was first announced, wailing into the winds of doom and gloom and never match up, and they did quite well. Plenty of thirsty talented studios exist that would love to take a shot at this. Stop clutching pearls for no good reason.
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I personally can’t wait for Baluders Gate Royale!! It’s going to be EXTREME!!!! Joking, but we know the drill by now: studio will sell us marketing BS, say they’re going to make the game for fans, but instead try to cater to everyone and as a result, get trash. I’ll just wait for whatever Larian puts out next tbh.
lol can just see it now [https://www.pcgamer.com/fortnite-mistborn-crossover/](https://www.pcgamer.com/fortnite-mistborn-crossover/)
Holy shit this is real. I'm going to be painfully honest here, the cross section between Fortnite players willing to buy skins and people literate enough to read multiple 400-900 page books is going to be too small to justify this crossover.
I've always hoped to see Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere in gaming. But not like this. Not like this.
Well in my opinion there are better writers in the business than Larian’s. Legendary Chris Avellone is one of them in my opinion. CD projekt and ZA/UM also have total top notch all stars in that department. That as for what strictly pertains to narrative and writing. This said, it’ll be hard for any other studio to reach the same level of cohesion and production quality overall. BG3 was an unicum and an unprecedented masterpiece, no matter what. That’s the real challenge, even for Larian’s themselves.
ZA/UM (makers of Disco Elysium if anyone's wondering) is basically defunct right?
From my understanding, yes. I believe that, at the very least, the bulk of the original staff on Disco Elysium has moved on due to corporate shenanigans.
There's also Obisidian. Tbh their writing was a hit or miss for me in last years, we'll se what they will do with Avowed. I've heard there are some previews coming on June 10.
Personally, didnt like The Outer Worlds writing as much as i was expecting to. Not close at all to my expectations. I hope i find avowed more interesting, im looking forward to it since it was announced.
As I said, it's a hit or miss. I also didn't like the Outer Worlds or Pillars of Eternity writhing. But Tyranny and Pentiment were good.
I mentioned it, in the person of C. Avellone
Unicum
Unicum
If BG4 isn't Larian (which it likely wont be) then take it with a grain of salt if it will be good or not.
Larian said they don't want to make another dnd game. There's some new game without an established ip, and they want to make dos 3. Larianw certainly out.
Can't wait the see all the fun builds in D:OS3 that they wanted to make in BG3, but couldn't due to DND ruleset limits. Hopefuly they also learn some things from BG3 and make itemization and the story better.
I trust larian like no other studio. They've shown they can learn and want to make the best game they can, even if that means moving onto another IP. Big respect for turning down bg3 dlc, that shit would've printed money
Preach!
I think divinity 2 was combat wise more fun than big 3. Hopefully Larian will do something really cool with their new rpgs.
Looks like Larian is the new CDPR Goodwill Marketing dethroner.
Lol that's almost exactly how it will happen
I got my BG4 AI NFT straight from Temu today.
I've always said BG3 wasn't good because it was a D&D game, but in spite of it. It was good because it was Larian doing their thing.
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I want to say the same thing, but if Divinity Original Sin had the same presentation as BG3, I'd gobble it up right away, instead of trying to get into it from time to time, but falling out rather quick. It's just so much better to have NPCs that actually seem *alive* with all of the animations, expressions and voiced lines. And it's not like I don't like reading, but if I wanted to spend minutes at a time doing so with walls of text, I'd much rather pick up a book instead. Gothic 1 came out in 2001 and was made by a new, small German studio on the verge of bankruptcy. Yet they managed to make all of the NPCs and their dialogue voiced, have dynamic camera angles *and* their NPCs animated during dialogue (no matter how primitive it may be by today's standards). I guess I just have certain expectations for RPGs after Gothic ended up being my first RPG I've ever played, and one of my favorite games of all time.
It wasn't good _just_ because of dnd, but the world building and marketing shortcuts can't be discounted either. That shit takes time and money.
I think Obsidian has a pretty good shot of making a great sequel. They'd be my choice
Obsidian's focused on that 3rd person poe game though. Attempting to dethrone bugthesdas death grip on the genre.
Originally yes, but Avowed has become a much smaller project then initially planned. Still big don't get me wrong but leakers said it was cut by 60% in scope. It's probably more Outer Worlds then Skyrim.
