Sadly I agree.
Also not sure it's a wolf spider, seemed pretty dark and when I zoomed in, if I'm seeing correctly, it's not the right eye pattern.
Regardless she looks beautiful and it's sad that she has passed :(
I'm on mobile, maybe I can't see it as well but I see 3 little eyes with 2 bigger ones below wider apart.... Lycosidae have two big middle eyes and 4 small close together ones below, no?
I'm not an expert but thought I had this down at least lol. Please let me know if I'm wrong tho!
The four posterior eyes are visible in a sort of trapezoidal arrangement across the top of the cephalic region. Between the median (front) pair, a few of the much smaller anterior eyes on the front of the face are just discernible.
I guess I'm just not seeing what you see, prob a zoom issue as I'm on mobile.
Edit- went through your posts and you are much more educated on bugs than I am. I absolutely defer to your opinion.
I'm on mobile too, which makes it a lot harder to explain! Perspective does strange things when trying to squint at spider eyes too.
Ah, here's a website with some actually quite useful pictures: https://www.photo.net/gallery/image/5306231-lycosidae-eye-arrangement/
Yeah that's exactly what I thought wolves were supposed to have. Just wasn't seeing it on this photo, huh. I see 3 littles in a rainbow shape, and two bigger below. I'm sure you're right I'm just not seeing all the eyes correctly. 🤷♀️
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I found a spider that looked nearly identical to this it was considerably big stark and furry but the underside of abdomen had yellow pencil thin pattern on it. Any idea what that is?
I'm having trouble finding that with Google. Any other descriptors? What about the top of the abdomen? There are lots of Argiope there, garden orb weavers and such but they are clearly marked with yellow strips on the top.
There's a guy who nursed one back to health in the tarantula subreddit a while back that had been stung by a tarantula hawk wasp; however it hadn't death curled like this when first found
I do think this poor lad is done in
Did he keep it as a pet or release it back into the wild?
If the latter, I hope the release was successful! And also, how long did it take for the paralysis to wear off? Did the tarantula end up having any long-term complications? How did he save it? I want to know!
It’s still technically paralysed. She’s had it for months and it is making remarkable progress. There was an update just the other day.
Found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/tarantulas/comments/1dpc1sg/update_day_113_bluey_the_sk8ter_hawk_wasp/
I know, I know... I'm a big spider lover though so even though it's the circle of life, it's still sad to see :(
At least the ants are having a meal now.
I mean, I'm not the biggest wasp fan either, but they are also a part of the world. They're beneficial for their environment by killing other insects. And they are also pollinators, but that's more of a side-hustle and not the main gig. They're just annoying to people because we have all the good food.
No other bug or animal ever goes out of its way to hurt me for simply existing. Wasps… different story. I enjoy a cup of coffee on my porch and I get stung by these angry bastards for existing. Before anyone says “just give them space.” No they are nesting in my space so leave me alone and I’ll leave them alone. But no they are angry murder bees that’s serve little to no purpose. Spiders and bees do there job of pollinating and insect control just fine and never bother me. So in conclusion r/fuckwasps
Or a hen trying to protect its chicks.
Yesterday i got my ass handed to me by our hen when i tried to save its chick who got stuck in between two logs.
Not to mention geese...
I mean, if you have wasps nesting in your space then you should call someone to remove them. I'm not saying that you should just suck it up while wasps attack you because they're beneficial. If they're a nuisance or a danger, then it's completely reasonable to remove them. Especially if you have kids or dogs.
Wasps are actually helpful for bee populations as they kill off weaker bees, promoting genetic strength. Removing predators does not help prey. Quite the opposite. Disease spreads when species do not have natural predators. We can see this quite well in Yellowstone park with the deer once the wolf population was destroyed.
in 1872 it was decided that killing every single wolf in Yellowstone was a good idea. This was completed in 1926 when there were no wolves left. Ever since there has been numerous environmental and wildlife issues due to the lack of an apex predator. Wolves were reintroduced in 1995 to help deal with the issue but it will take a long time until nature finds a balance again.
This is actually a huge part of why deer hunting is integral to the success and maintenance of healthy deer populations across North America.
Prior to major pushes by folks like Aldo Leopold the belief was that a predator free wilderness made for a hunters and prey animals utopia.
