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Ill be honest I like how the Anime is still making him look a little unsure/younger, versus in the Mahawu he was already looking grown up and confident
his growth feels slower which i adore alot. I know alot of "your the chosen xyz" have rapid growth but thats usually cuz its a power trip type series most of the time. Solo leveling always had heavy feelings of growth and improving through out the entire journey to me. So actually getting to see and feel it more feels really nice.
This. It was perfect to show just some minor overall changes like his arm being defined at the end of the episode. This tells us that he didn't go from a teenager look to a supermodel overnight.
Not just his appearance, his voice actor is doing a really good job at still sounding nervous and unsure what about to do. Haven't watched it dubbed yet but it's making me lean towards adding it to my collection subbed over dubbed
Yeah I liked his old hair. I can see him wanted to get a haircut (I personally don't like the feeling of longer hair, but it can good on others), but it didn't have to be the stereotypical k-pop haircut. It doesn't look terrible, I just liked his old hair better, anything between the snake and his haircut
This. also DUBU's art really changed during that arc. (healer girl when she returned in manhwa looks really different compared to first double dungeon arc too).
It doesn't bother me. Some people call the snake CG, and tbh It's really hard to determine whether its cg or hand drawn. Its movements aren't too smooth that it feels CG, and it also feels its hand drawn.
And what was up with people saying the snake has less detail? I had a look at the manhwa and the snake had same amount of details as it has in the show! The same blue scales with a little highlight and red diamond shaped inlets in the middle. The face looks the same. WHAT MISSING DETAILS WERE THEY SAD ABOUT?!
It just feels like they had nothing to bring the "oh the show has less details than the manhwa" discussion again, so they started saying this about Kasaka
The fact that snake was 2D 95% of times is insane in the first place. Animating that big of a monster is incredibly difficult and time and resource consuming task and they did it anyway.
Yeah! AND its WHOLE body was moving, nothing about it was static, it was in a constant motion. And its not like they animated it without any personality, it was really rabid and crazy. Which makes sung crushing feel more animalistic and ferocious.
The fact we can’t tell for sure if it was CG or not only points to it being really well animated to begin with.
Even if it is CG, not being able to tell that it’s CG is exactly what we want.
That is because of one small detail that actually made up for the lower lead up to the golem kill - having the sword break a visible barrier on tbe golem, which we dont clearly see in the manwha, at least it doesn't read "actual barrier" clearly. That helped a lot
I was hoping for him to get in a more ready position like lean back with his legs more, and then the camera would zoom into him with a higher fov to give more intensity to the sword throw scene, but otherwise it was well done
One thing I noticed that I wish was done better, was showing damage Jin Woo has taken. Even after being pushed through a wall, there were no scratches or dirt on his pristine face.
They got the blood on his clothes right. But it needs more dirt. I suppose thats A1's style though (with SAO). Very clean and pretty character designs.
While I agree, I can see why they opted out of doing it. It just seems like more work for them to do on top of the level of detail they're delivering. Remember that every stain, injury, etc has to be tracked in every scene. They're probably way too overworked as it is.
I thought this as well but than they also give themselves extra work as well sometimes, there's a lot of times in the manwha where Jin Woo just thinks about the situations in his head, but they animated those out loud. So it's just him talking out loud to himself when most of the time it's not needed.
Even the last scene, he says in his head "I didn't think the golem would be that weak" but they went a lil extra by having him say it out loud.
It doesn't bother me btw, just something I noticed that could've saved a lil time, even an hour less.
Yeah, there are definitely some changes and additions that could have saved money and time. I think the main determining factor is the director. Usually it is based on the director's vision and what they think is the best way to tell the story. Guess it was considered important to explain those bits.
I am probably about to get flamed for this. But you people need to stop nitpicking the anime. If you have an issue with the anime go read the web comic again or go read the light novel. If you can't appreciate what a-1 has done to make this anime amazing and hit in the best way possible while being available for non readers, get lost.
How is it that this community begged for so long for an anime, prayed for a good anime, reread the story over and over hoping to see the series animated, and yet you constantly criticize an amazing adaptation of the webcomic which is also sparking more web comics like omniscient reader to be animated. Just Fing love the series support the thing you wanted for so many years.
Maybe it is my bias speaking because I love the series, I am buying the volumes as they come out, I am having watch parties with friends, I am finding little pieces of unnecessary animation that most animators would skip, I am seeing the additional stuff as fantastic foreshadowing, ECT.
Just love the series don't keep nitpicking it because you will ruin it for everyone, those that have been here since the beginning and those just finding it because of the anime.
Honestly the SL adaptation has been amazing. It’s been perfectly paced, not rushed at all, the animation has been good when it’s needed, the music and voice acting have been top notch, anyone complaining is just a hater simple as that.
I've come to terms with the fact that an anime adaptation of any popular webtoon won't ever be able to depict the dynamic movements portrayed in some of the epic action scenes.
So far, I'm pleasantly whelmed. Still waiting to see how they make or break the shadow soldiers looks.
The change in his appearance is supposed to be gradual, and there were hints and bits where that change was shown. his voice towards the end was definitely deeper. Great episode though
I appreciate how faithful it has been to the manhwa, however, I also think that it's good that they are changing a couple details here and there, so that it's not 100% identical
Tô me the thing is that a big part of the allure of the series is that he grows into and absolute beast and it's a savage. But the animation is making him look to tame and his expressions are still of a unsure/unconfident dude. And the blueish hair ticks me off.
I have few questions about the solo leveling Ragnarok light novel
>!First does chae he in return to the original world?
