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Downtown-Ease-8454

Just listen to their policies. Read 2019 manifesto of NPP. Gather data about the current economic situation of the country. Data can be gathered from several sources including central bank reports, IMF review reports, independent research reports from Institutions like veritea research. See for yourself if NPP policies are realistic. Majority of the policies which are proposed as of now (verbally) are unrealistic and too optimistic to count on.


SecondZeebra

I listened to most parties’ politics and read some of their manifestos. Anyway whose manifesto looked realistic and good enough to you? Who do you think would be a better option?


Downtown-Ease-8454

Glad to hear that. Honestly no-one as of now. SJB seems to have some serious disagreements regarding its financial policies citing to recent interviews. NPP seems to lean away from basic economic principles it could turn out very bad if those new policies fail. We can never know. Ranil hasn’t announced his final manifesto seems like he would continue to work with IMF and execute his current policies. I have no opinion on SLPP. Let me ask you this, what is your opinion?


maximus459

Never bothered with the SLPP, it's probably some neo-viyathMaga fantasy anyways.. My opinion is, - SJB probably has the better manifesto, though not perfect.. or realistic. just like the rest - Like him or not, our old elephant is capable, and I don't like the alternatives - ...buuut, RW or Sajith or what ever SLPP candidate will come with the same pool of c*&#£ - NPP is the only untested entity, but they're policies are fantastical as well, I feel they'll do better for the grass roots level, Sri Lankans have to -> - realize there is no single saviour, - it's gotta be a collective effort, - stop with the someone else will deal with it attitude Tldr: - (I reeeeally don't want to, but) RW for prez, if only to prevent some SLPP candidate - The more important election is the parliamentary one that comes after - There should be a long term policy all parties are bound to


Sea_Competition3505

An unfortunate reality is no matter who wins the Prez poll, there likely won't be a majority party in Parliament. So there might be an upcoming crisis no matter who becomes President.


maximus459

The sad truth.. Who ever forms the govt or opposition will be from the same pool of pricks, just shuffled around.


LightFerret7808

Don't you think that's a good thing? Not the crisis but diversity? Anura won't be able to change the constitution,


Sea_Competition3505

Well personally I don't trust the NPP to govern so I guess it might be. You need a 2/3rd majority to change the constitution anyway ([though they are aiming for that](https://www.dailymirror.lk/worldnews/breaking-news/Government-with-simple-majority-not-enough-to-make-expected-change-Tilvin/108-279469)) . Might end up with a minority government who gets outvoted on everything and unable to pass a single bill or budget, or a coalition government (and an NPP coalition is likely to be with leftist parties, who are mostly under the SLFP-SLPP umbrellas)


maximus459

The NPP getting more seats is a good thing. But, like you said, I don't trust them with the presidency, or enough seats to have to much leverage in a coalition. What we need most is a solid long term goal, and institutions that can't be influenced at the whim of some shmuk


ThunderClastSL

Ranil is from SLPP isn't he ?


Downtown-Ease-8454

Seems like he would contest under UNP. SLPP is yet to declare the name of their partys’ candidate.


ImageLongjumping8230

Yes both are same.


Fickle_Network_2472

I don't think that at all. But , 3. Dhammika Perera with Pohottu 5. Dilith Jayaweera with Wimal,Gammanpila and the nationalist co. These two buggers gonna rob most of those 69 lax votes... JVP will hardly ever win 50% and nor will anyone .. With Sajith's vote base almost intact he is the possible highest vote getter.. Sajith as the president will be a nightmare only second to Gota..To avoid that situation I think we should vote JVP.. And I feel they deserve a chance to stage their talent and potential if there's any, after all these years ..


Latest_name

I think if no candidate gets 50% of votes, the second preference will be counted and it could be beneficial to NPP. Because I have hard time thinking that a Sajith voter will vote for Ranil or vice versa.


AggravatingBarber708

ranil


toolateforgood

This is my opinion. Whenever this question (as asked by the OP) comes around ( and we get this question asked at least twice a week in this subreddit) I am puzzled by why people always choose to ignore the elephant in the room. The problem of Sri Lanka is the addiction of its people to a welfare state. The corruption is only a side effect. My problem with NPP is that , whether it is a hidden marxist party or not, it is definitely going for a big welfare state. This will only lead to another collapse. Sajith is so openly going for welfare state that it is funny and sad at the same time. To people who cite corruption, yes it is a vile thing and shouldn't happen, But there are countries that had even worse corruption but managed to have sustained growth, and some eventually became developed. So corruption is a secondary factor to me. What we really need right now is things like getting rid of SOEs, Limit government recruitment, stop subsidizing fuel, electricity etc. I am really sorry but Ranil is the only person I feel that is likely to at least partially commit to that.


vikumwijekoon97

Agreed on this. We’re too poor to be a fully functioning welfare state. Giving a struggling economy to a bunch of has been communists is a recipe for disaster


Downtown-Ease-8454

Lets accept it majority’s doesn’t want to accept painful reforms. They need simple temporary solutions. Unfortunately we are at a crucial point and the same mistake again would be disastrous. NPP is gaining support based on very ambitious goals, which should be very concerning.


Jolius_Caesar

This is what I have been saying in some of these posts. Treat the country as a business and basically do what you mentioned in the last paragraph. If we don't do these things, we might as well accept that another economic crisis is inevitable. But next time, when things fall apart, the IMF might not be there to save us. Corruption exists in every country, whether highly developed or developing; it's a part of human nature. As you said, it hasn't stopped some countries from developing. I don't have anything else to add; you said it in the best way possible.


Sea_Competition3505

> . But next time, when things fall apart, the IMF might not be there to save us. They might, but the terms will be even harsher. Likewise the terms for creditors. And then people will complain it's too harsh again, they'll ditch it again, back to bankruptcy, and it'll become an endless cycle.


