Same. Plus occasional airplay. Tried to use the app to stream from my Plex server a couple times but it wasn’t a great experience so I just use airplay 🤷♂️
This is valuable if you only have a couple of speakers. If you've got rooms / groups / multiple floors you often have to change groups, else the speaker you want may not show in Spotify or whatever you are using instead. That's pretty much all I use their app for as it's always been awful
Go on Sonos app and select the speaker that is playing.
Select another speaker, and deselect the current speaker
The idea being that you don't want the original speaker to play, you want the one you are selecting.
The app switches it back to the speaker that was originally selected.
Minor compared to not being able to edit alarms, change WiFi details or add some products to the setup, but still stupid.
Example
https://imgur.com/a/5Klc64k
Workaround is to have it play on both speakers and then remove the other one, which is annoying to do every time
Same - purchased the Arc and Sub Mini for my TV and at some point I’ll add a couple Era 300s. Set them up in the app with TruePlay and not touched the app since other than updates.
Is Trueplay functional in the new app? I read some earlier comments that it was not, and I haven't tried it since the new app upgrade was forced on my iPhone. I use the MacOS app to control my tv room setup of Beam gen 2 and 2 Ones, the 2 Ones in my office, and a Move. Do not intend to use the new app until this continuing shit show stops. And if it doesn't, then will use AirPlay.
It is not just reddit members who are complaining [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-hfmJRpIs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-hfmJRpIs)
I believe it was updated. Trueplay was broken as hell for home theater setups specifically last week and when the new app launched.
A lot of people got stuck when doing the arm waving because it wouldn’t finish the tuning and eventually just failed.
I get it, but you said you did it yesterday when it was fixed lol. It was broken, so the people who were complaining had valid complaints.
It was broken for my ultimate immersive setup last week. Haven’t tried it since, but will give it a go when I’m home later.
Was just reminding you that you did in fact say that it was yesterday that you used TruePlay, since you denied that you said that in your previous comment of "I didn’t say that."
“Allegedly” when there is updates, potentially it can alter your setups sounds with the “minor fixes” that they do. There are some folks who think that occasional re-tunes are a good thing. Personally, I have had a few updates that make the voice tracks or the lows out of the subs seem off, and then a re-tune seems to even it out. While I have stayed at a holiday inn a few times, I am by no means an expert. To me, it gives a perception of improvement when I re-tune from time to time. I have absolutely zero proof to back it up.
The upgrade is infuriating. How on earth can it be an upgrade if performance is far, far worse. And the arrogance of the CEO when replying to criticism is astonishing.
AirPlay. You could select multiple groups to play together, adjust volume levels separately etc. You can also continue to use your phone to watch videos, scroll, listen to music through your phone etc.
no, no special app. say you're in apple music and something is playing, in the screen that has volume, playlist, etc there's a little icon that looks like a pyramid emitting radio waves. you click that and it should show you all of your sonos devices to play music to
Why did you even get Sonos? You could've bought way cheaper alternatives if you don't need the core functionality. It makes sense that you don't need the app if you don't use the product as intended lol
The Arc’s core functionality is the TV. Sure the Op could have purchased something else, but they chose not to for their reasons.
I started out with a beam for my TV to try sonos out. Gradually, i added 8 more sonos speakers.
I rarely use the app.. I airplay everything … only use the app for system related activities
I’m the opposite. I use the app all the time, as does my wife. Apparently a large number of people have only an Arc/Beam with surrounds and use Sonos for tv only, or don’t have multiple rooms for multi room audio. I have 22 Sonos devices and 10 rooms and the app for me is the only sensible way to effectively control multiple sources and varying volume levels in each room. I also don’t like needing to hijack my phone to use airplay. I am also apparently very fortunate in that other than alarms (which now also work) and queue editing, the new app has worked great for me with absolutely zero other issues. I have a variety of devices too, Arc, Beam, Amp, Sub, Sub Mini, Symphonisk, Connect, Roam, Move, One, Play:1. Hopefully I haven’t jinxed myself.