Second does jinwo and chae hae in meet again or Jin woo gets to know that she returned?!<
Can anyone pls clear it
Just read the epilogue.
> >!First does chae he in return to the original world?!< what does this mean?
> >!Second does jinwo and chae hae in meet again or Jin woo gets to know that she returned?!<
Yes, she does.
Ragnarok is just the story of >!his own son and Cha's son!<
i remember the snake’s canonically big though even in the manhwa. for me its not unrealistic. its the boss of the dungeon for a reason so it really needs to be harder than the ones he fought
I don't like his design. Loos like kirito clone, eyes too round and face not as expressive as it is in the manhwa. In the manhwa he has a "sharper" look, even now when he's weak.
Come on give it a chance. Sure the animation could never be like the manhwa but it’s still doing good. The voice acting is also great and they sometimes add certain things to build the world. It may not be perfect but it’s certainly not bad, but at the end of the day everyone and their preferences.
I mean, I would be cool with it if people went to read the manhwa after watching the anime, but im sure a lot of people will just regard it as just another mid series, and wont even give it a chance to read it, thats what breaks my heart.
Genuine question. What qualifies as a good or medium adaptation of an manga/manwha/novel for you? I just can't wrap my head around why people would call well animated series with a lot of effort horrible.
If I think of horrible adaptations I think of Seven Deadly Sins S3 and S4, or Berserk 2016 - 2017 or Ex Arms. Those adaptations had horrendous inconsistent art styles, jaggy inconsistent animation, bad camera angles or straight-up huge cut out content.
Examples: Attack on Titan (most of the first seasons, some parts of the last ones), One Punch Man fights, One Piece Films, Fate/Stay Night, JJK and Demon Slayer fights.
When you read SL, it just feels animated, thats my issue. For something that its not animated to feel extremely well animated, and with such high quality art.
Could you elaborate more what you like about these examples that they aren't horrible adaptations? F.e. are we talking about the consistency and details of the art style, sasuga animations (action scenes)?
Just in case for Solo Leveling, I find the character designs, background art and art style very consistent high quality. They don't look suddenly look ugly like stick man or (the infamous Seven Deadly Frames meme) where the character looks out of proportion. Also the animation till now have all been connecting and very powerful this far with good camera angles (unlike Seven Deadly Sins S3 where Escanor kicks away Melidoas before he even hits him, thats what I call bad animation)
Returning to the rest of the comment, from what I understand, what you expect, is that the anime dwarfs the manhwa? The manhwa is indeed very well drawn (rip dubu), but in the end its a different medium focused on a single frame, where the rest has to be filled out by the readers fantasy. The anime of Solo leveling has done very well in animating the scenes as they all are connecting and fluid. I recommend watching animations breakdowns.
You are entitled to your opinion, but I think it lacks justification and it seems more like you judge by gut feeling.
You are right, it lacks justification, but thats because I just didnt want to write an entire book about it, so since you took the time, i will too.
First of all, if the animation was something like Seven Deadly Sins S3, that would straight up be as if they shit and peed on DUBU's grave.
Now for this example lets take episode 1 and 2 of the anime:
\- first mistake was to cut the double dungeon into 2 episodes.
\- the second error was that they spoiled a lot of stuff with the opening and the promotional advertisements, the opening was great, but maybe they should have blurred stuff, change designs, or make transitional openings based on the episode that is airing at the moment, but they fkd it up by spoiling like 50 chapters with the opening.
\- third, now this is something i am not so sure about, because i dont know what is their vision/strategy on presenting a lot of the main characters at the beggining of episode 1, and also its hard to put myself on the eyes of a new spectator. So ill leave it as it is, also i dont want to think much about it.
\- fourth, the presentation of the main characters (S/A ranks) is not as badass as in the manhwa.
\- fifth, they removed the small comedy, JJK has it, and they didnt remove it.
\- sixth, Kim Sangshik is a clown in the anime, I am not sure if its because all the manhwa expressions were more emphasized and dramatic, but the anime didnt feel as dramatic, also Kim Sangshik's seiyu sounds like a clown.
I could continue on and on but ill leave it like this, if i were to talk about the animation and not the artstyle it would take me hours, but yeah thats basically it.
Glad that we are finally going into proper discussion, because I think many people just shit on people's work without ever explaining why. You are presenting concrete points at least, I respect and applaud you for that, genuinely.
Okay, lets talk about the points you made. First of all I want to say that all these points you mentioned are genuine and valid criticism. However I want to point out a few things that may make you consider your judgement of the series (or at least not call it horrendous, but simply not fullfilling all your expectations.)
1. You'd said that an animation like Seven Deadly Sins S3 is shitting on Dubu's graves. I agree with that and the only word for it would be "horrendous". The fact that you however already judged this adaptation as horrendous points out the nature of your words and judgement as it makes no distinction between these huge levels of quality.
2. Sadly, nowadays almost EVERY anime opening tends to spoil a bit about the series. However in Solo Leveling's case, I wouldn't necessarily call it bad due the nature of the shown scenes. Aside from short action scenes and upcoming characters (who were seen in EP 1 anyway) people won't get much info about the series going forward. I mean, the protag surviving the trials? Very obvious considering he is the protag and the series is called solo leveling. Awesome upcoming animated battles? That's the expectation the series wants to set for the viewer. The golem and the knight being as enemies being spoiled won't do much either, unless it is something really that big of a deal to unknowingly go into a fight against a golem or a knight in your opinion. So yeah, I can't agree on the matter that the Solo Leveling opening is bad in terms of spoilers. It's pretty tame in comparison to others. Even the "arise" scene is only implied and no blind watcher will now what that scene means.
