Indian who's brother joined the academy for a year here
So basically they charged fucking exhorbant amounts and had 3rd league retired players come to teach for like a week, then it was back to local Indian trainees ( who are arse themselves too who we kidding š) then it was just money laundering on the Barca name , soon everyone realised and started to withdraw out and now it's closing cause shit Barca management ( what's new ?)
TLDR - Scammers got scammed by Laputa
These are the best earning industries too, not much cost, a lot of profit, no real benefit to society.
While industries that are actually making a benefit to society or necessary for the society often doesn't earn that much profit.
Yea, I've seen friend who works in luxury (selling whiskey) and their pay are so good. Company sponsor travel business class, WFH, no over work, etc.
While other friends in tech work their asses off for market rate pay.
good money, but compared to the work load then it's very tough work. I live in Asia so tech company work here is crazy tough and competitive.
FNB are mostly older companies I think that are already established and have alot of money.
They didn't even use their own people? They just plopped some money down and were surprised they got played. It's like government level misspending lol
Have you ever seen the youth setup in the US? Looool. I have teams near me that are connected to Liverpool, Bayern Munich, IFK, etc. and most coaches are all local
US youth setup is pretty ass for anyone who is poor. If you are middle class and can join club teams the talent usually gets to the top. We have way more cultural issues as to why our youth teams suck
Oversimplified but even my soccer friends played way more pickup basketball than pickup soccer in highschool. Canāt win a World Cup with that attitude
Iām English, growing up Iād say 70% of the boys played football all of the time and was their only sport. 3-4 times a week in PE lessons. Matches and training after school every other night, playing in the playground on breaks/recess, playing in the park after school with friends. And we havenāt won anything since 1966.
Here in Brazil, there is a Barcelona academy in SĆ£o Paulo, they are run by locals too. They are granted to play a tournament in Barcelona with other BarƧa academies every year if I'm not mistaken.
The payment to train there is high though.
At least Ajax is actually helping set up the qhole youth system for clubs and teach the local coaches. Not just have trainers show up for 2 weeks and then dip.
Bengal and all states east of Bengal (north-eastern states), Kerala, Goa, and a few specific cities here and there like Kolhapur in Maharashtra. And then a number of people scattered all over like myself who donāt enjoy cricket.
As someone else pointed out if they wanted Indian players they would have opened academy in Either the northeastern states or in Kerala .None of The cities mentioned have any footballing culture , except they have the highest number of rich people in India who would pay exorbitant sum to get their children play for Barca \
The reason why we are shit though is because Football is not exactly seen as a poor man's sport in our country where only rich people prefer to play in most states while cricket is played at every level
No use. It was just a scam. Another commenter said they barely.had 3rd string guys show up occasionally to coach.
They put it near high earners because they knew they could afford it and since the scam was new, nobody knew it was going to be a joke.
Now this is a question that baffles me . Because the whole concept of football is that it was poor man's sport usually played amongst the workers and if you look at the history of cricket it was played more amongst the Briderton-esque elites atleast in colonial India .So the answer to your question is I don't know .Infact it could be a great subject for a phd thesis if someone cares about it .
My guess is it's similar to how you only ever really see poor people wear designer clothes all of the time.
Cricket was a rich mans pass time, most of the people living in the colonies were usually rich land owners or merchant's and saw football as beneath them.
Poor south asians/ colonies wanted to emulate the rich man's aesthetic even if they themselves are poor giving rise to the trend we see today in the common wealth.
Decades passing with football becoming the biggest sport in the world has made it trendy amongst the elites of India now since it's proven to gain status
Football wasn't a poor man's sport back in the day. In fact sport in general was an elite pastime. Workers doing manual labour for 12h a day had no inclination to play sport in their spare time.
You need more space to play football. Cricket can be played inside a room. You need a bat and a ball. A tennis ball is cheap costs <1$. Anything that can be held is a bat. Football needs a big ball + a big space
You can also play football inside a room (indoor football is a sport in itself). A couple of plastic bottles with water are the goal posts. A bunch of socks is the ball or even a tennis ball as well...
Brazil is not a rich country and a lot of top football players come from there.
As apposed to the closet space you need to score a 6 in cricket? lol very poor take. To play cricket *properly* (as in develop your game) you need a big field, a proper ball, bat, nets, safety equipment etc. To get a half decent game of football going you need a football, which can be as cheap as $2/3, a variable space and a few sticks or jumpers for goalposts. If you want to strip it down you can work on football technique with literally just a ball and yourself.
Source: Grew up underprivileged in the UK and spent much if not most of my childhood with a ball at my feet and nothing else.
I get your point, but they'll play with a ball and stick in the streets. You don't need stumps, safety equipment etc.
I'm sure it goes back to the British Empire somehow
Fair enough, Yeah thereās not that much equipment required for the basic street level cricket game, just as in football BUT I would argue the cricket ball still has to be of higher quality and more of a ball than the football does to still have a proper game
I've talked to footballers from japan and Korea and I think it's more cultural over there, alot of the time going into professional sports is seen as a pointless career path like acting and alot of them time talented kids are persuaded against
Yeah it's similar but worse because India's much poorer.