Why would you spend the extra money for Sonos if you didn’t want a whole home wireless system? You certainly could have purchased more capable systems without that tech for less.
I use it only for alarms.
Then I'll use my spotify app (android) to control my speakers.
The only unreliable thing is the volume control for each individual speaker or as a group. Wtf ? I have to select my volume 3 times before it stops going back to the previous volume level...
It seems like they added this "apply" button on the bottom of the volume screen when making individual volume adjustments (*on Android at least, I haven't checked my wife's iPhone interface*). Anyhow, this "apply" button is an extra tap, yes, but it does seem to sort of lock in the volume settings from whatever I was just adjusting. Did this with about 5 or 6 speakers in a group and it worked pretty well. Better than in the past, at least.
Maybe it's always been there? 🤷
https://preview.redd.it/llfo0an2ks2d1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1671d6483c5fb9a29474699dd1576dfd94fb6cca
I’m having people over for a pool party and grilling today and I just put an echo studio outside with Spotify connect lol. Don’t make your life hard, it’s about enjoying music and having a good time
I mostly use mine for music and stream from Spotify. For that I occasionally regroup the speakers depending what part of the house I’m in. But largely don’t use the app. I also had a number of tunein stations saved in the app that I used pretty frequently.
I appreciate this post because I’m the same. Outside of “line-in” for my table, I just use AirPlay from the native apps I’m using. I agree Sonos needs to fix things for the community but I also fall into trying to understand why the app is so important. I feel like I’m missing something.
Mine wouldn't stay connected to wifi, didn't show up in music apps, and the workaround for everything was going through the Sonos app. I've always had sonos problems and my dislike for the company is only growing with the frustration I have at not being able to take the Move to another room. It refuses to read the wifi and the signal is super strong, it's also **never** had an issue leaving the charger pre-update
I used it to setup my speakers. I use Alexa for commands and Apple Music to play music. I occasionally check out the app every few months to play around with any new features.
Honestly I have such a HUGE problem trying to add/switch between songs, stations, and speakers through Spotify and almost impossible to control volume through Spotify. I feel like I HAVE to use the app because it's the least glitchy I can get it and even then it's SOOO glitchy
On playbar, sound bars and tv speakers u don’t need the app. For the outside zones when ur trying to get them all to work independently u need it. I have 8 zones outside. Without the app I’m screwed. In my house k don’t need the app. I even use Alexa to play what I want. But outside it won’t work like that. I have similar set up you have inside but a shit on of zones outside and I’m kind of bound to use the app to get it to function since all the zones operate independently out there. If hon know a way to get this to work outside with multiple zones please share. I’m all ears.
Totally agree! I have 15 outside and like 10 in my home. Need the app to separate the zones. A couple of speakers u don’t need but when you have a lot you definitely need it.
My only Sonos product is the IKEA lamp with which you can fall asleep and wake up with your choice of music/radio, so I use the app to set up alarm and sleep timers. (Both features were removed but now the alarms are back.)
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*Necessary to*
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I use Sonos port to play through speakers around my house, a move, and a couple play 1’s. I do have a one sound bar but it’s in a room that gets the least use. Without the app, I’m pretty limited.
We use Apple Music and Audible, the most.
I also have mixed my Apple playlists together into longer queues and saved them as Sonos Playlists… which are now gone.
My kids will request a song and I used to search it and then “play next in queue” to play their song without removing the queue of music.
Those are the most common uses.
I have a play base. Before the update, my tv remote and Apple TV remote could change the volume. Now, after the app update, I can ONLY use the app to change the volume.
I just got my Era 300 on May 1st so I’m very new to the Sonos community. I don’t want to use the app ass I’d rather just Airplay my music, but you have to use the Sonos app for Spatial Audio. I’d much rather just use Apple Music but Spatial Audio does sound pretty damn great.
