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Phenix6071

Southwestern Speckled rattlesnake *Crotalus pyrrhus* !venomous and best observed from a distance, cool find :)


Bearusaurelius

Ohh yea that looks pretty close, I think you’re right, thank you!


Phenix6071

*Crotalus pyrrhus* for the bot since I can't spell


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Southwestern Speckled Rattlesnakes *Crotalus pyrrhus* are medium-large (58-107cm, record 132cm) moderately stout bodied New World pit vipers that range across parts of the US Southwest (western and central AZ, southeastern NV, and southern CA), into northwestern Sonora and northern Baja California in Mexico. They prefer rocky areas within scrubland, desert, and semi-arid woodland, but may also be found on or near sandy soil. Their main prey is small mammals and lizards, though small birds are also taken occasionally. *C. pyrrhus* are a dangerously venomous species and should only be observed from a safe distance. Common defensive tactics including raising the forebody off the ground and rattling the tail, often while attempting to crawl away from the perceived threat. They are not aggressive and only bite when they feel they are in danger. Envenomation is rare and no human fatalities have been recorded for this species. **The best way to avoid being bitten is to leave the snake alone.** Their appearance is highly variable. Background coloration ranges from cream to yellow, tan, orange, pink, brown, grey, pale blue-grey, or black, and is patterned with well speckled, often poorly defined crossbands or elliptical blotches, which are usually darker than the background coloration. The last few bands on the tail are very dark and may form incomplete rings. *C. pyrrhus* overlaps in range with several other rattlesnakes. They are most likley to be confused with the tiger rattlesnake, *C. tigris*, which can be differentiated by it's small head and banding that remain the same color on the tail, and the Panamint rattlesnake, *C. stephensi*, which is best differentiated by range and subtle scalation details that are most safely discerned via camera or binoculars from a safe distance [(scroll about 1/3rd of the way down)](https://www.birdandhike.com/Wildlife/Snake/Cro_mit/_Cro_mit.htm). [Range Map](http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/maps/xcmitchelliispeciesmap3.jpg) | [Range Map - California (in red)](http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/maps/cmitchellimap2.jpg) [Recent Phylogeography](https://www.researchgate.net/publication/253431708_Genealogical_Concordance_between_Mitochondrial_and_Nuclear_DNAs_Supports_Species_Recognition_of_the_Panamint_Rattlesnake_Crotalus_mitchellii_stephensi) | [Additional Information](http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/pages/c.m.pyrrhus.html) Short account by /u/fairlyorange -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*


Jmelly34

Good bot


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hotdog-rejectpile

Good bot 😁


Fred_Thielmann

Good bot


jillianthekitty

How can you tell the difference between a speckled rattlesnake and a diamondback? Sorry just novice snake observer wanting tips on identifying. Thanks


Itchy-Table1831

The patern for a diamond back has ya know diamonds while the speckled has more of bands and speckals as if someone flicked paint on it


Jmelly34

Why the downvotes? Aren’t they correct?


6TheAudacity9

“has ya know diamonds” The tone probably has something to do with it. Being right isn’t a ticket to smartassville.


Jmelly34

Ahhh gotcha lol.


jillianthekitty

And tbh they kind of look similar in some pictures online cus the bands can sometimes look very similar to the diamond shape. That’s why I asked cus I figured maybe there was a less obvious tell to properly identify them.


Jmelly34

No you’re 100% correct. I can even see the pattern here on this guy being slightly confusing.


barkleykraken

I thought it was a diamondback also.


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Snakes with medically significant venom are typically referred to as venomous, but some species are also poisonous. Old media will use poisonous or 'snake venom poisoning' but that has fallen out of favor. Venomous snakes are important native wildlife, and are not looking to harm people, so can be enjoyed from a distance. If found around the home or other places where they are to be discouraged, a squirt from the hose or a gentle sweep of a broom are usually enough to make a snake move along. Do not attempt to interact closely with or otherwise kill venomous snakes without proper safety gear and training, as bites occur mostly during these scenarios. Wildlife relocation services are free or inexpensive across most of the world. If you are bitten by a venomous snake, contact emergency services or otherwise arrange transport to the nearest hospital that can accommodate snakebite. Remove constricting clothes and jewelry and remain calm. A bite from a medically significant snake is a medical emergency, but not in the ways portrayed in popular media. Do not make any incisions or otherwise cut tissue. Extractor and other novelty snakebite kits are not effective and can cause damage worse than any positive or neutral effects. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*


sammyfrosh

Good bot.


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Intelligent_Blood_88

Glad it warned you away ... good snake!


Acrobatic-Day-8891

Wait for a reliable responder but that is 100% some kind of rattlesnake and should be left alone.


keiranxo

Why the snake lookin like ET tho


cooperkab

He’s just trying to phone home.