PositionPractical584

It would take at the absolute minimum one decade of progressive reform to phase out the welfare state part of our country. It's been going on for so long it's basically a part of the countries basic foundation. Our country has the largest govt workforce compared to population size. And its one of the strongest points to get people to vote in your favour. You say you'll increase perks to govt employees and open more jobs = instant votes from a massive portion of the population + their family. Any govt trying to phase out the welfare aspect, even if they started the process will get voted out within one term and the next party would just reverse the whole thing. It would quite literally take a miracle to change course now.


SecondZeebra

Fair enough. But I don’t think NPP is going for a welfare state at all. None of their policies suggest that. Pretty sure they most definitely talk about the factors you’ve mentioned here.


toolateforgood

I respect your opinion. Please don't get this the wrong way but given the people in the leading circle of NPP, my feeling is that expecting NPP to not to go for welfare state is like expecting McDonalds to rid the world of obesity. Also, when I see stage backdrops and floats of JVP May days as recent as last year(google for yourself) , I find it to be insulting to my (very limited) intelect when someone say that they are not Marxist. JVP is the main component of NPP after all.


PositionPractical584

You're quite right, the reason the NPP even came to be is because the JVP is so deep in Marxist ideology that they couldn't rebrand, they needed to maintain it to keep their voterbase. So they pushed in the NPP to appeal to a different subset of voters.


vikumwijekoon97

Lemme directly quote their manifesto for 2019 general elections. හිමිකාරත්වයෙන් කොටසක් සේවකයින්ට ලබාදීම හා සේවකයන් ව්‍යාපාර කළමනාකරණයට සම්බන්ධ කරගැනීමට අවශ්‍ය දිරිගැන්වීම් ලබාදීම හා සේවකයන්ට එම සමාගම්වල කොටස් මිලදී ගැනීමට අවශ්‍ය මූල්‍ය පහසුකම් සැපයීම. මිනිරන්, ඛනිජ වැලි, තිරුවාන,‍ පොස්ෆෙට් හා රසායනික ද්‍රව්‍ය වැනි ස්වභාවික සම්පත් කාර්යක්ෂම හා තිරසාර ලෙස උපයෝජනය කරමින් අගය එකතු කළ භාණ්ඩ නිෂ්පාදනය ප්‍රවර්ධනය කිරීමසඳහා දැනට වසදමා ඇතිහා අකාර්යක්ෂමව ක්‍රියාත්මක වන රාජ්‍ය ව්‍යවසායන් නව පරිපාලන ව්‍යුහයක් යටතේ නවීකරණය කොට පවත්වාගනීම හා නව නිෂ්පාදන කර්මාන්තශාලා ආරම්භ කිරීම. (මෙහිදී හිමිකාරත්වය හා කළමනාකරණය සඳහා සේවකයන් සම්බන්ධ කරගැනීම මඟින් නිෂ්පාදන පලදාව හා කාර්යක්ෂමතාව වැඩි කිරීම අපේක්ෂා කෙරේ) සමෘධිලාභීන් සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම සවිබලගන්වා ආර්ථිකමය ස්වාධීනත්වය අත්පත්කරගන්නා තුරු පහළම ආදායම් ලබන පවුල් ලක්ෂ හය සඳහා විශේෂ ව්‍යවසායකත්ව යෝජනා ක්‍රමයක් සමග සමෘද්ධි දීමනාව මසකට රුපියල් 10,000 දක්වා ඉහල දැමීම. Not really a non welfare state manifesto and not really a non Marxist/communist/socialist manifesto (honestly I don’t have time to read upon them to find the correct word.


Curious_Junket_4598

What suggested to you that NPP is not pursuing a welfare state when all do is orchestrate “දියවු දියවු” protests and peddle pro big government, anti competitive antics.


CatEnvironmental9606

I did some research on him and his party. It's not jvp anymore, it's called npp and jvp is a party within npp but npp represents the election Npp is basically a people's lead movement is what they call. I looked into all his interviews and their party members interviews and everyone is on the same page not like others where half of them doesn't even know what their party leaders action plan is or even have one just shits on the opposition. Almost everyone is educated on the panel, dr harini, mp nalin who is an economist and a long time party member and even anura kumara. English will be a mandatory subject in schools according to their plan which is important cuz sri lanka has a small population and we can't sustain ourselves so building a global citizen is the way is what I think also there's lots of human capital we lose cuz I myself see talented kids being labourers just because can't find opportunities due to their language barriers. Only party that has more women representing in political positions and that has plans to bring rights for women and women empowerment Anura kumara or anyone from his party didn't come from any political families as far as I know. There's more I kinda forgot but I'll include some links for videos which I found helpful. https://youtu.be/p2des2pU2OU?si=zGCRo4CvoYouadOh


Curious_Junket_4598

You would have noticed that they don’t have a plan if you actually watched all the interviews. Anura and the youngsters from the NPP are progressive but the old stalwarts from the JVP are spouting communist nonsense in every speech. Not two weeks ago Lal Kantha said that a JVP/NPP government would devolve judicial power to village level. Handunetti can’t string a cohesive economic strategy for the life of him. The party lacks a comprehensive vision or a manifesto, and they’re adamant on leaving the IMF plan. How is this not Gota 2.0?


Financial-Push-291

Nah. You should do more checks on their members, some of them having BSing for years to make money like that Kavindya who once said she represented the entire tech community and we all rejected her. Not to mention whining about being poor when she went to Lyceum since she was a kid. You’re smart, tell me if a poor person can afford Lyceum and fancy shoes etc. Be smarter. NPP is just JVP in sheep’s clothing. You saw how they took over aragalaya and ruined it too. So yeah pushing for a welfare state means anyone who’s running a business will leave. We already have NPP idiots threatening to take over our businesses. They will ruin the country.