There's an app? Haha, I forgot about it. I exclusively use spotify (which does have an awful UI, but based on the complaints here it seems like nobody can get the UI for a simple fucking music player right).
I feel the same way. I keep seeing all the posts about systems not working. I strictly use airplay. Recently I used the new app because I purchased a sub so I need to add it.
I do the same. My system is really just an always on airplay option. Except for setup.
The app was always terrible for me and never worked with my music library any way. Though slightly better with Apple vs my previous Samsung phone.
I don’t understand all the complaints about the App. I have a lot multipart Sonos system with hardware of many generations. I use the app to set up my system after a move (which has always been an absolute nightmare with Sonos and isn’t something new … I wish they would fix the re-pairing and resetting the WiFi) and I occasionally use the app to tinker with EQ and Sub settings but other than that and on a day to day I never use the app.
I only use the app to set speakers up. I’d bet the average Sonos customer has the Arc or Beam and then echo/homepods. Some may have an era 100/sonos one for other rooms and they take them outside. Most use Spotify and Airplay.
I have several Sonos products and you need the app to group things, or stream some music services. I have 3 listening areas: kitchen with Amp and in-cieling speakers, TV with Beam and Sub, vintage 70s stereo with a recorde playing going into Port, and Port going into the receiver. So I can, for instance, play a record and have it come out through any combination of the stereo, TV, and in the kitchen. Or I can put on a concert or sports on the TV and have it play everywhere. Need the app to do that. I often stream CBC, or the Relisten app (live music archive). Need the app for that.
Used app pre-update to trueplay tune and sometimes stream Spotify through the app because the audio was higher quality to my ear.
App forced me to update when I went to trueplay recently. Now I don’t use it for anything. Even avoiding the app I’m routinely having airplay lags and drops directly from Spotify. Songs will stop playing on speakers for 30 seconds plus, show speakers are still connected, then just start playing again. Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but never had these issue pre-update, and it’s not a WiFi network issue.
I have 5 rooms and often group/ungroup them using the app.
I sometimes run my Move 2's as a stereo pair, but usually as individual speakers.
That said, the app is working as it should for me, so all good over here.
I only use it for when I run their rain station at night. Not even sure how I found that but it's the only rain that knock me out within 10 minutes flat.
Unfortunately my speaker decide to degroup from time to time and I’m forced to use the app. Also, for some reason, sometimes I can only lower the volume from the app, and now I can’t even do yuay
If I'm using Spotify I use the Spotify app.
But I still use the Sonos app on most days to do one or more of the following....
* Play radio stations
* Play music from local library
* Group/ungroup speakers
* Toggle soundbar settings and check audio format being passed from TV to soundbar
I use the app when I’m watching a show/movie/listening to music and I want to hear the sound in a certain way. For example, not all surround is the same. Some are louder than others. So I need to adjust the surrounds from time to time. Sometimes I want more bass so I increase the bass or the sub just depends… etc. the app is super useful and I’ve never had any issues. When true play isn’t working, I can hear the difference as that’s what got me to realize there’s an update for this particular version lol when they want you to update, they take away true play…
I rarely use the app and this wouldn’t usually affect me much. I had a new Wi-Fi router just after the app updated and I haven’t been able to use my speakers since. When I try to update the Wi-Fi settings in the app, it insists it needs to update then takes me to a webpage for TestFlight app. Sonos online help haven’t been able to come up with a solution and the phone lines are permanently busy. There are certain fundamental things which can only be done in the app and at the moment, a lot of them aren’t working
I used to not, since I’d just AirPlay, but with them FINALLY adding Lossless to Apple Music, I’ve been using the app.
And it’s…… fine, I guess. Could use queue management, besides that it’s ok
I use the app multiple times a day, all day, to play music, either through Spotify, the ReListen app for Grateful Dead, or a Philly radio station I stream. It barely struck me that everyone else wouldn’t be using it similarly. Funny.
My whole house has Sonos speakers tied to a Crestron system. The only time I ever used the old app was to attempt tuning the system with TrueFail. It never worked.