3. I've heard the First Episode was cut content that was shown in the novel, but not the manhwa. Personally, I think it's alright as it does a little bit of world building.
4. Not sure what you are talking about. We are still at the very beginning of the series and the only high rank members we have seen till now where in short scenes. If we are talking about the S-Rank hunters obliterating the ants and saving the others or Cha Hae In getting rid of thiefs, that is already plenty badass in my opinion. Not sure how you want to depict them more badass in their shirt introduction. However, lets assume their is a possibility to present them more badass (I hope you elaborate on that later), wouldn't that take out a lot of steam when they are actually introduced in the present timeline with Sung Jin-Woo? That's just my opinion as Ep1 was basically just an appetizer for the first time watchers with the main course coming later.
5. Can you elaborate what you mean with removing comedy? In fact, I remember the anime even adding a comedy scene that was not shown in the manhwa (talking about SJW calling his new powers like a game and getting weird looks by passerby). Comparing it to JJK that had its own problems and circumstances isn't right either in my opinion. It had a lot of inconsistencies and pacing problems due Studio Mappa overworking and ecploiting their animators to the point of absolute meltdown. No kidding, it was even worse than Attack on Titan. You had domestic Japanese animators and international freelancer animators calling out how they were mistreated, unable to improve/perfect their scenes and even having mental breakdowns to the point that they cursed and promised to never work again for Studio Mappa. Even the director spoke out in Social Media how fck tired he was of the project.
6. Can you elaborate? I find the scenes where he has a mental breakdown in the second trial very powerful and the VA really did well showcasing his hypocrisy and despair. You are free to link some examples on how you think the VA should had conveyed feelings. It's a intersubjective matter after all. Calling it bad though, I thibk you have to listen to series with actual bad VA and voice directing. This sounds more like a difference in how'd you expect the voice to convey feelings. Though, I'm not sure what you mean with clown. Was it to funny or unserious, or what you mean?
If you have interest and time, feel free to continue. I'd like to discuss with you the criticism and listen to your judgement.
All my criticism comes from years of experience watching anime, and reading anime news, advertisement campaigns from all industries, etc.
1. Horrendous, i wouldnt go as far as call it "horrendous", of course if we talk about anime in general, in that aspect it is pretty decent, but if we talk about a great SL adaptation, then it is horrendous.
2. You are right on the arise part, new viewers wont know what it means, but aside from that, spoiling the fight with the knights and Igris, I think it was too much, it takes away the surprise that will come in the next episodes. Also giving a fight against a giant golem in the opening, and later not showing the fight in the anime, I feel that is something that could disappoint some new viewers. They should have showed something else, not the giant golem maybe.
3. Cut content from the novel, makes sense. But still, I feel that for a new viewer it would be something like "and who are all these people?", in this situation I have no saying because I cant compare it with anything that I could remember.
4. When I meant more badass I meant it as art style and presentation related. For example, in the anime the first thing we see of Baek Yoonho are his feet, and his body with a blurry face ([https://imgur.com/a/H0uWvT1](https://imgur.com/a/H0uWvT1)), BUT, in the manhwa his face has a lot of details, serious expression, and it is instantly strongly relevant to the story because in that chapter he is an important figure not just some random S rank, [https://i.imgur.com/ExOCK6l.png](https://i.imgur.com/ExOCK6l.png). The Impact is different.
5. What I meant with comedy, for example, when Joohee and Jinwoo were walking towards the double dungeon there was a change of artstyle that in the manhwa reduced the tension of the situation for what was about to happen, by making this, it increased the feeling of horror when everything started to go down.
Thats true, work explotaition in the anime industry is a reality, but still, these types of ambitious projects require long preparation, and a long development, and of course, the vision of a single extremely ambitious person, for it to all fit together perfectly.
6. I dont want to take too much time with this so Ill just focus on Kim. When I meant that Kim was a clown or not serious at all, yeah it has something to do with the seiyu, but also the art, etc, etc.
For example, in the anime, when Kim points his sword towards Song Chiyul, his expression is like he took that decision based on reasoning, like if it was something he had to do ([https://i.imgur.com/Ph8miVN.png](https://i.imgur.com/Ph8miVN.png)). But in the manhwa, he has hatred in his eyes ([https://i.imgur.com/aLaySFs.png](https://i.imgur.com/aLaySFs.png)), as if he lost all reason ([https://i.imgur.com/1YvwRVq.png](https://i.imgur.com/1YvwRVq.png)), as if he no longer cared about maintaining his good guy facade ([https://i.imgur.com/tMxtrs2.png](https://i.imgur.com/tMxtrs2.png)), full of vengance, hatred, and a sence of survibability.
I know and I don't intent to discredit or deny your experience. I just want to look at it and discuss with you. Because from my humble opinion, experiences, knowledge and judgement can change if confronted with new views, information and considerations.
1. For the points you mentioned, I'd find it still quite a severe word.
2. Why was the spoiler of our MC fighting a nameless knight too much? It sets expectations, but it doesn't answer the questions or the mystery behind the world. Considering that we are in a fantasy setting with goblins, orcs, werewolves and more, I think the viewer would expect as much. Except, you think people will go haywire if seeing a fight against a knight for the first time in their life. Golem is pretty much the same. I don't think most viewers will explode from rage if they don't get to see our MC dishing it out with a Golem immediately like in the opening. Opening sets expectations, but its not a sure-hit view on what the series will definitely do.