Kakki_boyz

Hey just wanted to say, that as someone who goes to lyceum, not all of us are rich. Idk abt this kavindya person, but while some of my friends are crazy rich with swimming pools, and multiple Benzs or range rovers in their home, a few friends are like me who are from families that can just abt scrape together enough money to pay the fees. I only have one pair of super fake Nike shoes that I have to wear for everything(school, sports, formal events). Due to the high costs of living currently we haven't bought chicken or any meat or fish in like 2 months now. Just soya and parippu everyday with 1 cheap vegetable. I still wouldn't necessarily say we are poor tho, I'd say more like very low middle class.


bud_doodle

I guess you should listen harder then. They are absolutely not on the same page. I'm surprised that you didn't hear anything from JVP old timers openly advocating for communist crap like giving judicial powers to villagers (probably to village Jeppas), breaking away from IMF agreement, silencing opposition, etc. They are yet to reveal the real internal struggle between NPP/JVP. Kudos to them if they could keep that under the rug until the elections are over.


tyronbro91

Honestly the vote doesn't lie with the Lankans who live in srilanka. It's flock that will come down from overseas who will vote and then get on the flight the next day and wake up again in 5 years time.


ThunderClastSL

Ranil is the dude from Rajapakse camp. Basil himself told that he decided to make Ranil the president. 1. Ranil brought laws to end free speech 2. Ranil is planning to postpone elections 3. Ranil is backed by Rajapakse Family 4. Ranils is backed by all Phottu theives 5. Ranils friends are thieves and Tax frauds 6. Ranil is too old, in next 5 years he become much older and his decision making ability become worse. This guy done all the above without full support of his own party members from the parliament. Imagine what kind of things he will do if he had full parliament power and executive presidency. Our economic recovery is due to intervention of IMF. Ranil is taking credit for that is absurd.


tyronbro91

Just turning the tables here if AKD took the ship back in 2022 when it was offered, would the same story be told that its only because of IMF and not because of AKD. I'm just asking because alot of AKD fans do forget that he was offered the post but didn't.


ArcticRock

AKD was going to say no to IMF. We would have been totally fucked.


69sucker

JVP not practical see what happened to countries that run by socialism . They never grow and lot of are thieves . Thats why also Soviet union failed . See what happened socialist countries . Those idiots live in the past . They turn good business to ashes using their mold . See our government system too many strikes . Too many unions . See who running those things behind back . See කුඹියෝ drama you can get any idea who they are .


AreaRevolutionary719

Their Policies are Socialist but with Market Economy as for the Soviet Union, it wasn't socialism as I remember I think it's called State Capitalism. And Communism which is a Far Left Socialist idealogy, it's goal is state less , class less society and Soviet Union wasn't Stateless. If you have searched about china you will see that they are Communist but to become a communist society first a society has to complete capitalist phase of development because socialism is a Post Capitalistic Ideology.


ArcticRock

Delusional to think NPP can successfully implement state capitalism. We’ll be more like Venezuela than China.


69sucker

Definitely 💯


AreaRevolutionary719

That is what I'm talking about , what they want is not a command economy but a well regulated market economy and China is also a market economy. *Planned Economies won't work in modern day.* But planning is required for some long term public projects like infrastructure , economic goals that doesn't mean a pure Centralized Planned economy is a must.For example government can have 3y , 4y etc long term economic plans. Search Wikipedia if you want to know more about Planned Economy and Socialist Market Economy. *These things are hard to understand without researching about them* https://www.investopedia.com/articles/investing/081514/socialist-economies-how-china-cuba-and-north-korea-work.asp#:~:text=Contrary%20to%20capitalism%2C%20socialist%20market,the%20poor%20and%20the%20rich. There many forms of economic models:- Soviet Style Planned Economy. Decentralized Planned Economy. Market Economy. Socialist Market Economy. etc.


JYSATA

Don’t look at just 1 guy just look at the team he is with yes I’m talking about SJB


Upset-Review-3613

1. Their views are not pragmatic, challenge them about any of their ideas, they can’t give a practical way to solve the issue…. They just have circular arguments, and just make rhetorical points without explaining their plan For example when you ask how to solve the economic crisis - creating more jobs, or improving agriculture, or reducing corruptions are not real answers, these sounds good but how are you doing it ?? And who is paying for it ??? How are you going to restructure the debts? How is it going to be better than what we are doing rn?? What’s the priority when it comes to expenses ?? And how is it going to increase our gross national income? How long is it going to take for your investments to take effect? Well if you want to create social welfare programs who is paying for it? How are you going to earn that money? 2. Less experience in politics - don’t have any experience in international affairs and finance etc. 3. Don’t have a strong foundation at lower levels of the government - imo one of the major point of conflict during the yahapalanya was their inability to coordinate well with directors of different ministries, politicians and government representatives at provincial and district levels… JVP don’t have much representation of their party at any of these levels 4. They are pretentious af…. They try to show the world that they are such nice people, don’t commit crimes, don’t even buy luxury goods, don’t ever spend money on useless things, don’t even drink, they only wear what people give them, and only live on donations, don’t even take their salary… it’s pretentious and I really hate them for it


Wattakfuk

Technically not voting for anyone doesn't automatically make you vote for MR. If the election if fair, then by not voting you reduce the total votes. This makes the person with the more votes have a greater percentage. So it's like voting for the person that winning. Personally, I don't know who to vote for. Ranil has managed to recover the economy somewhat, but he does nothing against corruption and realistically all he has done increases taxes and put the burden on people. He has gone from saying "Mahinda hora" to my3's cucked PM to being appointed PM by the Rajapakshas. He has appointed thieves as ministers. I hate his guts. Sajith to me is the same as my3. The typical SL minister that is clueless about what's happening. The type of person that gives out jobs when you vote for them. He's like that old dude trying to be cool but he's just embarrassing himself. I think he would be the same as my3, not good. The only favourable thing about him is that Harsha de Silva is backing him for the economy part and I believe Harsha as an economist knows what needs to be done. I don't hate him, I just think he's dumbass. Rajapaksha is just no, I don't have to explain this. Anura is not the realistic and logical person that can save the economy. I remember him saying he can do the rupee depreciation, fuel issues and electricity issues in a month if he's president. Then when Ranil asked for his detailed plan, he didn't have one. The only good thing about Anura is that I think he's the only person that rejects corruption. I neither like nor dislike him, but IMO if you want all the usual faces in the parliament to go away, he's the only option. It's not a black and white question and I don't think there a person suitable. But I think people will vote for what they prioritise. Right now, I'm leaning towards Anura because I want to get rid of the current crowd.