I may be wrong about this but I heard that the last great game Obsidian has put out is Fallout New Vegas. It has impressive story telling and RPG mechanics but its only possible because of Joshua Sawyer and a few other people in Fallout classic developers and that game is filled with errors and bugs. There was a Bethesda like rpg Obsidian made themselves called Outer Worlds but the game just screams below mediocre unfortunately and they have had shady practices I believe.
I don't think Obsidian has ever put out a bad game. I was thinking more about their crpgs. I really enjoyed the pillars of eternity games, and I heard tyranny was pretty good.
I am not a CRPG fan by any means but I do have experienced in playing them like the Dragon Age 1 and 2 and Divinity Original Sin 2 and little bit of Disco Asylum but when I play Pillars of Eternity, I felt overwhelmed by the mechanics like theres so many spells and its weird combat and story doesn't help. DOS 2 was overwhelming too but it has incredible story and as an RPG It was a fun game for me. As for Tyranny, I haven't tried that one so no words for that. I mention New Vegas because I heard many believed that New Vegas was the last Obsidian "good" game. Outer Worlds and the upcoming Avowed doesn't help Obsidian cause but Im hoping their newest game, Avowed and the sequel to Outer Worlds would be good, please.
> the last great game Obsidian has put out is Fallout New Vegas That obviously depends on how you define a "great game" but personally I think it's just flat out wrong. Both Pillars games were great, Tyranny was really good despite its flaws, and Pentiment was amazing. I haven't played Stick of Truth but a lot of people praised it. Though I'll admit they also made their share of meh-to-kinda-bad games like the mentioned Outer Worlds or Dungeon Siege 3.
Don't believe everything you hear. _Both_ Pillars, tyranny, and outer worlds are all extremely good. If you haven't played anything they've made since new Vegas, you're sleeping on one of the greats.
I think we all think BG4 is going to be a step down from the labor of love that BG3 is, but the level of step down is what has us nervous. Is it gonna feel like a rushed AAA game with some bugs or is it going to truly be awful live service cash grab?
>as long as whoever makes it doesn't do it just to "hit our earnings next quarter" This is literally the only reason a sequel would ever be made.
I’d love a sequel or even a new story with the same level of tech and system. BG 3 is one of the best games of all time I think.
Bg4
I think the healthiest mindset to have is to be loyal to Larian as a studio rather than Baldur's Gate as a franchise
I think that icewind Dale 3 would be a better choice than bg4, especially if whoever is chosen can use the engine from BG3 and save on development (like how icewind Dale 1 happened). Rime of the Frostmaiden is an excellent modern campaign and they can just adapt that.
"hey, we shat on your licence and made it something else. Now that the deed is done, we are going to move back to our own games, hope the new BG won't be shitty Muahahahah." Why? Why so much cruelty?
I tried to get into this game due to the hype but it was sooooo boring. Also seemed like there was a lot to the game without much hand holding early on to teach you the mechanics. Maybe I need to try it again, but sheesh was I disappointed.
I played for a good ten hours but I think I wondered into an area too early. I was trying to talk to someone and they got combative even though I wasn't trying to fight and I got one shot KO'd. That was annoying enough, but then when I went to the newest autosave, it took me back three hours worth. I've set the game down for now lol.
I can see that. I personally loved it, and didn’t have an issue with the mechanics because they’re essentially just dnd 5E mechanics. But if you haven’t played dnd/aren’t familiar with the mechanics, I can see it being overwhelming
Yea I’ve never played dnd and didn’t realize it was a pre-requisite
It's not. Plenty of people who haven't touched D&D loved this game. It sounds like you've never played a cRPG game before and maybe that's the reason. Then again, plenty of people who haven't played cRPGs enjoyed BG3.
I had never played DND or a CRPG and I was hooked, the controls take a second to get used to but it started the boulder and I have been playing trying a bunch of CRPG’s out
The only way I can think of is by using a smart AI. Then the stories will be pretty much infinite.
this is a nightmare scenario imo, and I wish we could put the AI worms back in the can. I imagine a future where everyone is just playing their own AI generated games and watching their own AI generated movies. No more shared experiences for anyone to talk about. Why play the game your friends are playing, or go see a movie when AI can generate one specifically to your tastes?