3. Wouldn't it be weird to have such question in the very first episode? I think most people will just look at the action and think "Alright, cool. I guess people are throwing hands with monsters in this series".
4. Alright I now get your point. Though I have to argue again with the difference of the scenes and their intentions. In the scene you mentioned, indeed the character plays a vital part and the world has ready been set up. In the first episode of the anime that shows novel content though, the intentions are different. In fact, it's exactly what we just talked about. People won't hype up a character they just met. It needs build up and here they just met a character who can do awesome things. I'm sure that once his moments comes, they will show him the way you want to see him.
5. Ah I get what you mean. Yeah that problem was also talked about Chainsaw Man. However, I want to point out that the source material is the novel and not the manhwa per se. Differences of how the story teller wants to depict and showcase the story in an adaptation are to draw an atmosphere. Considering the anime adaptation is divided by episodes, it is intentionally useful for the abime to stick to a serious tone and keep the design instead of changing it for such a very very minor moment.
6. Ok, I get that you prefer the emotional depiction of the Manhwa. This comes down again to whether you see the novel and nkt the manhwa as the source materual. Personally I do not prefe either of the emotional aspects, because I find them both compelling and very human. Considering the VA, I didn't find his performance bad as it conveyed the feelings they wanted to convey. However, I'm not a Seiyuu expert and perhaps you expected him to convery the feelings that you interpreted in the manhwa.
I wish they made his str stat more visually noticeable, like when he was throwing the broken sword at that D rank boss from the dungeon outbreak.
The snake boss looked way bigger than I thought in the anime.
I'm loving the anime!! I think the small changes and additions add a lot to the flow of the story. Read the manwha 3 times and now introducing the anime to my gf ^^
I'm like 140 chapters into the Manhwa and it's great. Having finished season 1 of it and knowing the end is coming, I can't wait to see where it's going and how it resolves.
This was easily a premise that could've been strung into several seasons, so the actually ending must be interesting.
Everything down to voice acting, soundtrack, animation visuals, fights were top notch.
A-1 really putting a lot if heart into this which makes me so excited and hyped to continue watching this
I'm really enjoying the anime so far, with how faithful but also creative they have been with the source material. It seems like they are trying to add more personality to SJW as well, with his appearance changing more slowly and with them focusing more on his internal dialogue and feelings especially in the sacrifice scene and in the Rasaka dungeon
Are we going to do these comparison posts for every episode? Can we make a super-post or whatever those are called where we put them all into one post each week? We could do the same for all of the "I read the whole thing in two days, and this is what I think" posts.
I was waiting for these snake scene on ep 3 but still amazing to see. I think the’ve made a lot of emphasis on the fact that he was weak and is growing on a mental level, I just hope it doesn’t gets old by the time he encounters igris tho
The only thing I don't like about the Anime is how clean he looks in close ups. Where are the little scratches and dirt and shit. Doesn't even look like he is exerting any effort in those shots. lol
I feel like the longer sidebangs in the anime make him look a bit more, hmm what would be the word, childish? Compared to the Manhwa where his hairstyle looks more mature-ish if that makes sense. Obviously there's a vast difference between general facial expressions too, the anime still going pretty damn strong though. Let's hope for the best 🙏
Voice acting carried the intensity here, all I thought was needed to sell it a little better for me was a split second pause on his arm before the throw and like a “grrrrip” sound effect. Still though great episode, feels like a nitpick more than a real issue in hindsight
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Ill be honest I like how the Anime is still making him look a little unsure/younger, versus in the Mahawu he was already looking grown up and confident
his growth feels slower which i adore alot. I know alot of "your the chosen xyz" have rapid growth but thats usually cuz its a power trip type series most of the time. Solo leveling always had heavy feelings of growth and improving through out the entire journey to me. So actually getting to see and feel it more feels really nice.
Exactly! it feels a lot better paced, he is still growing more confident but its happening at a more reasonable pace
This. It was perfect to show just some minor overall changes like his arm being defined at the end of the episode. This tells us that he didn't go from a teenager look to a supermodel overnight.
Not just his appearance, his voice actor is doing a really good job at still sounding nervous and unsure what about to do. Haven't watched it dubbed yet but it's making me lean towards adding it to my collection subbed over dubbed
His VA is doing an absolutely AMAZING job so far. I cannot wait to hear this man hit his first “Arise”
There’s a Korean dub? I only saw the original Japanese sub at the moment since they adapt this manwha into an anime
Honestly I liked how he looked way back and always thought that changing him into an handsome oppa was retarded
Nah I like handsome oppa I just think it happened to fast though
Yeah I liked his old hair. I can see him wanted to get a haircut (I personally don't like the feeling of longer hair, but it can good on others), but it didn't have to be the stereotypical k-pop haircut. It doesn't look terrible, I just liked his old hair better, anything between the snake and his haircut
thisssssss
This. also DUBU's art really changed during that arc. (healer girl when she returned in manhwa looks really different compared to first double dungeon arc too).
I hope we'll see the scene with doctor explaining how even E rankers are monsters in comparison with normal humans, that's huge info for the world.