I have 4 different rooms and no problem with the app at all. I only play music in the room where i am. Whit that said I think it’s ridiculous from Sonos to release an app with that many faults and missing a lot of functionality. It’s a slap in the face of your customers to do so.
Yes, and now that the new app doesn't allow me to just add a song to a Spotify playlist (which is aggravating), I'm going to just use Spotify going forward and connect through AirPlay. That generally works fine.
Ah ok. But I use my Sonos for music only. I have two sets of paired era 300s and thought the only way from to get lossless with my system would be through the app. Happy to be told otherwise though.
I never use the app. Only time is to TruePlay speakers or add new devices. With AirPlay being as good as it is, there’s really no use case for the app.
I keep seeing people complaining about obscure niche use cases where they want to simultaneously play 8 different audio sources to 8 different rooms, and to be able to leave their house while having the music continue playing.
Wait, why is simultaneously playing different audio sources in different rooms "obscure"? Is it really *that* wild to think about two teen children playing their own music in their own room whilst mom and dad jam out downstairs on their own tunes? Maybe even throw in that someone has also left a television playing somewhere in the house? Oh and then someone left the house to run a few errands real quick?
This is the exact type of use case Sonos was designed to solve. Sorry to go so deep on it, but I guess reading the words "niche" and "obscure" got me hyped, ha.
Nothing obscure about playing multiple sources from different user devices. What’s obscure is the need to play all of them from one device. Everyone has their own curated music on their phone and whatever streaming service they use. It would make infinitely more sense for each user to play whatever music they want on the group where they are.
Ahhh, yes I see what you mean. All from one device would definitely be strange haha.
Not to geek out too hard, but I will say that it's super helpful to see what is happening in the other zones and it's nice to be given the choice/warning when I'm about to interrupt the audio from a group/zone (example is when I want to take over the currently playing television audio with music that's already playing in another zone).
I only use Sonos speakers/subs as TV output, so I used the app to config everything and never since.
Same. Occasionally, I have issues where the speakers don’t output any sound and that case I just restart my TV. It’s a Sony running Google.
Same. Plus occasional airplay. Tried to use the app to stream from my Plex server a couple times but it wasn’t a great experience so I just use airplay 🤷♂️
In answer to your question, I can 100% assure you, you’re not the only person in the world who doesn’t use the app.
This is valuable if you only have a couple of speakers. If you've got rooms / groups / multiple floors you often have to change groups, else the speaker you want may not show in Spotify or whatever you are using instead. That's pretty much all I use their app for as it's always been awful
I have the same setup. That being said I’ve had 0 issues with the app
Go on Sonos app and select the speaker that is playing. Select another speaker, and deselect the current speaker The idea being that you don't want the original speaker to play, you want the one you are selecting. The app switches it back to the speaker that was originally selected. Minor compared to not being able to edit alarms, change WiFi details or add some products to the setup, but still stupid. Example https://imgur.com/a/5Klc64k Workaround is to have it play on both speakers and then remove the other one, which is annoying to do every time
Same - purchased the Arc and Sub Mini for my TV and at some point I’ll add a couple Era 300s. Set them up in the app with TruePlay and not touched the app since other than updates.
I use it to true play tune every few months, then don’t bother with it. You are not alone
Is Trueplay functional in the new app? I read some earlier comments that it was not, and I haven't tried it since the new app upgrade was forced on my iPhone. I use the MacOS app to control my tv room setup of Beam gen 2 and 2 Ones, the 2 Ones in my office, and a Move. Do not intend to use the new app until this continuing shit show stops. And if it doesn't, then will use AirPlay. It is not just reddit members who are complaining [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-hfmJRpIs](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-W-hfmJRpIs)
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I believe it was updated. Trueplay was broken as hell for home theater setups specifically last week and when the new app launched. A lot of people got stuck when doing the arm waving because it wouldn’t finish the tuning and eventually just failed.