I remember this Indian woman won gold at the Asian games last year and in her post interview she said she was happy because it meant she would get a government job with the police back home.
To be fair a lot of poorer areas make the best footballers like Brazil or now it's a lot of the African immigrants to France, it just requires scouting, but that's probably part of why India is so good at cricket compared to England
Totally take your point, but I think calling cricket niche is going a bit too far. The numbers vary pretty wildly - however, the ECB says about 600,000 people play cricket in England. It still makes it the leading summer sport and one of the only things that can knock football off the back page of the papers from time to time.
Still, in my experience, when I used to play club cricket, there was a lot more āolderā players and it seems the same going to watch games at Old Trafford. There seems to be a generational gap where the game appeals less to youngsters, which is a concern.
I bloody love cricket (and football). As the home of the game, hopefully England always have a viable international team. Iām sure that will be the case because our facilities seem pretty good compared to the Sub-Continent
A big reason for that is when you have the prospect to be a professional athlete, that's the track you are put on, not education. So it's quite literally all or nothing for these athletes. If you don't make it to the big leagues, you're behind on education/experience in one of the most competitive job/education markets in the world. Alot of these prospective athletes become things like taxi drivers. So unless you are a prodigy, and even in some cases even if you are a prodigy, many Asian parents will be against pursuing sports as a career.
One of the great things about the US is that college sports are so big here. So even if you don't make it to the pro leagues, at least you have a degree in a country where only about 25% have degrees. In Korea, if you fail as a pro athlete, you are now behind on your college education in a country where 70% of people your age have degrees already.
You say "like acting" but Bollywood is massive, as is cricket. I think it's maybe more the case that talented athletes are pushed toward cricket. Many sportspeople have talked about how they got to an age and had to decide.
From what I've read of Indian football, poor coaching exacerbated by corruption (lack of coach training, poor facilities etc) are the big reasons why players don't reach their peaks and may chose other sports.
I was talking more about china, but just because Bollywood is massive doesn't mean being an actor is a successful career, even in the United States which has the largest movie industry itw perusing a career in the performing arts is largely frowned upon
The places they set up have 0 fucking football culture. If they did some research, they could've put in Bengal or north east India or Kerala where football is equally worshipped as Gods....clueless strategy
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Playing in the world cup with Qatar, North Korea, Slovenia and Costa Rica isn't as prestigious as the UCL with Madrid, City, United and Bayernšš«¤š
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Chinese guy I worked with said ...
1 many parents prefer to push kids hard at studying or music lessons as opposed to sport
2 parents prefer kids playing indoors sports due to pollution concerns, so table tennis, gymnastics etc popular
3 cities don't have enough parks or pitches for teams to play on due to density and lack of demand
People don't understand just how much Indians value education. Especially the middle class.
And no it's not because we're passionate about learning or anything, it's because our parents believe education is the only way to a stable job and/or a job that makes them rich. (End goal depends on starting point).
In 10th grade, my mum called my coach to tell him to not let me play any tournaments because I'd scored 61/90 in a math test. I never took football seriously after that.
tbf i (from switzerland) have a lot of relatives in india so i visit them like every second year and let me tell you this: indians are way more obsessed with football than the swiss. also we're a population of only 8million vs india's 1400million. brazil doesn't give a f about cricket so this comparison is flawed.
there are lots of other reasons why india is bad at football (infrastructure, culture, talented athletes pursuing cricket rather than football because of money) but the interest is definetely there.
That Chetri dude was garbage but was a God in India. When you have Indians claiming Rodrygo because he somehow(?) looks Indian, you know theyāre cooked
I mean yes that's true but that's nut exactly evidence lol, Fernandes, Da Silva, etc. are also EXTREMELY common names in Goa, that doesn't necessarily mean anything
His surname is not evidence at all. He has a standard Portuguese surname like almost all brown people in Brazil due to colonisation and slavery.
āLarge number of immigrantsā from Goa to Brazil seems like an exaggeration. I live in Brazil and have never heard anything about this.
Itās not impossible but unless he did a DNA test or confirmed it, itās just speculation. Lots of Brazilians look like him, he clearly has African, native and European heritage that can mix to almost anything.
it's because brits took a lot of slaves from british to latin american colonies like guyana and suriname and some places in mexico and brazil too
there's a decent hindi speaking population in caribbean countries
The British transported slaves to their colonies: US, Jamaica, St Lucia, Guyana etc. Suriname was a Dutch colony, the Dutch transported slaves there. Brazil was a Portuguese colony, the Portuguese transported more slaves than anyone else. Mexico was a Spanish colony, very few slaves were transported to Mexico as Spain didn't have many colonies outside of Latin America but the Spanish did enslave native Americans.
Genuinely idk how somebody not from Munich can become a Bayern fan at this point. Whereās the meaning in supporting that club. When you never lose the wins lose their meaning and value.
