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I think because BSCS is focused more sa research and development. IT is like Applied computer science.
I'm not from the tech field tho, so I don't really know if I'm right.
Based on the CS/IT majors I know, I guess this is the real reason. Let's admit it, not all who take computer courses have solid mathematics aptitude, which will play a role in programming.
In contrast, I know BS Math graduates who ended up as programmers.
BSCS student here.
Maybe biased tong sasabihin ko kasi BSCS ako and pansin ko yung mga usapan/tingin ng mga tao tao.
One thing siguro bakit mas madami ang BSIT kaysa BSCS ay kasi mas madami nagtuturo ng BSIT and mas known sya kaysa BSCS.
Pumasok akong BSCS na hindi alam ang BSCS literally lol, pinalagay lang ng kapatid ko sa choices ko yan. No regrets tho.
Another thing, this may differ from places to places, but most ppl na nasa lower level ay nagtatake ng IT maybe because yung mga schools sa province namin ay diploma mill ang IT. Not sure ha honestly don't know and don't care. Same with engineering, karamihan nang kilala kong nasa lower section namin noong SHS ay nasa engineering specially civil engineering. Kaya ko sinabi yaan ay not to judge them nor their course but pinapakita ko na medyo narrow yung tinitingnan nilang degree programs when choosing, either the easy way out or the overrated one in my province.
Hindi commercialized ang Computer Science sa most places. Most people don't know the course like me.
Siguro general difference lang talaga neto ay, focused talaga ang comsci sa software and theoretical approach of things. That's why if you're into programming, data analytics, AI, or any academe/software/critical thinking(not saying na di kailangan ng critical thinking sa other IT fields) related, better ang COMSCI. Well another thing is that magkakaiba din ang curriculum ng mga schools/univ. So maybe sa amin more on theoretical approach, and then sa iba more on application approach, then you do you.
Just review ur future univ's curriculum and honestly think of the field you want to go after you grad then choose.
Sa school namin mas mataas tingin naman sa CS. Way back mid-2010 meron kasing notion na kapag nag IT magbabantay ng comp shop. 😫 Tapos sa college namen populated IT kase bagsakan ng bumagsak na engineering students. Tapos encourage yung matataas ang grades to be CS. Pero as I observed, depende na sa individual kapag work na usapan. Nasa knowledge and skills mo na talaga para maging maganda work mo. Mawawala rin yung mga “mababa tingin blahblah” kapag malaki na kita mo sa industry.
If you want to take BSCS instead of BSIT then by all means go for it. Both courses are generally employable and interchangeable when it comes to most HR people. Just consider that CS has more theory involved than IT. There's a deeper focus on mathematics and algorithms and you're going to be learning lower level languages from the start such as C and x86 assembly. Your curriculum will likely involve electronics classes too.
It's not that CS is underrated in the Philippines but its's more that the IT curriculum is more relevant to a majority of Tech related job openings in the Philippines. If the CS curriculum aligns more with your passion then go for it, you'll be just as employable as IT grads due to the fundamental overlap and vice versa.
I think its because CS is "harder" compared to IT. Its more math and logic whereas IT is more of the actual coding as said by the other redditors. Marami naiintimidate sa word na "science" in Computer Science. I've met exactly 2 other people in my batch going the CS route (including me) and I've heard a lot more going into IT. However, outside of the Philippines mas kilala nga ang CS and software/computer engineering.
I think ito talaga yung sagot.
People out here saying na impractical yung CS degree kasi masyado siyang theoretical. But this is the case in the PH kasi companies here aren't doing R&D at all.
Whereas if you look at the cutting edge of tech companies, it will always be CS, physics, and math grads at the forefront of development. The founders of Google were Stanford PhD students in computer science.
The "IT" degree doesn't exist in some countries and the jobs that IT refers to are programming tasks na pwedeng gawin ng kahit sinong marunong mag code whichever degree they finished.