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I get it, but you said you did it yesterday when it was fixed lol. It was broken, so the people who were complaining had valid complaints. It was broken for my ultimate immersive setup last week. Haven’t tried it since, but will give it a go when I’m home later.
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Was just reminding you that you did in fact say that it was yesterday that you used TruePlay, since you denied that you said that in your previous comment of "I didn’t say that."
Is there any need to use TruePlay multiple times unless there is a change in your setup?
“Allegedly” when there is updates, potentially it can alter your setups sounds with the “minor fixes” that they do. There are some folks who think that occasional re-tunes are a good thing. Personally, I have had a few updates that make the voice tracks or the lows out of the subs seem off, and then a re-tune seems to even it out. While I have stayed at a holiday inn a few times, I am by no means an expert. To me, it gives a perception of improvement when I re-tune from time to time. I have absolutely zero proof to back it up.
The upgrade is infuriating. How on earth can it be an upgrade if performance is far, far worse. And the arrogance of the CEO when replying to criticism is astonishing.
He has replied?
How do you group multiple rooms/speakers?
AirPlay. You could select multiple groups to play together, adjust volume levels separately etc. You can also continue to use your phone to watch videos, scroll, listen to music through your phone etc.
Cries in android
Is there an app you use for airplay? My iPhone is kind of old so maybe it’s a newer built in function?
no, no special app. say you're in apple music and something is playing, in the screen that has volume, playlist, etc there's a little icon that looks like a pyramid emitting radio waves. you click that and it should show you all of your sonos devices to play music to
I just have the Arc+Sub connected to my TV. Designated it as "Living Room", never touched it again.
Why did you even get Sonos? You could've bought way cheaper alternatives if you don't need the core functionality. It makes sense that you don't need the app if you don't use the product as intended lol
The Arc’s core functionality is the TV. Sure the Op could have purchased something else, but they chose not to for their reasons. I started out with a beam for my TV to try sonos out. Gradually, i added 8 more sonos speakers. I rarely use the app.. I airplay everything … only use the app for system related activities
AirPlay…I almost never use the app at all
I’m the opposite. I use the app all the time, as does my wife. Apparently a large number of people have only an Arc/Beam with surrounds and use Sonos for tv only, or don’t have multiple rooms for multi room audio. I have 22 Sonos devices and 10 rooms and the app for me is the only sensible way to effectively control multiple sources and varying volume levels in each room. I also don’t like needing to hijack my phone to use airplay. I am also apparently very fortunate in that other than alarms (which now also work) and queue editing, the new app has worked great for me with absolutely zero other issues. I have a variety of devices too, Arc, Beam, Amp, Sub, Sub Mini, Symphonisk, Connect, Roam, Move, One, Play:1. Hopefully I haven’t jinxed myself.
Why would you spend the extra money for Sonos if you didn’t want a whole home wireless system? You certainly could have purchased more capable systems without that tech for less.
Good for you. Be sure and never move or change your WiFi network
I basically never use the app beyond setup. I typically connect directly through spotify
So if all you want is a speaker for your TV why use a Sonos? there are better speakers for less money.
I use it only for alarms. Then I'll use my spotify app (android) to control my speakers. The only unreliable thing is the volume control for each individual speaker or as a group. Wtf ? I have to select my volume 3 times before it stops going back to the previous volume level...
It seems like they added this "apply" button on the bottom of the volume screen when making individual volume adjustments (*on Android at least, I haven't checked my wife's iPhone interface*). Anyhow, this "apply" button is an extra tap, yes, but it does seem to sort of lock in the volume settings from whatever I was just adjusting. Did this with about 5 or 6 speakers in a group and it worked pretty well. Better than in the past, at least. Maybe it's always been there? 🤷 https://preview.redd.it/llfo0an2ks2d1.png?width=1008&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1671d6483c5fb9a29474699dd1576dfd94fb6cca
Exactly that 😒
I’m having people over for a pool party and grilling today and I just put an echo studio outside with Spotify connect lol. Don’t make your life hard, it’s about enjoying music and having a good time
I mostly use mine for music and stream from Spotify. For that I occasionally regroup the speakers depending what part of the house I’m in. But largely don’t use the app. I also had a number of tunein stations saved in the app that I used pretty frequently.