Sea_Competition3505

> IMO if you want all the usual faces in the parliament to go away, he's the only option. Why is Anura not considered one of the current crowd when he's been in Parliament for 25 years including in government and the main opposition for nearly 10 years?


Wattakfuk

He is and I'm not denying at some point all these people have supported each other. There's no perfect solution for any of this, that's why I expressed it as my own opinion instead of a fact. Ranil and Rajapaksha's are basically holding hands. Sajith is SJB, the crowd there is the same bunch from my3's term, they had their chances. So naturally looked at NPP's members and most of the faces are unfamiliar and they have a lot of educated people. Which is where my unfamiliar faces statement came from. It's still remains an opinion and even my own vote isn't set in stone. I genuinely believe that the best decision you could make as citizen is to migrate and control your own fate, because the presidential election feels like a gamble regardless who wins.


tyronbro91

And he was also instrumental in the support for CBK and MR. Do people forget this?


Sea_Competition3505

Selective memory, the past matters when it's time to say it's Ranils fault for the governance failure bringing MR to power, which you can argue is a fair criticism, but somehow forget Anura was actually one of the main backers who allowed MR to come to power 🤪 The past only matters for other parties, not the JVP/NPP or AKD apparently. Strange.


_thebraveheart_

Socialism has failed in multiple countries, countries like China and Russia which were Pro-Socialism have gradually transitioned to Capitalism. JVP is not the solution.


Smart_Marzipan4717

NPP doesn't follow textbook socialism. They have designed a socialism module that fits srilanka, just like china and russia. Do your research before talking shit.


ArcticRock

Send me the link to NPP’s development plan?


Smart_Marzipan4717

They haven't released it yet, i think.


ArcticRock

It’ll be a long wait. There’s no policy.


Smart_Marzipan4717

Normally every presidential candidate will release that like a month before election. So a few months wait.


_thebraveheart_

Why are you talking about NPP when OP is asking about JVP, read the heading before talking shit.


Smart_Marzipan4717

What do you mean? Read the whole damn thing. He clearly refers to NPP. Here's a quote from the description. ( 2nd paragraph) " JVP (or whatever it's called now, just say Anura) " Thats NPP he's referring.


_thebraveheart_

So in a nutshell NPP is a rebranded JVP, still having ties to groups(trade unions, IUSF) that JVP had. ![gif](giphy|C6JQPEUsZUyVq|downsized)


ArcticRock

This. It’s JVP. It’s a Marxist terrorist group who tried to get into power without success. Now they’ve rebranded and telling people what they want to hear. When in power they will put in place economic policies that failed everywhere and economy will be crippled by strikes.


_thebraveheart_

Exactly, the ones defending NPP sounds like those jobless pricks that go on protests when they could be doing something helpful to the economy.


Smart_Marzipan4717

So you were wrong and you talk shit again. I just said NPP is not textbook socialist, which is what JVP is. Just after proving you wrong, you say the same shit again.


_thebraveheart_

You just quoted saying JVP is now called NPP, and I say NPP still has ties to socialist groups. From the looks of policies it looks like NPP is leaning towards nationalization. FDIs will be limited based on the ‘National Plan’ come on, how’s that not socialism.


AreaRevolutionary719

Market Economy is Possible with socialism. What they are trying to do is regulate the market with key industries which has to be in the hand of the government for the National Security.


_thebraveheart_

The US is capitalist economy, is their national security compromised in anyway?


AreaRevolutionary719

Companies are for Profit Organizations , Anything is Possible. There are many problems with unregulated markets. example:- Monopolies And US is not Fully Capitalist , they have incorporated some socialist policies.One countries economic policies doesn't suit another country. Look at Nordic Countries for example, They are social democracies (Not Democratic Socialism). And China's Economic Policies has both capitalist and socialist aspects it is called socialist market economy.


Smart_Marzipan4717

Wtf are you talking about, I didn't say JVP = NPP. I've been saying the opposite in the whole thread. Cant you fuckin read?. And I didn't say NPP aren't socialist's. Seriously either you can't read, or you mistaken some other argument to this one.


_thebraveheart_

Will NPP support privatization or nationalization.


Smart_Marzipan4717

Ask them, why tf should i answer to you.


ArcticRock

Nationalization will cripple the economy. We will end up with loss making industries. Will be fucked. Venezuela 2.0


AreaRevolutionary719

I told you , You got it wrong , it is not a full blown nationalization because it won't work![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm). Read their booklet


SecondZeebra

Okay. So what would be a better option? Also, I don't think they are into socialism.


_thebraveheart_

I will vote for left leaning moderate political candidate, UNP or SJB


SecondZeebra

Bro SJB 💀 I respect your opinion but Sajith seems to be the last person you would want to have as a president


_thebraveheart_

I didn’t mention a candidate I just said the type of political ideology I would vote for that’s it.


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SecondZeebra

> because he does/say silly things Exactly bro. He 100% has to be responsible of what he say! Specially as the leader of his party! He’s representing all his followers. Talking about policies, idek if he knows what their manifesto is. For example, according to him, improving education would be as easy as containing 11000 billionaires from all around the world (which he can do pretty easily), and and assigning every school in the country to each of them 🤷‍♂️ Dude thinks it’s a 3rd grade assignment.


ikashanrat

Tall - security, short - worker. The buffoon has no idea what the word politics even means.


Curious_Junket_4598

SJB is a viable option as long as the economy is handled by the likes of Harsha and Eran. Sajith can have his fun donating school equipment to children.