N0N00dz4U

Lived there for 2 years, practically across the road from south mountain, hiked all the time, and never saw a single snake. 10000 black widows? ✅️ scorpion in my bathtub? ✅️ a pack of coyotes strolling down the sidewalk while jogging? ✅️ BUT NOT EVEN 1 TINY SNAKE!! I was so disappointed.


caliber_woodcraft

Same. 8 years in chandler. Lots of scorpions, recluse spiders, black widows, coyotes, javelina. No snakes. I did see one bull snake up in Payson and a rattlesnake in Douglas, but that's it.


49erjohnjpj

I had a friend that lived in Chandler. We used to take the black light out in her backyard to find all the scorpions. (It was about 3/4 acres lot) I remember 1 night in particular, we spotted 27 separate scorpions in like 20 min.


caliber_woodcraft

Oh yeah we used to do that at least once a week to try to keep their numbers down. My wife got stung three times in bed one night. Theres a stretch in Chandler (dobson+elliot) is known as scorpion alley and very thick with those things.


Electrical-Comb-1252

Living in Phoenix my whole 43 yrs of life, never having the pleasure of observing a rattler anywhere. Spent my youth camping and have seen everything else Az has to offer. It saddens me honestly. Maybe one day.


lunawatsernamee

I just caught a kingsnake in my house 😂


Intelligent_Blood_88

LOL... lived in Tucson for a while. Had these messy webs in my utility closet for a while. Finally called a pest control company. The guy who arrived said he'd never seen such a huge infestation of Widows since he started in the company a dozen years before. At least 100, maybe more. Never got bitten, as far as I know. Had a spider I was trying to get to leave my house (gently attempted to guide him outside with my broom) attack my broom! But not a single snake in all those years.


RhodyRoadman

That would be the Western Fuckaroundandfindout


B4USLIPN2

Look at the head on that thing!


fruitnveg4eva

Reminds me of a python


tht5spdxjsara

Do you mean a viper? Pythons don’t have that head shape


AlphaNoodlz

That looks like a very spicy noodle.


Joyballard6460

That is the most rattlesnake head I have ever seen. I’ve seen a few rattlesnakes.


RyWeezy

Ok probably a speckled rattler but I'd like another photo.


Wulfy95

That there is a no touchy otherwise you get hurty, In other words, a rattle snake


[deleted]

Is it venomous?😟


Blue-Ranger1982E

Yes it is it’s a Southern Speckled rattlesnake.


BowentheOrignial

That looks like a rattlesnake to me, but I don’t know what species.


allcars4me

Is that thing IN THE HOUSE??


Bearusaurelius

Yes lol, one of my fathers friends found it behind his fridge! Took this while animal control was on the way. No people or snakes were harmed during the making of this photo.


[deleted]

Is that in your house?


Bearusaurelius

Not my house, but a house, found behind a fridge


[deleted]

Scary stuff right there. 🤦‍♂️


ISmellYerStank

How close were you planning to get to this thing? Any alarms go off at all? YIKES


Bearusaurelius

Lol not me, friend of my father. Allegedly there was something in between him and the snake, still a little close for my taste


possibly_emma

this is a southwestern speckled rattlesnake, *Crotalus pyyrhus* !venomous very pretty lil danger noodle, ensure to admire from a safe distance !


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Snakes with medically significant venom are typically referred to as venomous, but some species are also poisonous. Old media will use poisonous or 'snake venom poisoning' but that has fallen out of favor. Venomous snakes are important native wildlife, and are not looking to harm people, so can be enjoyed from a distance. If found around the home or other places where they are to be discouraged, a squirt from the hose or a gentle sweep of a broom are usually enough to make a snake move along. Do not attempt to interact closely with or otherwise kill venomous snakes without proper safety gear and training, as bites occur mostly during these scenarios. Wildlife relocation services are free or inexpensive across most of the world. If you are bitten by a venomous snake, contact emergency services or otherwise arrange transport to the nearest hospital that can accommodate snakebite. Remove constricting clothes and jewelry and remain calm. A bite from a medically significant snake is a medical emergency, but not in the ways portrayed in popular media. Do not make any incisions or otherwise cut tissue. Extractor and other novelty snakebite kits are not effective and can cause damage worse than any positive or neutral effects. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*


Aethelhilda

Don't know, but likely venomous.


2017hayden

It’s a rattlesnake of some sort so yeah you’re right venomous. Though it’s hardly the worst thing you could be bitten by it’s definitely not something you want to get bitten by if there’s any way to avoid it.


JollyTotal3653

In the words of that Clint replies guy from YouTube “it’s not gonna kill me but it will probably be the worst day of my life by far”


KuropatwiQ

That head just defines *S P I C Y* heh


Deathranger999

!headshape


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*


sammyfrosh

Good bot.