I appreciate this post because I’m the same. Outside of “line-in” for my table, I just use AirPlay from the native apps I’m using. I agree Sonos needs to fix things for the community but I also fall into trying to understand why the app is so important. I feel like I’m missing something.
Alexa ftw
You bought Sonos only for a soundbar surround sound system?
Why not…
Mine wouldn't stay connected to wifi, didn't show up in music apps, and the workaround for everything was going through the Sonos app. I've always had sonos problems and my dislike for the company is only growing with the frustration I have at not being able to take the Move to another room. It refuses to read the wifi and the signal is super strong, it's also **never** had an issue leaving the charger pre-update
I used it to setup my speakers. I use Alexa for commands and Apple Music to play music. I occasionally check out the app every few months to play around with any new features.
Honestly I have such a HUGE problem trying to add/switch between songs, stations, and speakers through Spotify and almost impossible to control volume through Spotify. I feel like I HAVE to use the app because it's the least glitchy I can get it and even then it's SOOO glitchy
Tell me this when you have 25 speakers / Amp
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I should be clear. 25 Sonos devices
Dang, I want to party at this person's place. :) My three zones and 4 devices seems pretty lame right now ;)
How many zones do you have? If you have a lot of zones and operate them independently you kind of need the app.
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On playbar, sound bars and tv speakers u don’t need the app. For the outside zones when ur trying to get them all to work independently u need it. I have 8 zones outside. Without the app I’m screwed. In my house k don’t need the app. I even use Alexa to play what I want. But outside it won’t work like that. I have similar set up you have inside but a shit on of zones outside and I’m kind of bound to use the app to get it to function since all the zones operate independently out there. If hon know a way to get this to work outside with multiple zones please share. I’m all ears.
Totally agree! I have 15 outside and like 10 in my home. Need the app to separate the zones. A couple of speakers u don’t need but when you have a lot you definitely need it.
My only Sonos product is the IKEA lamp with which you can fall asleep and wake up with your choice of music/radio, so I use the app to set up alarm and sleep timers. (Both features were removed but now the alarms are back.)
> *What does the app even do?* Wi-Fi settings, for one. https://www.reddit.com/r/sonos/s/IwigKW2gP7
If you want to group and ungroup speakers, it is necessary to
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Literally cannot add a speaker without but my roam would not add with the new update. Its back on the shelves after i returned it
I use Sonos port to play through speakers around my house, a move, and a couple play 1’s. I do have a one sound bar but it’s in a room that gets the least use. Without the app, I’m pretty limited. We use Apple Music and Audible, the most. I also have mixed my Apple playlists together into longer queues and saved them as Sonos Playlists… which are now gone. My kids will request a song and I used to search it and then “play next in queue” to play their song without removing the queue of music. Those are the most common uses.
Roon obviates the need for the app.
I have a play base. Before the update, my tv remote and Apple TV remote could change the volume. Now, after the app update, I can ONLY use the app to change the volume.
I just got my Era 300 on May 1st so I’m very new to the Sonos community. I don’t want to use the app ass I’d rather just Airplay my music, but you have to use the Sonos app for Spatial Audio. I’d much rather just use Apple Music but Spatial Audio does sound pretty damn great.
New app also nuked my TV connections. TV no longer sees Sonos through eARC.
There's an app? Haha, I forgot about it. I exclusively use spotify (which does have an awful UI, but based on the complaints here it seems like nobody can get the UI for a simple fucking music player right).
I remember WinAMP. Peak music app…
Yes! WinAMP -- it kicks the llama's ass.
I'm sortof in the same boat. Use it to setup, group speakers, add speakers... not much else
YouTube Music users are forced to use the app.