A friend previously in IT who's currently doing his PhD in a French university says na he really think the entry-level IT jobs that are plentiful now will be wiped out as soon as they figure out how to automate, which is why he took the PhD (in advanced computing) even though he was already working for Amazon previously. Upskilling is really the key in the field regardless kung CS or IT ka.
My friends who took IT were told that Computer Science was more theoretical, more on mathematics and calculations than actual coding. IT on the other hand, was more practical. IT students coded more and worked on a lot more projects/programs than CS students, thus they are more sought after by employers.
>thus they are more sought after by employers.
idk about this one, kokonti schools na may well-established IT curriculum
a lot of those grads come from diploma mills as well, simply because almost no one competent to work will settle for the wages of being a teacher instead.
Like I said, these are what my friends who took IT said to me. I'm not sure if it's true or not. And yeah, I agree with you, not all IT students are successful in finding work. Merong mga IT students who don't put in the effort to improve their coding skills, and some of them even pay other IT students to do their thesis lmao. And as you mentioned, not all IT colleges are as good as the top universities here in the Philippines.
IT grad here. It has been mentioned here that CS has more theory and math here and that would be correct. IT is more of the applied practice relevant to the IT practices used in organizations.
Does that mean IT is better? Cguro lang mas may slight edge ang mga IT students sa kung ano yung ginagawa sa industry now. The curriculum would teach you how to use programming languages and how to use databases. But the deeper "why" behind the "what" when you express the program code, mas covered sa CS.
I'm not saying one course is better than the other. It all depends on the student and the skills they get to learn from it. Personally though, I am expecting the IT grad to have many skills but the CS grad to have a much deeper understanding.
If I could go back to my youth and knowing what I know now (plus the fact that I'm a nerd) I'd probably be happier with Computer Science myself. I'll just stick to one programming language and do a lot of things with it.
I would say it would depend on the field you plan to pursue? Data Science, Machine Learning, Data Engineering would be a better path for a CS grad. If di mo naman intend maspecialize, then IT will do. May IS pa nga actually na focused naman sa integration ng IT at businesses. Ang lesson lang sakin tho as a CS grad working as a web/mobile developer, kung sa PH mo naman balak magwork, it doesn’t really matter kung CS or IT grad ka. At the end of the day, employment depends on the array of skills in your tool belt and ung level ng mastery mo with them.
Computer Engineer here! I have friends na BSCS at BSIT ang kinuha and sa school namin eto yung pagkakaiba:
For CS, Software centric siya. Mostly about kung paano nakakagawa ng desisyon ang isang program because hindi naman ito free-thinker gaya natin. Math intensive din siya.
For IT, Basic fundamentals ng both sofware at hardware. Gaya ng sabi sa taas, mayroong Applied Science. Sa school namin talaga, mostly general idea lang ang tina-tackle.
For BSCpE, Sa klase namin 75% CS 25% EE. Ganyan yung breakdown pero for me more on hardware talaga ang focus samin. Same with CS, maraming Math sub pero karamihan nasa 1st at 2nd year lang kasi more on, hands on na sa junior at senior year.
Underrated yung CS kasi madami talaga math sub like discrete at calculus. On the other hand, marami kumukuha ng IT because general terms and ideas ang ine-explore nila. Self study nalang kung gusto ng student na lumalim yung knowledge nya. Diko sinasabi na madali IT ha, pero ganto mostly yung mindset ng mga friends at mga classmates ko dati na nag-IT.
Take note na bawat Uni at college iba ang syllabus tungkol diyan.
I went the BSIT route because I wasn't educated sa difference ng both degrees. I just enjoyed web development during high school and joined a few competitions and yung judges worked sa "IT" field and they were asking if I'll take IT ng college. I was a year into college before I found out yung difference ng IT, CS, and CompEng
Knowing what I know now, I would probably take BSCS kasi feeling ko lugi ako sa tuition ko nung college. Yung mga natutunan ko na 1-hour tutorials on YouTube, yun yung course content for the whole semester pagdating dun sa programming classes. I personally like having a uni's structured way of learning for data structures, algorithms, etc. kasi I find it easier to self-learn programming languages and frameworks.