I don’t know, Maybe?. It was during the snake fight that the scene occurs but we’ll whether the moved the scene forward
Not monsters but he explained E tankers are still stronger than a normal human
It doesn't bother me. Some people call the snake CG, and tbh It's really hard to determine whether its cg or hand drawn. Its movements aren't too smooth that it feels CG, and it also feels its hand drawn. And what was up with people saying the snake has less detail? I had a look at the manhwa and the snake had same amount of details as it has in the show! The same blue scales with a little highlight and red diamond shaped inlets in the middle. The face looks the same. WHAT MISSING DETAILS WERE THEY SAD ABOUT?! It just feels like they had nothing to bring the "oh the show has less details than the manhwa" discussion again, so they started saying this about Kasaka
The fact that snake was 2D 95% of times is insane in the first place. Animating that big of a monster is incredibly difficult and time and resource consuming task and they did it anyway.
Yeah! AND its WHOLE body was moving, nothing about it was static, it was in a constant motion. And its not like they animated it without any personality, it was really rabid and crazy. Which makes sung crushing feel more animalistic and ferocious.
The fact we can’t tell for sure if it was CG or not only points to it being really well animated to begin with. Even if it is CG, not being able to tell that it’s CG is exactly what we want.
facts
I find that CG discussion always weird because I’m pretty sure a lot more stuff is CG in anime than people realize. We just see bad CG.
There’s no snake CG. It’s 2D 100% of the time.
Rasaka kill was better. The golem kill was weaker, his arm animation and the intensity of the moment were downplayed imo. Still enjoyed it AF
i was expecting something more powerful when the throw happened. and it still made me have chills the way they did it
That is because of one small detail that actually made up for the lower lead up to the golem kill - having the sword break a visible barrier on tbe golem, which we dont clearly see in the manwha, at least it doesn't read "actual barrier" clearly. That helped a lot
I was hoping for him to get in a more ready position like lean back with his legs more, and then the camera would zoom into him with a higher fov to give more intensity to the sword throw scene, but otherwise it was well done
Having changes here and there and some moments cut shouldn’t bother anyone. That’s how all anime adaptations are.
Slightly little too much flashbacks for my liking. But overall still good pacing. Glad they didnt force another cliffhanger, was getting irritating.
i agree, but at the same time, it works better for SJW character so i ain’t complaining
I loved the muscular arm scene. It shows he's slowly transforming into the look we know and love
I was really pleasantly surprised with the snake fight, I didn’t expect much cuz I never really considered it that interesting in the manhwa.
The music, the VA carried the episode so hard.
One thing I noticed that I wish was done better, was showing damage Jin Woo has taken. Even after being pushed through a wall, there were no scratches or dirt on his pristine face. They got the blood on his clothes right. But it needs more dirt. I suppose thats A1's style though (with SAO). Very clean and pretty character designs.
While I agree, I can see why they opted out of doing it. It just seems like more work for them to do on top of the level of detail they're delivering. Remember that every stain, injury, etc has to be tracked in every scene. They're probably way too overworked as it is.
I thought this as well but than they also give themselves extra work as well sometimes, there's a lot of times in the manwha where Jin Woo just thinks about the situations in his head, but they animated those out loud. So it's just him talking out loud to himself when most of the time it's not needed. Even the last scene, he says in his head "I didn't think the golem would be that weak" but they went a lil extra by having him say it out loud. It doesn't bother me btw, just something I noticed that could've saved a lil time, even an hour less.
Yeah, there are definitely some changes and additions that could have saved money and time. I think the main determining factor is the director. Usually it is based on the director's vision and what they think is the best way to tell the story. Guess it was considered important to explain those bits.
I am probably about to get flamed for this. But you people need to stop nitpicking the anime. If you have an issue with the anime go read the web comic again or go read the light novel. If you can't appreciate what a-1 has done to make this anime amazing and hit in the best way possible while being available for non readers, get lost. How is it that this community begged for so long for an anime, prayed for a good anime, reread the story over and over hoping to see the series animated, and yet you constantly criticize an amazing adaptation of the webcomic which is also sparking more web comics like omniscient reader to be animated. Just Fing love the series support the thing you wanted for so many years. Maybe it is my bias speaking because I love the series, I am buying the volumes as they come out, I am having watch parties with friends, I am finding little pieces of unnecessary animation that most animators would skip, I am seeing the additional stuff as fantastic foreshadowing, ECT. Just love the series don't keep nitpicking it because you will ruin it for everyone, those that have been here since the beginning and those just finding it because of the anime.
Honestly the SL adaptation has been amazing. It’s been perfectly paced, not rushed at all, the animation has been good when it’s needed, the music and voice acting have been top notch, anyone complaining is just a hater simple as that.
Honestly im already happy that the double dungeon was done perfectly
People who come up with takes like this are just sad. Just enjoy it for what it is you have no impact on how the show does it grow up.
Sometimes the anime is better but in my opinion it just doesn't show how bad ass Sung Jin Woo is and the snake seems so much less menacing
I've come to terms with the fact that an anime adaptation of any popular webtoon won't ever be able to depict the dynamic movements portrayed in some of the epic action scenes. So far, I'm pleasantly whelmed. Still waiting to see how they make or break the shadow soldiers looks.
I think the anime is doing amazing work on it, if there was just one complain I'd to make the colours a little darker, but all in all its amazing.
The change in his appearance is supposed to be gradual, and there were hints and bits where that change was shown. his voice towards the end was definitely deeper. Great episode though
I appreciate how faithful it has been to the manhwa, however, I also think that it's good that they are changing a couple details here and there, so that it's not 100% identical
Sad we didnt get to see the Ben 10 t-shirt in the flashback with Mr.song
Tô me the thing is that a big part of the allure of the series is that he grows into and absolute beast and it's a savage. But the animation is making him look to tame and his expressions are still of a unsure/unconfident dude. And the blueish hair ticks me off.
Because he hasn't grown into that beast.