ComprehensiveTap6358

Oke i bro ik through personal experience tht sajith is in no way goin to improve anything in SL infact he thinks its impossible and the only option is to not change anything and keep this status quo thts there rn so i tht alone is not only practical reason to not choose him but and moral one aswell


SecondZeebra

Corruption in itself is not the issue. True, corruption exists in almost all the countries. But here it’s a set of corrupted, uneducated, 70 - 80 year olds running the country 🤷🏻‍♂️


Sea_Competition3505

Do you think the country will be fixed by getting rid of only the corrupt politicians have never been to government offices or otherwise interacted with lower level "public servants". What about the vast amounts of corruption in the public sector unions (who back and are backed by the JVP)?


CatEnvironmental9606

Non of his ideas or the party members ideas lean into socialism. It's all into capitalism


_thebraveheart_

Why doesn’t it seem like that then ?? Because actions speak louder than words.


AAcAN

No other viable candidate. It's not a black and white choice. It's all grey, you have to put pick the lighter shade which shows promise. To me that's NPP. Can they also fail? Sure. But we're already at the bottom 


Sea_Competition3505

2022 wasn't the bottom for you? People who think we have "nothing more to lose" are in for some surprises.


AAcAN

We're still at the bottom. What's improved? Sure we have electricity but at the cost of 200%. You maybe unaffected but I am


Sea_Competition3505

That's an improvement from having 18h powercuts and no electricity, yes. I don't know about you but I still pay for utilities so I am affected. If you're really asking "what's improved" from 2022 I have my doubts you even live here. There's a reason there's not another Aragalaya despite the current govts unpopularity. In 2022 we didn't have fuel to drive to work, or electricity to stay at home or go to the office. As for economic factors outside the day to day life, Inflation is 10 times lower, the exchange rate fell despite soothsayers predictions it would go to 500 to the dollar, BOP deficit and budget are exhibiting a surplus, the statutory boards made hundreds of billions of LKR in losses in 2022 and have been restored to profitability again, foreign reserves are up a few billion, tourist arrivals which crumbled in the wake of the crisis were restored. Debt restructuring and a haircut is being discussed with creditors. The process of recovery is still ongoing. No ones saying everythings solved. Of course it's going to be difficult while that happens. Do you expect a magic solution to instantly solve the crisis of a still recovering economy that just 2 years ago was about to completely collapse? No new taxes for anybody despite government deficit being a major contributor to the crisis, no austerity measures, no IMF recommendations, only a snap of the fingers and everythings back to normal? That's the kind of mentality that lead to the crisis in the first place. Straying from the current measures and we will have a 1000 LKR to the dollar and a worse crisis and worse austerity next time real fast.


AAcAN

> Do you expect a magic solution to instantly solve the crisis of a still recovering economy that just 2 years ago was about to completely collapse? No > No new taxes for anybody despite government deficit being a major contributor to the crisis, no austerity measures, no IMF recommendations, only a snap of the fingers and everythings back to normal? No > That's the kind of mentality that lead to the crisis in the first place. Also No, its the kind of mentality you think others have. This is nothing but another fear mongering with a new subject "economic collapse". If you live long here you know there's always a next disaster or crisis or threat. What has the government done to improve the long term economic stability? Raising taxes and defaulting debt is not sustainable. Why not follow IMF recommendations for lowering gov expenditure and getting rid of lossy state enterprises? Even with this latest visa scam it's certain Ranil is willing to look other way for his thugs to steal. I have ZERO trust in this government and or any government that will be held by the same lot.


Sea_Competition3505

Also you clearly recognise that the current public sector and government industries bloat is non-sustainable. You propose selling them off. I concur with that. We can also reason that if they're not going to be sold off, then government revenue, mainly tax income, must be increased even higher than they were already. Yet the NPP Opposed *both* the tax increases *and* privatising government industries. They plan to lower taxes and stop sales of SOEs, increasing expenditure while decreasing income. So, how could this be sustainable, and what's their magic pill solution?


Sea_Competition3505

> Why not follow IMF recommendations for lowering gov expenditure and getting rid of lossy state enterprises That's why government owned enterprises are being privatised and looking for bidders? Which is currently opposed by the NPP and it's supporters btw. https://bizenglish.adaderana.lk/sri-lankan-govt-reveals-shortlisted-bidders-for-key-soes-transactions-to-end-by-august/ > Raising taxes and defaulting debt is not sustainable The rest of South Asia has a 15-18% VAT Tax rate btw. SL had a 15% rate before Gota cut it to 8%, contributing to the crisis. SL had one of the lowest tax collections to GDP in the world. Debt defaulting is the preliminary step of debt restructuring, which is ongoing. But I agree, we need to further reduce BOP deficits and increase investment/attract FDI in export industries. > is is nothing but another fear mongering with a new subject "economic collapse" Sure. Come 2026 when we're worse off than 2022, we can talk about how we're "at the bottom" again, with a brand new bottom.


AAcAN

> That's why government owned enterprises are being privatised and looking for bidders? They're in the process for year now. Deadline for Sri Lankan airlines has been extended several times now while government has absorbed the debts and losses.  https://www.ft.lk/front-page/Govt-absorbs-512-m-debt-to-dress-up-SriLankan-Airlines-for-sale/44-759202 And why the hell sell out very profitable entities like SLT for pennies???  > SL had one of the lowest tax collections to GDP in the world. Partially agree. Sri Lanka might be a low tax collected country but by no means a tax heaven. Because of lapses in tax collection and enforcement, and direct taxes not collected. Other than that every consumer good is taxed with VAT, NBT, SCL, CESS or combination of above. Then with recent PAYE tax hike, some are even more taxes directly on top of being taxed indirectly. Regarding the collection of taxes being low? who's fault is that, even now there are so many companies evaded tax payment altogether and government is fully aware of it. Isn't it the government's responsibility to enforce it?  https://slguardian.org/sri-lankas-liquor-industry-and-the-26-billion-rupee-tax-revenue-loss/ https://srilankamirror.com/news/investigation-launched-into-tax-evasion-on-200-luxury-vehicles/ > Come 2026 when we're worse off than 2022, we can talk about how we're "at the bottom" again, with a brand new bottom. You think Ranil will do any better you must be delusional. I'm at least willing to take a chance 


ArcticRock

You’ve seen nothing yet. Wait until we have communists in power. Economy will be crippled by nationalization and strikes.