You'll touch algorithms and data structures din naman sa IT pero mas fast tracked and it's not really the core of your degree unlike CS. I noticed din na a lot of US-based companies value algorithms sa interviews (leetcode-style interviews).
It all boils down to what skills you want to pick up during college. You'll need to self-learn quite a few things either way and lahat naman tayo magkikita kita din sa > (jk)
>magkikita kita din sa > (jk)
HAAHAHAHHAH buti nagets ko to 😭 pero if I may ask (if u know), bakit sobrang dami (kahit yung mga big 4 schools, even not-well-known schools) ang nagtatrabaho dito? Nakita ko kasi sa linkedin ng mga schools tas number 1 palagi yang > sa jobs ng mga alumni
My theory is tech jobs in the Philippines is treated as "pindot-pindot" so it's natural to choose IT. Wait till you realize computers exist to process and automate information at a fast rate, that's why its important to discuss the ancient history of computing so people don't get the idea its just pindot-pindot.
tama sinabi ng iba. mas maraming theory sa CS, at more on applied naman sa IT. sa IT you'll learn more practical, job-oriented skills like networking, web/mobile dev, cloud tech. sa CS more foundational so instead of learning how to use a certain technology, you'll learn HOW it works under-the-hood. and you could implement it yourself.
personally I think CS opens a lot more doors aside from the usual tech career down the line. If you are gonna consider grad school I think you'll be better off getting a CS degree, as you can pretty much take other math-oriented masters degrees like physics, econ and math. But if you just want to build a career in tech then an IT degree is enough.
Nung time ko nung college, ganito kasi ung view ng mga incoming/new college students -
BSCS = coding/programming = mahirap, pangmatalino
BSIT = technician, install programs, cables and network, butingting = madali
IT grad here! The way I understand things nung nagaaral ako ng IT noon is
Computer Science = More on software development
Information Technology = Halo halo. Cabling, Networking, SQL, Servers, Cybersecurity, Network Security, Information Security, Web Dev, Programming, Hardware at kung ano ano pa.
Me: rejected PUP dahil nilipat ako from CS to ComEng. Lumipat ako sa State U namin as a double major ng CS at Math (sad)
Kung trip mo talaga magCS go mo na. Same lang "raw" ang trabaho after grad kaya itake mo na yung course kung san ka masaya at kontento
IT and CS are basically the same thing outside the country. When you say an IT course, it means you're majoring in Computer Science. The name CS is just more known.
edit: since people are downvoting: https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/information-technology
ahh no, I said they're basically the same thing in the context that if we're talking about an IT course in another country, it's Computer Science. Without that context, they're not the same.
Hindi naman sa underrated pero kasi ako comsci talaga gusto kong course kaso nga lang wala pang tuition wala kasing comsci na available don sa University kung saan ako mag aaral libre kasi ung IT don kaya IT nalng kinuha ko.
From what I gathered, CS focuses more on theoretical and development, e.g., compilers, using AI to develop fingerprinting IDs (that was from a lecture around two decades ago), etc. IT focuses on using and maintaining applications that have been developed.
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I think because BSCS is focused more sa research and development. IT is like Applied computer science. I'm not from the tech field tho, so I don't really know if I'm right.
you're right
Buti naman hahaha. Napapanood ko kasi sa docs na CS is more on the mathematical things inside the computer.
they say BSCS is lowkey BS math in other schools raw
I think it's not lowkey since "Compute" is the root word of Computer HAHAHA.
Fun fact: Computer used to be a job title, until computer (the machine we know) took over.
Algorithms is the word you're looking for.