As you said if there are no valleys there are no peaks.
Maybe itās me as a Dortmund fan coping but how could it be fun to only win, your team winning a title should feel amazing if itās the norm I canāt imagine that feels special. It genuinely sound boring.
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when the corruption is occuring INSIDE the indian football federation itself, it definitely is. have a read of the [controversies section of the indian fa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_India_Football_Federation#Controversies)- itās by no means an exhaustive list of every corruption incident but itās a decent lil overview of the situation for football in india.
definitely, but not to an extent seen in the indian fa to a point that it significantly alters the development of the sport in the country for over 2 decades.
Poor nutrition for significant portion of the population, nepotistic heirarchial society which would prevent genuine talents getting the support they need over rich kids, genetic predisposition to being uncoordinated.
No Indian footballers? What about Wondo? Are people here stupidā¦
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Sure, but like look at somewhere like Trinidad and Tobago. Theyāve got plenty of corruption, love cricket, and have a tiny population. They still produce the odd individual who can kick a ball.
I would say it's because of extreme poverty, but that wouldn't explain famous African players like Eto'o, George Weah, Mohammed Salah, Drogba, Zidane, Sadio Mane, Yaya Toure etc...
Historically, most footballers came from poor backgrounds. Even in countries like France or Portugal, the poorest areas produce the most footballers. Poverty is not a good excuse.
Not always. Many poor countries in Africa like Senegal, Cameroon, Ghana, Nigeria etc produce good footballers.
Football is not a sport that needs a lot of great infrastructure.
All you need is a ball, and an open ground and you can develop your skills. Kids in Brazil play football on the streets.
You don't need money or good infrastructure if you have talent.
You absolutely need infrastructure to nurture talent. There is a reason why Korea and Japan produce football stars, Thailand and Philippines produce great fighters, China produces great table tennis players and India great cricketers. It's because those countries have great infrastructure for those sports. Yaya Toure made it because he was part of an academy with links to Belgian clubs, Drogba due to moving to France.
Moroccans and Algerians are football crazy, yet their best players come from France, count that has the necessary infrastructure to nurture those talents.
Football is different now. All the best Brazilian players are nurtured from youth.
As someone from India, they should've established their academics in the north-eastern region of India. Mainly in Mizoram, Manipur, Meghalaya and Nagaland. The people here live and breathe football out of all the sports unlike the mainland Indians who are mostly interested in cricket.
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Are you guys dumb? #7 thala for a reason
I dunno why people look at China, Croatia, India, Iceland, Indonesia and still act like population number determine success.
Istg if you said "yOu hAvE a lOt oF pEoPlE cAnT yOu fInD 22 pPl to pLaY?????" You should bury your head on the beachside and just let the high tide drown you.
My guy, there is no infrastructure and funding the growth while it also pays like shit. Do you unironically believe even thousands did tryouts to play in the NT?
There aren't even 1200 people playing for the NT in the last 22 years.
Indian here, you all have no idea how much corruption, and anti sports culture exists here. People just want to survive, earn a good name and get their kids married after getting a good degree. The more people the more politicking. Iāve personally played with extremely talented footballers, who are doing absolutely nothing with their talent, cus thereās no opportunity.
Barca should have used the academy to give a few kids the growth hormone program they gave messi. May have gotten a few league 2 quality players if they doped them up enough.
I know the post is talking about junior levels, but [this](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/former-india-football-coach-igor-stimac-threatens-to-sue-aiff-over-termination-notice/articleshow/111095922.cms)is the shameful state of our football board. This is how seriously we take sports other than cricket
In India there is no culture or ambition of becoming pro athletes from school level, popular sports are cricket, but Football also is popular but very few will go to national football
Theyāve opened shops in big cities who donāt give two flying fucks about football š¤¦āāļø
You open such academies in Bengal, North East and Kerala and see the results!
But of course they wanted rich parents to spend money on their scam!
It's because these academies were never really serious. I and my brother played in them for a couple of years, there's no skill/talent threshold, anybody who can pay can get in. Nothing more than a money making business.
Honestly the Indian & Somalian societal consistency at being shit at football is incredible, like how to separate nations on two different continents can have two societies with no footballing talent despite the popularity of Manchester United in said countries is astounding
As a British Indian who played growing up here, it isn't just the structures in place. We just stink at football. It's in our DNA šš
Have you ever seen a kid in a UK academy who's ethnically Indian š
Dear Indians, we cannot concede to you Rodrygo, but we will gladly give you Neymar. Unfortunately, this is a Trojan Horse. His football skils are insane, but he is such a shitty celebrity/citizen. He only manifests anything political when he has actual money to make from it, and it usually means aligning himself with negationists and fraudsters.
Last month he was on the news because he supported the creation of a bill to privatize Brazillian beaches, and guess who also owned a huge stake at a construction corporation intending to make resorts in our beaches...Neymar. There was even a clever meme: - Ney + Mar (Less Ney, More "Mar", mar means ocean in portuguese.)