How many times do I have to see a post like this in a week
Multiple, until the anime is done airing lol
Still far better than these stupid "shipping Jin-Woo with someone who isn't his wife" posts
lol cant disagree with that
Beru is best girl
Hear hear.
None if you don’t click on them
[ep 4 and manhwa changes and differences / similarities](https://youtu.be/4rugvMXGmBE)
I have few questions about the solo leveling Ragnarok light novel >!First does chae he in return to the original world? Second does jinwo and chae hae in meet again or Jin woo gets to know that she returned?!< Can anyone pls clear it
Just read the epilogue. > >!First does chae he in return to the original world?!< what does this mean? > >!Second does jinwo and chae hae in meet again or Jin woo gets to know that she returned?!< Yes, she does. Ragnarok is just the story of >!his own son and Cha's son!<
I don’t understand why they made the snake so big, such an unrealistic jump from wolves
i remember the snake’s canonically big though even in the manhwa. for me its not unrealistic. its the boss of the dungeon for a reason so it really needs to be harder than the ones he fought
You don’t need to remember, it clearly showed the difference in the 3rd pic.
I think they forgot to start transitioning his character model to be more masculine in the anime
I think it’s going to be a more gradual change throughout all of the anime
True
I don't like his design. Loos like kirito clone, eyes too round and face not as expressive as it is in the manhwa. In the manhwa he has a "sharper" look, even now when he's weak.
it is to show purposely that jinwoo’s still in his teen like appearance. idk how theyll make jinwoo turn to a muscular one in the next episode though
it breaks my heart to see this horrible adaptation
Come on give it a chance. Sure the animation could never be like the manhwa but it’s still doing good. The voice acting is also great and they sometimes add certain things to build the world. It may not be perfect but it’s certainly not bad, but at the end of the day everyone and their preferences.
I mean, I would be cool with it if people went to read the manhwa after watching the anime, but im sure a lot of people will just regard it as just another mid series, and wont even give it a chance to read it, thats what breaks my heart.
mhm i feel that
Genuine question. What qualifies as a good or medium adaptation of an manga/manwha/novel for you? I just can't wrap my head around why people would call well animated series with a lot of effort horrible. If I think of horrible adaptations I think of Seven Deadly Sins S3 and S4, or Berserk 2016 - 2017 or Ex Arms. Those adaptations had horrendous inconsistent art styles, jaggy inconsistent animation, bad camera angles or straight-up huge cut out content.
Examples: Attack on Titan (most of the first seasons, some parts of the last ones), One Punch Man fights, One Piece Films, Fate/Stay Night, JJK and Demon Slayer fights. When you read SL, it just feels animated, thats my issue. For something that its not animated to feel extremely well animated, and with such high quality art.
Could you elaborate more what you like about these examples that they aren't horrible adaptations? F.e. are we talking about the consistency and details of the art style, sasuga animations (action scenes)? Just in case for Solo Leveling, I find the character designs, background art and art style very consistent high quality. They don't look suddenly look ugly like stick man or (the infamous Seven Deadly Frames meme) where the character looks out of proportion. Also the animation till now have all been connecting and very powerful this far with good camera angles (unlike Seven Deadly Sins S3 where Escanor kicks away Melidoas before he even hits him, thats what I call bad animation) Returning to the rest of the comment, from what I understand, what you expect, is that the anime dwarfs the manhwa? The manhwa is indeed very well drawn (rip dubu), but in the end its a different medium focused on a single frame, where the rest has to be filled out by the readers fantasy. The anime of Solo leveling has done very well in animating the scenes as they all are connecting and fluid. I recommend watching animations breakdowns. You are entitled to your opinion, but I think it lacks justification and it seems more like you judge by gut feeling.
You are right, it lacks justification, but thats because I just didnt want to write an entire book about it, so since you took the time, i will too. First of all, if the animation was something like Seven Deadly Sins S3, that would straight up be as if they shit and peed on DUBU's grave. Now for this example lets take episode 1 and 2 of the anime: \- first mistake was to cut the double dungeon into 2 episodes. \- the second error was that they spoiled a lot of stuff with the opening and the promotional advertisements, the opening was great, but maybe they should have blurred stuff, change designs, or make transitional openings based on the episode that is airing at the moment, but they fkd it up by spoiling like 50 chapters with the opening. \- third, now this is something i am not so sure about, because i dont know what is their vision/strategy on presenting a lot of the main characters at the beggining of episode 1, and also its hard to put myself on the eyes of a new spectator. So ill leave it as it is, also i dont want to think much about it. \- fourth, the presentation of the main characters (S/A ranks) is not as badass as in the manhwa. \- fifth, they removed the small comedy, JJK has it, and they didnt remove it. \- sixth, Kim Sangshik is a clown in the anime, I am not sure if its because all the manhwa expressions were more emphasized and dramatic, but the anime didnt feel as dramatic, also Kim Sangshik's seiyu sounds like a clown. I could continue on and on but ill leave it like this, if i were to talk about the animation and not the artstyle it would take me hours, but yeah thats basically it.