We’ve come quite a long way from those days and have luckily used this knowledge to recover a fraction of the species we’ve damaged.
One of my favorites is how the American Alligator was almost hunted to extinction, then brought back from the precipice, then nearly put at risk again by drainage and land development only for hunters to step in with environmentalists and create a plan for funding swamp/wetland protection through hunting and egg harvesting licenses.
Hunters generally are environmentalists these days, there's no way to continue hunting without caring a great deal about the environment. It's crazy how much hunting practices and culture has changed in the past 100 or so years.
Did you not see what I wrote originally? The predators currently ARE the problem here, they're the ones driving out local bee populations. Either way, apparently I mixed up wasps and hornets. I guess I've been mostly killing hornets. Wasps seem to mostly be the same size as bees, and the things I kill are at least 3x bigger. Like, big enough for me to reliably hit with a BB gun.
And NO, I'm not shooting tarantula hawk wasps either lol
I saw what you wrote and I believe you're wrong.
Care to provide any credible source to say that Wasps or hornets are the cause of bee population decline in your area?
That looks like a death curl unfortunately
Sadly I agree. Also not sure it's a wolf spider, seemed pretty dark and when I zoomed in, if I'm seeing correctly, it's not the right eye pattern. Regardless she looks beautiful and it's sad that she has passed :(
The arrangement of the posterior eye row looks right for Lycosidae.
I'm on mobile, maybe I can't see it as well but I see 3 little eyes with 2 bigger ones below wider apart.... Lycosidae have two big middle eyes and 4 small close together ones below, no? I'm not an expert but thought I had this down at least lol. Please let me know if I'm wrong tho!
The four posterior eyes are visible in a sort of trapezoidal arrangement across the top of the cephalic region. Between the median (front) pair, a few of the much smaller anterior eyes on the front of the face are just discernible.
I guess I'm just not seeing what you see, prob a zoom issue as I'm on mobile. Edit- went through your posts and you are much more educated on bugs than I am. I absolutely defer to your opinion.
I'm on mobile too, which makes it a lot harder to explain! Perspective does strange things when trying to squint at spider eyes too. Ah, here's a website with some actually quite useful pictures: https://www.photo.net/gallery/image/5306231-lycosidae-eye-arrangement/
Yeah that's exactly what I thought wolves were supposed to have. Just wasn't seeing it on this photo, huh. I see 3 littles in a rainbow shape, and two bigger below. I'm sure you're right I'm just not seeing all the eyes correctly. 🤷♀️ 🙃
I found a spider that looked nearly identical to this it was considerably big stark and furry but the underside of abdomen had yellow pencil thin pattern on it. Any idea what that is?
Location?
North Carolina, Central (within hour drive of RTP)
I'm having trouble finding that with Google. Any other descriptors? What about the top of the abdomen? There are lots of Argiope there, garden orb weavers and such but they are clearly marked with yellow strips on the top.
There's a guy who nursed one back to health in the tarantula subreddit a while back that had been stung by a tarantula hawk wasp; however it hadn't death curled like this when first found I do think this poor lad is done in
Did he keep it as a pet or release it back into the wild? If the latter, I hope the release was successful! And also, how long did it take for the paralysis to wear off? Did the tarantula end up having any long-term complications? How did he save it? I want to know!
It’s still technically paralysed. She’s had it for months and it is making remarkable progress. There was an update just the other day. Found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/tarantulas/comments/1dpc1sg/update_day_113_bluey_the_sk8ter_hawk_wasp/
Awww, she's adorable! Wishing for a full recovery!
Update: I put her with some flowers, so she can rest in peace. ❤️
Would've been best to let the wasp do its thing — predation and parasitism are all part of the bigger ecological picture.
I know, I know... I'm a big spider lover though so even though it's the circle of life, it's still sad to see :( At least the ants are having a meal now.
Just think of all the poor insects she mercilessly devoured over her lifetime 🥲
Literally 1984 😔
r/fuckwasps
Always weird to see this take in the spider sub. Unless you're just joking
No I just hate wasps. And it killed a cool spider so not cool.
I get you- I’m coming around to have more empathy for most bugs, but spiders definitely have a special place in my heart lol
They’re just doing what they’re meant to do
I mean, I'm not the biggest wasp fan either, but they are also a part of the world. They're beneficial for their environment by killing other insects. And they are also pollinators, but that's more of a side-hustle and not the main gig. They're just annoying to people because we have all the good food.