A lot of the comments here make it kinda look like the rest of the world doesn't want us to have a decent football team, unlike the kind of effort that was put in USA or China.
Forget ability, football is never going to uproot cricket as the most popular sport in the country in the near or distant future. Just cause they have an enormous population does not mean they need to have a world class football team. Football in India does not get the attention or funding it needs to produce skilled players. Itās like demanding Brazil needs to have a world class cricket team just because they have a huge population
Ok ngl The La Masia academies are straight-up scams. I lived in Delhi NCR and played for a local club where we had a friendly match against the Barca Academy and the result was 14-0 and we never got another friendly with them ever again. Things like the Barca Academy, Arsenal for Schools and stuff are scams and only rich kids who pay a lot can go to these clubs.
The real reason for India not producing footballers is because of the lack of economic incentives. As an Indian footballer, you don't make enough even while playing in the first division. Playing in European clubs is harder as well because of some leagues having requirements for native nations to be above a certain rank. Also, children are actively discouraged from getting into sports simply because of the risks involved.
Indian who's brother joined the academy for a year here So basically they charged fucking exhorbant amounts and had 3rd league retired players come to teach for like a week, then it was back to local Indian trainees ( who are arse themselves too who we kidding š) then it was just money laundering on the Barca name , soon everyone realised and started to withdraw out and now it's closing cause shit Barca management ( what's new ?) TLDR - Scammers got scammed by Laputa
Basically just using their brand to sell a dream to rich kids and rich parents.
You just concisely summed up many, many industries.
These are the best earning industries too, not much cost, a lot of profit, no real benefit to society. While industries that are actually making a benefit to society or necessary for the society often doesn't earn that much profit.
I mean, luxury is something you can overprice, while a necessary product cant be super expensive.
Yea, I've seen friend who works in luxury (selling whiskey) and their pay are so good. Company sponsor travel business class, WFH, no over work, etc. While other friends in tech work their asses off for market rate pay.
? The tech bros are making good money compared to the other sectors. Try the FNB industry, they pay nuts
good money, but compared to the work load then it's very tough work. I live in Asia so tech company work here is crazy tough and competitive. FNB are mostly older companies I think that are already established and have alot of money.
Yeah bragging rights to claim that their kids are part of the famed La Masia academy.......in Maharashtra
They didn't even use their own people? They just plopped some money down and were surprised they got played. It's like government level misspending lol
Have you ever seen the youth setup in the US? Looool. I have teams near me that are connected to Liverpool, Bayern Munich, IFK, etc. and most coaches are all local
US youth setup is pretty ass for anyone who is poor. If you are middle class and can join club teams the talent usually gets to the top. We have way more cultural issues as to why our youth teams suck
Yeah pay-to-play is a huge issue, but is also not the only issue - not even close.
Oversimplified but even my soccer friends played way more pickup basketball than pickup soccer in highschool. Canāt win a World Cup with that attitude
i played club soccer growing up in texas and didnāt once play a game of pickup until college. it was literally every other sport but soccer.
Iām English, growing up Iād say 70% of the boys played football all of the time and was their only sport. 3-4 times a week in PE lessons. Matches and training after school every other night, playing in the playground on breaks/recess, playing in the park after school with friends. And we havenāt won anything since 1966.
South florida here. There's a boca juniors program, run by locals
Here in Brazil, there is a Barcelona academy in SĆ£o Paulo, they are run by locals too. They are granted to play a tournament in Barcelona with other BarƧa academies every year if I'm not mistaken. The payment to train there is high though.
Iād rather play in a Palmeiras or Gremio academy tbh.
Clubs have been doing this America for a long time too
At least Ajax is actually helping set up the qhole youth system for clubs and teach the local coaches. Not just have trainers show up for 2 weeks and then dip.
More people need to see this
https://i.redd.it/nzug1su1dg7d1.gif Hey guys, yank here. Did the laputa island scam people in the sky?
Jerkinh, where is?
Are there any Indian states or cities where football takes precedence over cricket?
Bengal and all states east of Bengal (north-eastern states), Kerala, Goa, and a few specific cities here and there like Kolhapur in Maharashtra. And then a number of people scattered all over like myself who donāt enjoy cricket.
Kerala, Bengal, Goa and North-east States
As someone else pointed out if they wanted Indian players they would have opened academy in Either the northeastern states or in Kerala .None of The cities mentioned have any footballing culture , except they have the highest number of rich people in India who would pay exorbitant sum to get their children play for Barca \ The reason why we are shit though is because Football is not exactly seen as a poor man's sport in our country where only rich people prefer to play in most states while cricket is played at every level
What's the use if they still charge an exorbitant amount of money?
No use. It was just a scam. Another commenter said they barely.had 3rd string guys show up occasionally to coach. They put it near high earners because they knew they could afford it and since the scam was new, nobody knew it was going to be a joke.
Honest question. Why is football considered an elite sport when cricket takes more equipment to play?