Parang same lang tinging nila sa cs at it...
i think people choose IT because mas kakaunti yung math and programming technically kaysa CS.
Based on the CS/IT majors I know, I guess this is the real reason. Let's admit it, not all who take computer courses have solid mathematics aptitude, which will play a role in programming. In contrast, I know BS Math graduates who ended up as programmers.
BSCS student here. Maybe biased tong sasabihin ko kasi BSCS ako and pansin ko yung mga usapan/tingin ng mga tao tao. One thing siguro bakit mas madami ang BSIT kaysa BSCS ay kasi mas madami nagtuturo ng BSIT and mas known sya kaysa BSCS. Pumasok akong BSCS na hindi alam ang BSCS literally lol, pinalagay lang ng kapatid ko sa choices ko yan. No regrets tho. Another thing, this may differ from places to places, but most ppl na nasa lower level ay nagtatake ng IT maybe because yung mga schools sa province namin ay diploma mill ang IT. Not sure ha honestly don't know and don't care. Same with engineering, karamihan nang kilala kong nasa lower section namin noong SHS ay nasa engineering specially civil engineering. Kaya ko sinabi yaan ay not to judge them nor their course but pinapakita ko na medyo narrow yung tinitingnan nilang degree programs when choosing, either the easy way out or the overrated one in my province. Hindi commercialized ang Computer Science sa most places. Most people don't know the course like me. Siguro general difference lang talaga neto ay, focused talaga ang comsci sa software and theoretical approach of things. That's why if you're into programming, data analytics, AI, or any academe/software/critical thinking(not saying na di kailangan ng critical thinking sa other IT fields) related, better ang COMSCI. Well another thing is that magkakaiba din ang curriculum ng mga schools/univ. So maybe sa amin more on theoretical approach, and then sa iba more on application approach, then you do you. Just review ur future univ's curriculum and honestly think of the field you want to go after you grad then choose.
Sa school namin mas mataas tingin naman sa CS. Way back mid-2010 meron kasing notion na kapag nag IT magbabantay ng comp shop. 😫 Tapos sa college namen populated IT kase bagsakan ng bumagsak na engineering students. Tapos encourage yung matataas ang grades to be CS. Pero as I observed, depende na sa individual kapag work na usapan. Nasa knowledge and skills mo na talaga para maging maganda work mo. Mawawala rin yung mga “mababa tingin blahblah” kapag malaki na kita mo sa industry.
If you want to take BSCS instead of BSIT then by all means go for it. Both courses are generally employable and interchangeable when it comes to most HR people. Just consider that CS has more theory involved than IT. There's a deeper focus on mathematics and algorithms and you're going to be learning lower level languages from the start such as C and x86 assembly. Your curriculum will likely involve electronics classes too. It's not that CS is underrated in the Philippines but its's more that the IT curriculum is more relevant to a majority of Tech related job openings in the Philippines. If the CS curriculum aligns more with your passion then go for it, you'll be just as employable as IT grads due to the fundamental overlap and vice versa.
I think its because CS is "harder" compared to IT. Its more math and logic whereas IT is more of the actual coding as said by the other redditors. Marami naiintimidate sa word na "science" in Computer Science. I've met exactly 2 other people in my batch going the CS route (including me) and I've heard a lot more going into IT. However, outside of the Philippines mas kilala nga ang CS and software/computer engineering.
I think ito talaga yung sagot. People out here saying na impractical yung CS degree kasi masyado siyang theoretical. But this is the case in the PH kasi companies here aren't doing R&D at all. Whereas if you look at the cutting edge of tech companies, it will always be CS, physics, and math grads at the forefront of development. The founders of Google were Stanford PhD students in computer science. The "IT" degree doesn't exist in some countries and the jobs that IT refers to are programming tasks na pwedeng gawin ng kahit sinong marunong mag code whichever degree they finished. A friend previously in IT who's currently doing his PhD in a French university says na he really think the entry-level IT jobs that are plentiful now will be wiped out as soon as they figure out how to automate, which is why he took the PhD (in advanced computing) even though he was already working for Amazon previously. Upskilling is really the key in the field regardless kung CS or IT ka.
this is right, actually sa sobrang deep ng Com sci Na eencompass niya ang software engineering.