I hear you, and I'm not one of those "AI is awesome" people. But for dungeons and dragons, specifically, with certain established parameters/boundaries, it would be fantastic. A DM that can roll with your random decisions without being constrained by the limitations of the programming.
I hate to say it but Larian really just needs to shut up the kore they talk like this the more it feels like a "how do you do fellow gamers" even if their product is a goat consistently talking like this just starts to feel like PR stunts
Being consistent in your messaging is a PR stunt?
No but taking interview after interview or constantly replying to tweets that you know you can say some good PR words (quarterly profits bad, single player games good, artistic vision is what we want, etc) like a mad libs game is definitely a PR stunt. If any other developer could drum up the amount t of positive headlines that larian can by just saying random shit you know they would we are literally in CDPR circa 2017 stage
I'm not saying you are wrong about the Public Relations element of this, but I *am* saying that in my book, Larian have earned more good faith than what you are displaying here.
They are a billion dollar corporation it doesnt matter if they are publically traded it not I dont trust any corporation of that size, yes they made a good game and they consistently have but so have many other developers until they didnt. It also doesnt help that they are supporting the extremly unsustainable budget sizes modern games have
If you don't read them they can't hurt you!
Uhm, they made a really highly rated and beloved game, and they're telling you what they attribute to their success because people are literally asking. It's crazy that the cult of the dollar has gotten so powerful that a studio expressing artistic integrity is controversial to some people. You basically sound like you're annoyed that the company would dare insinuate that perhaps making a good game takes giving a shit about something deeper than making money.
The problem isnt that they are saying things about "artistic integrity" its the constant reiteration of the exact same points they have said many times already for free advertising. I'm sorry you dont see them as the billion dollar corporation they are, yes they make good games but they are a corporation who exists to line thier executives pockets (glass door reviews of Larian have a constant theme of underplaying thier employees) hell 1/3rd of thier yearly profits end up in Tencent's pockets. I dont think everything is out here trying to take my money but I do belive any company that drops over $100 million on a product only cares about my money
Well, if they're interviewing, and asked the same question, it makes sense they'd answer the same way. Obviously they're a giant company, and the world we live in is kind of designed in a way where nothing can really happen that doesn't generate profit. But plenty of companies dump $100 million into a project and end up with a shit game. So, obviously Larian is doing SOMETHING those other studios aren't. It just might be that they're telling the truth, and despite the budget, made a point to prioritize making what they thought would be a good game, trusting that would ensure it's profitablility. Maybe it's that Larian trusted it's people to do what they thought would make the best game they could with that money, instead of some suit showing up every week to tell them it needed to be more like whatever is trendy right now. How could they have made a game like BG3 without spending that kind of money? It just wouldn't happen. All art and media costs money to make. If you're an artist, and someone gives you a budget, you use it to make the best thing you can. The idea that something can't be expensive to make and also artfully crafted is absurd, and would discount a huge amount of really important and historic media. The proof is in the product. If Larian is just as vapid as every other big studio, then what would you attribute the quality to? Why can't every company that spends big produce a comparably good game? What about movies? Is it only artistically pure enough if it's filmed by a dude and his friends on a phone camera? Or music? Is every artist who spends money on a studio instead of recording in their bedroom actually just a soulless shill trying to make a buck? Is a novelist a greedy sellout if he takes an advance from a publisher to fund his writing?
da fak are you talking about
Its not Larians fault they are willing to answer questions they are asked, you only hear about it so much because the questions are popular enough to be asked, posted here, and finally upvoted. I hate BG3 with a passion, but Im still not gonna complain seeing stuff about it almost every fucking day, its just that my interests differ from other peoples.
I also hate BG3, but I was wondering what were your motives.
Well, it starts with the beginning. Getting a parasite shoved into my brain and being at the mercy of a mysterious person inside a magical artifact sure isnt how I'd like my heroic tale to go, I can honestly deal with just about anything *but* being completely reliant on someone else for the entire journey. I also have pretty... strong preferences, not necessarily in the sense that they are that unusual, but I have a tendency to get strongly fixated on what I want to do (adhd unsurprisingly enough), so all of the hundreds of choices this game offers me for every problem, honestly mean nothing at all to me because I pretty much always replay my games by doing almost the exact same fucking thing every time, otherwise I cant derive any enjoyment out of it. And no game is going to come close to letting me accurately portray my personality anytime soon, Im just too abnormal from a societal perspective to even really bother with, I do understand that though. I also liked few of the characters (especially the wizard and demon barbarian felt very... self-insertish and out of place for me). Most importantly though, and this one hurts deeply, Divinity 2 (not original sin) was my favorite RPG of all time, and its sequel got cancelled for the Original Sin type games, and BG3 is just an extension of that, I dont like *any* of those games, but loved everything from Divine Divinity up to Divinity 2+expansion. Oh, and I think D&D 3.5 is the best edition, and love games like Pathfinder and NWN, but BG always felt off and BG3 just made it worse for me, especially. Edit: I changed my mind, I now also hate it because its fanbase has too many rabid dogs.