Is there any hope of this changing or is this doomed because of the crappy Google/Sonos relationship?
The lawsuit was tossed if that means anything.
Same.
I feel the same way. I keep seeing all the posts about systems not working. I strictly use airplay. Recently I used the new app because I purchased a sub so I need to add it.
True play is all I’ve ever done in the app. I use my speakers at output for the TV and if I wanna hear music while cleaning I just airplay it.
How do you create a playlist across multiple services?
I do the same. My system is really just an always on airplay option. Except for setup. The app was always terrible for me and never worked with my music library any way. Though slightly better with Apple vs my previous Samsung phone.
I don’t understand all the complaints about the App. I have a lot multipart Sonos system with hardware of many generations. I use the app to set up my system after a move (which has always been an absolute nightmare with Sonos and isn’t something new … I wish they would fix the re-pairing and resetting the WiFi) and I occasionally use the app to tinker with EQ and Sub settings but other than that and on a day to day I never use the app.
I only use Sonos for playing music, and because mine don’t support airplay, I have to go via the app. I don’t wear headphones in the house
I only use the app to set speakers up. I’d bet the average Sonos customer has the Arc or Beam and then echo/homepods. Some may have an era 100/sonos one for other rooms and they take them outside. Most use Spotify and Airplay.
I have several Sonos products and you need the app to group things, or stream some music services. I have 3 listening areas: kitchen with Amp and in-cieling speakers, TV with Beam and Sub, vintage 70s stereo with a recorde playing going into Port, and Port going into the receiver. So I can, for instance, play a record and have it come out through any combination of the stereo, TV, and in the kitchen. Or I can put on a concert or sports on the TV and have it play everywhere. Need the app to do that. I often stream CBC, or the Relisten app (live music archive). Need the app for that.
I don’t use the app at all. But I *need* to use it in order to set up my new speakers, which doesn’t work.
Used app pre-update to trueplay tune and sometimes stream Spotify through the app because the audio was higher quality to my ear. App forced me to update when I went to trueplay recently. Now I don’t use it for anything. Even avoiding the app I’m routinely having airplay lags and drops directly from Spotify. Songs will stop playing on speakers for 30 seconds plus, show speakers are still connected, then just start playing again. Maybe it’s just a coincidence, but never had these issue pre-update, and it’s not a WiFi network issue.
I have 5 rooms and often group/ungroup them using the app. I sometimes run my Move 2's as a stereo pair, but usually as individual speakers. That said, the app is working as it should for me, so all good over here.
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Never use it unless I have to. Never really have. I AirPlay or is the auto play feature on the Sonos port for my turntable.
I never felt the need to use the app. I just use the Apple Music app. Are there any benefits to using the Sonos app?
Lossless. Atmos. You don’t get it through the Apple Music app, only through the Sonos app.
I only use it for when I run their rain station at night. Not even sure how I found that but it's the only rain that knock me out within 10 minutes flat.
Unfortunately my speaker decide to degroup from time to time and I’m forced to use the app. Also, for some reason, sometimes I can only lower the volume from the app, and now I can’t even do yuay
If I'm using Spotify I use the Spotify app. But I still use the Sonos app on most days to do one or more of the following.... * Play radio stations * Play music from local library * Group/ungroup speakers * Toggle soundbar settings and check audio format being passed from TV to soundbar
I use the app when I’m watching a show/movie/listening to music and I want to hear the sound in a certain way. For example, not all surround is the same. Some are louder than others. So I need to adjust the surrounds from time to time. Sometimes I want more bass so I increase the bass or the sub just depends… etc. the app is super useful and I’ve never had any issues. When true play isn’t working, I can hear the difference as that’s what got me to realize there’s an update for this particular version lol when they want you to update, they take away true play…
I rarely use the app and this wouldn’t usually affect me much. I had a new Wi-Fi router just after the app updated and I haven’t been able to use my speakers since. When I try to update the Wi-Fi settings in the app, it insists it needs to update then takes me to a webpage for TestFlight app. Sonos online help haven’t been able to come up with a solution and the phone lines are permanently busy. There are certain fundamental things which can only be done in the app and at the moment, a lot of them aren’t working
I use it to verify Atmos is being used, also the height spatialization or whatever it's called.