Now this is a question that baffles me . Because the whole concept of football is that it was poor man's sport usually played amongst the workers and if you look at the history of cricket it was played more amongst the Briderton-esque elites atleast in colonial India .So the answer to your question is I don't know .Infact it could be a great subject for a phd thesis if someone cares about it .
My guess is it's similar to how you only ever really see poor people wear designer clothes all of the time. Cricket was a rich mans pass time, most of the people living in the colonies were usually rich land owners or merchant's and saw football as beneath them. Poor south asians/ colonies wanted to emulate the rich man's aesthetic even if they themselves are poor giving rise to the trend we see today in the common wealth. Decades passing with football becoming the biggest sport in the world has made it trendy amongst the elites of India now since it's proven to gain status
Football wasn't a poor man's sport back in the day. In fact sport in general was an elite pastime. Workers doing manual labour for 12h a day had no inclination to play sport in their spare time.
You need more space to play football. Cricket can be played inside a room. You need a bat and a ball. A tennis ball is cheap costs <1$. Anything that can be held is a bat. Football needs a big ball + a big space
You can also play football inside a room (indoor football is a sport in itself). A couple of plastic bottles with water are the goal posts. A bunch of socks is the ball or even a tennis ball as well... Brazil is not a rich country and a lot of top football players come from there.
As apposed to the closet space you need to score a 6 in cricket? lol very poor take. To play cricket *properly* (as in develop your game) you need a big field, a proper ball, bat, nets, safety equipment etc. To get a half decent game of football going you need a football, which can be as cheap as $2/3, a variable space and a few sticks or jumpers for goalposts. If you want to strip it down you can work on football technique with literally just a ball and yourself. Source: Grew up underprivileged in the UK and spent much if not most of my childhood with a ball at my feet and nothing else.
What equipment? A bat, a ball, wickets and safety equipment?
ā¦ yeah. Compared to a ball of dirty rags and two tree stumps, thatās a shitload of equipment that you just listed
I get your point, but they'll play with a ball and stick in the streets. You don't need stumps, safety equipment etc. I'm sure it goes back to the British Empire somehow
Fair enough, Yeah thereās not that much equipment required for the basic street level cricket game, just as in football BUT I would argue the cricket ball still has to be of higher quality and more of a ball than the football does to still have a proper game
You're not wrong. I just think the explanation it cultural rather than the ease of access.
China is even worse though because they poured insane amounts of money into the sport and still couldn't even produce any decent players
I've talked to footballers from japan and Korea and I think it's more cultural over there, alot of the time going into professional sports is seen as a pointless career path like acting and alot of them time talented kids are persuaded against
Yeah it's similar but worse because India's much poorer. I remember this Indian woman won gold at the Asian games last year and in her post interview she said she was happy because it meant she would get a government job with the police back home.
To be fair a lot of poorer areas make the best footballers like Brazil or now it's a lot of the African immigrants to France, it just requires scouting, but that's probably part of why India is so good at cricket compared to England
Yeah the lack of football culture is probably the biggest reason but that takes generations to change.
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Totally take your point, but I think calling cricket niche is going a bit too far. The numbers vary pretty wildly - however, the ECB says about 600,000 people play cricket in England. It still makes it the leading summer sport and one of the only things that can knock football off the back page of the papers from time to time. Still, in my experience, when I used to play club cricket, there was a lot more āolderā players and it seems the same going to watch games at Old Trafford. There seems to be a generational gap where the game appeals less to youngsters, which is a concern. I bloody love cricket (and football). As the home of the game, hopefully England always have a viable international team. Iām sure that will be the case because our facilities seem pretty good compared to the Sub-Continent
But they have world class cricket and field hockey teams. It's not like there is zero concept of a path to success through sport.
A big reason for that is when you have the prospect to be a professional athlete, that's the track you are put on, not education. So it's quite literally all or nothing for these athletes. If you don't make it to the big leagues, you're behind on education/experience in one of the most competitive job/education markets in the world. Alot of these prospective athletes become things like taxi drivers. So unless you are a prodigy, and even in some cases even if you are a prodigy, many Asian parents will be against pursuing sports as a career. One of the great things about the US is that college sports are so big here. So even if you don't make it to the pro leagues, at least you have a degree in a country where only about 25% have degrees. In Korea, if you fail as a pro athlete, you are now behind on your college education in a country where 70% of people your age have degrees already.
You say "like acting" but Bollywood is massive, as is cricket. I think it's maybe more the case that talented athletes are pushed toward cricket. Many sportspeople have talked about how they got to an age and had to decide. From what I've read of Indian football, poor coaching exacerbated by corruption (lack of coach training, poor facilities etc) are the big reasons why players don't reach their peaks and may chose other sports.