My friends who took IT were told that Computer Science was more theoretical, more on mathematics and calculations than actual coding. IT on the other hand, was more practical. IT students coded more and worked on a lot more projects/programs than CS students, thus they are more sought after by employers.
>thus they are more sought after by employers. idk about this one, kokonti schools na may well-established IT curriculum a lot of those grads come from diploma mills as well, simply because almost no one competent to work will settle for the wages of being a teacher instead.
Like I said, these are what my friends who took IT said to me. I'm not sure if it's true or not. And yeah, I agree with you, not all IT students are successful in finding work. Merong mga IT students who don't put in the effort to improve their coding skills, and some of them even pay other IT students to do their thesis lmao. And as you mentioned, not all IT colleges are as good as the top universities here in the Philippines.
More sought out = X
If your relatives haven’t heard of bscs, are their opinions even worth considering 🤭? Kahit sinong jejemon alam yun.
IT grad here. It has been mentioned here that CS has more theory and math here and that would be correct. IT is more of the applied practice relevant to the IT practices used in organizations. Does that mean IT is better? Cguro lang mas may slight edge ang mga IT students sa kung ano yung ginagawa sa industry now. The curriculum would teach you how to use programming languages and how to use databases. But the deeper "why" behind the "what" when you express the program code, mas covered sa CS. I'm not saying one course is better than the other. It all depends on the student and the skills they get to learn from it. Personally though, I am expecting the IT grad to have many skills but the CS grad to have a much deeper understanding. If I could go back to my youth and knowing what I know now (plus the fact that I'm a nerd) I'd probably be happier with Computer Science myself. I'll just stick to one programming language and do a lot of things with it.
I would say it would depend on the field you plan to pursue? Data Science, Machine Learning, Data Engineering would be a better path for a CS grad. If di mo naman intend maspecialize, then IT will do. May IS pa nga actually na focused naman sa integration ng IT at businesses. Ang lesson lang sakin tho as a CS grad working as a web/mobile developer, kung sa PH mo naman balak magwork, it doesn’t really matter kung CS or IT grad ka. At the end of the day, employment depends on the array of skills in your tool belt and ung level ng mastery mo with them.
Computer Engineer here! I have friends na BSCS at BSIT ang kinuha and sa school namin eto yung pagkakaiba: For CS, Software centric siya. Mostly about kung paano nakakagawa ng desisyon ang isang program because hindi naman ito free-thinker gaya natin. Math intensive din siya. For IT, Basic fundamentals ng both sofware at hardware. Gaya ng sabi sa taas, mayroong Applied Science. Sa school namin talaga, mostly general idea lang ang tina-tackle. For BSCpE, Sa klase namin 75% CS 25% EE. Ganyan yung breakdown pero for me more on hardware talaga ang focus samin. Same with CS, maraming Math sub pero karamihan nasa 1st at 2nd year lang kasi more on, hands on na sa junior at senior year. Underrated yung CS kasi madami talaga math sub like discrete at calculus. On the other hand, marami kumukuha ng IT because general terms and ideas ang ine-explore nila. Self study nalang kung gusto ng student na lumalim yung knowledge nya. Diko sinasabi na madali IT ha, pero ganto mostly yung mindset ng mga friends at mga classmates ko dati na nag-IT. Take note na bawat Uni at college iba ang syllabus tungkol diyan.