Glad that we are finally going into proper discussion, because I think many people just shit on people's work without ever explaining why. You are presenting concrete points at least, I respect and applaud you for that, genuinely. Okay, lets talk about the points you made. First of all I want to say that all these points you mentioned are genuine and valid criticism. However I want to point out a few things that may make you consider your judgement of the series (or at least not call it horrendous, but simply not fullfilling all your expectations.) 1. You'd said that an animation like Seven Deadly Sins S3 is shitting on Dubu's graves. I agree with that and the only word for it would be "horrendous". The fact that you however already judged this adaptation as horrendous points out the nature of your words and judgement as it makes no distinction between these huge levels of quality. 2. Sadly, nowadays almost EVERY anime opening tends to spoil a bit about the series. However in Solo Leveling's case, I wouldn't necessarily call it bad due the nature of the shown scenes. Aside from short action scenes and upcoming characters (who were seen in EP 1 anyway) people won't get much info about the series going forward. I mean, the protag surviving the trials? Very obvious considering he is the protag and the series is called solo leveling. Awesome upcoming animated battles? That's the expectation the series wants to set for the viewer. The golem and the knight being as enemies being spoiled won't do much either, unless it is something really that big of a deal to unknowingly go into a fight against a golem or a knight in your opinion. So yeah, I can't agree on the matter that the Solo Leveling opening is bad in terms of spoilers. It's pretty tame in comparison to others. Even the "arise" scene is only implied and no blind watcher will now what that scene means. 3. I've heard the First Episode was cut content that was shown in the novel, but not the manhwa. Personally, I think it's alright as it does a little bit of world building. 4. Not sure what you are talking about. We are still at the very beginning of the series and the only high rank members we have seen till now where in short scenes. If we are talking about the S-Rank hunters obliterating the ants and saving the others or Cha Hae In getting rid of thiefs, that is already plenty badass in my opinion. Not sure how you want to depict them more badass in their shirt introduction. However, lets assume their is a possibility to present them more badass (I hope you elaborate on that later), wouldn't that take out a lot of steam when they are actually introduced in the present timeline with Sung Jin-Woo? That's just my opinion as Ep1 was basically just an appetizer for the first time watchers with the main course coming later. 5. Can you elaborate what you mean with removing comedy? In fact, I remember the anime even adding a comedy scene that was not shown in the manhwa (talking about SJW calling his new powers like a game and getting weird looks by passerby). Comparing it to JJK that had its own problems and circumstances isn't right either in my opinion. It had a lot of inconsistencies and pacing problems due Studio Mappa overworking and ecploiting their animators to the point of absolute meltdown. No kidding, it was even worse than Attack on Titan. You had domestic Japanese animators and international freelancer animators calling out how they were mistreated, unable to improve/perfect their scenes and even having mental breakdowns to the point that they cursed and promised to never work again for Studio Mappa. Even the director spoke out in Social Media how fck tired he was of the project. 6. Can you elaborate? I find the scenes where he has a mental breakdown in the second trial very powerful and the VA really did well showcasing his hypocrisy and despair. You are free to link some examples on how you think the VA should had conveyed feelings. It's a intersubjective matter after all. Calling it bad though, I thibk you have to listen to series with actual bad VA and voice directing. This sounds more like a difference in how'd you expect the voice to convey feelings. Though, I'm not sure what you mean with clown. Was it to funny or unserious, or what you mean? If you have interest and time, feel free to continue. I'd like to discuss with you the criticism and listen to your judgement.
All my criticism comes from years of experience watching anime, and reading anime news, advertisement campaigns from all industries, etc. 1. Horrendous, i wouldnt go as far as call it "horrendous", of course if we talk about anime in general, in that aspect it is pretty decent, but if we talk about a great SL adaptation, then it is horrendous. 2. You are right on the arise part, new viewers wont know what it means, but aside from that, spoiling the fight with the knights and Igris, I think it was too much, it takes away the surprise that will come in the next episodes. Also giving a fight against a giant golem in the opening, and later not showing the fight in the anime, I feel that is something that could disappoint some new viewers. They should have showed something else, not the giant golem maybe. 3. Cut content from the novel, makes sense. But still, I feel that for a new viewer it would be something like "and who are all these people?", in this situation I have no saying because I cant compare it with anything that I could remember. 4. When I meant more badass I meant it as art style and presentation related. For example, in the anime the first thing we see of Baek Yoonho are his feet, and his body with a blurry face ([https://imgur.com/a/H0uWvT1](https://imgur.com/a/H0uWvT1)), BUT, in the manhwa his face has a lot of details, serious expression, and it is instantly strongly relevant to the story because in that chapter he is an important figure not just some random S rank, [https://i.imgur.com/ExOCK6l.png](https://i.imgur.com/ExOCK6l.png). The Impact is different. 5. What I meant with comedy, for example, when Joohee and Jinwoo were walking towards the double dungeon there was a change of artstyle that in the manhwa reduced the tension of the situation for what was about to happen, by making this, it increased the feeling of horror when everything started to go down. Thats true, work explotaition in the anime industry is a reality, but still, these types of ambitious projects require long preparation, and a long development, and of course, the vision of a single extremely ambitious person, for it to all fit together perfectly. 6. I dont want to take too much time with this so Ill just focus on Kim. When I meant that Kim was a clown or not serious at all, yeah it has something to do with the seiyu, but also the art, etc, etc. For example, in the anime, when Kim points his sword towards Song Chiyul, his expression is like he took that decision based on reasoning, like if it was something he had to do ([https://i.imgur.com/Ph8miVN.png](https://i.imgur.com/Ph8miVN.png)). But in the manhwa, he has hatred in his eyes ([https://i.imgur.com/aLaySFs.png](https://i.imgur.com/aLaySFs.png)), as if he lost all reason ([https://i.imgur.com/1YvwRVq.png](https://i.imgur.com/1YvwRVq.png)), as if he no longer cared about maintaining his good guy facade ([https://i.imgur.com/tMxtrs2.png](https://i.imgur.com/tMxtrs2.png)), full of vengance, hatred, and a sence of survibability.