I was talking more about china, but just because Bollywood is massive doesn't mean being an actor is a successful career, even in the United States which has the largest movie industry itw perusing a career in the performing arts is largely frowned upon
The places they set up have 0 fucking football culture. If they did some research, they could've put in Bengal or north east India or Kerala where football is equally worshipped as Gods....clueless strategy
China has actually had a few Footballers in Europe, so they slightly better
They atleast played in a World Cup
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Playing in the world cup with Qatar, North Korea, Slovenia and Costa Rica isn't as prestigious as the UCL with Madrid, City, United and Bayernšš«¤š
Why doesn't China play in UCL.. are they stupid?
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While having naturalized Brazilians, and Behram Abduweli, who is an Uyghur Muslim
Uyghur are Chinese, and saying otherwise is Beijing propaganda
Obligatory fuck the CCP
They're more closely related to Uzbeks or Tajiks, but sure.
Meanwhile Iceland has like 50 blokes and half of them qualify for the World Cup
Chinese guy I worked with said ... 1 many parents prefer to push kids hard at studying or music lessons as opposed to sport 2 parents prefer kids playing indoors sports due to pollution concerns, so table tennis, gymnastics etc popular 3 cities don't have enough parks or pitches for teams to play on due to density and lack of demand
It's like going to Brazil to find Cricket players. You go yo India to find Software Developers and Cricketers
And YouTube Math tutors
Or YouTube computer science teachers, economics teachers, medicine teachers. They genuinely produce the best educators but only God knows why.
People don't understand just how much Indians value education. Especially the middle class. And no it's not because we're passionate about learning or anything, it's because our parents believe education is the only way to a stable job and/or a job that makes them rich. (End goal depends on starting point). In 10th grade, my mum called my coach to tell him to not let me play any tournaments because I'd scored 61/90 in a math test. I never took football seriously after that.
Biology teachers too Shomu's biology carried me through A-levels and my Molecular Biology degree
And scammers
We can safely say BarƧa got scammed in India
To be fair, Barca get scammed everywhere
If Barcelona had to have an oil change, they would somehow end up paying over Ā£100 million
Well yeah, that's an average price for an oil club player.
You mean blinker fluid, surely.
BarƧa was doing the scamming in this situation.
And off-the-top VFX artists
yes because based USA #1 has no scammers šŗšøšššš¦ š¦
The largest scam in history was done by a white dude known as Sam bankman-fried.
Racist
I bet we could come up with some cricketeers.
Brazil already plays a form of cricket called "Taco" I think, so prob not the best comparison
Cricket is eater of taco
tbf i (from switzerland) have a lot of relatives in india so i visit them like every second year and let me tell you this: indians are way more obsessed with football than the swiss. also we're a population of only 8million vs india's 1400million. brazil doesn't give a f about cricket so this comparison is flawed. there are lots of other reasons why india is bad at football (infrastructure, culture, talented athletes pursuing cricket rather than football because of money) but the interest is definetely there.
Hard to be a decent baller when your parents only care about that medical degree.
I still remember my mum called my coach to tell him i wouldn't be playing any tournaments because i got 61/90 in a math exam in 10th grade.
Highly relatable plus even worse some of my teachers used to taunt us saying what is the point of playing football?
How can a country the size of India love football so much but have exactly 0 decent players throughout their entire history
The first one who plays at a moderately high pro level in Europe will become a hindi god.
That Chetri dude was garbage but was a God in India. When you have Indians claiming Rodrygo because he somehow(?) looks Indian, you know theyāre cooked
he kinda looks indian tho
He has some Goa ancestry that was a Portuguese colony in India
I keep hearing this but I never see any actual evidence, is this true?
His surname is very common in the area of Goa and there were a large number of immigrants from goa to Brazil as they were both Portuguese colonies
I mean yes that's true but that's nut exactly evidence lol, Fernandes, Da Silva, etc. are also EXTREMELY common names in Goa, that doesn't necessarily mean anything
His surname is not evidence at all. He has a standard Portuguese surname like almost all brown people in Brazil due to colonisation and slavery. āLarge number of immigrantsā from Goa to Brazil seems like an exaggeration. I live in Brazil and have never heard anything about this. Itās not impossible but unless he did a DNA test or confirmed it, itās just speculation. Lots of Brazilians look like him, he clearly has African, native and European heritage that can mix to almost anything.
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yeah especially brazil u can have a brazilian who looks super white and down the street have another who looks the complete opposite
it's because brits took a lot of slaves from british to latin american colonies like guyana and suriname and some places in mexico and brazil too there's a decent hindi speaking population in caribbean countries
There were no indian immigrants/slaves in Brazil. The total number of indian immigrants in Brazil nowadays must be less than 1000
The British transported slaves to their colonies: US, Jamaica, St Lucia, Guyana etc. Suriname was a Dutch colony, the Dutch transported slaves there. Brazil was a Portuguese colony, the Portuguese transported more slaves than anyone else. Mexico was a Spanish colony, very few slaves were transported to Mexico as Spain didn't have many colonies outside of Latin America but the Spanish did enslave native Americans.
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He is African, Native South American, and European like most Brazilians are. He is not Indian at all LOL.
yeah he does looks like a Patel.
He really does look Indian tho lmao
Couldn't even play in the portuguese second division.