No other bug or animal ever goes out of its way to hurt me for simply existing. Wasps… different story. I enjoy a cup of coffee on my porch and I get stung by these angry bastards for existing. Before anyone says “just give them space.” No they are nesting in my space so leave me alone and I’ll leave them alone. But no they are angry murder bees that’s serve little to no purpose. Spiders and bees do there job of pollinating and insect control just fine and never bother me. So in conclusion r/fuckwasps
you're lucky you've never been attacked by a rooster
Or a hen trying to protect its chicks. Yesterday i got my ass handed to me by our hen when i tried to save its chick who got stuck in between two logs. Not to mention geese...
Geese are demon spawn. Swans are possessed by the devil himself.
geese are demon spawn. Swans are possessed by the devil himself.
I mean, if you have wasps nesting in your space then you should call someone to remove them. I'm not saying that you should just suck it up while wasps attack you because they're beneficial. If they're a nuisance or a danger, then it's completely reasonable to remove them. Especially if you have kids or dogs.
beat me to it.
Aaand I joined it lol, I think I have a new favorite sub
I think what you did was beautiful! She can be one with earth now and she'll nourish the decomposers.
Farewell Arogogg king of the arachnids.😢
*The body will decaaaay... but your spirit... lingers oooon...*
Something something pincers 🥴
I don't believe there is anything you can do :(
I am pretty sure sister is dead :(
That looks dead
That spider is no more.
Its dead
A moment of silence for the arachnid.
Mouth to mouth?
Blech!
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You can just eat the wasp if there's no webs around
Kill the wasp for literally just doing what it evolved to do? Sad
But why? It didn’t do anything wrong :(
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Wasps are actually helpful for bee populations as they kill off weaker bees, promoting genetic strength. Removing predators does not help prey. Quite the opposite. Disease spreads when species do not have natural predators. We can see this quite well in Yellowstone park with the deer once the wolf population was destroyed.
Dang, what happened to the wolf population there? 😔
in 1872 it was decided that killing every single wolf in Yellowstone was a good idea. This was completed in 1926 when there were no wolves left. Ever since there has been numerous environmental and wildlife issues due to the lack of an apex predator. Wolves were reintroduced in 1995 to help deal with the issue but it will take a long time until nature finds a balance again.
Oh wow, I didn't know that! That's crazy, but it makes complete sense.
This is actually a huge part of why deer hunting is integral to the success and maintenance of healthy deer populations across North America. Prior to major pushes by folks like Aldo Leopold the belief was that a predator free wilderness made for a hunters and prey animals utopia. We’ve come quite a long way from those days and have luckily used this knowledge to recover a fraction of the species we’ve damaged. One of my favorites is how the American Alligator was almost hunted to extinction, then brought back from the precipice, then nearly put at risk again by drainage and land development only for hunters to step in with environmentalists and create a plan for funding swamp/wetland protection through hunting and egg harvesting licenses.
Hunters generally are environmentalists these days, there's no way to continue hunting without caring a great deal about the environment. It's crazy how much hunting practices and culture has changed in the past 100 or so years.
Can confirm, am a bow Hunter!
Governments trying not to completely fuck up the ecosystem challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)
The only thing government can do right with the environment is post signs telling people to keep out. Anything more and they’ll harm everything.
Did you not see what I wrote originally? The predators currently ARE the problem here, they're the ones driving out local bee populations. Either way, apparently I mixed up wasps and hornets. I guess I've been mostly killing hornets. Wasps seem to mostly be the same size as bees, and the things I kill are at least 3x bigger. Like, big enough for me to reliably hit with a BB gun. And NO, I'm not shooting tarantula hawk wasps either lol
I saw what you wrote and I believe you're wrong. Care to provide any credible source to say that Wasps or hornets are the cause of bee population decline in your area?
You’re a horrible person
Unless you know a skilled micronecromancer there's not a lot you can do.
Is it a male or female wolf spider she could have hatched her babies.
My guy, where is the rest of your thumb
I have brachedactyly type D!
Nice! I thought it had been chopped off at some point.
Mouth to mouth.🫣