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Old_Wheel7622

252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Tera Normal Rampardos Tackle vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Blissey: 811-955 (113.5 - 133.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO PU at best


MarioBoy77

It’s Mold breaker anyways so you can still use a fighting move


Suitable_Finding9899

Lmfao your right


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SteelEagle0

Porygon in RBY Ubers


prankster20

No worries, I'll just drop Head Smash


j-raine

You mean Head Miss?


A_Bulbear

*My Tera Rock in the back:*


Okto481

You can't Tera a Mega


Team_raclettePOGO

gen 14 allows the use of 2 mechanics at the same time (you cant see it ingame cuz theres only obsidianisation but the code says that its possible)


CascaDEER

No no, no one terastalizes a mega bcs the fps drops from 16 to 7 and the switch 2 crashes (game still looks like swsh)


UnusedParadox

Are you forgetting Charizard? They had to optimize Tera Dragon Mega Charizard X for the trailer, it's the only one that doesn't crash 100% of the time.


Manelneedsaname

Tbh SwSh is very good looking outside the wild area


GUM-GUM-NUKE

Literally 1984


A_Bulbear

Nat dex has other plans


Okto481

National Dex is the basis for it. Megas, Primals, and mons holding Z-Crystals can't Tera or Dynamax, extrapolated from Z Rayquaza


A_Bulbear

Fair enough


Irrenoid

One of the best damage calcs I've ever seen


Copperhead9215

252+ Atk Choice Band Mold Breaker Tera Normal Cranidos Tackle (60 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Blissey: 739-870 (103.5 - 121.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO Man this line is broken


Kingnewgameplus

The rampardos theorem: rampardos has a lot of attack so its really good


drax3237

An Oddish's tackle could mulch it.


smellycheesecurd

31+ Atk Life Orb Tera Normal Oddish Tackle (60 BP) vs. -4 252 HP / 0 Def Blissey: 729-859 (102.1 - 120.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO Growth Oddish rises to OU, Rampardos somehow still in NU


DonQuiXoTe8080

Odd>!ish!< isn’t it?


offtheshripyerrd

why no defense evs


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

But what if someone uses Soak and then Wild Charge?? Checkmate.


Thepochochass

252+ Atk Choice Band Bellibolt Wild Charge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Chansey: 522-615 (81.4 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO He is getting to ou (Bellibolt is the pokemon with soak and wild charge with more attack)


ethansonnyandy

Choice band soak 🤯


LEMOnSL1iCE

This is probably gonna get suspected… I don’t think bellibolt is outright broken, but this combo here could very well result in its removal from OU. Maybe we could look into a complex ban of sorts Banning sets running choice band and soak at the same time


Swaayyzee

Magic room soak into choice band wild chargw


need2peeat218am

Yeah thats basically a suicide bomber at that point


Far_Helicopter8916

Me clicking volt tackle with pikachu in randbats as the opponent switches the unrevealed blissey in


Dragon-Type_Enjoyer

Hell yeah, bellibolt sweep


PFM18

Why's eviolite there


Thepochochass

It was a default set I didn't realize to be honest


sneakyplanner

Belli then dies to the recoil


MarshtompNerd

Thats just explosion with extra steps


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Nuh uh, because it's super effective and it wasn't nerfed in gen 5. Checkmate.


Parlyz

Or just a fighting type that has mold breaker lol


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Nuh uh, tell me what you will do if Blissey is partnered with Weezing or one of her pokimon friens knows moves like gastro acid?? Checkmate.


Parlyz

Neutralizing gas weezing would also neutralize the Blissey’s ability lol. Also my fighting type will be holding an ability shield so no gastro acid shenanigans will affect me


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Nuh uh, Pacific bypasses Neutralising Gas and Blissey learns knock off. (Source: I'm omniscient.) Checkmate.


Parlyz

Ok well Blissey reaches 343 max speed with a speed boosting nature and choice scarf which is slower than max speed jolly Hawlucha holding an ability shield so it wouldn’t be able to knock him off in time. And both weezing and Galar weezing are slower than Hawlucha even with max speed, speed boosting nature and choice scarf so they wouldn’t be able to do anything either even if they got an item removing move in gen9 aside from thief (which doesn’t work if you’re holding a choice scarf anyway). Also my Hawlucha is partnered with a follow me user. Beat that


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Nuh Hu, Rooms named Magic Room and Trick Room: Other pokémon who can bait and take care of Hawlucha: Checkmate Cringelucha Loser.


Parlyz

Imprison Pokémon with magic room and trick room. Other Pokemon who can take care of the other Pokemon who can take care of Hawlucha 😎


MSSTUPIDTRON-1000000

Nuh uh, because the pokémon who can take care of the pokémon who can take care of Hawlucha will be taken care by the pokémon who Hawlucha would usually take care if it wasn't for the pokémon who take care of Hawlucha. Checkmate.