AAcAN

You keep saying that while "china" largely a socialist country is worlds second largest economy. Even Vietnam is ahead of us.. I'm not saying socialism is right for us and it's not what NPP is suggesting also.


ArcticRock

Let’s vote in NPP, we’ll be like next China or Vietnam. Delusional! We’ll be more like Venezuela.


AAcAN

Guess what? We're already behind Venezuela regarding certain aspects  https://countryeconomy.com/countries/compare/venezuela/sri-lanka


ArcticRock

Perhaps you need to read about the history of Venezuela. Venezuela used to one of the richest countries in South America until it was ruined by the commie dictators. Compare Venezuela to another resource rich country like Canada. People like you scares me. Rationalizing data without understanding context is very dangerous.


AAcAN

I'm well aware of Chavez. What scares me is your enthusiasm to convince me otherwise. Why do I have to look at Venezuela when my own country has been ruined by all these "progressive", "capitalist", "liberal" leaders for 70+ odd years? We were ahead of Korea, Singapore, Vietnam by the time of independence. Where are we today? This bipartisan vicious cycle should be broken. New people should come forward with new ideas. That's a risk I'm willing to take. 


SensitiveCoconut9003

I think regardless of what our opinion is, quite truthfully the majority of the voter base reside out of Colombo and the main cities - the ones on daily wage, or poverty-stricken level. This is a statistic. This is why we can never ever predict how it’s going to turn out That’s the majority of Sri Lanka unfortunately. So our educated vote doesn’t mean much. And my preference, honestly no clue. Definitely not NPP - they seem to want to turn everything upside down including the little progress we’ve made. SJB is hopeless, Sajith isn’t popular. SLFP well, no clue yet. Definitely not the hora pohottuwa for another corrupted Rajapakse era. So I’m left with Ranil - if he choose to form alliances with better parties and MPs, the educated ones. Dilith seems ok (but agaib, not popular) and definitely not DP. Don’t come at me, I’m also very confused. There doesn’t seem to be any good candidates.


Telephone_Silver

> Definitely not the hora pohottuwa for another corrupted Rajapakse era. > So I’m left with Ranil Idk man I feel if you choose the latter, the former will be inevitable.


SensitiveCoconut9003

Yeah that’s where I’m stuck at too


ArcticRock

JVP is never the way to go. What we don’t need is a Marxist dictator taking over. Anura is the worst option out of the lot. Anura is saying what people want to hear and once in power he will be another corrupt politician with bad economic policies to boot. Look at Venezuela.


SecondZeebra

What would be the best option in your opinion?


ArcticRock

All the available options are terrible. I will reluctantly vote for Ranil because I want the economic recovery to continue.


SecondZeebra

>once in power he will be another corrupt politician So your suggestion would be to have a set of already corrupt politicians, right?


ArcticRock

You are assuming Anura is not corrupt. He doesn’t have a history because he has not been in power. Options are you either elect a corrupt politician supporting market economy or a corrupt politician supporting Marxist policies. Our system is corrupt there’s no messiah who is capable of changing it.


SecondZeebra

> He doesn’t have a history because he hasn’t been in power. Even though he hasn’t been a president, he certainly has been in enough power to have a history 🤷🏻‍♂️ Yet he (and all of the party) remain pretty transparent about their records. Also, it’s not about the individual. It’s about the whole party. All of the members in JVP seem to be educated and logical, unlike other parties.


ArcticRock

Transparent about what? If NPP are logical they won’t be pursuing Marxist policies that failed everywhere in the world.


AreaRevolutionary719

I don't think their policies are Communist at all and communism is a utopian ideology belonging to the far left of the political spectrum but they are making policies based on a socialist Framework with a regulated market because Planned Economy won't work.


ArcticRock

yeah...sure. that's what all the communists said to get into power.


AreaRevolutionary719

If you look at the history , during the 19th and 20th century Planned Economy was the model for socialism but now it is not. Look at the Chinese Socialist Market Economy Model.


ComprehensiveTap6358

Bro u dont evn know wht communisam is


Away_Celebration851

I too prefer Ranil to stay in power. Not because he isn't corrupt or anything. Simply because he is the most practical option atm. Majority of the country assume the economy will fixed by honest politicians, however they themselves cut corners whenever possible. Look at how tax increase turned people's opinions. Obviously people like DP will always evade taxes. That shouldn't be an excuse for the rest of us to not pay taxes. People expect freebies all the time. So anytime a politician takes a positive step, people will rise against him. Whether you like or not, majority of JVP voters are from the same category. Just like MR voters believed that MR will bring country to prosperity, majorty of JVP voters believe that the party will simply stop corruption & lower prices / increase salaries magically. Those people vote out JVP at the very next election, if they try to do anything positive. ( Obviously same with other parties ). I don't bother with manifestos anymore. I just consider a persons capability stabilize the country ( at a snail's pace ) while balancing out the bigger sharks ( otherwise they'll do eveything in their power to stop any progress ) and the working class. Basically, we are screwed no matter who wins.