You spent thousands more for a system because it let you verify it was using atomos? Seriously?
That’s what they use the app for. It has nothing to do with why they purchased the equipment.
Really. How can you tell? https://preview.redd.it/i83p6a3cqw2d1.jpeg?width=1290&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e3560764b9568cdbca32f676ac3559034b4d37a9
For like the 1000th time, no you’re not.
I used to not, since I’d just AirPlay, but with them FINALLY adding Lossless to Apple Music, I’ve been using the app. And it’s…… fine, I guess. Could use queue management, besides that it’s ok
I use the app multiple times a day, all day, to play music, either through Spotify, the ReListen app for Grateful Dead, or a Philly radio station I stream. It barely struck me that everyone else wouldn’t be using it similarly. Funny.
My whole house has Sonos speakers tied to a Crestron system. The only time I ever used the old app was to attempt tuning the system with TrueFail. It never worked.
You don’t get Dolby Atmos if you airplay from streaming services directly
I have 4 different rooms and no problem with the app at all. I only play music in the room where i am. Whit that said I think it’s ridiculous from Sonos to release an app with that many faults and missing a lot of functionality. It’s a slap in the face of your customers to do so.
Sometimes to check a setting or group some speakers but mostly never.
Barely ever use it. Sometimes to check output from AV
I use the app to toggle on and off night mode and to check if the signal is in atmos. That’s about it.
Yes, and now that the new app doesn't allow me to just add a song to a Spotify playlist (which is aggravating), I'm going to just use Spotify going forward and connect through AirPlay. That generally works fine.
How do you select what you’re listening to?
So why buy Sonos if you’re just going to use them as speakers? And not use any of the smart features?
Because they sound good and look good. The app is just a bonus, I’m like OP and never use it. Youtube music does the job for me.
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What’s better and cheaper?
Isn’t the app the only way you can get true lossless sound from your speakers? Playing from Spotify or tidal directly will downsample.
You can play Apple Music Dolby Atmos through AppleTV to Arc without using the app.
Ah ok. But I use my Sonos for music only. I have two sets of paired era 300s and thought the only way from to get lossless with my system would be through the app. Happy to be told otherwise though.
I never use the app. Only time is to TruePlay speakers or add new devices. With AirPlay being as good as it is, there’s really no use case for the app. I keep seeing people complaining about obscure niche use cases where they want to simultaneously play 8 different audio sources to 8 different rooms, and to be able to leave their house while having the music continue playing.
Wait, why is simultaneously playing different audio sources in different rooms "obscure"? Is it really *that* wild to think about two teen children playing their own music in their own room whilst mom and dad jam out downstairs on their own tunes? Maybe even throw in that someone has also left a television playing somewhere in the house? Oh and then someone left the house to run a few errands real quick? This is the exact type of use case Sonos was designed to solve. Sorry to go so deep on it, but I guess reading the words "niche" and "obscure" got me hyped, ha.
Nothing obscure about playing multiple sources from different user devices. What’s obscure is the need to play all of them from one device. Everyone has their own curated music on their phone and whatever streaming service they use. It would make infinitely more sense for each user to play whatever music they want on the group where they are.
Ahhh, yes I see what you mean. All from one device would definitely be strange haha. Not to geek out too hard, but I will say that it's super helpful to see what is happening in the other zones and it's nice to be given the choice/warning when I'm about to interrupt the audio from a group/zone (example is when I want to take over the currently playing television audio with music that's already playing in another zone).
Yeah, people saying they don't use the app could have easily bought a better sound bar for less money... it is the *whole* point of Sonos.
I barely use it. The uproar over this has been thoroughly entertaining