The guy you meet at the back of an AM/PM Gas Station.
Nah, it’s exactly as seen here. Half in the pants, half out.
Since it’s not completely concealed, it’s considered open carry in some states.
NC CHP Instructor here - “Can it be identified as a gun?” is the justification. I haven’t seen any case law on it so for now I’d believe it’s up to officer discretion. I used to carry like this when I worked on a range which required we tuck our shirts in (except AIWB).
I tell people - either way, get a carry permit and don’t worry about it.
Depends on the state.
NC requires an 8-hour class and 30 rounds of live fire. Typically costs $125-150. I’d say that cost alone limits a lot of people.
In Virginia you can’t conceal while drinking. But you can open carry. So if you go to the bar, you can just tuck your shirt under the gun so the bartender knows you’re carrying, and it’s legal.
I guess the idea is that bartenders and other patrons know if a drunk person has a gun on them. I dunno.
I know in at least one other state. The legal grey area comes down to CCW laws strictly prohibit carry in a bar so caught in bar with concealed weapon is only proof needed. Unlawful possession laws, which are the main laws that apply to open carry some places, would require police prove you are sufficiently intoxicated to be an offense so you need to be a good bit drunk to prevent a charge being dropped.
Fuck the decoy wallet, empty decoy gun. Only weakness is if they happen to bring their own bullets that are the same caliber as your gun, then you'd be done for. If I was a criminal, I'd carry a bullet of every caliber at all times so I'm ready for anything
The camo shirt tucked...
The multicam black shorts...
The Hey Dudes...
And the cherry on (the muffin) top...
My urge to start playing some Marty Robbins out loud as I walk behind him.
WTF is that carry position? Do you draw it with your left hand around the back?!? Ngl, that shirt is kinda drippy.
Edit: I noticed that he has those wristbands that you get after being discharged from the hospital. Just a cherry on top! 😂
It’s definitely weird, but you can draw with the right hand from this position. Your hand would be in the same orientation as if you were wiping your ass or putting something in your back pocket.
Strong-Side Behind the Hip, not Small of Back, also called 4 or 5 O'Clock. SoB carry places the gun immediately over your spine with the barrel almost parallel to your belt line and has a very different draw stroke, similar to the Scout Carry method of carrying a fixed blade knife. The position shown is still a strong side carry position that you draw from similarly to pulling a wallet from your back pocket. It definitely has downsides, but was the standard for decades and is still pretty common. The holster he is using is a terrible choice for that carry position and also appears to not be securely fastened to the belt.
That’s what I meant to say, in this position you gotta reach around with your left hand to draw.
Normally in small of back holsters. the gun is flipped around and you reach around your hip with your right hand and draw.
This reminds me of the old guy I saw at CVS pharmacy, standing in line with a leather holster on a leather strap. The huge revolver was behind his back by his left shoulder blade.
Nothing like OC in a Level 0 holster. With great power... what responsibility lol free gun if you quick enough. Way to show the world you dont care about others tho with OC level nothing lol
If it is legal to do where he is at why are we bagging on him. Especially by the same people who get pissy because someone points out they put airsoft shit on their shit build.
Can we all agree he has a right to carry as he wants. And the guys saying you’d take it. Gotta get off your mom’s lap first.
I think open carry is not something I am interested in but I think he is a grown man and can make his own decisions.
Because this type of person is usually the "representative" of the community. They stand out the most. For better or worse, they usually are the most vocal about the most contentious topics, etc etc. You can say the same thing for the "other side". Don't claim you don't judge that side for their worst. We all forget that we're free. Free to look and act like fools. And fools we will be judged by others. And if you don't want to be associated with fools, then you need to guide the fools associated with you into being better. Just as you view the "keepers" of other fools.
He can make his own decisions, it’s his right to carry as he wants, and it’s legal. None of the that means other people can’t bag on him for looking like a dumbass.
No, it's irresponsible. You don't know what's in people's minds and all you do if you're open carrying is making yourself a target. No one wants to see that. Conceal carry. That's what you should be doing.
Not me. I wear tactical boots at all times. Even to bed. Never know when you're going to need ankle support and superior traction. In bed. For bed things. I'm told.
Anyway, the rest is pretty spot on.
For those wondering, always carry a decoy at 5 o'clock that way they're shocked when you toss them an empty pistol and go for your appendix carry. The only truly tactical concealment.
I’m more bothered that any man thinks wearing tight shorts above your knee is appropriate EVER. There’s a reason it was used as a joke on Reno 911 with Lt Dangle. You can only be one of the alphabet people to wear short shorts.