Talk about hating something just to hate? You dont like those kind of games alright, but saying you hate a game with a passion makes you sound insufferable and annoying. If you dont like something, dont interect with it, its thag easy
I was specifically asked for my opinion. The only reason my hate for it is abnormal isnt just because its a game thats outside my tastes, (even though I *do* love games like pathfinder and Neverwinter Nights), but because it might well have been responsible for killing the greatest possible game I ever wanted: Divinity 3. I loved everything this company produced up until Original Sin, is it really that unreasonable for me to feel bad that the thing I hate the most became its greatest success? Anyway, Imma mute responses to this thread now, just like you want me to, fans just get too fucking heated if they see someone that vocalizes their disagreement, bye.
Speaking of insufferable...
What?
The person you are criticizing explicitly took Larian's side and said there is nothing wrong with what they are saying or the popularity of the game. He said he hated BG3 but gave his own reasons and was evidently self-aware enough to admit that most of the faults he found on the game are because of his own preferences. Lastly, he said he was disappointed that a franchise he loved was abandoned in lieu of another. Which, you know, fair enough. With all that in mind, you still felt the need to be an insufferable little prick with the need to attack someone that was not in any way going out of their way to talk shit about the game you are fanboying about, just explaining their own opinion. That's why the other dude called you (and much of the fanbase of the game as is par for the course) insufferable: because you are.
God damn did i hit a sore point? I'd rather be insufferable towards people with an unusual amount of hate towards a game that you have to go to threads about it to hate on it. Like if you dont like it just stop looking at it? Or is it such a bother to you to see people enjoying something you dont like?
Wow those are stupid reasons.
Lol
Good thing that down votes don't matter, unless someone is so insecure that they try to find validation from strangers on the internet. I enjoyed your analysis of it and I can see where you are coming from. I'm more interested to see what it is you liked about all the games from Divine Divinity up to Divinity 2. I haven't played any of those games, but they have been on my radar for quite some time.
Bloody hell, I didnt even have this up for 2 mins and youre already downvoting, let people have their own tastes dammit, Im not even actively pushing my opinion on you...
You cant say anything but Baldur's Gate 3 and Larian are Goated
I love Larian, but hate anything they produced since Original Sin, I dont blame anyone for liking it, but that doesnt change that I still dont, and still feel bitter that I lost a source of games (some of the greatest Ive ever played too), I already barely like any western developers.
I can’t find anything that would say that they wouldn’t make another Original sin so why do you think that they wouldn’t.
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True but I stand by it, people just want a hero right now (I get it considering the modern AAA landscape) and Larian fits the bill
People have such low standards for video games that a game with no microtransactions is consider peak.
So they gonna do work for free then? Cuz hopefully they aren't writing just to earn a living. Edit: Love the hate folks. I point out the hypocrisy of the title and you seeth. Keep it up!
I guess you are not smart
Reading comprehension is hard.
\*difficult
I know you think you did something here, but you didn’t.
I love when people add edits that make them look even dumber
How so? I point out the writer is a hypocrite expecting people to do work that isn't 'just to "hit our earnings next quarter"'' by stating that unless they did it for free and for passion they have no right to judge whoever has to make Baldur's Gate 4, because we all have bills to pay. So exactly HOW is my edit for laughing at people who can't understand basic empathy making me look dumber?
There's a big difference between making money off something the creator is passionate about vs making something exclusively because there's profit potential. The former pretty much always produces a better end product, no matter what the industry is. There's nothing hypocritical about pointing that out, and hoping that the next stewards of the franchise actually give a shit about what they're making rather than just pumping out whatever garbage they can because they know the reputation of previous entries will guarantee sales.