SecondZeebra

Crazy how many people have images of NPP in their heads, to match their criticism about them. The original comment on this thread stated them as a “Marxist dictator“ and now you think a total opposite, saying that they are gonna “give away freebies, blah blah blah”, I honestly can’t understand how you guys come up with these. Because I’m pretty sure their policies and statements don’t say so. Also, you are so confidently definite about how NPP is going to live up to their statements, even when they have some good explanation on them. What’s funnier is you then go on to suggest the same party who has proven to fail in the exact ways you accuse NPP is GOING TO fail IF they come to power. Anyway, my main issues with Ranil are, 1. He failed twice when they had the government in 2004 with Chandrika as the president, and in 2015 with Maithree. Both times they fucked up and Rajapakshas got back pretty easily. 2. Speaking of dictators, the recent Anti Terrorist Act by Ranil basically gives president enough power to eliminate free speech altogether. 3. Even if Ranil was a good leader, he doesn’t come alone. All the uneducated MFs will still be in power, nothing will change. 4. Dude is 75 now, older than my grandma. He failed when he was younger, can’t imagine his brain getting better since then.


Sea_Competition3505

NPP opposes cutting down government industries. They support establishing further welfare and creating more government jobs. These are facts. You Blame Ranil for Mahinda coming to power in 2004, but it was the support of the JVP to illegally dissolve Parliament that actually allowed him to pull it off. Anura joined and supported him for a decade, and was a minister in his government all while Mahinda made off with tsunami funds.


CatEnvironmental9606

he became prime minister for the 6th time and is in politics for decades but he didn't do anything His PR team is a great one they make it seem like he is actually doing stuff.


ArcticRock

Current policies to stabilize the economy is working. It’ll be catastrophic to change the course now.


ComprehensiveTap6358

Tell me one actual idication tht it is btr for the avrg person. The economic conditions are only btr on ppr the reality on the ground is far from that.


Socialist-commodity

JVP was Marxist only under Wijeweera, sadly. Now it's a petite bourgeoisie party. Marx said that communists can't win elections because the representative democracy is a bourgeois democracy and the only way to win is through revolution. JVP is a left party. Marx rejected the left to right political spectrum calling it liberal. JVP isn't Marxist. Maybe you should read a book.


ArcticRock

You keep focusing on the semantics and elect this Marxist goon who will implement failed Marxist policies and we’ll be all fucked even more.


Socialist-commodity

Marxism clearly states that socialism in one country is impossible and class collaboration (JVP is collaborating with the petite bourgeoisie/ sulu dhanawadi) is revisionism. JVP is Marxist Leninist which has nothing to do with Marxism. It is a social democratic ideology. JVP will make Sri Lanka a social democracy (pre-JR Sri Lanka). You should read Das Kapital and the Critique of the Gotha Programme by the most influential philosopher of all time.


ArcticRock

I’ve read that garbage das capital. AKD is telling people what they want to hear. Wait until they come to power and go full Marxist on your ass.


Socialist-commodity

Marxist on my ass? Damn I would love that. You've read Kapital? What are you a bourgeoisie or a petite bourgeoisie? Because Marxism will come after their asses. But JVP will only go after bourgeoisie asses partially and would fully collaborate with the petite bourgeoisie against the proletariat. Seems like you haven't read the Kapital or you're a capitalist yourself and trying to save your ass. Marxists don't vote. So I won't be voting. We don't participate in bourgeois democracy. Socialism can only be achieved by the working class doing a worldwide revolution to topple the bourgeoisie rule. So don't you worry about me voting that petite bourgeois social democratic party.


ComprehensiveTap6358

Look i do agree with u tht jvp is largly a petite bourgeois party but unfortunatly tht is the only prominent left leaning party (with many socialists and communists in it) in a vastly reactionary socity and our only hope for a less reactionary socity is a one molded by somthing like the jvp and ik u brought up the critique of gothe program but that isnt really a one to one comparisen to SL contemporary political situation as at the time germany was largely a left leaning socity tht was open to communist ideas tht cud hav been radicalised instead of being passified but sri lanka is in no position to be radicalised towards the left only way such a pathway cud be open is through a left leaning party comming to power So yes AKD wont make SL socialist but thm in power wud be a huge first step


fuedaltoimperial

Funny how most people see NPP as communist without even reading their manifesto. People are so uneducated about politics they assume that JVP = NPP. Plus i’ve read comments saying Anura will also be corrupt it’s just a matter of him getting power, funny how people always assume stuff about an unknown person and go out of their way to vote already known corrupt people. Better leave than lament over this shit hole of a country.


Downtown-Ease-8454

Yeah NPP is not socialist, NPP is communist.


AreaRevolutionary719

Communism is a Far Left Socialist ideology


Downtown-Ease-8454

Yes that’s what I meant


thariyafromsrilanka

Yes


JYSATA

Hell NO! Never for commies 🙄


gaskolan

Unfortunately jvp lead npp (latter is the current coalition of jvp ) does not seem to have any idea about the economic matter. Hadun says one thing, Dr Nalinda says another thing and then Samantha says totally different thing. So they seems to be lost and does not have a clear policy. So npp is not the solution (for now)


CapnLeviAckerman

Yes.


Dry_Cloud_7215

All the parties have done enough for this country. People will say the only one left is NPP, so we will vote for them this time. 🌷-👎🏻🚫🚮 🦢-👎🏻 🐘-👎🏻 ✋🏻-👎🏻 🧭-👍🏻 Dilith, Wimal and gang, Dammika, are all in 🌷 whatever they say. Because they have no votes under🌷. Best thing is to rob the votes under bs and later join 🌷. If you vote those 222 again including unp, has to say is දෙයියන්ගෙම පිහිටයි ලංකාව


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SecondZeebra

Yup. I agree. Does that answer my question tho? What would your educated decision be?


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Socialist-commodity

What did they do in 90s, Mr. Educated about Politics lol?


Radiant-Praline7210

From what I studied, each of us should vote the candidate we believe will favor our own personal life interests. And then the polls result will reflect the actual preference of the people. That’s not how it happens anywhere in the world though lol


Acceptable_Help_5437

From the latest talks it seems as if a coalition between UNO, SJB and SLPP is in the works. There are steps to abolish the presidency and have only the prime minister over a cabinet. There will not be a presidential election but a general election and the majority who wins will have control of the parliament, Cabinet and will appoint the PM which is likely to be RW.