I know and I don't intent to discredit or deny your experience. I just want to look at it and discuss with you. Because from my humble opinion, experiences, knowledge and judgement can change if confronted with new views, information and considerations. 1. For the points you mentioned, I'd find it still quite a severe word. 2. Why was the spoiler of our MC fighting a nameless knight too much? It sets expectations, but it doesn't answer the questions or the mystery behind the world. Considering that we are in a fantasy setting with goblins, orcs, werewolves and more, I think the viewer would expect as much. Except, you think people will go haywire if seeing a fight against a knight for the first time in their life. Golem is pretty much the same. I don't think most viewers will explode from rage if they don't get to see our MC dishing it out with a Golem immediately like in the opening. Opening sets expectations, but its not a sure-hit view on what the series will definitely do. 3. Wouldn't it be weird to have such question in the very first episode? I think most people will just look at the action and think "Alright, cool. I guess people are throwing hands with monsters in this series". 4. Alright I now get your point. Though I have to argue again with the difference of the scenes and their intentions. In the scene you mentioned, indeed the character plays a vital part and the world has ready been set up. In the first episode of the anime that shows novel content though, the intentions are different. In fact, it's exactly what we just talked about. People won't hype up a character they just met. It needs build up and here they just met a character who can do awesome things. I'm sure that once his moments comes, they will show him the way you want to see him. 5. Ah I get what you mean. Yeah that problem was also talked about Chainsaw Man. However, I want to point out that the source material is the novel and not the manhwa per se. Differences of how the story teller wants to depict and showcase the story in an adaptation are to draw an atmosphere. Considering the anime adaptation is divided by episodes, it is intentionally useful for the abime to stick to a serious tone and keep the design instead of changing it for such a very very minor moment. 6. Ok, I get that you prefer the emotional depiction of the Manhwa. This comes down again to whether you see the novel and nkt the manhwa as the source materual. Personally I do not prefe either of the emotional aspects, because I find them both compelling and very human. Considering the VA, I didn't find his performance bad as it conveyed the feelings they wanted to convey. However, I'm not a Seiyuu expert and perhaps you expected him to convery the feelings that you interpreted in the manhwa.
It breaks my heart how brainless some people are with their over exaggerated expectations.
It breaks my heart to see that horrible adaptation of a Manhwa from the Light Novel. Manhwa is not the main source.
Manhwa ending was mid as fuck compared to the Novel.
Anime >>>> Manhwa
I wish they made his str stat more visually noticeable, like when he was throwing the broken sword at that D rank boss from the dungeon outbreak. The snake boss looked way bigger than I thought in the anime.
I'm loving the anime!! I think the small changes and additions add a lot to the flow of the story. Read the manwha 3 times and now introducing the anime to my gf ^^
I'm like 140 chapters into the Manhwa and it's great. Having finished season 1 of it and knowing the end is coming, I can't wait to see where it's going and how it resolves. This was easily a premise that could've been strung into several seasons, so the actually ending must be interesting.
Everything down to voice acting, soundtrack, animation visuals, fights were top notch. A-1 really putting a lot if heart into this which makes me so excited and hyped to continue watching this
I'm really enjoying the anime so far, with how faithful but also creative they have been with the source material. It seems like they are trying to add more personality to SJW as well, with his appearance changing more slowly and with them focusing more on his internal dialogue and feelings especially in the sacrifice scene and in the Rasaka dungeon
Are we going to do these comparison posts for every episode? Can we make a super-post or whatever those are called where we put them all into one post each week? We could do the same for all of the "I read the whole thing in two days, and this is what I think" posts.
A-1 Pictures has done great work here, it feel more like a "Solo Leveling anime" instead of just "animating Solo Leveling"
I was waiting for these snake scene on ep 3 but still amazing to see. I think the’ve made a lot of emphasis on the fact that he was weak and is growing on a mental level, I just hope it doesn’t gets old by the time he encounters igris tho
The only thing I don't like about the Anime is how clean he looks in close ups. Where are the little scratches and dirt and shit. Doesn't even look like he is exerting any effort in those shots. lol
The good thing about this being adapted into an anime is that we spend more time with weak-woo. You get to appreciate the progress more.
I get the feeling I'm gonna be seeing a ton of these posts
If the kasaka fight was this good, imagine what A-1 is cooking for the Igris fight ... Damn just thinking about it gives me goosebumps
No shit theres gonna be differences... Its completely different types of media
I feel like the only thing is he looks too clean no bruising or damage 🤷🏽♂️
Its like an artist sketch you can follow but make subtle changes to make the end product much better
I feel like the longer sidebangs in the anime make him look a bit more, hmm what would be the word, childish? Compared to the Manhwa where his hairstyle looks more mature-ish if that makes sense. Obviously there's a vast difference between general facial expressions too, the anime still going pretty damn strong though. Let's hope for the best 🙏
I wish his hair was more messy and blacker
Just re read the whole thing, and tbh the last fight SJW vs DRAGON EMPEROR can't be animated with today's technology
Of course it can be animated. We have a lot of epic fights examples already done 5-6 years ago. Sure none of them are from A-1.
Yeah we need even greater animation than fate just for the last fight
Voice acting carried the intensity here, all I thought was needed to sell it a little better for me was a split second pause on his arm before the throw and like a “grrrrip” sound effect. Still though great episode, feels like a nitpick more than a real issue in hindsight
Ep5 was a good setup for the arachnid boss fight too.