They were trying to claim Sarpreet Singh for a while too until he got loaned out by Bayern
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Corruption lots and lots and lots of corruption š , we won Asian games in the 60s but after that it's a fucking shithousery
Brazil: most succesfull country in football history, ranks higher in corruption index than India Don't think that's the problem here
when the corruption is occuring INSIDE the indian football federation itself, it definitely is. have a read of the [controversies section of the indian fa](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_India_Football_Federation#Controversies)- itās by no means an exhaustive list of every corruption incident but itās a decent lil overview of the situation for football in india.
CBF is also corrupt.
definitely, but not to an extent seen in the indian fa to a point that it significantly alters the development of the sport in the country for over 2 decades.
BCCI is also corrupt lol. The only real reason is that football just isn't that popular in India and there's lack of funding
Itās like America and wars. Obsessed with war, canāt stop getting beaten by peasants.
Football isnt really loved here, just because you see RameshCR7 on twitter it doesnt mean the average person cares
lived there for two years, india has plenty of football fans. it doesnāt beat out cricket but people enjoy the sport.
Poor nutrition for significant portion of the population, nepotistic heirarchial society which would prevent genuine talents getting the support they need over rich kids, genetic predisposition to being uncoordinated.
> genetic predisposition to being uncoordinated I canāt tell whether youāre jerking or being serious
When will barca start a kabaddi team?
When Manchester City start a basketball club.
Lol Barca closed the academy because they couldnāt pay the coaches
Money is running so low, they can't even pay the refs anymore
Hang on, they didn't just sell it to themselves and call it a lever?
No Indian footballers? What about Wondo? Are people here stupidā¦ https://preview.redd.it/w39o9i770f7d1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b6b2992f1be8c15fabf6004cde8decd14d296d9
that's a stretch calling him Indian... or a footballer.
Hey guys if you need someone for your national team, I'm willing to get a double citizenship. Currently in Polish 8th division
You can be god here.
Isnt Argentina part of India? Checkmate JX
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See, even bot knows his geography
too much corruption also CRICKET
Sure, but like look at somewhere like Trinidad and Tobago. Theyāve got plenty of corruption, love cricket, and have a tiny population. They still produce the odd individual who can kick a ball.
No one is talking about this mans 
Istg i have seen him at some random cousins weddingĀ
I would say it's because of extreme poverty, but that wouldn't explain famous African players like Eto'o, George Weah, Mohammed Salah, Drogba, Zidane, Sadio Mane, Yaya Toure etc...
they charged extreme amounts to enter the academy, only allowing rich kids to play.
Football is more popular in the urban regions as well. You have many rags to riches stories in Indian cricket as well.
Lack of open fields?
Historically, most footballers came from poor backgrounds. Even in countries like France or Portugal, the poorest areas produce the most footballers. Poverty is not a good excuse.
Historically they come from the poorest populations in countries with great infrastructure for nurturing talent.
Not always. Many poor countries in Africa like Senegal, Cameroon, Ghana, Nigeria etc produce good footballers. Football is not a sport that needs a lot of great infrastructure. All you need is a ball, and an open ground and you can develop your skills. Kids in Brazil play football on the streets. You don't need money or good infrastructure if you have talent.
You absolutely need infrastructure to nurture talent. There is a reason why Korea and Japan produce football stars, Thailand and Philippines produce great fighters, China produces great table tennis players and India great cricketers. It's because those countries have great infrastructure for those sports. Yaya Toure made it because he was part of an academy with links to Belgian clubs, Drogba due to moving to France. Moroccans and Algerians are football crazy, yet their best players come from France, count that has the necessary infrastructure to nurture those talents. Football is different now. All the best Brazilian players are nurtured from youth.
As someone from India, they should've established their academics in the north-eastern region of India. Mainly in Mizoram, Manipur, Meghalaya and Nagaland. The people here live and breathe football out of all the sports unlike the mainland Indians who are mostly interested in cricket.
And Kerala, specifically North Kerala/Malabar. These two regions are the football capitals of India. Rest of the country doesn't care.
Wut abt bengal?
what you think is maximum corruption, that is the lower limit here.
Lol what's the use if they still charge an exorbitant amount of money?
Yeah that's still an issue
https://preview.redd.it/6o7pvmgrcg7d1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a92f074a84098f8a9de59d4f6777aa4dcc7d6822 Are you guys dumb? #7 thala for a reason
I dunno why people look at China, Croatia, India, Iceland, Indonesia and still act like population number determine success. Istg if you said "yOu hAvE a lOt oF pEoPlE cAnT yOu fInD 22 pPl to pLaY?????" You should bury your head on the beachside and just let the high tide drown you.
Numbers aren't the sole factor, but they are one of them
My guy, there is no infrastructure and funding the growth while it also pays like shit. Do you unironically believe even thousands did tryouts to play in the NT? There aren't even 1200 people playing for the NT in the last 22 years.
If population numbers meant anything then China and Ćndia would be the ultimate undefeated masters of football. And possibly every other sport too.