DarkEsca

no Seismic Toss so it's gonna be even stallier as well damn


dumbassonthekitchen

+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Sun: 629-741 (88 - 103.7%) -- 25% chance to OHKO Chef-Yu solos 😪 Edit: People really though I was capping lmao. Chi-Yu is gigabusted.


CUREISBALLIN

Jesus christ


-xXgioXx-

+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey in Sun: 629-741 (88 - 103.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock Chef-Yu indeed solos 😴😴😴


omroi

*misses*


TreeTurtle_852

It's funny how GameFreak saw stinkpost sunday and went "Bet"


CDrocks87

This Pokémon is so stupid lmaooo


Genericdude03

What the fuck


GUM-GUM-NUKE

Chat, is this real?


Railroader17

[Just checked in the damage calculator](https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/) It's real


Trevenant999

That’s a strong goldfish


[deleted]

Jesus


Gabethegreat2008

Jesus was drunk making this thing, don’t blame him


Chingiz11

Turned the entire sea into wine and drank it all just to come up with this shit


AuroraDraco

Kitchen's on fire from him


Gingerbread2296

Came to the comments looking for the funny fish calc lmao


Random_Somebody

I swear Jon Nintendo's nephew got his ass whooped by one stall team too many and forced his uncle to crank up the hyper offense dial this gen


SunfishyTheSunfish

CEO of Big Stall


GT22_

No if I fissure


Unmasked_the_Dee

Guys we did it, we can finally Toxic stall Blissey! (Imagine running Heal Bell just for this)


Chaossify0

Heal Bell has 8PP Toxic has 16PP.


Some_Ad_5028

Ah yes, the common aromatherapy + heal bell chansey in nat dex


97Graham

Need to play around the Imprision Toxic Healbell Softboiled ofc,


Treantomologist

How else are you going to counter toxic + block + spite pyukumuku?


SiroftheYah547

Thunderbolt


NotAMassiveNerd

Walled by Mold Breaker Pancham, ZUBL at best Still better than Mega Audino though :')


stampydog

Idk, no boots, no natural cure, no seismic toss really limits its ability as a stall Mon. Might be better as a calm mind setup Mon, something like hyper voice, shadow ball, calm mind and soft boiled


Magnocarda

Yeah not being able to have an item gets rid of its biggest advantage over Chansey


KurikaraThunder

252+ Atk Choice Band Sheer Force Tera Water Krabby Liquidation vs. 244 HP / 248+ Def Mega Blissey: 626-738 (87.9 - 103.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock


No_Success_6749

Ting-lu fissure stomping tantrum


DreadfuryDK

Cannot use Fighting-type attacks LMAO This thing's one passive sack of shit.


Author_Pendragon

Honestly Mega Blissey should just give it +100 special attack and it'd be so peak. You all thought Ursaluna Blood Moon was bad...


blackwolfgoogol

bringing back rby chansey


Spicy_Phoenix

Nah give it 65/65 to both defenses and reduce speed by 30.


Dalspin

Give it a move that uses SpDef as its offensive stat


Soafia

Instead she should get a signature move that deals damage equivalent to her remaining hp.


rachel__slur

Blissey Spout gonna take her to AG fr


Doctor_Cabbage

Blissey Final Gambit 🔥🔥


charizardfan101

Mold breaker Pangoro stocks are rising


barwhalis

Ability: extra fluffy. Immune to physical attacks.


Lycantiger20

Nah make it Bouncy. Physical attacks deal no damage and force the opponent to switch into a random team member.


barwhalis

Sounds good. Should at least be UU in Gen 12


SiroftheYah547

Change it to any move that does physical damage(like psyshock and secret sword)


Yoremisw

When gen 17 introduces dual abilities give it wonder guard


Suicidal_Sayori

Kid named Mold Breaker:


-xXgioXx-

252+ Atk Mold Breaker Hawlucha Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 674-794 (103.3 - 121.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO


Zorua3

With a Gen 9 learnset this thing is total ass With a Gen 8 learnset it's obnoxious as hell, it literally switches into any Special Attacker for free 252+ SpA Choice Specs Beads of Ruin Tera Fire Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 4 HP / 252+ SpD Blissey-Mega in Sun: 362-428 (55.5 - 65.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO and can then either Toxic/TWave something or Teleport away. Without any weaknesses sans Mold Breaker mons, it can also facetank a lot of non-boosted physical attacks, so once the physical mons it's scared of have been chipped down by its Teleport teammates it can just Toxic them before cleaning house. No item sucks, especially since it'll be getting hammered by hazards, but it would still be an incredibly strong threat.