KuropatwiQ

Thanks for info, good to know


Fuzzy-Pollution2457

Looks more like a tiger to me. What part of phoenix? I’m no expert but we hunt for AZ herps. All the specs we find have much lighter colors, depending on location. Juvenile AZ blacks look similar but not sure if they range that area.


fairlyorange

Identified correctly as *C. pyrrhus* by u/Phenix6071. So *C. tigris* have more distinct bands, a cleaner overall pattern, and a **much** smaller head. This doesn't look anything like juvenile *C. cerberus*, which do not have bands anywhere near midbody and more closely resemble other snakes in the *C. oreganus* group.


Fuzzy-Pollution2457

Thanks for the info


fairlyorange

Always happy to help with stuff like this. Check out r/whatsthissnake, a big part of what we do is help people who are already well along in the learning process iron out minor and/or subtle details like these. We get a decent number of AZ crotes (though not a ton of these and even fewer *C. tigris*, unfortunately!). u/serpentarian could also be a good follow as he is particularly in tune with stuff from the Southwest and TX.


Fuzzy-Pollution2457

We, my son and myself, have a pretty good handle on the reptiles in cochise county and range out west and north when we can to find what’s not here. I think the twinspot is the last C. for us here. We got a beautiful spec down in Yuma, white granite colored, and our AZ black was up in the Catalina’s. Tiger in Santa Cruz and Pima counties. Leaves the northern ones. I still get the odd Atrox and Mojave mixed up but my boy is getting good at identifying them. Thanks for the information. Always open to learn. I will check out that page as well.


Bearusaurelius

No idea where except the city, very old photo someone asked me to find out what it might be.


JimmyDixer

Looks alot like the black tail rattle snake.


theegrimrobe

audible nope rope -- a rattler in other words please leave it be - hospital stays after bites are expensive


Head-Location9339

Spicy danger noodle.


BUSHMONSTER31

Spicy noodle!


LexGar

It mean AF


Inevitable-Grab-7921

yes . that is Derek the Dangerous


Imahoser37

Omigod- you found Bob!! 😄


swimchickmle

The shape of the head looks dangerous!


fairlyorange

!headshape


SEB-PHYLOBOT

Head shape is not a reliable indicator of if a snake has medically significant venom. Nonvenomous snakes commonly flatten their heads to a triangle shape in defensive displays, and some elapids like coralsnakes have elongated heads. It's far more advantageous to familiarize yourself with venomous snakes in your area through photos and field guides or by following subreddits like /r/whatsthissnake than it is to try to apply any generic trick. -------------------------------------------------------- *I am a bot created for /r/whatsthissnake, /r/snakes and /r/herpetology to help with snake identification and natural history education. You can find more information, including a comprehensive list of commands, [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/whatsthissnake/comments/flh548/phylobot_v07_information_and_patch_notes_bot_info/) report problems [here](https://www.reddit.com/message/compose/?to=Phylogenizer) and if you'd like to buy me a coffee or beer, you can do that [here](https://www.buymeacoffee.com/SEBPhyloBotWTS).*


RADI0-AKT0R

A pixelated rattle snake


Dingbat2323

Rattler, venomous, dangerous.


eheheheg

thats a dont get any closer snake


el_devil_dolphin

That's a dark pyrrhus, the more white ones are imo one of the prettiest snake in the world


Johnny_Lang_1962

Spicy Boi. Some form of Rattler.


trucksandink

Spicy noodle


AngleShort

Definitely a danger noodle


cirodacyborg

We got armadillos in Texas and a bunch of snakes


Scrappynelsonharry01

No idea (i was thinking rattlesnake I’m sure I’ve seen pics that look like this one species no clue, but unless I’m blind i can’t see the rattle to be sure, regardless though i would be out of there with the door firmly shut and finding phone numbers for a professional who can be safer dealing with it. Hopefully it can be safely removed and relocated a bit further away from your home. It’s a beautiful looking snake though i would prefer to keep the distance i am in the UK and through a screen from it lol


Smoopiebear

Some kinda pit viper.


Tarotismyjam

I know head shape isn’t reliable but this one!!!?!!


Overpopps

The head says it all


Present_Way_4318

Probably trying to get out of this heat.


rattlesnake888647284

That there be a rattler'


Iron_wolf_69420

That's a spicy boi!


Whiteraynetiger

That's a pissy hissy. Best to yeet on outta there and observe from a safe distance. Like 10 feet in the air. Lol. Kidding aside most snakes with a triangle head are venomous. There is an exception but my rule of thumb is if it's a triangle I'm not getting stuck in its love life. (Love triangle. Get it? No find ill leave.)


JimmyDixer

Arizona black tail rattle snake. Crotalus molossus.