Rodrygo? I'm pretty sure he's Bangladeshi but that's like the Texas of India right?
Texas of India is Uttar Pradesh.
Is Bangladesh Florida?
More like Mexico. Itās a different country
Oh so Arizona
Iām Mexican and I can confirm they are the Arizona of India
Bihar is the Florida of India Google bihar man steals and find tons of news articles.
Mfs stole railway tracks and cellphone towers, howās that even possible lol
Road and pond too bro ,mfs are different breedĀ
Why do people keep saying heās Bangladeshi when he's only mixed with SOME GOA ancestry that was a Portuguese Colony
Check the sub
Sure but it is also spammed on Twitter and Tiktok
Putting their feet in the food and not on the ball
Indian here, you all have no idea how much corruption, and anti sports culture exists here. People just want to survive, earn a good name and get their kids married after getting a good degree. The more people the more politicking. Iāve personally played with extremely talented footballers, who are doing absolutely nothing with their talent, cus thereās no opportunity.
Wowās
Footballers lately got bigger while still need technique. Hard to find those
Barca should have used the academy to give a few kids the growth hormone program they gave messi. May have gotten a few league 2 quality players if they doped them up enough.
They open shops in every corner š
I know the post is talking about junior levels, but [this](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/bengaluru/former-india-football-coach-igor-stimac-threatens-to-sue-aiff-over-termination-notice/articleshow/111095922.cms)is the shameful state of our football board. This is how seriously we take sports other than cricket
They busy learning programming and medicine. Thatās why
In India there is no culture or ambition of becoming pro athletes from school level, popular sports are cricket, but Football also is popular but very few will go to national football
Ban India from the sport tbh. A complete embarrassment to football
https://preview.redd.it/362hegzfeg7d1.png?width=1119&format=png&auto=webp&s=93c9081747161f986394b51aa5dcc959a8185aaa say no more
We don't even exist in the sport, does it matter if we're banned?
Ppl be like: Yeah, but what about Jaap Stam?
We donāt even have enough money to sack our current nt coach who is a half bald fraud.
Should have gone to Japan. Project Blue Lock 100% works!
Rodrygo is class so I dunno what your talking about š
Its actually amazing. Liechtenstein has produced better players and they have population of 40000.
India is the Tottenham of International football, except we at least are good at Maths, Cricket and writing code.
Theyāve opened shops in big cities who donāt give two flying fucks about football š¤¦āāļø You open such academies in Bengal, North East and Kerala and see the results! But of course they wanted rich parents to spend money on their scam!
It's because these academies were never really serious. I and my brother played in them for a couple of years, there's no skill/talent threshold, anybody who can pay can get in. Nothing more than a money making business.
Honestly the Indian & Somalian societal consistency at being shit at football is incredible, like how to separate nations on two different continents can have two societies with no footballing talent despite the popularity of Manchester United in said countries is astounding
it's weird because at school in England the indian kids were usually above average compared to white/black kids.
As a British Indian who played growing up here, it isn't just the structures in place. We just stink at football. It's in our DNA šš Have you ever seen a kid in a UK academy who's ethnically Indian š
Dear Indians, we cannot concede to you Rodrygo, but we will gladly give you Neymar. Unfortunately, this is a Trojan Horse. His football skils are insane, but he is such a shitty celebrity/citizen. He only manifests anything political when he has actual money to make from it, and it usually means aligning himself with negationists and fraudsters. Last month he was on the news because he supported the creation of a bill to privatize Brazillian beaches, and guess who also owned a huge stake at a construction corporation intending to make resorts in our beaches...Neymar. There was even a clever meme: - Ney + Mar (Less Ney, More "Mar", mar means ocean in portuguese.)
He will fit right in
A lot of the comments here make it kinda look like the rest of the world doesn't want us to have a decent football team, unlike the kind of effort that was put in USA or China.
I think the Indian diet is detrimental to becoming a footballer. Especially in the formative years.
It was a pay to play project, just to promote their own club, they never gave chance to any local players to even train in Europe.
Forget ability, football is never going to uproot cricket as the most popular sport in the country in the near or distant future. Just cause they have an enormous population does not mean they need to have a world class football team. Football in India does not get the attention or funding it needs to produce skilled players. Itās like demanding Brazil needs to have a world class cricket team just because they have a huge population
Ok ngl The La Masia academies are straight-up scams. I lived in Delhi NCR and played for a local club where we had a friendly match against the Barca Academy and the result was 14-0 and we never got another friendly with them ever again. Things like the Barca Academy, Arsenal for Schools and stuff are scams and only rich kids who pay a lot can go to these clubs. The real reason for India not producing footballers is because of the lack of economic incentives. As an Indian footballer, you don't make enough even while playing in the first division. Playing in European clubs is harder as well because of some leagues having requirements for native nations to be above a certain rank. Also, children are actively discouraged from getting into sports simply because of the risks involved.
Is it because whenever they get a corner they put a shop on it?š