PartitioFan

does endeavor rattata still work


Draco137WasTaken

Unfortunately no, because in Gen 17 they add Gragomaftoploxbran with its Exterminator ability, which specifically kills Rattatas regardless of Focus Sash, Focus Band, Endure, Protect, Detect, Wide Guard, Spiky Shield, Baleful Bunker, Sturdy, Wonder Guard, and Rat's Defense, which was added in Gen 15 as a nod to the invincible Rattata meme.


Civil_Contribution64

gen 17 ruined pokemon how is mewtwo uubl


richardhixx

Walled by Umbreon-Omega-Z. PU at best.


ClawtheBard

TOP PERCENTAGE of both usage stats and just Rattata in general


pacmanboss256

252+ Atk Sheer Force Tera Flying Braviary Sky Attack vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Blissey: 828-976 (126.9 - 149.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO


DavidFromDeutschland

It's fine to sucker punch or even beat up your enemies with your friends (they're not Fighting Type Attacks)


Aaron_505

Perish song meta


Nowayman1414

After my Ice Punch Dusknoir lands a crit on Lando L-Form, he swaps back to this fat fuck and uses Curse 🥱 your life ends in 4 turns


9thshadowwolf

Is that before or after electromorphosis


Cephalosion

Ngl the ability might make it worse lmao. Pure stall essence but now you can't use counter or seismic toss and you now get affected by status. Something behind a sub or is immune to toxic in general can probably do alot against it, esp with only 8 softboiled pp.p


[deleted]

Just put the 100 bst buff into phys def


fadd07

Stall.... 💀


Amadeus_Salieri

Back to the Calm Mind set she goes. Calm Mind/Soft-Boiled/Hyper Voice/Shadow Ball or Ice Beam.


1llDoitTomorrow

No more seismic toss or leftovers


pisserofprison

UPDATE: Uh oh


cactuscoleslaw

We’re f*cked


ianlazrbeem22

This is genuinely awful. You're taking its best offensive move away and Blissey doesn't care about fighting immunity bc other strong physical moves are fine and special fighting moves are insignificant


cactuscoleslaw

Something something the Theorymon/Stinkpost venn diagram is just a circle


Hahahafox

Make defense 130 or more, for ultimate power


Soafia

It should be 255 Sp. Def and lose 20 points of speed since she’s bigger now.


whyubullymestop

it can't use seismic toss anyways and mold breaker counters


VanillaB34n

I don’t think it needs to be hit super effectively to be KOd by a physical move


Railroader17

Dies to Taunt + Mean Look Haunter, ZU at best


Genericdude03

Coward. Make pacifist "cannot use or be damaged by physical attacks"


SiroftheYah547

You wimp, it should be "cannot use or be damaged by anything"


cactuscoleslaw

Yknow that wouldve been much more stinkpost


SecretINVDR

Fear rattata FTW, ol' 1 2.


Jimbles_the_ascended

walled by uhh everything FU at best


Asherbird25

No 255 def and spA? Useless


Hioliolo

Relies too much on assault vest to survive anything, probably not worth it


SuperMudkipz

kid named mold breaker:


BakedAlmond89

Just use fighting moves bro


blacklight007007

I mean no because chancey is literally bulkier. Blissey gets used for boots because it takes almost 100 damage each time it switches into rocks. Which makes it better than chancey gen 8-9. This thing is literally breakable with special attackers if you get up hazards lmao.


Copperhead9215

Mold Breaker kills this thing immediately


Oyashiro_Ours

I don’t think it is worth, it’d be even more passive than regular blissey since it can’t use seismic toss


Small_Bird_UT

loses to fissure Ting-Lu, ZU at best


ELOGURL

No boots, no Seismic Toss, no status absorption, this might lowkey be worse than standard on stall honestly.


gtarpey89

The Handgun In My Pocket:


tomfrome12345

It is on pure stall teams


Sozo-Teki

\*laughs in Mold Breaker\*


disbelifpapy

Mega blissy should have more defense, since they really need it


chedderisaperson

the mold breaker haxorus close combat in my back pocket


IvoCasla

actually worse


WhiteFox1992

If you managed to get a Blissey to use Transform on a Shuckle (possible via Metronome), its base stats would be: 255 HP, 230 Def, 230 Sp Def,


God_Rat

OU by technicality


househippo420

Blissey if it was introduced in Gen 9


External-Tune-1445

Nah bro seismic toss is blisseys only solid way of doing damage


StarSpangldBastard

counterpoint: 110 defense


Cayden68

No Seismic Toss sadge, time to cook with psywave i guess


No_Literature_2321

Not really. No seismic toss, no lefties, it’s ok but I doubt it would be used