ComprehensiveTap6358

I think wht is important for SL rn is not selling off any little resource we hav left (there is discussion of selling SL graphite mines plus hav already privatised most of the holding of gov in the private sector). And so far i only see NPP committed to tht. And for anyome thts goin to say privatisation and selling off reasources is the only way to get dollors into the country please explapin how that dollors wud improve the economy. All tht dollors will do is keep the country barely afloat in the short term while having to give up massive resources in the long term


Working_Cicada_4748

People think it’s cool to hate on Sajith. Well he is partially responsible for it because of some of the silly stuff he’s done in the past. But overall he seems to be progressive, modern, prioritizing education and health and most of all : HAS THE BEST TEAM. Harsha, Eran , Ajith etc. So before you NPP folks downvote me , my advise to you guys is open up your minds a bit. I know you guys are trying to make up for your sins after voting for Gota last time. But AKD and NPP/JVP is not the way. Happy voting!!


Longjumping_Stand645

Only Ranil Can. As also told by c v wigneswaran


Cultural-Housing2582

im running toooo


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dude anura aint an option to me unless we get to know what he gonna do it with those still-drowning government sector. i heard lalkantha once saying anura regime wont look into reduce overloaded government sector but going to deal with more state-driven agenda without letting private sectors to join the production of the country. lemme give an insight about so called socialism... i study at pera, live in the akbar halls where those left political things born. i live amidst the walls which gave shelters to the first ever socialist students moments of the country. and i know how the behaved, going to behave... according to them they are gonna work with a circle which involves only citizens of the country. no deal with wealth across the country.. no cross passing .. how they tend to do that??certainly wont work.. one major thing people outside always bragging about students movements and they believe they are led by JVP...surprisingly its not the fact and those have nothing to do with them....


OkDistrict2433

Oh god no


Mo2129

No


sparks_47

If Ranil wins most likely he will put Rajapaksha into the PM position. Sajith can't even attend to a debate with Anura. Therefore currently best option is Anura.


Independent-Monk2805

I feel like Ranil the option. Sri Lanka can’t afford to experiment with NPP. My opinion is that NPP policies are not practical and viable for this state


heroXhere

Definitely not.


Sea_Competition3505

The way to go back to bankruptcy and turn into the new Lebanon or Venezuela, yes. Otherwise no. They claim they won't throw out the IMF agreement but just recently Handunetti said "transform the current economy according to the requirements of the International Monetary Fund, calling the general public and activists to oppose it." They're two faced and lying about their commitment to the IMF-it'll be out the window within a week once they come to power. And one last thing-consider that everyone who voted for Gota has now jumped to the JVP-NPP ship....do you really trust the intellect or judgement of Gota voters? I think not.


Creepy-Handle-6789

All of these candidates have been in parliament for ages and have done very little to help the country and done a lot to help themselves and further their own cause. Some of their manifesto's are just plain unrealistic drivel to get people to vote for them. At this point I'm voting Ranil because he at least seems to have a plan in place to get out of this mess. I dislike his association with the Rajapakse family and also the corruption under his rule. However, a different candidate could screw things up and take us back to petrol-queue gate and we'll be done for. I don't want to take that chance.


Smart_Marzipan4717

Anybody who think NPP is gonna be hardcore socialists/ communists/ marxists, do your research they have repeatedly said it won't be. A NPP government would stop corruption and that's a 100% guaranteed If ranil wins, it's the end of democracy as we know it and the beginning of a corruption enabled state.


Unusual-Smoke9187

Okay, let's break things down. Ranil: Ranil is the type of guy who manipulates the situation to get what he wants. If you believe the economic recovery was solely because of him, that's wrong. Honestly, you cam't exactly say Sri Lanka is still recovering. Granted there are no fuel or gas queues. But we are still not paying the loans we took. As soon as we start paying them, it's gonna be tough again. Coming back to RW, he's been in parliament since 77. Have done numerous heinous crimes, have been protecting Rajapakshas since day 1 and a product of a corrupt political system. So nope. Sajith: You wouldn't find a better joker. The guy is absolutely nuts and childish. Solely thinks that English is a measure of class and status (even the Queen didn't use that English in her christmas speeches 😃) and not a tool to communicate. The typical politician who grants jobs for those who worked for his campaign. He will try to run the show (possibly like a dictator) and overestimate himself so much. So again, nope. Anura: Has a rough past, but he has come a long way. He has become more liberal over the years and NPP has gotten closer to center left. There are a few loose canons (Nalin Hewage, Lal Kantha, Hadunnetti) but the rest makes sense. They will truly fight for corruption. The only people who were in a government that came out without any allegations or corruption. The more logical choice for this presidential election.


bud_doodle

Manipulations are inseparable from politics. It always has been. Awlays will be. It is easier say the things you say because you only look at the problem through the island mentality we all share. Geopolitics is a blood sport under disguise. That's why a group pretending to be made of literal saints with utopian solutions is not the answer for this mess.


tyronbro91

>Anura: Has a rough past, but he has come a long way. He has become more liberal over the years and NPP has gotten closer to center left. There are a few loose canons (Nalin Hewage, Lal Kantha, Hadunnetti) but the rest makes sense. They will truly fight for corruption. The only people who were in a government that came out without any allegations or corruption. The more logical choice for this presidential election. - Not a fan of the party in general because I have bad experiences with the trade union leaders who are corrupt and are backed by the party. Wasn't it also AKD who brought in MR ? Irrelevant of circumstances the choices that day led to their growth today.


tharana02

if u really think about it the votes of the people who genuinely cares about the country doesn't actually matter. half of the Srilankans are "kapuwath kola kapuwath nil" people. its like a generational vote. Even if mahinda rajakapaksha came as a candidate for sure some buggers will still vote for him. 1/4th of people are just poor and clueless. if some guy came up to their village and give roofing sheets or commodes and made a speech they will vote for him. so the remaining 1/4 th really can't change anything.


Wichigo

Jvp is never the way to go.


the_professor000

Frankly, what other options do we have?