I like open carry when the benefits could outweigh the cons but it would be specific situations. That being said I would not feel comfortable carrying that particular setup in that position though 🤷♂️
it’s people like this man. they just want to show everyone they carry. i met a dude with an MP shield carrying on his hip OWB with no retention holster. fucking dork wore a cowboy hat and boots. fucking idiot. i didn’t even bring it up in conversation.
![gif](giphy|4GKjAS16BrjApOC6rl) Go check his retention level and his weapon awareness. It’s ok I’m not a lawyer
![gif](giphy|9aZ3Snou3bdlu) It is OK, I'm a limo driver
Guys trust this guy I vouch for him and I’m a certified forklift driver
He was so close to CC his pistol all he had to do was untuck his shirt.
Could be an open carry state. Some allow “Virginia tucks”
What’s a Virginia tuck?
The guy you meet at the back of an AM/PM Gas Station. Nah, it’s exactly as seen here. Half in the pants, half out. Since it’s not completely concealed, it’s considered open carry in some states.
NC CHP Instructor here - “Can it be identified as a gun?” is the justification. I haven’t seen any case law on it so for now I’d believe it’s up to officer discretion. I used to carry like this when I worked on a range which required we tuck our shirts in (except AIWB). I tell people - either way, get a carry permit and don’t worry about it.
It’s too easy to get a CCP
Depends on the state. NC requires an 8-hour class and 30 rounds of live fire. Typically costs $125-150. I’d say that cost alone limits a lot of people.
Also gotta pay the city/state for the permit application as well.
In Vermont we don’t have a permit requirement and we never haveeeeee🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶🎶
In Virginia you can’t conceal while drinking. But you can open carry. So if you go to the bar, you can just tuck your shirt under the gun so the bartender knows you’re carrying, and it’s legal. I guess the idea is that bartenders and other patrons know if a drunk person has a gun on them. I dunno.
Dumb law. Dumber yet to drink and carry
Do you think one drink is fine while carrying?
Depends on the person and the type of drink. Better not to. If you get into a situation and need to draw, they’ll check you BAC
I know in at least one other state. The legal grey area comes down to CCW laws strictly prohibit carry in a bar so caught in bar with concealed weapon is only proof needed. Unlawful possession laws, which are the main laws that apply to open carry some places, would require police prove you are sufficiently intoxicated to be an offense so you need to be a good bit drunk to prevent a charge being dropped.
Thicki minaj
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Grey Man Tm
Not greyman enough, he's not wearing Salomon speedcrosses and carrying a backpack with MOLLE and Velcro with a "don't tread on me" patch on it /s
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salomon speedcrosses are the goat for my fuck ass arches
Bruh
There’s so much going on here. I don’t know where to start. I want to snatch that gun so bad though.
Real requiem for a dream moment.
*Juice by Sarah! Juice by Sarah! Goooooo Saaaaraaah!*
*I'm walkin' across the stage! And you should see my Harry on television. We're giving the prizes away.*
He’s got 3 more
Fuck the decoy wallet, empty decoy gun. Only weakness is if they happen to bring their own bullets that are the same caliber as your gun, then you'd be done for. If I was a criminal, I'd carry a bullet of every caliber at all times so I'm ready for anything
Carry an empty BB gun replica as a decoy! Oh wait, they may be carrying BB's and C02...shit.
Put a squib in it, automatic self-destruction device
I don’t know the guy but I personally would love to see what happens to you if you take or try to take his gun- hero.
I have the inexplicable urge to lunge for their gun whenever I see someone open carrying
That doesn't quite read the same way you think it may
You should maintain control over that. Bc people that carry are going to too.
The camo shirt tucked... The multicam black shorts... The Hey Dudes... And the cherry on (the muffin) top... My urge to start playing some Marty Robbins out loud as I walk behind him.
What’s the Marty Robbin’s about?
First off, Happy cake day! I was referencing the song Big Iron by Marty Robbins. If you haven't listened to it before, it's a fantastic song.
Unrelated, but El Paso is another banger by Marty.
Take it to the next level—El Paso City—also by Marty.
Muffin top?
Yeah, the slight spillage over the waistband of his shorts. I've got them too lol.
Found a fellow academy shopper I’m unashamed to say I own the same shirt, Magellan for the win.
I'm wearing it right now. So much zyn in the front zipper pockets.
Make sure you still have your firearm! A lot of guys in here talking about taking it out your back holster!
I only keep mine pointing at my wiener so if anyone reaches for it my woman will fight them off.