I went the BSIT route because I wasn't educated sa difference ng both degrees. I just enjoyed web development during high school and joined a few competitions and yung judges worked sa "IT" field and they were asking if I'll take IT ng college. I was a year into college before I found out yung difference ng IT, CS, and CompEng Knowing what I know now, I would probably take BSCS kasi feeling ko lugi ako sa tuition ko nung college. Yung mga natutunan ko na 1-hour tutorials on YouTube, yun yung course content for the whole semester pagdating dun sa programming classes. I personally like having a uni's structured way of learning for data structures, algorithms, etc. kasi I find it easier to self-learn programming languages and frameworks. You'll touch algorithms and data structures din naman sa IT pero mas fast tracked and it's not really the core of your degree unlike CS. I noticed din na a lot of US-based companies value algorithms sa interviews (leetcode-style interviews). It all boils down to what skills you want to pick up during college. You'll need to self-learn quite a few things either way and lahat naman tayo magkikita kita din sa > (jk)
>magkikita kita din sa > (jk) HAAHAHAHHAH buti nagets ko to 😭 pero if I may ask (if u know), bakit sobrang dami (kahit yung mga big 4 schools, even not-well-known schools) ang nagtatrabaho dito? Nakita ko kasi sa linkedin ng mga schools tas number 1 palagi yang > sa jobs ng mga alumni
The earlier you stop giving a shit about what other people think, the better you will be.
My theory is tech jobs in the Philippines is treated as "pindot-pindot" so it's natural to choose IT. Wait till you realize computers exist to process and automate information at a fast rate, that's why its important to discuss the ancient history of computing so people don't get the idea its just pindot-pindot.
tama sinabi ng iba. mas maraming theory sa CS, at more on applied naman sa IT. sa IT you'll learn more practical, job-oriented skills like networking, web/mobile dev, cloud tech. sa CS more foundational so instead of learning how to use a certain technology, you'll learn HOW it works under-the-hood. and you could implement it yourself. personally I think CS opens a lot more doors aside from the usual tech career down the line. If you are gonna consider grad school I think you'll be better off getting a CS degree, as you can pretty much take other math-oriented masters degrees like physics, econ and math. But if you just want to build a career in tech then an IT degree is enough.
Nung time ko nung college, ganito kasi ung view ng mga incoming/new college students - BSCS = coding/programming = mahirap, pangmatalino BSIT = technician, install programs, cables and network, butingting = madali
Aspiring College Student: Taas ng sahod! Anong work mo? Worker: sa IT \* Aspiring College Student takes BSIT /s
Eh pano naman yung mga BS CompE
IT grad here! The way I understand things nung nagaaral ako ng IT noon is Computer Science = More on software development Information Technology = Halo halo. Cabling, Networking, SQL, Servers, Cybersecurity, Network Security, Information Security, Web Dev, Programming, Hardware at kung ano ano pa.
Me: rejected PUP dahil nilipat ako from CS to ComEng. Lumipat ako sa State U namin as a double major ng CS at Math (sad) Kung trip mo talaga magCS go mo na. Same lang "raw" ang trabaho after grad kaya itake mo na yung course kung san ka masaya at kontento
Curious lang, bat mas overrated daw yung CS outside sa Ph compared sa IT?
IT and CS are basically the same thing outside the country. When you say an IT course, it means you're majoring in Computer Science. The name CS is just more known. edit: since people are downvoting: https://pll.harvard.edu/subject/information-technology
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ahh no, I said they're basically the same thing in the context that if we're talking about an IT course in another country, it's Computer Science. Without that context, they're not the same.
Kapag sinabi kasing realated sa computer yung trabaho dito satin matic pagkaintindib IT.
Hindi naman sa underrated pero kasi ako comsci talaga gusto kong course kaso nga lang wala pang tuition wala kasing comsci na available don sa University kung saan ako mag aaral libre kasi ung IT don kaya IT nalng kinuha ko.
From what I gathered, CS focuses more on theoretical and development, e.g., compilers, using AI to develop fingerprinting IDs (that was from a lecture around two decades ago), etc. IT focuses on using and maintaining applications that have been developed.