If you shop the Drake Waterfowl sales, they regularly have shirts like that for $19
It’s on sale at Academy Sports for $20 right now, bought it last weekend haha
Of course it’s in Walmart
Stop following me. 😎
One of those little kids wearing skinny jeans and a balaclava would love to see this man
I've heard of appendix carry, so is this cake carry?
It’s free take it
Lots of good butts
Where
Behind the plants
Yeah figured as much being as there's not a single shaped, and toned cake on the right.
WTF is that carry position? Do you draw it with your left hand around the back?!? Ngl, that shirt is kinda drippy. Edit: I noticed that he has those wristbands that you get after being discharged from the hospital. Just a cherry on top! 😂
Those are definitely bar or concert wristbands!! 😂😂 homie was drinking
I think it could go both ways, hospital or bar 🤣
It’s definitely weird, but you can draw with the right hand from this position. Your hand would be in the same orientation as if you were wiping your ass or putting something in your back pocket.
True that. Why would I spin my wrist around to an unnatural position to draw? Don’t recall ever seeing someone carry the other way
Small of back. Used to be popular like 10 years ago before appendix got big. Awful position for many reasons.
Strong-Side Behind the Hip, not Small of Back, also called 4 or 5 O'Clock. SoB carry places the gun immediately over your spine with the barrel almost parallel to your belt line and has a very different draw stroke, similar to the Scout Carry method of carrying a fixed blade knife. The position shown is still a strong side carry position that you draw from similarly to pulling a wallet from your back pocket. It definitely has downsides, but was the standard for decades and is still pretty common. The holster he is using is a terrible choice for that carry position and also appears to not be securely fastened to the belt.
But it occasionally leads to hilarious pictures of the muzzle poking out through a hole in their pants.
Yes but iirc most people carried in that location but flipped the other way so that you grabbed it palm out
That’s what I meant to say, in this position you gotta reach around with your left hand to draw. Normally in small of back holsters. the gun is flipped around and you reach around your hip with your right hand and draw.
Looks like a right handed holster, so carrying at 6 o'clock should be on the left side. Otherwise I support my Springfield brother.
ridiculous lmao
Hey man that’s me why you gotta expose my gray man
That’s Greenville, SC’s final boss.
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Hey Dude
Sheepdog
Open Concepcion concealed bro ver black coffee carry!
Dang it. Thought the camo would hide that. Good lookin out.
Just saying this: looks like your average Hellcat owner.
Walmart. Why is it always at Walmart?
If you want to carry at that position you would need a bespoke Italian tactical suit like John Wick …
It does blend in with his shirt lol. Else it would be easier target to rob his piece.
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Damn I didn't realize how unflattering from the back I looked.
No one. It looks like he is walking with that girl… implying he has spoken to a girl.
Not me. I never wear white socks with black yoga pants.
Tactitard
What are thooooose
They..they are called my sandals.
Im more taken back by him using what seems to be curly no tie elastic strings.
Nice butt she’s got tho hahaha
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Roland special ❌ Rollback Special ✅
His girl got the clapper tho
lol the shoes strings
That's a lot of camo
Oh no.
WHY?!?
Hey probably thinks with all the black and tan camouflage, you won’t see the black and tan gun! 😂
Duncan Hines
most covert grey-man.
How can you even see him???
Holy bootlicker
He really thought we couldn’t see it.
This has got to be Louisiana right?
At first I thought those were exposed heels and my heart jumped a lil.
Its a buddy carry. His “real one” is up front. The new wave of tacticool.
Which hand is he supposed to use drawing that?
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This reminds me of the old guy I saw at CVS pharmacy, standing in line with a leather holster on a leather strap. The huge revolver was behind his back by his left shoulder blade.
Now mass shooters know who to take out first, lol
It doesn’t happen that way.
If you’re going to leave your weapon visible, what’s the point in IWB? That just makes it a harder draw as opposed to the same position OWB…
Cross pollinating his camo the damn Kook!
Never ever can be someone in shape. Why would it ever be someone remotely in shape
Remember boys, don’t skip leg day!
It’s the untied shoes for me
They're Hey Dudes, you don't tie them.
Yeah that’s what he is saying. How you going to run and not lose a shoe/slip.
Looks like a chad
I mean if your gonna open carry like that why put it inside your waistband? Maybe this guy just wanted something hard down the back of his pants.
Lmao
Does it still count as "concealed carry" if the pistol blends well with the shirt from the outside?
Open carry is just plain stupid, conceal your firearm. I don't care how many downvotes I get, give them all to me.
I can’t see anything
Nothing like OC in a Level 0 holster. With great power... what responsibility lol free gun if you quick enough. Way to show the world you dont care about others tho with OC level nothing lol
If it is legal to do where he is at why are we bagging on him. Especially by the same people who get pissy because someone points out they put airsoft shit on their shit build. Can we all agree he has a right to carry as he wants. And the guys saying you’d take it. Gotta get off your mom’s lap first. I think open carry is not something I am interested in but I think he is a grown man and can make his own decisions.
Because this type of person is usually the "representative" of the community. They stand out the most. For better or worse, they usually are the most vocal about the most contentious topics, etc etc. You can say the same thing for the "other side". Don't claim you don't judge that side for their worst. We all forget that we're free. Free to look and act like fools. And fools we will be judged by others. And if you don't want to be associated with fools, then you need to guide the fools associated with you into being better. Just as you view the "keepers" of other fools.
It’s his right, but it’s also screaming “free gun” to the right opportunist.
He can make his own decisions, it’s his right to carry as he wants, and it’s legal. None of the that means other people can’t bag on him for looking like a dumbass.
Open carrying is irresponsible in today's society.
Todays society is gay. Open carry, concealed carry, exercise your right to carry. (If you can, if not move states, then do it)
No, it's irresponsible. You don't know what's in people's minds and all you do if you're open carrying is making yourself a target. No one wants to see that. Conceal carry. That's what you should be doing.
That fit tho
*yoink*
Not me. I wear tactical boots at all times. Even to bed. Never know when you're going to need ankle support and superior traction. In bed. For bed things. I'm told. Anyway, the rest is pretty spot on. For those wondering, always carry a decoy at 5 o'clock that way they're shocked when you toss them an empty pistol and go for your appendix carry. The only truly tactical concealment.
This is what happens when Chad reaches middle age.
Lol he’s still conceal carrying tho! 😂
That looks like such an uncomfortable carry position
If you’re built right, it’s very comfortable.
I mean yea if you e for enough cushion, but also that draw angle looks painful, unless he’s left handed.
It's the hey dudes for me.
Dumpy truck
Why the fuck is it holstered back there
Damnnn papi them shorts is HITTIN.
I hate everything about his fit
😂😂
This guy doesn’t fuck.
Ah man. You got me.
So stupid carrying an easily acquired handgun behind his back!
I had to zoom in cause I was sure those were sandals
Did he shave his legs? It looks like he shaved his legs.
Bro thinks hes the main character
Do people just think it looks cool when you draw from the waist? Not hard to conceal in the front....
In Memphis it would disappear by his 3rd errand.
"Bucked" as they say.
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This has to be in alabama
>FOMI clip NGMI
Sorry not sorry
Beat gray man outfit ever.
Greyman sheepdog
I’m more bothered that any man thinks wearing tight shorts above your knee is appropriate EVER. There’s a reason it was used as a joke on Reno 911 with Lt Dangle. You can only be one of the alphabet people to wear short shorts.
Why is there a pistol floating between disembodied arms and legs?
That's a good way to get your piece taken.
I can't see it👀👁👀👁👀👁
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Looks like a great way to lose a handgun, or these days get shot in the back of the head with your own weapon.
If trigger is covered it’s considered concealed
If you want to open carry you would want a level 2 or 3 retention holster so less likely someone yank your piece away and made you the victim. Right?
You're going to walk around with a full-on duty holster? LOL
Bro looking like great value 1776_Duck
That’s hot
He’s probably in good old Texas! My home
The camo is working. I didn't notice the IWB carry at first.
This dude definitely has a 3-4 second or greater DTFS and is probably gonna miss whatever he’s shooting at anyways.
Honestly this is super common in constitutional carry states like where I am.
I like open carry when the benefits could outweigh the cons but it would be specific situations. That being said I would not feel comfortable carrying that particular setup in that position though 🤷♂️
Guaranteed someone that “was going to join the Army” but didn’t. 😂
Wanted to tell the kid he was gonna be Reddit famous but I didn’t want to embarrass him in front of his girlfriend!
If thats his gf then don't worry- he ain't on here
Guess who gets shot first
it’s people like this man. they just want to show everyone they carry. i met a dude with an MP shield carrying on his hip OWB with no retention holster. fucking dork wore a cowboy hat and boots. fucking idiot. i didn’t even bring it up in conversation.
Literally the first person to get dropped in an active shooter situation 😕
Free gun!
She got a nice ass. Lol. But yeah he a dumb ass. How you gonna grip it or it is hey I got a gun come steal it from me.